[Advanced] Star Wars Mafia

[Clovdyx]

 

 

Sooh could prob move into that second list.

 

Does the order matter?  Groups look mostly good (flip Zander and Sooh IMO), but I don't see how you can justify Sooh or Sili - or me, for that case - over Seph or probably Shad.  

 

 

 

I c wut u did thar

 

 

Thank god.  I was worried the "let our powers combine" thing would be lost over a magic ring that FREAKING SHOOTS FIRE.

[鲍勃不是我的名字]

 

 

 

Different game.  But I lulz.  Pretty sure I was scum that game so yeah...hang your hat there.

 

 

...Yes....that's the point I'm making.

 

 

...and its not lost on me that now you're pushing the same tactics...you as scum using my previous tactics when I was scum...you're better than this...but lulz.

 

 

...No?  I'm pointing out that you're pointing fingers out after people who didn't contribute to the lynch immediately after you finished a game where you did EXACTLY the same thing.  

 

I don't care if you don't vote at all.  I do care that you sat by and let the events unfold as if the outcome meant nothing to you.

 

 

The outcome meant nothing to me.  If I was scum I would have put a vote on Leelou's competing train.  Good luck with this.  

[WWWwombat]

 

Why is Elder Scrolls deer hunting so damn fun?

It isn't until you mod the crap out of bow hunting

 

 

Idk, you just gotta sneak and then not lose sight.  Or level/gear up a ton.  But by that point you can prob just incinerate them or chase them down while wearing 200 lbs. of heavy armor.

[WWWwombat]

FTR, NotBob is still slight town imo.

[Clovdyx]

The outcome meant nothing to me.  If I was scum I would have put a vote on Leelou's competing train.  Good luck with this.  

 

 

Notbob claims Independent ITT?

[鲍勃不是我的名字]

 

The outcome meant nothing to me.  If I was scum I would have put a vote on Leelou's competing train.  Good luck with this.  

 

 

Notbob claims Independent ITT?

 

 

You cared more about the outcome...you had to protect your GF.  

[Clovdyx]

I cared about lynching mafia.  And yes, I failed to do that.  I have no problems admitting that the person I was going for is very unlikely to be mafia - it happens.  Being wrong is not scummy, but please, keep working that angle.  

[Andrej]

Christ that last bit was not well explained.

 

In the context of the game near EoD, especially when coupled with Leelou's development (or lack thereof) on AH you can see that Leelou thought AH was a potential lynch and thought that she was not.  Leelou began quickly tying other players to AH and sussing and yet avoided actually pursuing AH.  That heavily increases the chances of AH as Leelou's teammate.

 

Better.

 

If this is legit that's some sharp observation.

 

I'm back now and gonna power through some more reading - but I'll proceed with this in mind.

[鲍勃不是我的名字]

I cared about lynching mafia.  And yes, I failed to do that.  I have no problems admitting that the person I was going for is very unlikely to be mafia - it happens.  Being wrong is not scummy, but please, keep working that angle.  

 

Seems you were incentivized...I stayed out cause I had admittedly had no clue between the two...it was hybrid hammer and figured it would sort itself out...

 

You and Sili joined your princess on the Laine train...have to think one of you wanted to play shining knight.

[Clovdyx]

 

I cared about lynching mafia.  And yes, I failed to do that.  I have no problems admitting that the person I was going for is very unlikely to be mafia - it happens.  Being wrong is not scummy, but please, keep working that angle.  

 

Seems you were incentivized...I stayed out cause I had admittedly had no clue between the two...it was hybrid hammer and figured it would sort itself out...

 

You and Sili joined your princess on the Laine train...have to think one of you wanted to play shining knight.

 

 

Go read the thread again.

[Darthe]

 

Christ that last bit was not well explained.

 

In the context of the game near EoD, especially when coupled with Leelou's development (or lack thereof) on AH you can see that Leelou thought AH was a potential lynch and thought that she was not.  Leelou began quickly tying other players to AH and sussing and yet avoided actually pursuing AH.  That heavily increases the chances of AH as Leelou's teammate.

 

Better.

 

If this is legit that's some sharp observation.

 

I'm back now and gonna power through some more reading - but I'll proceed with this in mind.

 

Clov has decent counterpoints so I'd be interested in seeing both contested on your reread.

[Darthe]

@Notbob you can't show up to play 126 pages in and expect to have credibility.  

 

Start by showing me you're town and doing things like giving reads lists etc and then you can try to start a fight between you and clov.  ATM I'd prefer to lynch you and reassess with your flip over actually reading your argument.

[Andrej]

 

 

Christ that last bit was not well explained.

 

In the context of the game near EoD, especially when coupled with Leelou's development (or lack thereof) on AH you can see that Leelou thought AH was a potential lynch and thought that she was not.  Leelou began quickly tying other players to AH and sussing and yet avoided actually pursuing AH.  That heavily increases the chances of AH as Leelou's teammate.

 

Better.

 

If this is legit that's some sharp observation.

 

I'm back now and gonna power through some more reading - but I'll proceed with this in mind.

 

Clov has decent counterpoints so I'd be interested in seeing both contested on your reread.

 

I agree, actually. I just got current from my last post before this one and his points are decent. I'll keep them in mind - I still have the other tab open from the page I stopped at and I'm gonna continuing pressing in a few.

 

Not a fan of NotBob's defense here, but like I said earlier I'll likely be deferring to Wombat for the read there.

[Clovdyx]

Hey, AJ, can you clear something up for me?

 

 

 

 

Leelou, on 18 Jun 2015 - 05:16 AM, said:

Darthe - starting to trend #weirder

Dice - how's the tunnel? 

Eldrick - #trendingtownie

Heart - I see she never showed up 18 hours later like she said she was going to. 

Sooh - I'd like to see her actively interact with people. Lists are good, interaction is better. 

Zander - hi! 

 

Vote: Heart

 

Side note: I won't really be that active today. I'm going to be away from my desk most of the day and there will be 2 meetings will champagne. 

 

This is relevant because it shows Leelou's awareness of the thread shift. She got the stink eye for going at Sooh, and when Sooh is getting a more positive read from other players she changes to AH. Once again - probably clearing for Sooh and good looking for AH.

 

 

 

I agree that it's a good look for Heart, but I really don't get how it clears Sooh.  Is it just kind of an..."availability"...thing if you will?  

[Sili Quirrels]

I don't think I liked sooh's responses to leelou either, which is to say I'm on the fence.

[alannalynn]

 

 

Darthe, off the top of your head, do you remember what Laine's defense to my claim about the contradiction was?  Regarding her liking Heart's non-existent summary posts?

Very vaguely

 

 

That makes sense, because she really didn't say a damn thing besides "I can't explain it, but I'll try when I'm the computer."  Heart, on the other hand, came in and told me to stop linking the two of them and explained that I was misinterpreting the post - it wasn't about a specific post she (Heart) had written this game, but the general concept of them.

 

Do you really think mafia's going to come in and fight me on mislynching a vanilla, try to get me to avoid linking said mafia to that townie (or that townie to said mafia..), in favor of trying to get a teammate killed?

^^ this

Heart is in the clear for me

[Andrej]

Hey, AJ, can you clear something up for me?

 

 

 

 

Leelou, on 18 Jun 2015 - 05:16 AM, said:

Darthe - starting to trend #weirder

Dice - how's the tunnel? 

Eldrick - #trendingtownie

Heart - I see she never showed up 18 hours later like she said she was going to. 

Sooh - I'd like to see her actively interact with people. Lists are good, interaction is better. 

Zander - hi! 

 

Vote: Heart

 

Side note: I won't really be that active today. I'm going to be away from my desk most of the day and there will be 2 meetings will champagne. 

 

This is relevant because it shows Leelou's awareness of the thread shift. She got the stink eye for going at Sooh, and when Sooh is getting a more positive read from other players she changes to AH. Once again - probably clearing for Sooh and good looking for AH.

 

 

 

I agree that it's a good look for Heart, but I really don't get how it clears Sooh.  Is it just kind of an..."availability"...thing if you will?  

 

What do you mean by availability?

[Darthe]

clov who ever rolls with a claim like this

Leia is a better shot than a stormtrooper (which is saying a lot? jk) and is pretty resourceful *shrug*

 

and then, upon realiizing their vote switch wasn't counted nonchalantly rolls with the even train they were on like this

No I never unvoted--my mistake but I'll roll with it now--as I said, the dice lynch wasn't going anywhere. Did you actually read that post?

 

unless they know the person is a wolf and don't want to get sussed for unvoting from a wolf lynch near EoD?

[alannalynn]

There were several posts iirc of Heart's that she posted to clear up Clov's confusion. I don't see mafia both trying to diffuse a townie lynch train AND staying on a scum partners.

[alannalynn]

Some of Heart's posts

Kind of skimmed since the last VC just to see where we're at and I think this is it?

Seph(1): NotBob
Durin(2): Dice, Csarmi
Leelou(2): Aiel Heart, Shad,
Aiel Heart(1): Sili
Wombocombo (1): Leelou
Laine (1): Wombocombo
Sooh (2): Eldrick, Talya
NotBob (2): Clov, Seph
Therbal (1): Durin

 

Is that right? This close to deadline? 

 

It's what three hours away now? 

 

Totally didn't unvote I just realized, but that train wouldn't leave the station at this point. 

Ok with staying on Leelou at the moment.

Am getting kidnapped and probably won't be back before dl hits but will try. 

 

May the force be with us

I don't see why she would leave her vote parked there at this point

 

I normally give summary posts--I remember Laine saying something about them being useful when I'm here

First defense of me

 

 

Also, don't like Heart's vote staying on me like it is.

I don't like how you normally push me early when you are scum. 
 

 

 

I normally give summary posts--I remember Laine saying something about them being useful when I'm here

normally useful but I haven't like them this game. At all

Vote count???

 

 
This is a blatant contradiction of what you said before.  Except when you said it, there hadn't been any.

 

I normally give them and they are normally good and she has said before that she likes them. Stop trying to link us.
 
Also Alanna they'll be better from here on out--I've been rushed.
 
 
Speaking of rush, do we have any idea what the count is?

 

Again, clearing up confusion and pushing Leelous train

 

Look at the wording of that post again--if memory serves it's not referring to a specific one in this game and the wording reflects that

Still clearing up confusion

 

No I never unvoted--my mistake but I'll roll with it now--as I said, the dice lynch wasn't going anywhere. Did you actually read that post?

Now she's rolling with it

 

I'm not really bothered by this progression, but I may be biased lol

[Clovdyx]

 

Hey, AJ, can you clear something up for me?

 

 

 

 

Leelou, on 18 Jun 2015 - 05:16 AM, said:

Darthe - starting to trend #weirder

Dice - how's the tunnel? 

Eldrick - #trendingtownie

Heart - I see she never showed up 18 hours later like she said she was going to. 

Sooh - I'd like to see her actively interact with people. Lists are good, interaction is better. 

Zander - hi! 

 

Vote: Heart

 

Side note: I won't really be that active today. I'm going to be away from my desk most of the day and there will be 2 meetings will champagne. 

 

This is relevant because it shows Leelou's awareness of the thread shift. She got the stink eye for going at Sooh, and when Sooh is getting a more positive read from other players she changes to AH. Once again - probably clearing for Sooh and good looking for AH.

 

 

 

I agree that it's a good look for Heart, but I really don't get how it clears Sooh.  Is it just kind of an..."availability"...thing if you will?  

 

What do you mean by availability?

 

 

Leelou thought people would go for Sooh so she went at her for a bit, and then once it didn't seem like the path of least resistance, she just moved on to somebody easier?

[Darthe]

Some of Heart's posts

Kind of skimmed since the last VC just to see where we're at and I think this is it?

 

Seph(1): NotBob

Durin(2): Dice, Csarmi

Leelou(2): Aiel Heart, Shad,

Aiel Heart(1): Sili

Wombocombo (1): Leelou

Laine (1): Wombocombo

Sooh (2): Eldrick, Talya

NotBob (2): Clov, Seph

Therbal (1): Durin

 

Is that right? This close to deadline? 

 

It's what three hours away now? 

 

Totally didn't unvote I just realized, but that train wouldn't leave the station at this point. 

Ok with staying on Leelou at the moment.

Am getting kidnapped and probably won't be back before dl hits but will try. 

 

May the force be with us

I don't see why she would leave her vote parked there at this point

 

I normally give summary posts--I remember Laine saying something about them being useful when I'm here

First defense of me

 

 

Also, don't like Heart's vote staying on me like it is.

I don't like how you normally push me early when you are scum. 

 

 

 

I normally give summary posts--I remember Laine saying something about them being useful when I'm here

normally useful but I haven't like them this game. At all

 

Vote count???

 

 

This is a blatant contradiction of what you said before.  Except when you said it, there hadn't been any.

 

I normally give them and they are normally good and she has said before that she likes them. Stop trying to link us.

 

Also Alanna they'll be better from here on out--I've been rushed.

 

 

Speaking of rush, do we have any idea what the count is?

 

Again, clearing up confusion and pushing Leelous train

 

Look at the wording of that post again--if memory serves it's not referring to a specific one in this game and the wording reflects that

Still clearing up confusion

 

No I never unvoted--my mistake but I'll roll with it now--as I said, the dice lynch wasn't going anywhere. Did you actually read that post?

Now she's rolling with it

 

I'm not really bothered by this progression, but I may be biased lol

i ddnt realize the first one correlates to the last quote

[Andrej]

Leelou thought people would go for Sooh so she went at her for a bit, and then once it didn't seem like the path of least resistance, she just moved on to somebody easier?

 

That's probably a better way of putting it - so yes.

 

Looking at Leelou early on her WTL group was Sooh, AH and Seph. I'm leaning more towards thinking she was targeting LHF early on and once Sooh didn't pan out she went for the next easiest target in AH for inactivity reasons. She continued this trend later on when she began to characterize my absence as something alignment indicative.

[Clovdyx]

clov who ever rolls with a claim like this

Leia is a better shot than a stormtrooper (which is saying a lot? jk) and is pretty resourceful *shrug*

 

and then, upon realiizing their vote switch wasn't counted nonchalantly rolls with the even train they were on like this

No I never unvoted--my mistake but I'll roll with it now--as I said, the dice lynch wasn't going anywhere. Did you actually read that post?

 

unless they know the person is a wolf and don't want to get sussed for unvoting from a wolf lynch near EoD?

 

TBH I took the first post as a joke.  It does like pretty bad in hindsight

 

Still, I'm not sure what option Heart HAD with under ten minutes to go.  She already had established she wasn't going to vote for Laine (see: her handling of me), so I can't really fault her for wanting to keep a vote on somebody that has a shot to be lynched.

[Sili Quirrels]

There were several posts iirc of Heart's that she posted to clear up Clov's confusion. I don't see mafia both trying to diffuse a townie lynch train AND staying on a scum partners.

I did half of that. Do I get any botd? :(