[Advanced] The Usual Suspects Mafia - GAME OVER - COPS WIN

[Yates]

For townmates, that is. But Dice, BFG and AJ failed me already. :(

Don't beat yourself up over it. Given over half the game is scum and it's multiball? They were actually legit scum hunting, too.

[Talya]

 

Because they haven't done too much, just had their quiz and chatted to people, and trusting of Kiv...that makes me suspicious of them, if he says not to trust him.

 

QFT

 

Not sure I want to wade through the spam though LOL

 

QFT?

[Zander?]

Salami managed to sketch me out. Yay.

 

Csarmi has that effect on people

[alannalynn]

 

Oh. Yates, don't judge. I've been at work all night.

LOL - I'm not judging. Just don't want that to get lost. I think my logic is sound.

I THINK. But I feel like it could be more useful down the road when we have less people. I still think at this point crossfire is more likely to hit mafia than town.

 

 

You're also outside of your business hours

Yeah. Been doing OT all game. Only way I thought I'd be able to a. keep up and b. interact IRT with certain players like you and Talya.

I've been doing WORK overtime for two weeks and I start school tomorrow. If you want to talk to me when I can make some sense and actually think and make cases, talk to me on the weekends. lol

[Yates]

Zanderrrrr you make no sense. And you can't just go arbitrarily lynching people based on things not related to the game like OMG

Gonna go out on a limb here and suggest maybe he was having a laugh...

[Yates]

Alright. I've got to shower, get ready for work, and get the sweetness ready for the babysitter. See yall after my commute.

[Talya]

 

You're also outside of your business hours

Yeah. Been doing OT all game. Only way I thought I'd be able to a. keep up and b. interact IRT with certain players like you and Talya.

Wouldn't normally be here but on leave right now, and migraine clear today, so hyper

 

I actually agree with Yates, day 1 they would have been hunting wolves, or trying to distance as per normal Mafia.

[csarmi]

The Salami Effect

 

What a mess we've made

It's ridiculous

The whole wide world's a stage of complete chaos

It's gets so funny that we get confused

We don't know where to turn cause we've all been used

 

The boys want to fight

But the girls are happy to dance all night

The boys want to fight

But the girls are happy to dance all night

Is there anybody else?

[Talya]

This is a merry dance, lol

[csarmi]

 

 

You're also outside of your business hours

Yeah. Been doing OT all game. Only way I thought I'd be able to a. keep up and b. interact IRT with certain players like you and Talya.

 

Wouldn't normally be here but on leave right now, and migraine clear today, so hyper

 

I actually agree with Yates, day 1 they would have been hunting wolves, or trying to distance as per normal Mafia.

 

HMM wait I got an idea!

 

We could probably figure out who are NOT teammates based on D1 pushes.

[alannalynn]

 

Zanderrrrr you make no sense. And you can't just go arbitrarily lynching people based on things not related to the game like OMG

Gonna go out on a limb here and suggest maybe he was having a laugh...

LDO

 

 

For townmates, that is. But Dice, BFG and AJ failed me already. :(

Don't beat yourself up over it. Given over half the game is scum and it's multiball? They were actually legit scum hunting, too.

Do you assume that the scum teams knew it was multiball d1?

[alannalynn]

@CS, I thought that too; but... that's a lot of work that I can't put in quite yet. Not til Thursday/Friday

[Zander?]

Speaking of inactive where has my partner been? We aren't communicating much. Is he helping ya'll at all or no?

 

[Talya]

They might have known or guessed, or maybe not at all.

 

Good luck for tomorrow Laine. Is it everyday you have to go to school?

[csarmi]

Do you assume that the scum teams knew it was multiball d1?

No I assume they didn't... so they tried to push people not on their team and townread people who thought to be town (they'd think anyone not on their team to be town).

[csarmi]

@CS, I thought that too; but... that's a lot of work that I can't put in quite yet. Not til Thursday/Friday

and yea me neither

 

until then I'll just lynch people who don't like Garbage

[csarmi]

Well actually we have national holidays tomorrow so a long weekend (4 days off).

 

WOOOOOOOOOOOO

[Nolder]

 

 

OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT:

 

Nolderf (1): CorKey

Pral (2): Nolderf, Sili

Shad (4): Sephander, Kivam, Wombicat, John Snow

Kivam (2): Hally, Csarmi

Yates (1): Talya

 

Not Voting: (6): Laine, Shad, Pral, Yates, Wish/Celeste

 

With 15 alive, it takes 8 to lynch.

 

Day 2 Deadline is Thursday, August 20, at 10:00 AM MST/1PM EDT:

http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20150820T09&p0=197&msg=Day+Two+Deadline&font=cursive&csz=1

Here is the current VC lets compare to end of D1.

Everyone who was on Lenlo train will be dark orange.

Everyone who was on Sender will be maroon.

Everyone who was on Kivam will be dark grey.

John Snow and Hallia trains seem like throwaway votes so going to combine them both into cyan.

Non voters will be plum.

 

Ok now that coloring is out of the way we see some interesting things just comparing these two trains.

It looks very likely that Wombicait, Sender, and Kivam are all on a team and using their numbers. Trying to brute force the lynches.

One of our non voters is still not voting. It appears my counterpart has chosen to vote Pral, why I don't know. I'll ask him lol.

Of the the throwaway voters two aren't voting atm and Talya has again thrown her vote on a non moving train, at least for now.

 

Now let's look into the past and check some D1 trains prior to the lynch using the same color scheme,

 

Underlined... ehhhh? Do you really think this would make sense? Think about it: D1 mafia may or may not have known about multiple teams, so they would want to lynch anyone but themselves. Why, after all those flips, line up like that so obviously? And what team would they be on... Cops? Mehh

 

You're probably right. Although it is possible they thought it wouldn't be noticed in such a big game so it could still be right maybe. Occam's Razor though.

[Nolder]

 

 

What do you think of Yates, throwing out the names and the link, then coming up with an obscure name? Seemed a bit (ok a lot) forced

Talking to me? If so I don't understand the question.

So on his team? Easy question, he linked the script, then claimed an obscure role.

 

@ Yates, you could easily have either claimed a role your saw or to prove you have that name, as the names are limited, it could be either, doesn't make you town by any means, you went out of your way to show it was a legit name. Which team are you on?

 

You're talking about something Yates said and asking me about it. I don't know what Yates said. If you want to link or quote it I'll take a look and tell you what I think but otherwise you'll have to settle for a shrug.

[csarmi]

@Nolder - your analysis completely misses the voting dynamics close to EoD1, I suppose you should just read all that in context.

[alannalynn]

They might have known or guessed, or maybe not at all.

 

Good luck for tomorrow Laine. Is it everyday you have to go to school?

I have school Mon-Thursday while I work I only have 8am classes two days, the other days are all 1pm and one night class Wednesday. but I still work 6-430am every day. New work schedules though soon, I'm trying to get on a Thurs-Sunday shift so that I can still work full time and sleep before school. ^.^

 

 

Do you assume that the scum teams knew it was multiball d1?

No I assume they didn't... so they tried to push people not on their team and townread people who thought to be town (they'd think anyone not on their team to be town).

Do you think it's odd for Yates and Talya to reply in a manner that suggest that scum DID know it was multiball d1?

[Zander?]

 

 

Never watched the movie?

Pshhh - not in like 10 years... I'm going to IMDB it real quick to refresh my memory on the characters:US would be:KeatonMcManusFensterHockneyOk - Verbal is a WC hereHungarians would be:KovazHorvart - not in the movie?????Keyser??????Kobyashi???Cops would be:KujanRabinBayer????Town would be:EdiePlummerWaltersFortierRenaultPapa HockneyUncle RandalDavid McManusWho am I missing? I can't even get 20 characters...Redfoot?Tucci, Higham, and Saul? <- JFC - possibly 4th scum set??

  

Had to dig in to the script to find some of these: http://www.pages.drexel.edu/~ina22/splaylib/Screenplay-Usual_Suspects.HTM

  

You know what? We can sort this out real fast...

5. You may roleclaim or character claim whatever you please.

Character claim: Uncle RandallNext??

This is the biggest pile of doo doo. You quote IMDB and then choose a character that you would have to look through the the script to find that you think no one else would have. You are so Mafia

 

[v]Yates[/v]

 

Could go Shad as well. But this hit me in the face like a wet kipper :p

 

And to the lovely modes, yes, I'm watching the film, lol

 

 

Try putting a vote where it will be useful.  What do you think the odds are of Yates being lynched today,  Seems like you're just voting for the sake of it.

 

 

Sili in this game

 

 

lolololol Did Pral subconsciously claim Maf....

[Talya]

 

They might have known or guessed, or maybe not at all.

Good luck for tomorrow Laine. Is it everyday you have to go to school?

 

I have school Mon-Thursday while I work I only have 8am classes two days, the other days are all 1pm and one night class Wednesday. but I still work 6-430am every day. New work schedules though soon, I'm trying to get on a Thurs-Sunday shift so that I can still work full time and sleep before school. ^.^

 

 

Do you assume that the scum teams knew it was multiball d1?

 

No I assume they didn't... so they tried to push people not on their team and townread people who thought to be town (they'd think anyone not on their team to be town).

Do you think it's odd for Yates and Talya to reply in a manner that suggest that scum DID know it was multiball d1?

Hope it works out.

 

The last bit, where did I say I thought they knew?

[Nolder]

Format fix...

 

Shad (4): Sephander, Kivam, Wombicat, John Snow

Ok now that coloring is out of the way we see some interesting things just comparing these two trains.

It looks very likely that Wombicait, Sender, and Kivam are all on a team and using their numbers. Trying to brute force the lynches.

 

Say what now???

 

That would make a lot of sense if ALL you had to go on was VC and if you simply just forget everything you know about meta on these guys and how mafia games work in general. Sadly, there's also a whole game of interactions you'd have to read. To save you some time I can give you the simple answer. Wombicat, Sender, and Kiv were online and active at EOD. Think that maybe makes more sense than an entire team moving their votes as a blobk? Especially given Sender and Kiv were the two most viable lynch candidates - pushing each other - until the Lenlo wagon? This is REALLY obtuse thinking that you are trying to sell. And I know you better than that.

 

JFC - I feel like I'm being mod trolled right now and I'm a survivor but wasn't told because lolYates.

 

D-did I hit a nerve? It's interesting how you cut yourself out of that quote.

[Talya]

@ Zander, I'll vote where I want and change if I want :p