American Gods Mafia [Advanced] - mafia win

[Darthe]

 

<3 cory, gonna try to let ya'll lead this one a bit and see if it pans out

I don't see darthe anywhere near town. I am sure you have played with him more. But the post above bothers me the most. I have never seen town darthe not hit the ground running.

 

Also thanks for the list, I ask because it helps me later to see a progression of your thinking.

Because when I rand wolf I like to very clearly outline that you should all suspect me from the get-go.

 

Yes, quite devious. Bravo for picking up on that sir.

[Darthe]

 

 

Im about to pop out for a few hours but does anyone know when/if Notbob is going to be active? Because at the moment he is an easy mafia kill n1 to deny us info, and if thats the case I'd rather lynch him and get the mafia to make a more difficult decision.

Just quickly read everything to catch up, and I'll have to go back and make reads. This stood out to me though. Why would this be a good lynch? Unless he's scum it's always more beneficial to try to lynch other scum.

Dae post was wolfy but so is this representation of it. This was posted like three posts back and has already been quoted. It's not something you stumbled on and it doesn't show that you've been really engaged.

[Darthe]

Oh and Thane, that is a big ass list for this game atm. How did we all get where we are?

[John Snow]

Seph what I dislike about your post is calling your wagon a legitimate train and saying there must be at least one mafia on it. Seems premature at this point. By that logic either Sili or Wombat are scum and frankly I think it's too early to tell.

 

Statistically, either Seph or one of the three on his train is probs a wolf. 

 

goodmorning BFG

 

So, Mr. Snow.... i don't post enough content? Cool.... does that make me scum? I'd hardly think so. I think we were in games recently where i didn't post a lot either, yet this time i'm scummy for it? FTR,the only real thing i can read in your posts is you complaining about lack of content in posts and that you need to see more. It's D1. I start connecting things after the first flips (basically D2) unless something odd stands out. For the moment, your behaviour is odd to me.... there are other ways to get games going.

 

Seph: as for AJ, he can rock as a wolf. If he's a wolf, and we don't get him early, he'll probably get us in trouble. But if he's town, he's too valuable an asset to get rid of D1. No lynch on AJ D1, that would be a risk we'd need to take.

 

dice: two games at the same time as well? Mixing them up can be quite dangerous indeed. It helps me that i LOOOVVEE Mass Effect, so i put myself in a bit of a Mass Effect mood when reading the thread. I approach this game more neutral, so it's easier to keep them apart.

 

I also really dislike your intro. The only worse intro than yours was NotBobs. You also hadn't posted any thoughts on anything game related at the time of that post. At least you're playing the game now. 

 

 

Thane I am always trying to improve.

If your town thane you have no worries I promise.

I have a plan here thane, and I really hope you are on my side.

 

Could we get a read list from you if possible?

 

This makes me think of EP. And thats NOT a good thing.

 

wheres ure reads list?

 

 

Skimming again Dice?

 

Im about to pop out for a few hours but does anyone know when/if Notbob is going to be active? Because at the moment he is an easy mafia kill n1 to deny us info, and if thats the case I'd rather lynch him and get the mafia to make a more difficult decision.

 

How new is Dae?

 

 

Im about to pop out for a few hours but does anyone know when/if Notbob is going to be active? Because at the moment he is an easy mafia kill n1 to deny us info, and if thats the case I'd rather lynch him and get the mafia to make a more difficult decision.

 

4 realz?

 

 

So you pop in a game that's been running for 36hrs without you.......and this is all you've got to say? And you only pop in once someone goes after you?

[John Snow]

Oh and Thane, that is a big ass list for this game atm. How did we all get where we are?

 

I mean, don't get me wrong, I'd love some reasons. But he only really posted 3 reads the way I read it. He just listed all of the nulls instead of omitting them. The list:

 

 

having a plan can be good or bad. It's a bit early for a solid reads list, Seph. But, i'll work on impressions at this point:

 

town-ish:

Dice

Seph (m. Yates)

Darthe

 

still need to figure out-ish:

Hallia

Sili

Sooh

John Snow

Daetirion

Wombat

AJ

 

NotBob, not posted yet.

 

[鲍勃不是我的名字]

[v]Dae[/v]

 

You got some explaining to do.

 

NotBob - now that you're here though, read up and give some thoughts?

 

You found scum in your vote.  

 

Vote Dae

[鲍勃不是我的名字]

 

Seph what I dislike about your post is calling your wagon a legitimate train and saying there must be at least one mafia on it. Seems premature at this point. By that logic either Sili or Wombat are scum and frankly I think it's too early to tell.

 

Statistically, either Seph or one of the three on his train is probs a wolf. 

 

goodmorning BFG

 

So, Mr. Snow.... i don't post enough content? Cool.... does that make me scum? I'd hardly think so. I think we were in games recently where i didn't post a lot either, yet this time i'm scummy for it? FTR,the only real thing i can read in your posts is you complaining about lack of content in posts and that you need to see more. It's D1. I start connecting things after the first flips (basically D2) unless something odd stands out. For the moment, your behaviour is odd to me.... there are other ways to get games going.

 

Seph: as for AJ, he can rock as a wolf. If he's a wolf, and we don't get him early, he'll probably get us in trouble. But if he's town, he's too valuable an asset to get rid of D1. No lynch on AJ D1, that would be a risk we'd need to take.

 

dice: two games at the same time as well? Mixing them up can be quite dangerous indeed. It helps me that i LOOOVVEE Mass Effect, so i put myself in a bit of a Mass Effect mood when reading the thread. I approach this game more neutral, so it's easier to keep them apart.

 

I also really dislike your intro. The only worse intro than yours was NotBobs. You also hadn't posted any thoughts on anything game related at the time of that post. At least you're playing the game now. 

 

 

Thane I am always trying to improve.

If your town thane you have no worries I promise.

I have a plan here thane, and I really hope you are on my side.

 

Could we get a read list from you if possible?

 

This makes me think of EP. And thats NOT a good thing.

 

wheres ure reads list?

 

 

Skimming again Dice?

 

Im about to pop out for a few hours but does anyone know when/if Notbob is going to be active? Because at the moment he is an easy mafia kill n1 to deny us info, and if thats the case I'd rather lynch him and get the mafia to make a more difficult decision.

 

How new is Dae?

 

 

Im about to pop out for a few hours but does anyone know when/if Notbob is going to be active? Because at the moment he is an easy mafia kill n1 to deny us info, and if thats the case I'd rather lynch him and get the mafia to make a more difficult decision.

 

4 realz?

 

 

So you pop in a game that's been running for 36hrs without you.......and this is all you've got to say? And you only pop in once someone goes after you?

 

 

Yes, I was just shocked the guy outed himself.  FTR...I posted once I saw the game had started...you want to fault me for that...go for it.

[WWWwombat]

 

 

Blót: Seph

I hate when people just drop a vote... wombat why are you voting me?

John snow I am working on my game constantly. There certain people I like to watch closely.

It not only helps me improve my game, but helps me read them better.

I promise you won't have any doubts soon.

 

I didn't like your intro.  Felt forced.

I hate hate hate this answer, I used something similar when I voted ep in darthes game when I was mafia. These answers seem fake. They are easy to use by mafia, and I think they are used more so as mafia than town. It lacked conviction, I don't feel like wombat Isn't meaning what he says.

I understand you want a reaction, but at least have a good reason to cast suspicion.

  

don't think I've ever seen John Snow tryhard like this before.  Is it town or scum?

  

Seph and Dice both look kinda bad to me.  John Snow is raising my hackles but I can't in good conscience lynch someone D1 for trying too hard.

Looks like you answered yourself here. Seems like you think he isn't town from these posts.

 

The I can't lynch someone for tryharding is really bugging me there. John isn't spouting nonsense, his reads make sense, and seems to be approaching the game from a town perspective.

[v] Wombat [/v]

 

 

 

Your intro question to John Snow was awkward. Sili went over it already.  I'm not going to provide a detailed explanation of something that has already been explained like that.

 

I didn't answer myself at all.  John is making me uncomfortable.  Hence the hackles.  But I'm not ready to call him scum for it.  And just because he makes sense doesn't mean he's town.

[WWWwombat]

 

 

Dice, is stupid in your town or mafia meta?

AJ take a look at that response. Thats not a standard sort of answer to that sort of thing. Thats pure honesty tone wise. NOT something Mafia posts.

I will agree that I thought the response was genuine, but that's not really the issue I have here. What I disliked was you saying that you left the mistake intentionally to see how Snow responded to it. That's not something I see you doing. Part of what I consider your town game is your bluntness. You're not the type to try tricky phrasing or whatever to get reactions.

 

 

Is it something you see him doing as scum though?

[WWWwombat]

 

 

 

Dice, is stupid in your town or mafia meta?

AJ take a look at that response. Thats not a standard sort of answer to that sort of thing. Thats pure honesty tone wise. NOT something Mafia posts.

I will agree that I thought the response was genuine, but that's not really the issue I have here. What I disliked was you saying that you left the mistake intentionally to see how Snow responded to it. That's not something I see you doing. Part of what I consider your town game is your bluntness. You're not the type to try tricky phrasing or whatever to get reactions.

 

 

Well I did it.  I wouldnt say there was tricky phrasing or anything. I simply didnt recant what was a fairly straightforward post.

 

anyways moving on now

 

 

I don't see the point of the reaction test.  Your post was obviously erroneous.  How would scum have reacted to it differently?

[WWWwombat]

You and aj usually read each other well, so I am a bit worried here.

 

Why?  Maybe one of them is right.  Maybe both.

[WWWwombat]

 

<3 cory, gonna try to let ya'll lead this one a bit and see if it pans out

I don't see darthe anywhere near town. I am sure you have played with him more. But the post above bothers me the most. I have never seen town darthe not hit the ground running.

 

Also thanks for the list, I ask because it helps me later to see a progression of your thinking.

 

 

Meh.  Darthe seems slightly townish to me.

[WWWwombat]

 

 

Im about to pop out for a few hours but does anyone know when/if Notbob is going to be active? Because at the moment he is an easy mafia kill n1 to deny us info, and if thats the case I'd rather lynch him and get the mafia to make a more difficult decision.

Just quickly read everything to catch up, and I'll have to go back and make reads. This stood out to me though. Why would this be a good lynch? Unless he's scum it's always more beneficial to try to lynch other scum.

Dae post was wolfy but so is this representation of it. This was posted like three posts back and has already been quoted. It's not something you stumbled on and it doesn't show that you've been really engaged.

 

 

She might have stumbled on it while not being engaged.  Regardless, I agree that the reaction to it is scummy.

[Darthe]

Not Bob had not voted me and is pushing a scum slip. Does not bode well.

 

I'm getting my hair cut right now.

 

 

Womby what seems townie about me and why are you not say that to seph instead of a no substance post disagreeing?

[Darthe]

 

 

 

 

Im about to pop out for a few hours but does anyone know when/if Notbob is going to be active? Because at the moment he is an easy mafia kill n1 to deny us info, and if thats the case I'd rather lynch him and get the mafia to make a more difficult decision.

Just quickly read everything to catch up, and I'll have to go back and make reads. This stood out to me though. Why would this be a good lynch? Unless he's scum it's always more beneficial to try to lynch other scum.

Dae post was wolfy but so is this representation of it. This was posted like three posts back and has already been quoted. It's not something you stumbled on and it doesn't show that you've been really engaged.

She might have stumbled on it while not being engaged. Regardless, I agree that the reaction to it is scummy.

Stumbled onto what at the time would have basically been the bottom of the last page without covering anything before it?

[seph]

 

 

<3 cory, gonna try to let ya'll lead this one a bit and see if it pans out

I don't see darthe anywhere near town. I am sure you have played with him more. But the post above bothers me the most. I have never seen town darthe not hit the ground running.

Also thanks for the list, I ask because it helps me later to see a progression of your thinking.

Because when I rand wolf I like to very clearly outline that you should all suspect me from the get-go.

Yes, quite devious. Bravo for picking up on that sir.

The last part just makes me more suspicious here darthe.

You are playing a entirely different game than I have ever seen you play. You are being less pushy, and sitting back.

[WWWwombat]

 

Seph what I dislike about your post is calling your wagon a legitimate train and saying there must be at least one mafia on it. Seems premature at this point. By that logic either Sili or Wombat are scum and frankly I think it's too early to tell.

 

Statistically, either Seph or one of the three on his train is probs a wolf. 

 

goodmorning BFG

 

So, Mr. Snow.... i don't post enough content? Cool.... does that make me scum? I'd hardly think so. I think we were in games recently where i didn't post a lot either, yet this time i'm scummy for it? FTR,the only real thing i can read in your posts is you complaining about lack of content in posts and that you need to see more. It's D1. I start connecting things after the first flips (basically D2) unless something odd stands out. For the moment, your behaviour is odd to me.... there are other ways to get games going.

 

Seph: as for AJ, he can rock as a wolf. If he's a wolf, and we don't get him early, he'll probably get us in trouble. But if he's town, he's too valuable an asset to get rid of D1. No lynch on AJ D1, that would be a risk we'd need to take.

 

dice: two games at the same time as well? Mixing them up can be quite dangerous indeed. It helps me that i LOOOVVEE Mass Effect, so i put myself in a bit of a Mass Effect mood when reading the thread. I approach this game more neutral, so it's easier to keep them apart.

 

I also really dislike your intro. The only worse intro than yours was NotBobs. You also hadn't posted any thoughts on anything game related at the time of that post. At least you're playing the game now. 

 

 

Thane I am always trying to improve.

If your town thane you have no worries I promise.

I have a plan here thane, and I really hope you are on my side.

 

Could we get a read list from you if possible?

 

This makes me think of EP. And thats NOT a good thing.

 

wheres ure reads list?

 

 

Skimming again Dice?

 

Im about to pop out for a few hours but does anyone know when/if Notbob is going to be active? Because at the moment he is an easy mafia kill n1 to deny us info, and if thats the case I'd rather lynch him and get the mafia to make a more difficult decision.

 

How new is Dae?

 

 

Im about to pop out for a few hours but does anyone know when/if Notbob is going to be active? Because at the moment he is an easy mafia kill n1 to deny us info, and if thats the case I'd rather lynch him and get the mafia to make a more difficult decision.

 

4 realz?

 

 

So you pop in a game that's been running for 36hrs without you.......and this is all you've got to say? And you only pop in once someone goes after you?

 

 

 

1.  So?  Statistically, you can pick 4 players arbitrarily and 1 of them is likely to be a wolf.

 

2.  Dae is not new, but old.  No info kills were a pretty big thing back when he played, so I can see that part of his post.  Even accepting the premise, I don't agree with that being a good reason to lynch NotBob, but I also don't see it as damning.

 

3.  Seems like standard NotBob to me.

[Darthe]

The players of this game are all attempting to stretch my suspension of disbelief

[BFG]

VC 1.9]

 

Seph (3/7): Sili, Wombat, Darthe

Dice (1/7): John Snow

Andrej (1/7): Dicetosser1

Wombat (1/7): Seph

Dae (2/7): AJ, NB

 

Not Voting (4): Hallia, Thane, Sooh, Dae

 

]With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.  

A deadline has been set!

 

Please note that this is on SUNDAY!

 

 

 

 

 

 

[WWWwombat]

Not Bob had not voted me and is pushing a scum slip. Does not bode well.

 

I'm getting my hair cut right now.

 

 

Womby what seems townie about me and why are you not say that to seph instead of a no substance post disagreeing?

 

I don't think your sitting back means much of anything.  I haven't played with you (or anyone) much lately, but in my experience, your WiM varies and even when it's high can take varying forms.  I was disagreeing with seph but didn't really feel like going into it as you are basically a town lean for me atm on tone and your n0 peek thing.

[WWWwombat]

 

 

 

 

Im about to pop out for a few hours but does anyone know when/if Notbob is going to be active? Because at the moment he is an easy mafia kill n1 to deny us info, and if thats the case I'd rather lynch him and get the mafia to make a more difficult decision.

Just quickly read everything to catch up, and I'll have to go back and make reads. This stood out to me though. Why would this be a good lynch? Unless he's scum it's always more beneficial to try to lynch other scum.

Dae post was wolfy but so is this representation of it. This was posted like three posts back and has already been quoted. It's not something you stumbled on and it doesn't show that you've been really engaged.

She might have stumbled on it while not being engaged. Regardless, I agree that the reaction to it is scummy.

Stumbled onto what at the time would have basically been the bottom of the last page without covering anything before it?

 

 

Think about it this way.  A wolf is skimming the thread for things to find wolfy.  The wolf stumbles upon a post that she sees as very wolfy and immediately flags it or quotes it so as to begin the process of fabricating one of those oh so difficult to acquire fake wolf reads.  Basically, I can see Sooh's reaction as organic, but potentially organically wolfy.

[WWWwombat]

With deadline on Sunday morning, we need to do some work today.  Dae is a stupid lynch.  His post was by no means a scum claim and his lynch gains us nothing if he flips town.  Right now, my top 4 lynch candidates are Seph, AJ, Dice, and Sooh.  In particular, I don't see the way Dice and AJ interacted as coming from V/V or W/W.  It reads like they were feeling each other out a bit but then Dice brought some OMGUS to the table, which is a bit scummy in this situation imo.  Then AJ backed off, which is also kinda scummy imo.  I don't see them doing such inept distancing as scummates, but I don't get a V/V feel from it either.

[WWWwombat]

But I also don't really like to hang my hat D1 on associative reads either.

[Darthe]

Okay I can follow all of that wombat but I don't agree on Sooh. It's probably not a big deal though.

 

I'd be interested in seeing a more in depth analysis of the dice/aj dichotomy from you

[WWWwombat]

I could go back if you really want, but it was mainly just the feel I got while reading it.  They both seemed very cautious, which is not something I associate with their town games.