[Advanced] The Usual Suspects Mafia - GAME OVER - COPS WIN

[Clovdyx]

It was this post, Cory.

 

Hally, I think that means you have to a
Stay and share.
Hally,real quick. Are you town?

And kiv, grudges man... they don't belong in this game. If your town, I don't want any clouded judgement, or a vendetta here.
all it does is cloud things up.for the whole game, so please please dont...

 

It just read increidbly awkward to me.  He's making a joke to Hallia, and then immediately turns around and asks if she's town.  It's like he wants to show that he's comfortable with her but then acts like he's not.  

 

But tbh, it's probably more about Zander than Seph at this point.  I feel his actual contribution to the game doesn't match the amount of posts he has and is just trying to remain visible

[WWWwombat]

Just so everyone knows, this is why I hate big games.

I'm constantly in catchup mode and have no idea what's what, who's who, or what is going on.

I hope this game has a lot of guns in it.

 

If I'm Santa you know where my presents are going.

 

 

This seems important to be honest. [unvote]

[v]Laine[/v]

 

To add pressure.

 

What is this I don't even

 

 

I'm tired of catching up screw this.

 

 

WE'RE DOING IT LIVE!

THE O'DERP FACTOR

 

[Kaylee]

OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT

 

Hallia (1): Lenlo

Seph/Zander (3): ClovFG, John Snow, Kivish

Nolderf (1): Laine

Kivish (4): Hallia, Nyce, Zander/Seph, Shad

Lenlo (1): CorKey

Wombicat (1): AJ

John Snow (1): Yates

Laine (1): Sili

Csarmi (1): Nolderf

 

 

Not Voting (6): Razen, Pral, Csarmi, Talya, Wish/Celeste, Wombicat

 

With 20 alive, it takes 11 to lynch.

 

Deadline is Monday Aug 17th @ 9am MST/Noon EST

[Clovdyx]

 

I guess I don't understand what you're saying he's lacking, then.  

 

Interest in doing anything besides the bare minimum would be a start

 

 

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[Cory Caboose]

I'm not asking you to force reads

I'm saying you are treating this whole game as a job and you don't seem to want to relax and mess around and have fun. You have seemed so NATURAL as a villager in your past few games, and here it's "well everyone expects me to make a reads posts so I'm going to and then I'm done with my time here"

[Zander?]

Except you didn't.  You reached back to my early game posts - where I was faking emo to win an argument with Shad about the advisability of using emo as a towntell - and said nothing at all about the actual post that you called an appeal to emotion.  What people are looking for is an explanation of why you thought that post (not other posts, that one) "appealed to emotion".  Can you provide one?

 

it along with other posts continued to ping me as AtE, whining rage.  a full spectrum of poor me posts. i meant these not this but w/e.  ive tried to explain my thought process out.  somethings not sitting right with your slot. (ive mentioned other reasons as well: Pral vote, no casing, some of Mish's reactions.)

 

i hope this is better.

[Cory Caboose]

 

 

I guess I don't understand what you're saying he's lacking, then.  

 

Interest in doing anything besides the bare minimum would be a start

 

 

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[WWWwombat]

dawnflower8 is a good comparison

 

maybe throw a dash of Red2111 in there

 

 

dawnflower8 is a good comparison

 

maybe throw a dash of Red2111 in there

Are you serious? Is this a joke?

 

 

trolololololol

 

 

 

45 pages how wonderful.  Gonna need a drink.  Or six.

 

[unvote]

 

DrunkMafia is best mafia. 

 

 

Yep.

[WWWwombat]

 

I guess nobody saw my post on how this seems like AtE from Kiv? 

  

 

I don't see the AtE that someone brought up in Kiv's post. I find AtE to me more desperate tone then the tone Kiv shows.

Do you mean this one? Missed it :/

The two post are contradictory. Did you think it AtE or you didn't?

 

 

Talya, I am disappoint.

[WWWwombat]

 

 

 

OK, genuinely not liking the byplay between Sili and Hally there.  Have no idea what the relevant difference they're relying on is.  Someone care to explain?

 

Cory, can you explain that read?

Wait, really?

 

You (seemingly) voted AJ due to anger carried over from another game.  It had nothing to do with this one.

 

Laine is (seemingly) using her hydra position to try and figure out this game.  But obviously her position on LAH needs to change with evidence/reads, so she needs to have some kind of progression.  Otherwise it's a poor excuse for play.

 

 

Why shouldn't that apply equally to Kiv's vote?

 

What do you mean?

 

 

Like if Kiv abandons his AJ vote, which he just did, why does it matter anymore?

[Clovdyx]

 

 

 

I guess I don't understand what you're saying he's lacking, then.  

 

Interest in doing anything besides the bare minimum would be a start

 

 

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(It was because you said that his thought process is lacking and then tried to back up that claim by talking about effort)

[WWWwombat]

Also, glad to see you commenting more on game related stuff Womby. Was missing this.

 

Apparently, so were a lot of people.

 

 

 

Apette dynamic is strong.  Fortunately, Ape can't hide.

 

If you don't know what that means, you're not supposed to.

Secrets don't make friends.

 

 

Do you want my cell phone?  I haven't destroyed it yet.

[Zander?]

[v]ClovFG[/v]

 

BFG's response in #708 is 100% a satiation of me and I don't ever believe that being genuine coming from someone as astute as her. She's trying to pin it back on me by saying "you should know that my posting is inverse to the game volume!" when she's been around and just doesn't seem to want to do anything besides make little "villagery" read WoTs. It looks so much more like her trying to mess with my head by having a conflicted read on me then her actually trying to read me.

 

Almost everything else from her is pretty standard line things that have been said before. Nyn is villagery because she's been abrasive. Razen is villagery because he made some really pure posts. Hallia had a good start etc. etc.

 

Refuses to come up with anything resembling a read on Kivam despite him being really the #1 source of discussion today.

 

Especially if her reason for not posting is that she's reading the thread, I would expect something more objective, unique points, but it's all the same backwash most of the loud people have been saying afaict.

 

She's a better villager than this.

 

well you didnt shake it.  im not ready to vote here by any means though i will admit i havent seen BFG town AS hard as i have.

[WWWwombat]

Wombat whats it like to be town? Describe it for me.

 

It's like being drunk on purity and goodness.  Put your hands in the air cuz you just don't care!

[WWWwombat]

 

Cool.

 

Town:

Razen

Hallia

Sili

Nyn

Bfg

Nol

AJ

 

[v]Zander[/v]

 

Not feeling the Kivam/Mish lynch atm. 

 

cause reasons?

 

 

Reasons are overrated.

 

 

I think you are making the pretty grand mistake of assuming Zander knows the meanings of the words he uses

 

?:(

 

 

 

Apette dynamic is strong.  Fortunately, Ape can't hide.

 

If you don't know what that means, you're not supposed to.

 

lmfao

 

 

 

 

 

Apette dynamic is strong.  Fortunately, Ape can't hide.

 

If you don't know what that means, you're not supposed to.

 

lmfao

+1.

 

Meanwhile, Wombat and Alanna, get your Ragnarok night actions in (not that JiF isn't holding up the game anyway)

 

 

;-)

[Cory Caboose]

 

 

 

 

I guess I don't understand what you're saying he's lacking, then.  

 

Interest in doing anything besides the bare minimum would be a start

 

 

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(It was because you said that his thought process is lacking and then tried to back up that claim by talking about effort)

 

 

You lost me

 

AFAICT AJ can't help but wrack his brain as a villager and he's not doing that here

 

I really have zero idea what you are trying to say

[Cory Caboose]

I mean sometimes it's a bowl of stupid flakes but I'll take that over the bland oatmeal I'm getting

[WWWwombat]

 

 

 

Sili - why disappointing? You're misreading my subjective intent, the same way clov and nyn are. No amount of arguing is going to convince you about what's in my head, so what's the point? Sent from my SM-G900P using Tapatalk

 

prolly a few more then that....

 

again with these types of comments!!!

 

this emo, AtE type comments are not a good look for you man.

 

 

How is that AtE at all?

 

 

this was meant to be these  biggest missed part of this was the bolded.  emo whiny rage esc posts.

 

[v]AJ[/v]. Will be my policy lynch choice unless something significantly better comes along. Yes, i am still very, very pissed. Sent from my SM-G900P using Tapatalk

 

 

I made a joke to shad about teaching our kids to vote for each other while at L-1. AJ counted it as a self hammer because i used vote tags. Complete BS and it just happened a few hours ago in a game i put a ton of effort into - apparently more than i should have. A total garbage decision by a bad mod Sent from my SM-G900P using Tapatalk

 

 

Don't self vote at L-1 imo. Now, leave it be. It's not involved in this game so don't bring it here. Rule 14? Sent from my SM-G900P using Tapatalk

 

Follow the fail of the bolded:

 

 

Whatever. Dropping it out of respect for THESE mods. Vote stays Sent from my SM-G900P using Tapatalk

 

 

Sorry, guys (mods especially). Going to be busy at work and I find myself still not in the mood for spammy chatter.  Mish, carry the weight for a bit, please

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Great, 15 pages already. Ollie is playing swat the phone out of my hands and I won't be around for long, catching up on what I can.

Bet you can't teach him to say [v]Kivam[/v] before I can teach mine to say [v]Shad[/v]

 

Are you voting here? I can't tell.

 

NOW THAT'S SOME GOOD MODERATION.

 

Nope, that was banter, not a vote.  Excellent way of clarifying an otherwise ambiguous post.

 

(Stopping now, I promise)

 

 

and this is just the first page of his iso. 

 

whinging and complaining and raging...emo...seems like he wants people to feel bad for him imo hence AtE.

 

hope i explained this better.

 

 

So you meant to quote a whole bunch of posts you didn't quote?  WUT?

[Clovdyx]

My biggest problem with AJ is that the tone is there but the thought process isn't

 

AJ is a very good "tone faker" as Mafia and sometimes relies on it, I remember him getting to like ~Day 4 in a POG game as a wolf solely on having good tone without actually even doing anything

 

Can see him trying to use it as a crutch as wolf

 

I assumed this was a state referring to this game.  I think he's actually done a better job explaining his thoughts a lot of the game.  I asked what's he not showing and you basically said a desire to do anything.  That's not even remotely the same thing as what you said here.

 

Why are you having a hard time understanding literally everything I've said this game?

[Clovdyx]

I mean sometimes it's a bowl of stupid flakes but I'll take that over the bland oatmeal I'm getting

 

That was a genius post and did not get the appreciation it deserved.

[WWWwombat]

[v]ClovFG[/v]

 

BFG's response in #708 is 100% a satiation of me and I don't ever believe that being genuine coming from someone as astute as her. She's trying to pin it back on me by saying "you should know that my posting is inverse to the game volume!" when she's been around and just doesn't seem to want to do anything besides make little "villagery" read WoTs. It looks so much more like her trying to mess with my head by having a conflicted read on me then her actually trying to read me.

 

Almost everything else from her is pretty standard line things that have been said before. Nyn is villagery because she's been abrasive. Razen is villagery because he made some really pure posts. Hallia had a good start etc. etc.

 

Refuses to come up with anything resembling a read on Kivam despite him being really the #1 source of discussion today.

 

Especially if her reason for not posting is that she's reading the thread, I would expect something more objective, unique points, but it's all the same backwash most of the loud people have been saying afaict.

 

She's a better villager than this.

 

I can see what you're saying here, but Clov looks ok to me and I need more from BFG.

[WWWwombat]

 

Essentially the issue with larger games is that I have to spend more time reading, which means less time posting, I'm pretty sure you know this?

 

Not buying it

 

 

Reading people without interaction is a skill.  Acquire it.

[Cory Caboose]

 

My biggest problem with AJ is that the tone is there but the thought process isn't

 

AJ is a very good "tone faker" as Mafia and sometimes relies on it, I remember him getting to like ~Day 4 in a POG game as a wolf solely on having good tone without actually even doing anything

 

Can see him trying to use it as a crutch as wolf

 

I assumed this was a state referring to this game.  I think he's actually done a better job explaining his thoughts a lot of the game.  I asked what's he not showing and you basically said a desire to do anything.  That's not even remotely the same thing as what you said here.

 

Why are you having a hard time understanding literally everything I've said this game?

 

 

I probably couldn't disagree more with the idea he's done a good job explaining his thoughts

Almost nothing has stuck out to me

 

AJ has no problem taking controversial stances and pushing them with some force as a villager and I can usually read him based on whether or not he's trying to do work or show work

 

Last one seems more like a you problem than a me problem

[WWWwombat]

Wombles, I'm not convinced you're the best lynch for the day, but you've literally done nothing this game.  I'm seen you do these little empty quotes as both town as mafia so that means nothing towards your algnment, but you always do SOMETHING to actually build off.  Even that post about Mish is close ended (for lack of a better word).  Nobody can argue whether you really like it or not.  

 

What do you want me to be arguing about right now?  The only controversy I see in this thread atm is the Kiv thing and I've made my opinion quite clear on that.

[Cory Caboose]

Reading people without interaction is a skill.  Acquire it.

 

My reads have this stupid tendency to be correct

But whatever, I'll put the boxing gloves away for awhile