[Advanced] Star Wars Mafia

[Eldrick4221]

Talya is also in my WTL, but not as much as the others.

[Sili Quirrels]

Wombo's game this day has been horrible IMO

 

First they pushed for Heart lynch, admitting that they weren't reading what she has to say and just bulldozing for her death.

 

Then, after the doc claim, they still want her dead. Even if she is mafia, it should be decided tonight. I don't think she is, and niether so many other people. Your tunneling is not changing my opinion on you.

 

And then the commuter claim. Highly suspicious to claim something that can't be proven, except by kill or cop view.

 

At no point in this game has Wombo been better than null to me. They have been varying degrees of scummy, and are stinking of it right now.

 

I still believe that there is mafia between Heart and Wombo, because of Leelou's list. This is the way to go today. If they aren't mafia, Heart will be resolved tonight anyway.

 

I'm also happy with lynching notbob. The N2 kill is unexplained, unless Dice wants to claim it.

i don't think the tunneling is unwarranted actually. the claimed doc variant is uncommon, and the decision not to protect darthe n1 is bad, and heart's recent posting isn't good either imo.

 

i agree that the commuter role would be convenient for a scum claim, but with han solo it makes a lot of sense, and we know it couldn't be darthe's role because darthe was nkd.

[Eldrick4221]

I really don't get it.

I understand you think heart is mafia. And you want 4/4 but sili is safer imo.

 

By killing sili we confirm yates

Zander views heart. If he dies she is mafia.

If she lives and zander lives, we know hearts alignment.

 

So by going sili we

Clear or condemn 2 players

We know yates alignment

we know heart alignment

We know dice align

We know my alignment

 

Poe is aj, tayla, Eld and town wins

 

 

 

Lynching heart

Possibly ly win game.

Possibly kills doc and cop on same day

Does not give us info on mason claims

Makes aj look suspicious and more tinfoils, so we are back to where we started today with a BIGGE poe.

 

How is heart more beneficial? The other way yields better results. I just don't get it.

 

[unvote]

I want to hear why heart is a better lynch.

Through sili we get hearts, and yates alignment, while possibly keeping doc, and cop.

 

 

I am trying to come around on heart 1st but it is -EV compared to sili..... don't don't get it.... ugh sorry if I am makin this more difficult but weigh the pros and cons.

Heart wins or kills 2 prs

Sili confirms 2 people and win us the game still? Or am I looking at this wrong.

 

This is mainly to dice, but would love to hear other input.

This is a good argument. The problem is I don't see them claiming masons if one is scum and the other isn't. I also don't see them both being scum.

 

I agree that we shouldn't lynch Heart. But I don't like the idea of lynching Sili or Yates either.

 

What do you feel about Wombo?

[Sili Quirrels]

i killed no one eldrick

 

Sili who do you think?

 

Who do I WTL, or what do I think?

[Eldrick4221]

 

Wombo's game this day has been horrible IMO

 

First they pushed for Heart lynch, admitting that they weren't reading what she has to say and just bulldozing for her death.

 

Then, after the doc claim, they still want her dead. Even if she is mafia, it should be decided tonight. I don't think she is, and niether so many other people. Your tunneling is not changing my opinion on you.

 

And then the commuter claim. Highly suspicious to claim something that can't be proven, except by kill or cop view.

 

At no point in this game has Wombo been better than null to me. They have been varying degrees of scummy, and are stinking of it right now.

 

I still believe that there is mafia between Heart and Wombo, because of Leelou's list. This is the way to go today. If they aren't mafia, Heart will be resolved tonight anyway.

 

I'm also happy with lynching notbob. The N2 kill is unexplained, unless Dice wants to claim it.

i don't think the tunneling is unwarranted actually. the claimed doc variant is uncommon, and the decision not to protect darthe n1 is bad, and heart's recent posting isn't good either imo.

 

i agree that the commuter role would be convenient for a scum claim, but with han solo it makes a lot of sense, and we know it couldn't be darthe's role because darthe was nkd.

 

Ok. What about Leelou's list? Yates was one of the people defending the idea that Leelou puts a scum buddy in her scum list. What's your say on this?

[Sili Quirrels]

if former, and not heart

 

1. talya - mostly because poe and i can't remember why i thought she was town.

2. eldrick - some sketchiness, but bar is lower. if he is scum he's improved a fair margin.

3. nb - sk equity or wombat

[Sili Quirrels]

 

 

Wombo's game this day has been horrible IMO

 

First they pushed for Heart lynch, admitting that they weren't reading what she has to say and just bulldozing for her death.

 

Then, after the doc claim, they still want her dead. Even if she is mafia, it should be decided tonight. I don't think she is, and niether so many other people. Your tunneling is not changing my opinion on you.

 

And then the commuter claim. Highly suspicious to claim something that can't be proven, except by kill or cop view.

 

At no point in this game has Wombo been better than null to me. They have been varying degrees of scummy, and are stinking of it right now.

 

I still believe that there is mafia between Heart and Wombo, because of Leelou's list. This is the way to go today. If they aren't mafia, Heart will be resolved tonight anyway.

 

I'm also happy with lynching notbob. The N2 kill is unexplained, unless Dice wants to claim it.

i don't think the tunneling is unwarranted actually. the claimed doc variant is uncommon, and the decision not to protect darthe n1 is bad, and heart's recent posting isn't good either imo.

 

i agree that the commuter role would be convenient for a scum claim, but with han solo it makes a lot of sense, and we know it couldn't be darthe's role because darthe was nkd.

 

Ok. What about Leelou's list? Yates was one of the people defending the idea that Leelou puts a scum buddy in her scum list. What's your say on this?

 

 

Seems likely, but then, heart is likely scum so it's confirmation bias. *shrug*

[Eldrick4221]

I'm at the point that the last scum is between Wombo and Heart, and I'd much rather lynch the commuter over the doc.

 

I'll go Notbob for suspected SK. Could see Talya filling that slot too.

[Sili Quirrels]

tomorrow ill do due-diligence on other players. i don't expect to find much, but it might be helpful a small percentage of the time.

 

*yawns loudly*

 

k, goodnight.

[Andrej]

Wombo's game this day has been horrible IMO

 

First they pushed for Heart lynch, admitting that they weren't reading what she has to say and just bulldozing for her death.

 

Then, after the doc claim, they still want her dead. Even if she is mafia, it should be decided tonight. I don't think she is, and niether so many other people. Your tunneling is not changing my opinion on you.

 

And then the commuter claim. Highly suspicious to claim something that can't be proven, except by kill or cop view.

 

At no point in this game has Wombo been better than null to me. They have been varying degrees of scummy, and are stinking of it right now.

 

I still believe that there is mafia between Heart and Wombo, because of Leelou's list. This is the way to go today. If they aren't mafia, Heart will be resolved tonight anyway.

 

I'm also happy with lynching notbob. The N2 kill is unexplained, unless Dice wants to claim it.

How long have you been playing?

[Eldrick4221]

Sili (claim: R2-D2, Mason with Yates, C-3PO)[/size]

—Claimed vanilla town #5, which I took as a possibly serious joke and filed away for the future

—Page 92-93 seemed on the defensive a little more than usual 

—#804 early town list (eldrick, dice, salami, Talya, Zander, seph, shad)—really only comfortable clearing Eldrick dice and Csarmi (no reasons given for anyone)

—#1975 says he doesn’t care about Leelou but Verb says she’s probably town

#2129 End of Day 1—Leelou (GF) lynched <—also when Sili and Yates supposedly found each other

—#2135 wolves probably among Yates, Wombat, Verbal, Clov, Talya, Sooh and Zander; now sees Shad, Seph, Durin and me as clear; sees NotBob as ok, dice and Csarmi are interesting and Eldrick seems villagish+#2145 says that his reads aren’t really worth much anyhow because he was 50 pages behind

—#2209 Now is looking at me and Sooh because of Leelou (contradicts last post’s view of me, but is consistent with Sooh)

—#2395 explaining some reads. Wombo/Zander town; Verbal and Clov are middling; Yates, Talya and Sooh are scummy.

—I noted that on page 144 he seemed to be dodging a bit, and then at #2906 gave thoughts on Sooh after some prodding

#2646 End of Night 1—Clov (VT) and Durin (unknown) killed

—#2923 says his reads were a lot like Leelou’s except Yates (dark green town on Leelou’s), Verbal (light green town on Leelou’s) and Sooh (light green town on Leelou’s) and also says it’s poetic given their characters

—Gradually started zooming in on Sooh, liked Csarmi and dice in various posts

—#3230 says “two down, three to go” and four mafia was the generally accepted thought at the time

—#3235 comes in again only to argue why he should not be orange

~Apparently I was taking way less carful notes or just didn’t notice as much by him after this point~

#3811 End of Day 2—Therbal (RB) lynched

#4298 End of Night 2—Shad (VT) died, Seph (Phoenix) died first time

#5179 End of Day 3—Sooh (Janitor) lynched

#5372 End of Night 3—Alanna (Cop) died

—early 280s (forgot to note the exact post) claimed Masons with Yates. In #5705 he said they were masoned N1

 

Questioning him more now. 

Recap: I’ve felt most of the game like he wasn’t been fully present, but had him leaning town as I had no major reason to dislike him and other people were giving me more reasons. Had him as slightly better in the light of the dead on page 229 (mixed reads here too).

Currently: He’s still one of the players I am less confident about. 

And I agree with the other observations that it is odd to put your partner in your scum reads, but I’m setting that aside for the moment.  

 

 

Referencing underlined.

This is an interesting observation, given the information we have now. It's interesting that the differences are ONLY scum and his mason buddy.

 

@ Sili: What was the poetry you were mentioning? That's the correlation between The Emporer and R2D2? I actually don't know the whole series.

[Eldrick4221]

 

Wombo's game this day has been horrible IMO

 

First they pushed for Heart lynch, admitting that they weren't reading what she has to say and just bulldozing for her death.

 

Then, after the doc claim, they still want her dead. Even if she is mafia, it should be decided tonight. I don't think she is, and niether so many other people. Your tunneling is not changing my opinion on you.

 

And then the commuter claim. Highly suspicious to claim something that can't be proven, except by kill or cop view.

 

At no point in this game has Wombo been better than null to me. They have been varying degrees of scummy, and are stinking of it right now.

 

I still believe that there is mafia between Heart and Wombo, because of Leelou's list. This is the way to go today. If they aren't mafia, Heart will be resolved tonight anyway.

 

I'm also happy with lynching notbob. The N2 kill is unexplained, unless Dice wants to claim it.

How long have you been playing?

 

Why?

 

I think added up I've played for about 6 months-1 year total, but there was a large gap between my earlier playing and when I started up here #ArthurianMafia. I actually don't remember how long I played before I quit.

[dicetosser1]

Eldrick im chewbacca

 

 

 

 

i killed no one eldrick

 

Sili who do you think?

 

Who do I WTL, or what do I think?

 

 

i was after both.

 

Saw your answer  talya claimed Treestump if that is what you were thinking of.

 

so sili you would not vote no lynch?

[Andrej]

Actually I'll just say what I want to.

 

Eldrick, if you really think my slot is a wolf then you suck.

 

I could go on and explain why, but I won't. If you need reassuring look at D3 when you stuck your foot in your mouth and people wanted to kill you; instead we continued pushing Sooh.

[Eldrick4221]

Actually I'll just say what I want to.

 

Eldrick, if you really think my slot is a wolf then you suck.

 

I could go on and explain why, but I won't. If you need reassuring look at D3 when you stuck your foot in your mouth and people wanted to kill you; instead we continued pushing Sooh.

Now that.

 

That is a really good point.

 

You would have let my lynch go through if you were wolf. I didn't think about it.

Grr. I was so sure too.

 

Well, [unvote]

 

I'm still not happy with lynching Heart. I have time to figure out where I want to vote.

I don't think it's Yates and Sili, but if it's one, it's most likely both.

 

Blah. I guess I'll see what develops from here.

[Eldrick4221]

Tinfoil here.

 

Scum team: Leelou, Therbal, Sooh, Sili, Yates

 

Yates and Verb said what they did to make it look like my idea had credibility, when Leelou didn't have any teammates in her scum list at all.

 

I bought it hook, line and sinker, and therefore it stuck with me all game.

[Eldrick4221]

Blah. I am talking myself into going with the Sili train.

 

(hehe. Sili train)

 

I won't vote yet. I still want the day to develop more. No need to rush this, but it's back on the table for me.

[Hallia]

OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT:

 

Sili(1): Zander

Heart(2): Sili, WomboCombo

WomboCombo(1): AielHeart

No Lynch(1): Dice

 

 

Not Voting: Talya, Yates, Csarmi, NotBob, Seph, Eldrick

 

With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch.  A deadline has been set for Monday, June 29th at 7pm PST.

[Sili Quirrels]

Tinfoil here.

 

Scum team: Leelou, Therbal, Sooh, Sili, Yates

 

Yates and Verb said what they did to make it look like my idea had credibility, when Leelou didn't have any teammates in her scum list at all.

 

I bought it hook, line and sinker, and therefore it stuck with me all game.

 

 

Blah. I am talking myself into going with the Sili train.

 

(hehe. Sili train)

 

I won't vote yet. I still want the day to develop more. No need to rush this, but it's back on the table for me.

 

Seriously I don't think verbal's line means anything one way or another.

 

It's unlikely leelou, as a godfather, wasn't distancing, but you should make decisions based on actual content.

 

Did you read my mqs about why I am always a villager here?

 

 

Leelous reads are basically my reads yates and verbal and sooh excepted. Kind of eerie consoderong our respectove characters. Poetic actually.

 

I don't remember, but it was 2:48am. I was drunk and tired, and I probably conflated the first and third movies, thinking the info r2d2 brought the rebels was an elaborate scheme by the emperor.

[dicetosser1]

Hally!!  Countdown timer PLEASE!!!!

 

 

that timeframe means nothing to me! 

[Sili Quirrels]

Eldrick im chewbacca

 

 

 

 

i killed no one eldrick

 

Sili who do you think?

 

Who do I WTL, or what do I think?

 

 

i was after both.

 

Saw your answer  talya claimed Treestump if that is what you were thinking of.

 

so sili you would not vote no lynch?

I would not vote no lynch unless it was self-preservation. I don't enjoy it, yet it's still better than lynching a mason.

[Sili Quirrels]

Hally!!  Countdown timer PLEASE!!!!

 

 

that timeframe means nothing to me! 

41 hours and 1 minute.

[Zander?]

Blah. I am talking myself into going with the Sili train.

 

(hehe. Sili train)

 

I won't vote yet. I still want the day to develop more. No need to rush this, but it's back on the table for me.

 

yes.  the trains makes the MOST sense in the event Heart is telling the truth!!!  it clears up Silis, Yates and Heart.  and sili/yates wolf flip is GG.  and on the off chance its not,  Yates is cleared and Heart is confirmed. narrows down the SK pool if there is even one!!!

[dicetosser1]

ty sili

[Zander?]

 

Sili, I know this has been answered, but I just want it one more time here:

 

According to my notes, Yates was on your scum list well after N1 when you found each other. Why?

 

to dodge the nk.

 

 

 

are you serious....people SEE THIS!!!!

 

it's more complicated than that, but ya...

 

he realizes the slip and responds with THIS???!!  he tries to follow up without following up!!!

 

 

 

Tinfoil here.

 

Scum team: Leelou, Therbal, Sooh, Sili, Yates

 

Yates and Verb said what they did to make it look like my idea had credibility, when Leelou didn't have any teammates in her scum list at all.

 

I bought it hook, line and sinker, and therefore it stuck with me all game.

 

 

Blah. I am talking myself into going with the Sili train.

 

(hehe. Sili train)

 

I won't vote yet. I still want the day to develop more. No need to rush this, but it's back on the table for me.

 

Seriously I don't think verbal's line means anything one way or another.

 

It's unlikely leelou, as a godfather, wasn't distancing, but you should make decisions based on actual content.

 

Did you read my mqs about why I am always a villager here?

 

 

Leelous reads are basically my reads yates and verbal and sooh excepted. Kind of eerie consoderong our respectove characters. Poetic actually.

 

I don't remember, but it was 2:48am. I was drunk and tired, and I probably conflated the first and third movies, thinking the info r2d2 brought the rebels was an elaborate scheme by the emperor.

 

 

Horrible.  I DONTSEE WHY PEOPLE AREN'T SEEING THIS FOR WHAT IT IS!!!!

 

 

@ Heart- Im posting this but I am 100% serious!!!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

@Dice No lynch is NOT the way to go it gives us nothing and we lose doc or cop for sure.  NOT THE BEST PLAY FOR TOWN.  We need the most amount of INFO as POSSIBLE!!!