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Sili Quirrels Master

Sili Quirrels

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  On 11/6/2015 at 4:11 PM, cory caboose said:

 

  On 11/6/2015 at 4:07 PM, Sili Quirrels said:

This is not true. IT is very easy to lynch lenlo.

 

He was a wagon on d1. He was L-1 d2. He was L-1 d3. He's probably going to escape YET again, because the wolves have a golden opportunity here to rid me from this game and enough villages fear my "great wolf game" to probably buy in.

 

And rightly so, but lenlo is still the lynch most of the time.

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Cory Caboose Spam Master

Cory Caboose

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  On 11/6/2015 at 4:13 PM, ReleaseTheEvil said:

See, this is more interesting. Given that no scum have died, what I want to know then is how were the hammers on each of those days? I know Day 2. I know Day 3. What happened on Day 1? Would scum so obviously be saving him each time? Cause then we should know at least 3 members: Lenlo, Hallia, and the person who saved him Day 1

 

On day one the Lenlo wagon was very late as Rack claimed Vengeful Townie with like an hour to go. Which caused a rush and a CFD attempt on Lenlo led mostly by Zander and Nomi.

 

Dice hammered with like ten minutes left in the phase to prevent a no lynch IIRC.

Yates Master

Yates

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  On 11/6/2015 at 3:06 PM, cory caboose said:

Probably wolves: Lenlo, Yates, RTE

 

Remainder is probably in Tab/Hallia/Thane.

Okay.

 

Any combination of Yates/BFG/Remainder kills Cory or Clov Day 1 every time. Scum Yates is not afraid of Nomi and would be convinced to kill Cory because Cory and Clov both read Hally and BFG well. And with all due respect I think Tab, Thane, and Lenlo all look to someone else to lead their team and need to kill off threats to Scum leader.

 

[v]Corlanna[/v]

 

If I lose to any combination of Lenlo, Tab, Thane, Hally, Zander without a scum Cory? I tip my hat and say good game, you got me.

ReleaseTheEvil Spam Master

ReleaseTheEvil

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  On 11/6/2015 at 4:14 PM, cory caboose said:

 

  On 11/6/2015 at 4:12 PM, ReleaseTheEvil said:

 

  On 11/6/2015 at 4:10 PM, cory caboose said:

 

  On 11/6/2015 at 4:08 PM, ReleaseTheEvil said:

Cory going "Oops, sorry I was wrong" like he has so often in the past, as town or wolf for that matter. 

 

Why are you so needly, you literally just subbed in.

 

 

Because I don't think your playstyle is helpful to your teammates if you're town. It may work for you. It may be very good for pressuring scum. It may win you more games than not. But it really doesn't do other townies a favour if you are town. Unless we just let you carry the game for us as you suggest we do (or we fail you, depending on the game in question)

 

 

What do you know about how I've played this game?

 

This is based only on since I've been in and my past games with you. Maybe you were different before today?

Cory Caboose Spam Master

Cory Caboose

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  On 11/6/2015 at 4:14 PM, Sili Quirrels said:

And rightly so, but lenlo is still the lynch most of the time.

 

Think you got the ball rolling and I'm going down. Congrats.

ReleaseTheEvil Spam Master

ReleaseTheEvil

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Can we realistically think scum is sticking their neck out to save Lenlo each time?

 

Can we do a train analysis of when Lenlo was at L-1? No way that train is clean IMO

Cory Caboose Spam Master

Cory Caboose

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  On 11/6/2015 at 4:17 PM, Yates said:

 

  On 11/6/2015 at 3:06 PM, cory caboose said:

Probably wolves: Lenlo, Yates, RTE

 

Remainder is probably in Tab/Hallia/Thane.

Okay.

 

Any combination of Yates/BFG/Remainder kills Cory or Clov Day 1 every time. Scum Yates is not afraid of Nomi and would be convinced to kill Cory because Cory and Clov both read Hally and BFG well. And with all due respect I think Tab, Thane, and Lenlo all look to someone else to lead their team and need to kill off threats to Scum leader.

 

[v]Corlanna[/v]

 

If I lose to any combination of Lenlo, Tab, Thane, Hally, Zander without a scum Cory? I tip my hat and say good game, you got me.

 

 

Your argument against me literally infers you are a wolf.

 

  On 11/6/2015 at 3:17 PM, cory caboose said:

Someone who doesn't shoot in the me/Clov crowd on n1 for fear of one of us getting doctor'd or something like that.

 

They either shot Clov or Shad on n2, probably a testament to Lenlo not being the doctor and scum no longer being afraid of a doctor since Lenlo was never CC'd.

 

Still worth noting.

Zander? Spam Master

Zander?

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  On 11/6/2015 at 4:39 AM, Sili Quirrels said:

Lenlo, my problem right now is I don't believe what you're saying. There's no depth to what you write, so there's nothing to show you believe what you type.

 

Like for zander for instance, do you think he is mafia just because he has tunneled you? because it's been 2 weeks and that's sort of irresponsible.

 

 

me neither and ill be looking for his response to this

Cory Caboose Spam Master

Cory Caboose

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Yates/Lenlo/RTE/Thane.

 

Reassess only if it's necessary, but if you are going to lynch me you are at least going to look over my reads when you are done and wipe my blood off your hands.

ReleaseTheEvil Spam Master

ReleaseTheEvil

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  On 11/6/2015 at 4:22 PM, cory caboose said:

Yates/Lenlo/RTE/Thane.

 

Reassess only if it's necessary, but if you are going to lynch me you are at least going to look over my reads when you are done and wipe my blood off your hands.

 

Why Thane?

 

Why me/BFG? Just because you think BFG would more likely swap out as Mafia? (She's finished games as Mafia before, Ithi swapping out cost me a game though recently :sad: )

Cory Caboose Spam Master

Cory Caboose

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My only other advice would be in future games stop clearing Yates for being likeable. Look at the posts Sili quoted and ask why he's a villager for posting any of it. He's a good wolf and good at getting people on his side.

Zander? Spam Master

Zander?

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  On 11/6/2015 at 4:41 AM, Lenlo said:

I still believe that what he has posted hasnt been actual casing. He is using his "gut" as an excuse to hound players and get them lynched cause thats what you people call town Zander. He posts alot and shouts alot and gifs alot to drown out how little actual casing/arguing he has done this game. By tunneling on me since D1, he hasnt had to place a single vote anywhere else or worry about having to push a lynch on anyone else. He is going to be able to coast to D4 without having to do alot of "work" work.

 

 

OK LISTEN MAN STRAIGHT UP FREAKING SHOW ME WHERE YOU DID MORE CASING THIS GAME THEN I DID!!!

 

 

IVE DONE MORE WORK THIS GAME THEN YOU HAVE!!

 

 

SHOW EVERYONE HOW THIS IS EVEN REMOTELY TRUE!!!

Cory Caboose Spam Master

Cory Caboose

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  On 11/6/2015 at 4:25 PM, ReleaseTheEvil said:

 

  On 11/6/2015 at 4:22 PM, cory caboose said:

Yates/Lenlo/RTE/Thane.

 

Reassess only if it's necessary, but if you are going to lynch me you are at least going to look over my reads when you are done and wipe my blood off your hands.

 

Why Thane?

 

Why me/BFG? Just because you think BFG would more likely swap out as Mafia? (She's finished games as Mafia before, Ithi swapping out cost me a game though recently :sad: )

 

 

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  On 11/4/2015 at 3:38 PM, cory caboose said:

NOW THIS GAME:

 

  On 11/4/2015 at 3:16 PM, cory caboose said:

BFG VOLUME ANALYSIS pt. 1

 

Ragnarok Mafia game thread:

 

 

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ReleaseTheEvil Spam Master

ReleaseTheEvil

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  On 11/6/2015 at 4:26 PM, cory caboose said:

My only other advice would be in future games stop clearing Yates for being likeable. Look at the posts Sili quoted and ask why he's a villager for posting any of it. He's a good wolf and good at getting people on his side.

 

Think it's wrong to clear Yates at almost any point. Can ALWAYS be deep wolfing it. But feel like there are "bigger fish" to fry so to speak. If Yates is wolf, we won't figure that out today with what we have to work with.

 

FWIW bit of a shame that we are still lynching for info on Day 3 but it happens I guess?

ReleaseTheEvil Spam Master

ReleaseTheEvil

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Fair enough re: BFG but she did sub out due to being able to be active enough. So that should be worth something? 

 

Nice research on your part though. Impressed. 

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Taborline

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  On 11/6/2015 at 4:06 PM, Shad_ said:

 

  On 11/6/2015 at 2:39 PM, Taborline said:

 

  On 11/6/2015 at 2:36 PM, cory caboose said:

 

  On 11/6/2015 at 8:41 AM, Sili Quirrels said:

Her hammer is too obviously wolfy to be agenda driven. Dont fall into that trap...

Entirely dependent on whether or not Lenlo is a wolf

 

 

This is what makes me think we should be trying to look elsewhere right now? Lenlo's resolution would give us a LOT of help, I think, but we can't afford to lose more town players.

 

 

What are you suggesting here?

 

 

 

I wonder if Lenlo is being pushed through as a town player, and am worried that other reads are too dependent on his flip. If he IS town, we aren't really in a position to lose him for that sake as we've lost too many town already.

ReleaseTheEvil Spam Master

ReleaseTheEvil

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  On 11/6/2015 at 4:29 PM, cory caboose said:

Lynching for info?

 

I've seen Lenlo described by someone as an info Lynch. Which I'm now understanding a bit more as it may shed more light on EoD votes and hammers

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