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How experienced are wishtree, celeste, and Ocicat?

 

I want to make the following bets.

 

Wishtree: 10-30 games

Celeste: 10 games

Ocicat: 10 games

I actually have more games under my belt then wish. Also my thoughts are all over the place usually.
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@Mish Have you caught up yet? If so what are your thoughts?

 

 

This was 7am my time (GMT+1). I am not awake at 7am. Expect me at 1pm my time at the earliest. Yes, I sleep until noon. Chronically ill. Did I get a good nights sleep tonight? Nope >.< pains kept me awake until like 5 in the morning. Fibro is FUN guys :D :P

 

 

 

Caught up now. Thoughts. Yes. I have some.

 

I don't feel good about Len. His ISO on Talya and posting post counts and such feels like trying to look helpful and engaged and like he's #solving, instead of having to add actual content.

I'm liking Lee, Cory and Sili.

My first game with Eld and Oci, so they are hard for me to read at this point.

JS feels relaxed, wich is a good thing.

Also feeling good about Wisheste, Celeste seems more "on" and Wish more relaxed than TUS.

 

Yep, that's it for now.

 

 

[v] Len [/v]

Thank you. I will look at Lenlo more then.
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There were two bits in general from Lenlo's ISO of Talya that I liked and thought were >> to come from a villager:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I have heard someone say in the last game about him not voting enough for his town meta, so interesting that you brought that up.
Thanks for that.
@ Leelou, if he was Mafia, why bring it up. Not that I think it makes him either alignment on that. I don't think Kiv would let them talk in their thread, but 4 days to think through you strategy with or without your team is something to bear in mind.

 
If he would be trying to use it as a way to incriminate someone, then why not?

Would it not have been better to see what he did from there, now he is unlikely to. So the point is lost.
 
??
 
If he's town, then he wouldn't want to bring it up so that it would be more effective to catch scum.
 
If he's scum, he would and should bring it up to gain town cred for the 'thought process'.

I take you point. But also bringing it up also makes others aware of it to look out for, as I said before. At the moment it is a null tell for me.

 

I disagree with Verbs reasoning in the Quote Talya is responding to. I dont see how not bringing it up helps catch scum. Please enlighten me.

 

One thing I notice a lot more from villagers than wolves is this sort of willingness to get "distracted" - ie, he starts browsing through Talya's posts, and as he is pouring through them he notices something from another player that gets him all glossy-eyed. Here he's lost his focus on Talya and is now concerned about Verbal's logic and the "reading through quotes and finding something that turns you off from a player other than the one you are ISOing" feels very real from him.

 

 

 

 

 

Ugh I just feel dirty. I don't like having to do the Sisyphus act and I really, really, really would like to do well because I always feel people are at least somewhat relying on me to give it my all and give at least ~moderate strength reads and that's probably just a weird stupid #INFP perception.
 
I just don't know how to process when people give me a hard time for dumb reasons because then I have to think about why they are doing it and what it means and it just adds a whole new level of cluster to an already complicated and difficult game.
 
It's Friday, I should be in a better mood.

 
Hey, I just want to town clear you early. 
 
What are your thoughts on Talya?
 
[unvote]

What are your thoughts on me?

 

Pressin Leelou for her thoughts on her. Valid thing to do imo with how they were previously interacting

 

 

This was one of the few "+s" I had in my notepad for Talya. When her and Leelou were 1v1ing and Leelou started looking for outside opinions, Talya immediately dug in to what Leelou was holding to her nose. I like that for Talya - whom might just leave it alone as a wolf rather than potentially exacerbate the situation - and I like that Lenlo, while mostly digging through Talya and finding it mostly to be fluff and "null" type posting, correctly points out one of the good posts Talya made and credits her. Seems very much like Lenlo is actually trying to read Talya rather than doing an ISO with a foregone conclusion on her alignment, which is something I've caught him doing as a wolf before.

 

 

 

I don't support a lynch on Lenlo today. I'm caught up 100% now on notepad and I'm almost ready to start dropping bombs, etc.

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oh hey its started.

 

a couple days ago i think i wanted to vote john snow, for completely arbitrary reasons, so I'll do that.

 

[v]John Snow[/v]

Hard claiming Gladiator. So come at me bro.

 

I think I should counter-claim Gladiator now :)

 

 

lol

 

 

I have read and taken notes up to page 10. I´ll continue to read and hopefully post some thoughts later today. 

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FTR, I won't answer to Leels, Leelers or any variation like that. Leelou, Lee, Lou, Lauren and Elle are all fine. 

 

Lenlo - I was poking the bear with Cory to see how he'd react. Needless to say, he's in my town pile.

The ISO was mostly to just get all her posts in one place. I didnt get to look at some of the posts around each of them like I probably should have, so take my comments with a grain of salt in there.

 

Are you sure I cant call you that? Like super sure? There aint a deal I can make for this?

I think you should read some in context, they were answers to questions :p

 

Interested in knowing why you wanted to ISO me Lenlo. To me you were putting this there to gauge what response you would get and to see if you could push a case against me. Felt wolfy.

 

[unvote]

 

[v]Lenlo[/v]

 

I ISOed you because you were a topic of interest before and I didnt want that discussion to just fall by the wayside forgotten. This is D1, we should keep all discussions open until they are decided 1 way or the other.

 

 

 

....Were you making a point here, or just trying to look helpful?

[v]Lenlo[/v]

 

They were talking about activity, namely Ocicat so I wanted to provide them the current post count to help their discussion. You wanna actually scum hunt or you just gonna keep nitpicking crap?

 

 

@Mish Have you caught up yet? If so what are your thoughts?

 

This was 7am my time (GMT+1). I am not awake at 7am. Expect me at 1pm my time at the earliest. Yes, I sleep until noon. Chronically ill. Did I get a good nights sleep tonight? Nope >.< pains kept me awake until like 5 in the morning. Fibro is FUN guys :D :P

 

 

 

Caught up now. Thoughts. Yes. I have some.

 

I don't feel good about Len. His ISO on Talya and posting post counts and such feels like trying to look helpful and engaged and like he's #solving, instead of having to add actual content.

I'm liking Lee, Cory and Sili.

My first game with Eld and Oci, so they are hard for me to read at this point.

JS feels relaxed, wich is a good thing.

Also feeling good about Wisheste, Celeste seems more "on" and Wish more relaxed than TUS.

 

Yep, that's it for now.

 

 

[v] Len [/v]

 

Bold - Yeah, cause the last like 10-15 pages of discussion about Eldrick, Talya, Ocicat and other such topics with Sili and other people wasnt actually me. It was just someone else with the same name as me in this game that no one knows about. Seriously? Your going to ignore everything else ive done and say I am not contributing to this game? Thats a BS reason to vote and looks to me like your just trying to hop onto an easy train of a player that is historically easy to lynch. FOS Mish. FOS.

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There were two bits in general from Lenlo's ISO of Talya that I liked and thought were >> to come from a villager:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ugh I just feel dirty. I don't like having to do the Sisyphus act and I really, really, really would like to do well because I always feel people are at least somewhat relying on me to give it my all and give at least ~moderate strength reads and that's probably just a weird stupid #INFP perception.

 

I just don't know how to process when people give me a hard time for dumb reasons because then I have to think about why they are doing it and what it means and it just adds a whole new level of cluster to an already complicated and difficult game.

 

It's Friday, I should be in a better mood.

 

Hey, I just want to town clear you early. 

 

What are your thoughts on Talya?

 

[unvote]

What are your thoughts on me?

 

Pressin Leelou for her thoughts on her. Valid thing to do imo with how they were previously interacting

 

 

This was one of the few "+s" I had in my notepad for Talya. When her and Leelou were 1v1ing and Leelou started looking for outside opinions, Talya immediately dug in to what Leelou was holding to her nose. I like that for Talya - whom might just leave it alone as a wolf rather than potentially exacerbate the situation - and I like that Lenlo, while mostly digging through Talya and finding it mostly to be fluff and "null" type posting, correctly points out one of the good posts Talya made and credits her. Seems very much like Lenlo is actually trying to read Talya rather than doing an ISO with a foregone conclusion on her alignment, which is something I've caught him doing as a wolf before.

 

 

 

I don't support a lynch on Lenlo today. I'm caught up 100% now on notepad and I'm almost ready to start dropping bombs, etc.

 

I liked that interaction as well. I'm going to go back and have a look at Leelou's posts as well.

Posted

I just wanna talk man. I wanna know how your days going. How you think the games goin. Maybe we can get around to who you think is scum, but that can wait until the second talk if you like.

Posted

Well, you telling me where that read came from may help me figure out if you're a wolf. So I am trying to find wolves.

Posted

No. I'm just wondering where it came from.

 

As I was going back looking at Leelou's posts, you actually came up as being questionable to me, so I would like to know too!

Posted

 

No. I'm just wondering where it came from.

 

As I was going back looking at Leelou's posts, you actually came up as being questionable to me, so I would like to know too!

 

How does Leelou's posts make me look questionable?

Posted

Gee Cory. So helpful  :rolleyes:

 

I will speak up when it's necessary

 

For now I suggest you just accept that I generally play close to the chest until I feel I need to step in, or if you want to make this into a tango I'm ready to dance

 

If you are a villager, badgering me because I liked something from you early and came to a correct conclusion is probably poor form and reminds me more of the turbo where you fooled me by consistently giving me crap while I was (admittedly incorrectly) townreading you than anything else I've seen you do

 

So I'll have that in my head for awhile  :flamingsword:

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