[Standard] The Matrix Reloaded - Game Over

[Zander?]

  On 11/6/2015 at 4:28 PM, ReleaseTheEvil said:

 

  On 11/6/2015 at 4:26 PM, cory caboose said:

My only other advice would be in future games stop clearing Yates for being likeable. Look at the posts Sili quoted and ask why he's a villager for posting any of it. He's a good wolf and good at getting people on his side.

 

Think it's wrong to clear Yates at almost any point. Can ALWAYS be deep wolfing it. But feel like there are "bigger fish" to fry so to speak. If Yates is wolf, we won't figure that out today with what we have to work with.

 

FWIW bit of a shame that we are still lynching for info on Day 3 but it happens I guess?

 

 

 

  On 11/6/2015 at 4:29 PM, cory caboose said:

Lynching for info?

 

this ^^^^

 

 

  On 11/6/2015 at 4:30 PM, ReleaseTheEvil said:

Fair enough re: BFG but she did sub out due to being able to be active enough. So that should be worth something? 

 

Nice research on your part though. Impressed. 

 

 

are you really impressed???

[Cory Caboose]

Last game me and RTE played in together was Blackhoof.

 

http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/89954-advanced-blackhoofs-cthulhu-mythos-mafia-game-day-1/

 

June 2014.

[Cory Caboose]

Technically we were both in Death of Meta, but I subbed in about a week after he died in that game.

[Shad_]

  On 11/6/2015 at 5:52 PM, Yates said:

I'm basically just reading pages 10, 11 and 12 of his ISO [in ascending order]:

 

Clov isn't sure he believes Lenlo's claim.

 

Clov "rethinks" his Town read on Thane here.

 

Clov determines Cory is very likely to be Town.

 

Clov says Tab is not playing the way she did in Harry Potter as Town.

 

Clov has no interest in lynching BFG [now RTE] @Cory.

 

Clov hedges on his Dice read.

 

Clov accuses Sili of TMI wrt Sooh flip.

 

Clov "accepts" Sili's reads of Zand, Shad, Yates as Town. [technically I don't know if this constitutes agreement or just that he accepts these would be reads coming from Sili's pov]

 

I hadn't noticed this but Clov doubles down on his Sili scum read here.

 

Clov advocates not tinfoiling on Thane.

 

Clov thinks Tab flipping mafia 100% clears Thane.

 

Clov backs up Shad/Sili wrt Hally's hammer saying Sooh's lynch was not a foregone conclusion.

 

Clov promises Shad he'll look into a Lenlo scum flip spewing Sili Town.

 

 

If I go ONE page further back I see this:

  On 11/3/2015 at 4:00 PM, Clovdyx said:

 

  On 11/3/2015 at 2:20 PM, Hallia said:

On mobile. Correh you asked who I thought the wolves with you might be, I would say Dice, Sooh, Tab.

Cory aside, I really don't hate this list.

 

If I'm going to sponge 100% of Clov's reads, I believe they look something like this:

 

Town:

Corlanna

Yates

Zander

Shad

 

Meh:

Thane?

Hally

Lenlo

 

Wolf:

Sili

Tab

Dice

 

 

I'm torn between liking this and remembering that scum!Yates likes to tell us what dead players were thinking.

 

Meh

[Zander?]

  On 11/6/2015 at 4:31 PM, Lenlo said:

 

  On 11/6/2015 at 4:27 PM, Zander said:

 

  On 11/6/2015 at 4:41 AM, Lenlo said:

I still believe that what he has posted hasnt been actual casing. He is using his "gut" as an excuse to hound players and get them lynched cause thats what you people call town Zander. He posts alot and shouts alot and gifs alot to drown out how little actual casing/arguing he has done this game. By tunneling on me since D1, he hasnt had to place a single vote anywhere else or worry about having to push a lynch on anyone else. He is going to be able to coast to D4 without having to do alot of "work" work.

 

 

OK LISTEN MAN STRAIGHT UP FREAKING SHOW ME WHERE YOU DID MORE CASING THIS GAME THEN I DID!!!

 

 

IVE DONE MORE WORK THIS GAME THEN YOU HAVE!!

 

 

SHOW EVERYONE HOW THIS IS EVEN REMOTELY TRUE!!!

 

You always get so worked up over these kinds of posts, which makes me think I might have struck a nerve.

 

Youve done more posting and face work thats for sure.

 

 

 

really Len....this is your response??

 

get rekt

[Yates]

  On 11/6/2015 at 7:48 PM, Zander said:

get rekt

He can't get more rekt than dead. He's dead. You win. lol.

 

I'm 50/50 on how I will feel regardless of his flip.

[Zander?]

  On 11/6/2015 at 4:33 PM, ReleaseTheEvil said:

 

  On 11/6/2015 at 4:31 PM, Lenlo said:

 

  On 11/6/2015 at 4:27 PM, Zander said:

 

  On 11/6/2015 at 4:41 AM, Lenlo said:

I still believe that what he has posted hasnt been actual casing. He is using his "gut" as an excuse to hound players and get them lynched cause thats what you people call town Zander. He posts alot and shouts alot and gifs alot to drown out how little actual casing/arguing he has done this game. By tunneling on me since D1, he hasnt had to place a single vote anywhere else or worry about having to push a lynch on anyone else. He is going to be able to coast to D4 without having to do alot of "work" work.

 

 

OK LISTEN MAN STRAIGHT UP FREAKING SHOW ME WHERE YOU DID MORE CASING THIS GAME THEN I DID!!!

 

 

IVE DONE MORE WORK THIS GAME THEN YOU HAVE!!

 

 

SHOW EVERYONE HOW THIS IS EVEN REMOTELY TRUE!!!

 

You always get so worked up over these kinds of posts, which makes me think I might have struck a nerve.

 

Youve done more posting and face work thats for sure.

 

 

Eh, that was a weak reply. Come on Lenlo 

 

 

 

  On 11/6/2015 at 4:35 PM, Lenlo said:

What kind of reply would you have wanted RTE? Cause im not going through a 190 page game for something like that.

 

 

why not... you made an accusation

 

I dispute it because obv not true

 

you dont wanna "try" to provide proof (because its a lie).....not pro town play at all!!!

[Shad_]

  On 11/6/2015 at 6:15 PM, ReleaseTheEvil said:

 

  On 11/6/2015 at 6:12 PM, Shad_ said:

 

  On 11/6/2015 at 4:13 PM, ReleaseTheEvil said:

 

  On 11/6/2015 at 4:11 PM, cory caboose said:

 

  On 11/6/2015 at 4:07 PM, Sili Quirrels said:

This is not true. IT is very easy to lynch lenlo.

 

He was a wagon on d1. He was L-1 d2. He was L-1 d3. He's probably going to escape YET again, because the wolves have a golden opportunity here to rid me from this game and enough villages fear my "great wolf game" to probably buy in.

 

 

See, this is more interesting. Given that no scum have died, what I want to know then is how were the hammers on each of those days? I know Day 2. I know Day 3. What happened on Day 1? Would scum so obviously be saving him each time? Cause then we should know at least 3 members: Lenlo, Hallia, and the person who saved him Day 1

 

 

 

  On 10/30/2015 at 10:17 PM, Nolder said:

Final Votecount

 

Rack - Yates, Lenlo, Taborline, Thane, Hallia, Clov, Pral, Sili, Dice, (Sooh) (9)

Lenlo - Zander, Nomi, Corlanna, Shad (4)

Pral - Sooh (1)

 

With 16 alive it takes 9 to lynch.

Deadline: Friday 30th 3PM PST.

Treating Zander as peeked town because scum won this game a long time ago if he's wolf.

 

Sili and your slot were the "saving" votes here if there were any.  Sili showed a lot of hesitance regarding Rack pre-train but seemed to settle on him as Lenlo's started to pick up steam.  Your slot said you would vote Lenlo but didn't actually do it and let Rack's mislynch roll through.  I think your slot comes out looking the worst D1 wagon-wise if Lenlo is scum.

 

Dice's hammer came at a point when it was too late to lynch Lenlo, and Sooh had made her intent to hammer Rack extremely clear.  I think that if Lenlo is in fact scum it makes very little sense for Dice to hop on a town hammer when he could have been on the "right" side of history instead with zero consequences.

 

 

So Len flipping scum would clear Dice? 

 

 

I think it would be another notch on his growing ribbon of town points.

[Cory Caboose]

[Zander?]

  On 11/6/2015 at 4:36 PM, Shad_ said:

Still not caught up but I think we locked in a second wolf by not speed-lynching Lenlo.

 

who is that?  dod i miss something

[Lenlo]

  On 11/6/2015 at 7:57 PM, cory caboose said:

<3

[Shad_]

  On 11/6/2015 at 6:21 PM, cory caboose said:

 

  On 11/6/2015 at 5:56 PM, Yates said:

Len, Sili, RTE... Dice/Tab?

 

I have a hard time believing Sili goes at me like that with pretty much no pressure on him and being a consensus townread

 

There's always a substantial chance it backfires with a doofus like me on the other end

 

 

I approve of this post.

[Sili Quirrels]

Am i a scumread shad yates?

 

If so i think youre headless chickens and ill selfvote to help us lose.

[Zander?]

  On 11/6/2015 at 4:38 PM, ReleaseTheEvil said:

 

  On 11/6/2015 at 4:35 PM, Lenlo said:

What kind of reply would you have wanted RTE? Cause im not going through a 190 page game for something like that.

 

A reply where you consider Zander's meta before jumping to "Oh there you go over-reacting again"

 

He isn't, just cause he posted in caps doesn't mean his post deserved a valid reply...

 

 

Thank you

[Sili Quirrels]

No regrets lol.

[Shad_]

  On 11/6/2015 at 8:02 PM, Sili Quirrels said:

Am i a scumread shad yates?

 

If so i think youre headless chickens and ill selfvote to help us lose.

 

I think you probably made some really really pro-town plays today that may have outed most of/all of the scum team, but I can never fully understand what goes on in your head so I might be way out of sync with reality.

[Sili Quirrels]

I really don't understand. I just saw multiple ppl act as if I'm a natural scumread atp, which is absurd. Anyone with a head on their shoulders knows me reading the thread and making new reads is me being a villager.

 

Has anyone even bothered to ask me to elaborate? Because you know... being on a phone I kind of couldn't at the time. -.-

[Zander?]

  On 11/6/2015 at 4:39 PM, Lenlo said:

Z, im not going to get into another spat with you. Today is to important to waste with you.

 

RTE, I dont know Zanders meta. Not from personal experience atleast. I have never played with him before.

 

 

Too important to waste on someone youre scum reading and someone youre raising disputed points against.....lololololololol

[Cory Caboose]

I'd give you a hand, Sili

 

But

 

nah

[Sili Quirrels]

It doesn't matter to me as much as it would a few months ago. But it's annoying to get pressure after I put in effort. You cory have been playing really badly and you deserve the pressure, no regrets.

 

I do not. At least not for making controversial reads.

[Shad_]

  On 11/6/2015 at 8:06 PM, Sili Quirrels said:

I really don't understand. I just saw multiple ppl act as if I'm a natural scumread atp, which is absurd. Anyone with a head on their shoulders knows me reading the thread and making new reads is me being a villager.

 

Has anyone even bothered to ask me to elaborate? Because you know... being on a phone I kind of couldn't at the time. -.-

 

You always fascinate me.

[Zander?]

  On 11/6/2015 at 5:02 PM, cory caboose said:

Hallia hammered Sooh yesterday after mostly defending Lenlo even pre-doctor claim.

 

Clov flips bodyguard and Hallia immediately votes Lenlo and pretty much stops talking saying "Clov flipping bodyguard means Lenlo isn't doctor"

 

Could see that as wolf concerned about the Clov flip locking Lenlo out mechanically, if that makes sense

 

 

i dont hate this post at all

[Cory Caboose]

  On 11/6/2015 at 8:09 PM, Sili Quirrels said:

It doesn't matter to me as much as it would a few months ago. But it's annoying. You cory have been playing really badly and you deserve the pressure, no regrets.

 

I do not.

Don't throw stones.

[Sili Quirrels]

  On 11/6/2015 at 8:11 PM, cory caboose said:

 

  On 11/6/2015 at 8:09 PM, Sili Quirrels said:

It doesn't matter to me as much as it would a few months ago. But it's annoying. You cory have been playing really badly and you deserve the pressure, no regrets.

I do not.

 

Don't throw stones.

Stones were thrown. It's too late for me cory, but as longa s you don't follow in my footsteps we've gained something.

[Sili Quirrels]

haha.

 

but anyway, anyone giving me pressure only after i start trying deserves a knock on the head and a shout in the ear. If they think I am scum now they should have been on my ass when I was afk.