[Advanced] The Usual Suspects Mafia - GAME OVER - COPS WIN

[alannalynn]

Thanks Talya :)

 

Here:

 

 

You're also outside of your business hours

Yeah. Been doing OT all game. Only way I thought I'd be able to a. keep up and b. interact IRT with certain players like you and Talya.

Wouldn't normally be here but on leave right now, and migraine clear today, so hyper

I actually agree with Yates, day 1 they would have been hunting wolves, or trying to distance as per normal Mafia.

 

[Nolder]

 

Speaking of inactive where has my partner been? We aren't communicating much. Is he helping ya'll at all or no?

 

 

There's 23 posts in our QT right now. 16 are mine. 3 are modposts. You do the math.

[csarmi]

23-16-3 = 4

[Nolder]

@Nolder - your analysis completely misses the voting dynamics close to EoD1, I suppose you should just read all that in context.

Let's agree to disagree on that. For one that's just not going to happen. It's too much reading and obviously I'm having trouble even staying "in the moment" with this game. Secondly I think perhaps it might be useful to see my perspective as almost an outside perspective since I've read very little past pages 30-40. I'm giving you a blind interpretation of the wagons without the baggage of tunneling and other such drama.

[alannalynn]

 

 

Speaking of inactive where has my partner been? We aren't communicating much. Is he helping ya'll at all or no?

 /snip

 

There's 23 posts in our QT right now. 16 are mine. 3 are modposts. You do the math.

 

What was it I did to Thane and Verbal in Star Wars... oh yeah! THE REASON YOU HAVE SO LITTLE IN YOUR SCUM QT IS BECAUSE ALL THE TALK IS IN YOUR MAFIA QT LOLOLOLOL

 

[Talya]

You split the sentence...they are linked. Someone said they would be looking for other teams so hunting wolves, I was suggesting they could be doing that and distancing, so it would be hard to go through the thread to see what was going on, you have quoted out of context.

 

If they thought hey were the only team they would be hunting wolves ( or looking like it) and distancing.

[alannalynn]

I even messed upppp OMG

 

EBWOP: Hydra QT LMAO

[Zander?]

i hate snakes, you must be wolf

 

seems logical...

 

VC from Page 41

 

OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT

 

Hallia (1): Lenlo

Seph/Zander (1): ClovFG

Wish/Celeste (1): Sili

Nolderf (1): Laine

Laine (1): Wombicat

Kivish (4): Hallia, Nyce, Zander/Seph, Shad

Lenlo (1): CorKey

Shad (1): Kivish

Wombicat (1): AJ

 

 

Not Voting (8): Razen, Pral, Yates, John Snow, Csarmi, Nolderf, Talya, Wish/Celeste

 

With 20 alive, it takes 11 to lynch.

 

No deadline has been set at this time.

VC from page 61

 

INFJ mod checking in

 

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OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT

 

Seph/Zander (5): ClovFG, John Snow, Wombicat, Lenlo, Kivish

Nolderf (1): Laine

Kivish (5): Hallia, Nyce, Zander/Seph, Shad, Sili

Lenlo (1): CorKey

Wombicat (1): AJ

John Snow (1): Yates

Csarmi (1): Nolderf

 

 

Not Voting (5): Razen, Pral, Csarmi, Talya, Wish/Celeste

 

With 20 alive, it takes 11 to lynch.

 

Deadline is Monday Aug 17th @ 9am MST/Noon EST

VC from page 94

 

OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT:

 

Sephander (4): ClovFG, John Snow, Wombicat, Lenlo

Kivish (6): Hallia, Nyce, Sephander, Shad, Sili, Laine

Lenlo (2): CorKey, Razen

John Snow (1): Pral

Laine (1): Yates

Hallia (1): Talya

 

 

Not Voting (5): Csarmi, Wish/Celeste, Nolderf, AJ, Kivish

 

With 20 alive, it takes 11 to lynch.

Whew that took a long time.

I apologize for the rainbow, I hope it's not too distracting and that everyone is able to follow along with my thought process.

 

Ok so looking back is yielding some pretty interesting stuff.

The Lenlo train appears very split up prior to the lynch meaning maybe only two of them are teamed and most of it was coincidence,

I can't say about Hallia but Shad and Sili appear to be on a team, given they both hopped on the Kivish train together.

 

The most interesting thing to me though and the most concrete is that Wish/Celeste only briefly voted John Snow alongside Pral, otherwise they haven't been voting and aren't voting right now. Now I realize coming from Nolderf this comes off as maybe hypocritical but considering Wish is fighting for top posts with Kivam it's really surprising to me to see Wish/Celeste voting very little and not making any meaningful votes when they do. There's a lot of talk talk talk but not a lot of walking the walk if you see what I mean. All these colors could be meaningless for all I really know but the fact that stands out is that Wish/Celeste (mostly Wish) are talking a LOT but doing very little voting. I think that's a very good place to go moving forward, at least for me.

 

Going to override my counterpart here and [unvote]

 

[v]Wish/Celeste[/v]

 

Thoughts on how Tayla looks from this as well??

 

 

Hopefully Laine and you?

 

 

????

 

 

Shad (4): Sephander, Kivam, Wombicat, John Snow

Ok now that coloring is out of the way we see some interesting things just comparing these two trains.

It looks very likely that Wombicait, Sender, and Kivam are all on a team and using their numbers. Trying to brute force the lynches.

Say what now???

 

That would make a lot of sense if ALL you had to go on was VC and if you simply just forget everything you know about meta on these guys and how mafia games work in general. Sadly, there's also a whole game of interactions you'd have to read. To save you some time I can give you the simple answer. Wombicat, Sender, and Kiv were online and active at EOD. Think that maybe makes more sense than an entire team moving their votes as a blobk? Especially given Sender and Kiv were the two most viable lynch candidates - pushing each other - until the Lenlo wagon? This is REALLY obtuse thinking that you are trying to sell. And I know you better than that.

 

JFC - I feel like I'm being mod trolled right now and I'm a survivor but wasn't told because lolYates.

 

 

Yatesing ^^^^ {TM}

[Talya]

What do you get from that Zander?

[Zander?]

 

Talya the more you post the summier you look.

 

She has already claimed scum ITT. We just don't know which faction.

 

 

did i miss this??!!!

[Talya]

I didn't... :rolls eyes:

[Kivam]

What/ where is Revis Island?

 

The Bermuda triangle for wrs.

 

And it moves around. Most of the time it's in northern new jersey, but at least 8 times a year it's in other locations. Last year it was mostly in Massachusetts and the year before that mostly in Tampa Bay

 

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[Nolder]

 

i hate snakes, you must be wolf

 

seems logical...

 

VC from Page 41

 

OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT

 

Hallia (1): Lenlo

Seph/Zander (1): ClovFG

Wish/Celeste (1): Sili

Nolderf (1): Laine

Laine (1): Wombicat

Kivish (4): Hallia, Nyce, Zander/Seph, Shad

Lenlo (1): CorKey

Shad (1): Kivish

Wombicat (1): AJ

 

 

Not Voting (8): Razen, Pral, Yates, John Snow, Csarmi, Nolderf, Talya, Wish/Celeste

 

With 20 alive, it takes 11 to lynch.

 

No deadline has been set at this time.

VC from page 61

 

INFJ mod checking in

 

==========

 

OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT

 

Seph/Zander (5): ClovFG, John Snow, Wombicat, Lenlo, Kivish

Nolderf (1): Laine

Kivish (5): Hallia, Nyce, Zander/Seph, Shad, Sili

Lenlo (1): CorKey

Wombicat (1): AJ

John Snow (1): Yates

Csarmi (1): Nolderf

 

 

Not Voting (5): Razen, Pral, Csarmi, Talya, Wish/Celeste

 

With 20 alive, it takes 11 to lynch.

 

Deadline is Monday Aug 17th @ 9am MST/Noon EST

VC from page 94

 

OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT:

 

Sephander (4): ClovFG, John Snow, Wombicat, Lenlo

Kivish (6): Hallia, Nyce, Sephander, Shad, Sili, Laine

Lenlo (2): CorKey, Razen

John Snow (1): Pral

Laine (1): Yates

Hallia (1): Talya

 

 

Not Voting (5): Csarmi, Wish/Celeste, Nolderf, AJ, Kivish

 

With 20 alive, it takes 11 to lynch.

Whew that took a long time.

I apologize for the rainbow, I hope it's not too distracting and that everyone is able to follow along with my thought process.

 

Ok so looking back is yielding some pretty interesting stuff.

The Lenlo train appears very split up prior to the lynch meaning maybe only two of them are teamed and most of it was coincidence,

I can't say about Hallia but Shad and Sili appear to be on a team, given they both hopped on the Kivish train together.

 

The most interesting thing to me though and the most concrete is that Wish/Celeste only briefly voted John Snow alongside Pral, otherwise they haven't been voting and aren't voting right now. Now I realize coming from Nolderf this comes off as maybe hypocritical but considering Wish is fighting for top posts with Kivam it's really surprising to me to see Wish/Celeste voting very little and not making any meaningful votes when they do. There's a lot of talk talk talk but not a lot of walking the walk if you see what I mean. All these colors could be meaningless for all I really know but the fact that stands out is that Wish/Celeste (mostly Wish) are talking a LOT but doing very little voting. I think that's a very good place to go moving forward, at least for me.

 

Going to override my counterpart here and [unvote]

 

[v]Wish/Celeste[/v]

 

Thoughts on how Tayla looks from this as well??

 

She seems to be throwing her vote away. Has she been tunneling on Hallia and trying hard to get people to vote her? If not then I'd say she's not town. 

I'd double down on that if she's been actively nudging other suspects/trains.

[alannalynn]

You split the sentence...they are linked. Someone said they would be looking for other teams so hunting wolves, I was suggesting they could be doing that and distancing, so it would be hard to go through the thread to see what was going on, you have quoted out of context.

 

If they thought hey were the only team they would be hunting wolves ( or looking like it) and distancing.

I didn't quote anything out of context or split any sentences, that's what the comma was for

 

As for hunting wolves, that would imply they knew of multiple teams, which I'm trying to decide whether it's a towntell. Town might assume that scum already knows it's multiball; but from experience, even in the Middle Earth game, there was confusion if it was multiball even after being TOLD it was multiball.   Mehh Then again, if we know nothing of the mafia PM wording, they could have been given any type of information. I think it's safe to bet though that mafia thought they were the only mafia.  Slight town lean Yates, Talya

[Zander?]

 

Zanderrrrr you make no sense. And you can't just go arbitrarily lynching people based on things not related to the game like OMG

Gonna go out on a limb here and suggest maybe he was having a laugh...

 

 

 

lolololololololol??

[alannalynn]

 

What/ where is Revis Island?

The Bermuda triangle for wrs.

 

And it moves around. Most of the time it's in northern new jersey, but at least 8 times a year it's in other locations. Last year it was mostly in Massachusetts and the year before that mostly in Tampa Bay

 

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I still... don't understand?

[Talya]

@Alanna, sorry bad wording, by out of context I meant in respect to other posts around and what was said, not my post.

[Zander?]

The Salami Effect

 

What a mess we've made

It's ridiculous

The whole wide world's a stage of complete chaos

It's gets so funny that we get confused

We don't know where to turn cause we've all been used

 

The boys want to fight

But the girls are happy to dance all night

The boys want to fight

But the girls are happy to dance all night

Is there anybody else?

 

The Salami Policy:

 

Lunch Salami

[Talya]

 

 

Zanderrrrr you make no sense. And you can't just go arbitrarily lynching people based on things not related to the game like OMG

 

Gonna go out on a limb here and suggest maybe he was having a laugh...

 

 

lolololololololol??

I don't know why Yates would think you are having a laugh....Zander - NEVER

 

Lolololololololol

[csarmi]

I say we gotta hold on, to what we got

[Kivam]

Why Shad? This is why:

 

 

 

 

Kivam's doing damage control for Mish.  He's probably US mafia with Razen.

 

 

How did you get there from Mish?

 

Seph misrepped me.  Razen spun it in a bad way.  Mish spun it in the same bad way and voted me.  I called Mish out and Seph agreed with me, acted like it was a trap and never followed through with that.  Seph super misrepped Kivam and so did Laine.  Iirc everyone else who did is already dead.

 

Conclusion:  Kivam is cops mafia and Seph/Zander and Laine are US or Hungarian mafia.

 

And this is almost as insane. I mean your theory is that because Mish and Razen had the same take on you, they must (a) both be scum; and (b) both be on the same team?  (A) at least sort of follows (if you're bad at this game) from the logic that "player X is wrong therefore Player X is scum".  (B) does not.  Assuming you're a townie, a Usual Suspects mafioso or a Hungarian mafioso can't agree with a Cops Mafioso?  I'll grant you that it's pretty clear that Seph and I aren't both members of the same mafia team (though we may both be townies), between my run at Zander and Seph's reaction to Mish.  But how you could draw a specific team alignment out of that chain of deductions is a complete mystery.

 

Working theory: You are Hungarian mafia (since your spin is pure scum and mixing up US and Cops seems genuine).  Since the Hungarians are down two goons and no power role, you may well be their version of the watcher/tracker/whatever.  [unvote][v]Shad[/v]

[Talya]

 

The Salami EffectWhat a mess we've made

It's ridiculous

The whole wide world's a stage of complete chaos

It's gets so funny that we get confused

We don't know where to turn cause we've all been used

The boys want to fight

But the girls are happy to dance all night

The boys want to fight

But the girls are happy to dance all night

Is there anybody else?

 

 

The Salami Policy:

 

Lunch Salami

Not too keen...a little spicy for me..lol

[csarmi]

It doesn't make a difference if we make it or not

[Talya]

doesnt make a difference if we make it or not

[Talya]

It is actually lunchtime...I really should get dressed and do stuff