Ragnarok Game Thread - Game Over, Town Wins!

[Andrej]

^ I agree. I noted that exchange early on in my read thru

[Andrej]

Good morning btw

[Leelou]

Good morning btw

 

Yo

[Leelou]

Verbal is breaking my heart.

[Talya]

Leelou, what are your views on Tina now.

 

@mish...I got the same feeling from ISOong JS, apart from that stuff end of day two he looks town.

 

Well that was embarrassing, on the train an hour early because course finished early..,the ticket I got through work only allowed me on the later train :(, luckily nice conductor allowed me to stay on and not pay.

 

Wishing you all the best BFG, that sucks... Hope all your friends are ok!

[Talya]

I'm so disappointed inVerb...his is at the bottom with Tina right now. BFG and AJ are still down there due to their alter egos

[Andrej]

Verbal is breaking my heart.

Could go there. What do you make of Celeste's vote/insistence Verb was scum D2?

 

Also could go Tina at this point. I agree her reads have been static but I'm still working my way through D2 so I'll see how I feel about her vote on Wish/Celeste.

 

iirc Sili said there was no counter train so I find it extremely unlikely none of WishLeste's buddies were voting her.

[Leelou]

Leelou, what are your views on Tina now.

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I think she's caught down a tunnel. I'm seeing some slight progression, but not what I'd expect from her. 

[Leelou]

 

Verbal is breaking my heart.

Could go there. What do you make of Celeste's vote/insistence Verb was scum D2?

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I need to read it again in detail, but it almost gave me a vibe that he's not on their team when I looked at it quickly. 

[Taborline]

Done with Snow's ISO. 95% certain he's town. We will not lynch there today. Read his ISO for yourself if in doubt.

 

I think you're right, though my percentage might be down to 90%. It would indeed have had to be a pretty elaborate set up for him and Tal to be scum, and she couldn't be if he's town (otherwise why would he say in-thread that she is). But I still don't want to rule out the possibility of them being in together.

[Taborline]

Which kind of leaves Verb and Sooh/BFG by process of elimination.

[Taborline]

Or Tina or Tress. Bugger.

[michellem]

Verb is not a team with Wisheste. that I'm pretty certain off.

 

But he's my prime Loki candidate at the moment.

[Andrej]

He definitely has Loki equity. My hang up with him isn't really the Celeste interaction but how Tina is handling him. I think townTina goes a lot harder at Verb here than she has, besides putting him mildly into her scum reads. Her flipping scum doesn't really make him look better imo.

[Songstress]

Which kind of leaves Verb and Sooh/BFG by process of elimination.

 

 

Or Tina or Tress. Bugger.

 

I think you're forgetting some people.  

 

Where's Ocicat/AJ in your estimation now?   How about Eldrick, who you had as null yesterday?

[Leelou]

He definitely has Loki equity. My hang up with him isn't really the Celeste interaction but how Tina is handling him. I think townTina goes a lot harder at Verb here than she has, besides putting him mildly into her scum reads. Her flipping scum doesn't really make him look better imo.

How do you feel about Tina's handling of me?

[Taborline]

Verb is not a team with Wisheste. that I'm pretty certain off.

 

But he's my prime Loki candidate at the moment.

 

What gives you that feeling? His interactions with Wishleste, and their readings of him, could be pretty null really. In looking through they call him town, null and scum but don't really develop anything more on that apart from

 

 

 

Vote: Verbal He's just odd all around. His tone and the fact that he isn't around much. Also I see little content in his posts.

 

or

 

 

 

Seriously verbal is scum. His interactions seen strange with the people who play with him a lot.

 

Which really doesn't tell anything when other people already have him on their lists.

[Taborline]

 

Which kind of leaves Verb and Sooh/BFG by process of elimination.

 

 

Or Tina or Tress. Bugger.

 

I think you're forgetting some people.  

 

Where's Ocicat/AJ in your estimation now?   How about Eldrick, who you had as null yesterday?

 

 

I'm working my way through, trying to look at everyone's interactions with wishleste.

[michellem]

I've already covered why Tab, when I did my Celeste ISO.

[Taborline]

I've already covered why Tab, when I did my Celeste ISO.

 

I was almost going to add, "If you've already said, just say "Yes" and I'll go find it".

[Kivam]

 

Vote Count

 

Taborline (1) - John Snow

Talya (1) - Taborline

Tina (1) - Talya

AJ (1) - Tina

John Snow (1) - Eldrick

 

[Verbal32]

 

 

 

[v]Ocicat[/v]

 

Don't like how he has essentially asked others who he should be voting for, and wants cases presented to him he can "judge" worthiness of his vote on.  That looks like he's just appealing to the more active players (like Cory) and ensuring his votes and actions will go with the flow.  Enough for me on D1.

 

This is garbage btw. I have personally seen Verb argue the merit of sheeping your strong town reads when you are unsure, which is essentially what Oci was saying he would do, so this argument is hollow. Looks like Verb didn't want to be on the Pral wagon if you ask me.

 

Sort of retract what I said about Talya because she explains a little more on the next page, but still - those posts at a glance worry me.

 

 

I probably argue that point/tactic more often when I'm scum, though.  Just sayin'.

 

 

 

 

Verbal is breaking my heart.

 

Sorry, just haven't had time at work like I thought.

 

 

 

 

I'm so disappointed inVerb...his is at the bottom with Tina right now. BFG and AJ are still down there due to their alter egos

 

You'll get over it.  Everybody has the times where they think their schedule allows for a game larger than what they normally play, and then it all goes to hell.

 

 

 

 

Verb is not a team with Wisheste. that I'm pretty certain off.

 

But he's my prime Loki candidate at the moment.

 

I understand the Loki equity, but it doesn't make sense with regards to my actual stances.  Why not lynch Pral, then?  Why draw attention to myself if I was WKing him?  As a 3P, it is much easier to go with the flow.  Scum will sometimes WK and make the stand for town cred, but that risk is sometimes worth it when you have a team backing you up.  As a 3P, it is never a good idea (imo).

[Leelou]

 

 

Verbal is breaking my heart.

Sorry, just haven't had time at work like I thought.

Talk to me about Tina.

[Andrej]

 

He definitely has Loki equity. My hang up with him isn't really the Celeste interaction but how Tina is handling him. I think townTina goes a lot harder at Verb here than she has, besides putting him mildly into her scum reads. Her flipping scum doesn't really make him look better imo.

How do you feel about Tina's handling of me?

Not great. She's consistently been calling you scum from D1 that I've seen but hasn't voted you once iirc. Her vote has primarily been on me/Oci until the Celeste wagon built on D2. Haven't gotten to that point yet to see when she actually votes, but I'll definitely be looking for it.

[Andrej]

@Verb - the last time I saw you do it (if I'm remembering correctly) was in the Belicheck game and you were a townie. So no, basically.