Belichick - Mafia Eternal Night

[BFG]

 

 

 

Zander - your top 2 suspects?

 

I can guess one of them

 

obv Talya

 

and then AJ...though ive been reading him town ive wavered just a bit after the Verb interaction.

 

Curious as to your thoughts on Dice/Thane?

 

 

 

 

Zander - your top 2 suspects?

 

I can guess one of them

 

obv Talya

 

and then AJ...though ive been reading him town ive wavered just a bit after the Verb interaction.

 

Curious as to your thoughts on Dice/Thane?

 

 

i have had them both town most of the game.  the only thing that stuck out to me cause now Im looking at everyone with a least a little suss except you is their sudden change of read on each other.  but meh.

 

Only looking Talya and AJ now,  Im trying to keep a town pool and look outside of it,

 

Talya the best choice today imo.

 

Whats your preference order BFG?

 

I'm going to wait for what AJ/Talya have to say

[Talya]

I still need to go over AJ and Thane.

[Talya]

Thane,

 

ISO'd Thane, so will do it by ISO page...

 

P1

 - Mainly fluff

- Says he isn't voting Alanna for her not liking beer and Choc ice cream - not worth the vote

- Agrees Vigs should holster, says something about wolves using all theirs night 1

- Mentions Pral and Verb a couple of times.

- Zander only one he trusts

- Gets muddled over BFG and Alanna.

 

The muddles bit is null, could happen to anyone. The only thing standing out is he actually says he's not wasting his vote on Alanna, as others have, I think it would put her to about 3 (maybe 4) votes if he had.

 

P2

- Dice feels snippy and agreesive

- Zero chance he (thane) flips scum

- Likes BFG's entrance

- Scum AJ hard to find

- Doesn't think he is on point as wolf

- Wary of people finding him fully town D1 (TMI), or vote him D1

- VOTES HALLY - for grasping, tunnelling whatever

- Then the AtE

now into D2

- Suggests 2 shots were hero shots, doesn't want them to say but is curious.

- Doesn't see a townie shooting Pral

- About BFG - says that she noticed he has changed the way he plays, sometimes read lists sometimes not. Avoids having the same playstyle

- Reads Town - Zander, AJ. Wants BFG to be town. Tal has him confused and Zander does make sense, have him confused. Dice and Laine and Rand as wolf (there are other reads- but town )

 

His vote on Hally was OMGUS, having read back the AtE didn't seem as bad as when I first read it. Juat fed up with the 20pages of reading, Rereading it I don't think this makes him town. Also the bit about making a point about him changing how he plays...

 

P3

- Pretty sure Rand Laine wolf

- VOTES RAND - This should happen today!

- VOTES ALANNA - 10 mins later after in response to someone

- Thinks Rand lynched the next day

- Fluff

 

I'm getting an impression here that Thane takes what people are saying about other people to decide where to go. In other words, using there reasoning and persuasion to follow on, rather than have ideas himself. He did vote Alanna, was 4th on her vote.

 

P4

-VOTES RAND

- Still not seeing Dice as town

- Shad's kill made sense, other than him being town, wolves PR hunting

- If not Rand or Verb, then look at Dice.

- When Verb asked if Rand would do what he did with the Cloudflare - Thane answers He'd try anything if it stopped him from getting lynched if wolf.

- To BFGs claim "if a wolf would claim Doc right now and I'd be doc, I wouldn't cc, so I wouldn't be targeted.

- When asked about Verb - case against him was pretty convincing, but likes his posts, on the other hand I know he could talk his way out of anything.

- Thinks is Verb flips town we need to lynch AJ

 

P5&6

- Him town and BFG town as uncc'd doc, Zander because he thinks he would be different as wolf.

- AJ so far doing ok

- Tal - sees what Zander is saying

- Verb 100% wolf for him

- No idea on dice

- thinks AJ/Verb Town wolf Zander and Tal

- Zander/Tal unlikely due to Zander going after her

- dice going after Laine early - perhaps distancing, now not really involved, Laine goes down and dice cleared for rest of game

- AJ/Zander - pretty sure town first half of game up until Verb's town flip

- Doubting AJ's interaction with Verb, Zander posting less.

- Zander more gut than anything

- Wants to put Dice town (trusts what BFG is saying) POE Zander/AJ/Talya for lynch ooin that order.

 

Does some flips here, from AJ/Zander town to his top two WTL, Flips on Dice, because he trusts BFG. If thane is wolf he could be wolf with Zander. The way he has thought him town and believed Zander on him saying I'm wolf loud enough and enough times. Then flips that round.

 

Thane - Can you please explain why you now think Dice is town (in your own words - not BFGs)

Why do you think that Zander isn't town anymore (apart from the POE) what makes you think he could be wolf, the same with AJ, and what are your thoughts on me too?

 

I have felt that he doesn't have any of his own thoughts where the alignment of people are except Dice. If Thane is wolf I think that clears Dice. Can't see wolfThane pointing out about Dice and Alanna if they were all on the same team.

 

A break and then AJ

[BFG]

Lol, you've highlighted everything that makes me worry I've miscleared him :/

 

I'll be out most of this evening, but hopefully back for some reading later.

[Talya]

Err...sorry?

[BFG]

Lol, no worries :)

[BFG]

AJ?

[Andrej]

I'm around kinda. Been checking the thread when I get a moment from this morning but I haven't read in depth since I left the other night.

 

All I can really say is that I'm not a wolf here. I understand how the last two lynches look for me since I pretty much drove them but it is what it is. The ones you need to be looking at are those who cast their votes but didn't do much else. I was on the forefront of Laine/Rand/Verb the entire way. Tbh Laine probably doesn't get ran up to hammer range D2 without my involvement, so if you REALLY think I do that as a wolf just to make it harder for me to win or something then idk what to tell you.

 

There's two left and I'm about as confident as I can be that they resolve within Zander, Talya and Thane. I haven't really pieced together which combo yet but if I'm wrong and Dice is a wolf then I'll be a little pissed post game because I hate his play against Laine if they're partners.

 

I think the points about Zander dropping off the last few phases have merit and I really don't like the way him and Talya have been regarding each other while both being on town lynches.

 

Basically I am leaving this up to BFG/Dice because I can't research anymore. Just know you'll have my vote whichever way you go.

[Andrej]

This sort of activity won't help ftr. There's 4 villagers alive - show it.

[Andrej]

[v]Zander[/v]

[BFG]

Deadline's 11 hours?

[BFG]

for the moment? Zander, then AJ, last Talya.

 

as for dice, i trust your judgement (no pressure )

 

 

 

Outstanding question, why this order?

[BFG]

Good morning :)

[dicetosser1]

good afternoon BFG

 

 

vote Zander

[BFG]

AJ, why Zander? On your read through you seemed to consistently find Talya and Thane looking worse?

[BFG]

(Afternoon) Dice :)

 

Fwiw I think Sanders the way to go, but the apparent consensus concerns me

[BFG]

*Zander

[dicetosser1]

i am considering that fact BFG

 

 

can always unvote if need be

[BFG]

Thane?

[Thane Vakarian]

Zander seems a good way to go, and he's in the POE of a lot of players.

 

If he isn't, then it's game over. And there's only one way to be sure

 

[v] Zander [/v]

[Talya]

More than happy to go here.

 

I still have to look over AJ. But this is my stronger read.

 

Are you happy for me to hammer, or we can wait to see if he comes in?

[BFG]

I'd like Thane to explain why his reads have changed?

[dicetosser1]

unvote

 

 

no hammer yet

[Talya]

I thought it was AJ who changed his read. Thane had it as Zander when I was rereading him. Or do you mean before that. Because he di have him as town until Verbs flip.

 

I would also like to know if he still agrees with Zander about me.

[Thane Vakarian]

remember me saying that i was missing the town leader Laine this game and she flipped wolf? I get the same feeling for Zander, especially after the Verb flip. I can't shake the feeling, so i'll go with it.