House of Cards

[Kaylee]

Cass

Today, 04:08 AM

Nynaeve, on 27 May 2015 - 01:30 AM, said:

 

Cass, on 27 May 2015 - 01:24 AM, said:

- Kaylee agrees with a lot of Nyn's content;

 

1. Can you blame her?

 

 

2. On a serious note, I typically find it difficult to read Kaylee but I can see her actively trying to figure things out and that's a good sign imo.

 

1. Guess that depends on what each of you randed here

2. Ok, with the caveat of the above. What did you make of her disagreeing with Clov's initial weak push of you, but not really following it up?

 

 

On your second point... you're missing the fact that I have a town peek in her. I said it close to start of D1. So for me there was nothing to follow up. She wasn't being strung up.

[Kaylee]

Cass

Today, 04:08 AM

Nynaeve, on 27 May 2015 - 01:30 AM, said:

 

Cass, on 27 May 2015 - 01:24 AM, said:

- Kaylee agrees with a lot of Nyn's content;

 

1. Can you blame her?

 

 

2. On a serious note, I typically find it difficult to read Kaylee but I can see her actively trying to figure things out and that's a good sign imo.

 

1. Guess that depends on what each of you randed here

2. Ok, with the caveat of the above. What did you make of her disagreeing with Clov's initial weak push of you, but not really following it up?

 

 

On your second point... you're missing the fact that I have a town peek in her. I said it close to start of D1. So for me there was nothing to follow up. She wasn't being strung up.

[Kaylee]

 

 

2. Ok, with the caveat of the above. What did you make of her disagreeing with Clov's initial weak push of you, but not really following it up?

Clov wasn't pushing me, in my book. He was just giving out preliminary feelz.

 

Kaylee asked Clov to clarify why he mentioned Lee and me specifically, since he didn't really say and she thought all our content up until then was dicking around. My impression was that she was trying to understand his line of thought. His suspicion of Lee he explained in relation to her interaction with Verbal, to which Kaylee agreed with. His suspicion of me was that I just wasn't giving him townie vibes yet. In any case she said she agreed with him on Lee. So I'm guessing she felt differently about me. Though, I don't really understand what you mean by not following up on it. Even if she disagreed with him... other than saying she disagrees with him what exactly would you expect her to do?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Kaylee's simple agreement with this post of Nyn's feels too quick. It's definitely possible that she just reads Nyn better than me but the bold of Nyn's bothers me because it seems overly harsh (lolScaryNyn).

*laughs*

Don't tease me! I don't even get you when you laugh!!!

I just think it's funny that you find me scary.

I'm curious on the bold as well. Seems like your stretching for things to find scummy about me.

 

Nyn is correct on what happened with the Clov comments. Thought I had explained that already.

[Nynaeve]

Like... you know my MO as a villager by now. My biggest problem with you is this whole perma-catchup, avoid real time shenanigans and the fact that while you are asking questions A) most of them are inane and B) I don't think they are questions you legitimately care about the answer to! Which has always been something I've jotted as wolfy for you. You overplay your "tinfoil" - ie it seems this game your top wolf suspects are people that are not gonna get lynched anytime soon, absolving you of a need to get involved closer to EOD.

I would think you flip wolf like 75%+ percent of the time here. Am I wrong?

 

 

I think you make some interesting points here. Gonna iSO her later and see if anything catches my eye. Also wanna see her response to this.

[Kaylee]

Wombat, I don't understand your progression on Kaylee. FTR, I agree with Hallia's assessment of her being town based on her level of involvement and probing. I share that read on her, but I just don't get how your read moves along.

 

 

 

Town lean on Kaylee through p. 6.

Ok, this is pretty clear.

 

 

 

 

 

Clov came in and made a joke about the scum team's identity, naming three players that haven't posted yet. You asked him if that was a soulread and then asked if it was a aussie theme. The whole post sounded fake to me and I did not care for it.

 

Darthe's opinion of how you usually play means squat to me. Other than mentoring you in a game, I don't think we've played together before so my focus is on your play in THIS game. And OMGUS FoSing me for allegedly sheeping Darthe (of all people! lol) is not making you look any better in my eyes. I also find it interesting that I'm getting FoSed but Darthe isn't even though, under your consideration, your content so far doesn't warrant it.

 

 

Any other thoughts you have to share?

I like this post of Nyn's.

Dammit -_-

But I don't get this. Why 'dammit'? You have a town read on her, but this implies you're annoyed that you agree with your town read?? Am I missing something?

 

 

 

 

Never said pushing people is bad form. Just called it ironic as I saw it you did something you called her out for.

Not really that ironic imo. Feels like you're trying to call Sooh a hypocrite with using the word "hypocrite."

I don't read this post as a player interacting with a town read of theirs - I see this as a player poking at another player they potentially find suspicious. Again, correct me if I'm missing something here.

 

 

 

 

Five pages in and I'm liking Cory, Darthe, and Kaylee for town this game.

 

Cory and Darthe for their willingness to explain the N0 peeks for the non PoG players.

 

 

 

 

 

My peek hasn't checked in yet.

 

I think we're better served following Tom the Tom's advice and waiting towards EOD to reveal. Players unfamiliar with seer cover may have troubles keeping that consistency through out the Day that wolves can see and cross them out as legit peeks. The less time there is for that, the better.

 

Think before you claim.

Maybe that pans out more in a long game, I'm not familiar enough to say one way or another with certainty. What I do know is that early peeks are more likely to be wrong which both increases the odds of clearing yourself as not the seer if you're mafia or of you being the seer if you got it right. It's all a strange dichotomy.

I'm confused. Are you saying that it's better to wait? I'm asking because it seems like at first you're disagreeing with AJ, then agree.

 

The bold sounds like you disagree with him.

 

Green is sounds like you agree.

 

Can you please clarify?

Kaylee for this. A wolfie Kaylee does not probe this early, and ask questions. Moving on.

Meh. How is explaining mechanics a town tell?

This is the post I agree with Hallia on - it gave me the exact same read on Kaylee for the exact same reasons. But the 'meh' you post implies you disagree. But then that means you disagree with a player's town read on a player you are town reading. I'm totally lost on your thought process.

 

 

 

 

Adding Wombat to my townlist. Almost ready to add a certain news anchor to the list because Nyn, but I'm not crazy about Hallia seemingly ignoring everything I said about Nyn beyond my first post.

I c wut u did thar.

 

 

 

Never said pushing people is bad form. Just called it ironic as I saw it you did something you called her out for.

Not really that ironic imo. Feels like you're trying to call Sooh a hypocrite with using the word "hypocrite."

I was basically calling her hypocrite.

BAM. Kaylee town read.

And we come full circle on you town reading Kaylee.....who you already said you're town reading. You make it sound like this is your conclusion, but you started this way.

 

My problem is everything in between these 2 town-reading posts is you acting like you DON'T read Kaylee as town, though.

 

???

That's a good point and I look forward to hearing the response. (This is where I'm at catching up).

 

Once I'm fully caught up I'll do a few ISO's and put out a reads list... there's a few that I need to read back over first.

[Cass]

 

 

Stopping after page 11 but I would say it's very likely that Wombat/Verb/Cass/Sooh/Dice/Clov contains 2+ wolves

 

I will give you a better and more concise list later but right now those are the people I am most wary of

 

These sorts of posts/reads bother me Cory - how am I supposed to work out if your motivation for putting wolf suggestions out is more Town than Scum if you don't provide the reasons why/encourage more discussion?

Like... you know my MO as a villager by now. My biggest problem with you is this whole perma-catchup, avoid real time shenanigans and the fact that while you are asking questions A) most of them are inane and B) I don't think they are questions you legitimately care about the answer to! Which has always been something I've jotted as wolfy for you. You overplay your "tinfoil" - ie it seems this game your top wolf suspects are people that are not gonna get lynched anytime soon, absolving you of a need to get involved closer to EOD.

 

I would think you flip wolf like 75%+ percent of the time here. Am I wrong?

 

 

It will be interesting to see if your opinion changes after the post/reads list I just made. You are wrong, I flip Town here 100% of the time.

 

Part of what's bugging me about you is your push that I'm wolfy in this game without you even trying to see where I'm coming from as Town. I do not know your MO as a villager by now. I've only played that one mash with you and I don't think that counts. I've never had in game experience with you and the most of what I know about your meta from discussions is that you generally make good reads and do well at hunting down wolves. I've never seen how you do it for myself. Here I was trying to give you insight into what I'm actually looking for and how I hunt, and you give me nothing back but generalised suggestions about things that potentially make me wolf. If that's your in game MO, fine - but don't expect me to believe it's something you wouldn't do equally as wolf.

 

Like Darthe, if you're Town it actually annoys me that you think/are pushing that I should be doing something different already as Town. Why do you think this?  I have survived exactly one Town game to the end and it was my first. I have had personal discussions with you about this and you never really seem to get where I'm actually at, so I can see you suggesting the same thing as Town, but I find it incredibly frustrating, and again - in game it's not something I would put past either of you to use as Wolf against me, because it works. How am I even supposed to address your points A) and B) other than tell you that I'm actually doing my best here? What are you hoping to achieve through that other than overtly discrediting my attempts and overall style as wolfy? How does this ever not equate, in my Town mind, to something making you more likely wolf?

 

I don't know what else to do about this. I've repeatedly said I want/need a mentor as Town. I'm not joking, and I am not 'overplaying my tinfoil'. I am perpetually stuck in perma-catchup and have no idea how to glean valuable information from real-time interactions and it bugs the hell out of me because I know it's holding back my play. Until I break that barrier (and I'm trying!) I'm going to be stuck doing what I'm doing: combining gut feels on certain players and their possible motivations and the inconsistencies I find when combing through their posts. I am the first to admit this works terribly in the early game, especially when I'm slow.

 

If you actually want specific questions answered by me or specific opinions from me to help you figure out my alignment more, if something genuinely confuses you about my tone or behaviour, all you have to do is ask. This is what I've been waiting for you to do. This is how I expected Town Cory to play with Town Cass. All you have done so far is judge me on your too-high expectations of me, point your finger and give examples of eye-glazing posts I've made in this game, and in my first game as wolf. Notably, to me, you didn't even analyse the differences between those two posts, or bother to search for the very similar posts I made in my one game as Town - Why? How am I wrong in finding the potential for the motivation behind that to be wolfy here quite large? FTR, the answer to this question does matter to me, either way. 

[Cory Caboose]

God that is so many words

[Cory Caboose]

Be more concise and be willing to talk to people in real time

 

I skim basically all of your posts because nobody has time to read what you're could say in two or three sentences in 14 paragraphs

[Cory Caboose]

Like we're in two different worlds right now or reading two different games

 

Nothing has changed on my end irt to how I feel about you

[Cass]

Hi Cass.

 

 

[v]Cass[/v]

 

Ignoring me isn't going to make me go away.

 

Hi, I wasn't ignoring you and I definitely wasn't hoping you were going to go away just yet. Response is up.

 

Going back to my perma-catchup/other responses now  . Will keep last page open in an attempt to do real-time. If there's something you/anyone wants me to address out of order go ahead and ask.

[Verbal32]

 

Stopping after page 11 but I would say it's very likely that Wombat/Verb/Cass/Sooh/Dice/Clov contains 2+ wolves

 

I will give you a better and more concise list later but right now those are the people I am most wary of

 

These sorts of posts/reads bother me Cory - how am I supposed to work out if your motivation for putting wolf suggestions out is more Town than Scum if you don't provide the reasons why/encourage more discussion?

 

 

I don't like this post.  Cory has provided a solid amount of detail on the reasons why he's reading people the way he is.  Whether or not he is correct is irrelevant to why I don't like this post - you're blatantly misrepping him here.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Wolfy:

 

Darthe - forceful on early Seer cover, ?explanation in post #54, both defending/distancing from Nyn, 'pre-vote' /overly hard push on Sooh

Why is any of the bold wolfy?  Ignore the part about Nyn for purposes of your response, please.  Just comment on the Seer cover and the push on Sooh.  What of that was wolfy?

 

 

I've explained the Darthe and Seer cover thing in response to Clov here (See the last two paragraphs of the intro and the final spoiler if you missed it). 

Basically it's not the Seer cover itself I find wolfy, it's the way Darthe made posting it early such a big thing and simultaneously admitted/downplayed the potential for incorrect early cover to be more beneficial to Scum trying to find the real Seer. Basically the concern is a potential role-fishing push to encourage a higher percentage of incorrect cover.

 

The Darthe on Sooh push felt wolfy because:

 

1. Darthe was the first to vote and the vote felt overly eager - He voted in the 'stumping' phase, where votes didn't count, and when questioned brushed it off as 'pre-vote' for the day, which didn't feel sincere;

 

 

Day 1 Starts at 9PM EST and will last 48 hours:

 

You may now begin stumping.  Day does not start until 9:00PM EST.  Votes will not count during the stump period.  This is a good time to make alliances and grease palms...

 

/snip

 

 

/snip

[v] Sooh [/v]

 

 

Pre-voting for day Leelou

 

 

 

2. I disagreed with the generalisations that went with the vote and there was otherwise no specific reasons given or effort at interaction made:

 

 

/Snip

However, I think Sooh is definitely wolfing this round.  She is usually a pretty pure townie.  [v] Sooh [/v]

 

Sooh has been repeatedly pushed as not Townie early on in all the games I've played recently with her, so I completely disagree with the rationalisation that she's 'usually a pretty pure townie'.

This was all the involvement Sooh had in the game up until that vote, none of it seems investigative on Darthe's behalf, and none of it  feels decidedly off for Sooh's early game, enough to vote, to me:

 

 

 

Hi everyone! 

 

I will be scarce Thursday because I have an exam, and Friday because I'm overseeing someone else's exam. Other than that I should be fine 

 

Happy visits to Vegas, Leelou! Sounds fun!

 

 

Lol I already love this game. 

 

 

 

 

I'm a little sad Cory isn't showering me with love, but I guess I'll deal with it...

 

 

Weee!!!! Happy now! 

 

 

 

I'm still gonna lunch you though  

 

 

Ok.. warning accepted, Cory.

 

 

 

I'm a little sad Cory isn't showering me with love, but I guess I'll deal with it...

Prob a slightly wolfy intro

 

AJ I have read your soul and found it needs more content

 

 

 

 

Wombat, Cass, Dice scumteam.

Soulread?

 

Or is it just the Aussie theme?

 

 

 

 

**snip**

 

I'm pretty okay at mafia sometimes, Sooh, but I don't think I can soulread people who haven't posted.   

 

Yeah... I suppose even you can't... Oh well... 

 

 

 

 

 

After reading this post a couple of times, I'd doubt Cass and Sooh are w/w.  This type of linking together typically does not come from v/v (imo), so I'd say one of you is a wolf.  My initial gut read here says Sooh.  Part of that is me putting faith in the only other villager in the game I know (my peek - Darthe), and the rest is the AtE posts she's been making.

 

I don't normally like to line up lynches like this (it is usually wolfy), but I'm going out on a limb to say if Sooh flips town, you're on the hot seat the following day.

[Cass]

God that is so many words

 

 

Be more concise and be willing to talk to people in real time

 

I skim basically all of your posts because nobody has time to read what you're could say in two or three sentences in 14 paragraphs

 

 

Like we're in two different worlds right now or reading two different games

 

Nothing has changed on my end irt to how I feel about you

 

 

Are you going to bother reading those words and trying to see where I'm coming from?

Are you going to answer my questions?

Perhaps the reason it's like we're in two different worlds right now, and why I'm always so far behind is because I do read everything that everybody posts, even when I skim.

[Cory Caboose]

And Cass if you're really all that pent up as a villager about how "I am not trying to figure you out", there are 11 players in this game I need to figure out, so you don't get special attention

 

Other people have been significantly more villagery than you and there is no post you've made so far that you couldn't make as a wolf and you've shied away heavily from talking to people in real time and we both know you get FROZE UP as a wolf trying to gauge an active thread

 

As a wolf I see you more usually fluffing up a bunch of content and hiding behind your wall of words (usually successfully) as opposed to peeking your head out for real

 

It took me this long to get you to respond to me, ffs

[Cory Caboose]

 

 

God that is so many words

Be more concise and be willing to talk to people in real time

 

I skim basically all of your posts because nobody has time to read what you're could say in two or three sentences in 14 paragraphs

Like we're in two different worlds right now or reading two different games

 

Nothing has changed on my end irt to how I feel about you

 

Are you going to bother reading those words and trying to see where I'm coming from?

Are you going to answer my questions?

Perhaps the reason it's like we're in two different worlds right now, and why I'm always so far behind is because I do read everything that everybody posts, even when I skim.

I skimmed it and saw nothing but "well this is what's bugging me about YOU" sort of tomfoolery I don't feel like I need to respond to

 

What you have to understand is that, in this REALISTIC world, I have more vocal power than you. Sad to say its that kind of world but it is what it is. You need to prove yourself to me - I don't really care about proving anything to you because I will never be lynched this game and I've been extraordinarily transparent

 

Make me believe you're a villager or you get lunched, that's pretty much all there is to it

[Cass]

 

 

 

Stopping after page 11 but I would say it's very likely that Wombat/Verb/Cass/Sooh/Dice/Clov contains 2+ wolves

 

I will give you a better and more concise list later but right now those are the people I am most wary of

 

These sorts of posts/reads bother me Cory - how am I supposed to work out if your motivation for putting wolf suggestions out is more Town than Scum if you don't provide the reasons why/encourage more discussion?

 

 

 

 

I don't like this post.  Cory has provided a solid amount of detail on the reasons why he's reading people the way he is.  Whether or not he is correct is irrelevant to why I don't like this post - you're blatantly misrepping him here.

 

I'm highlighting that it bothers me when people don't post reasons for why they think other players are Scum, and I phrased it into a question in the hopes that Cory would start to interact. How is that misrepping?

Get back to me when you've read my reply to his reply on this. 

[Kaylee]

 

 

I'm going to go back and look at those who have defended me, but one that really stood out was Bewbs team, when Nyn was clearly opposed, then Hallia cleared me and then they both retracted. I think that was pretty strange behavior. It's like Hallia was trying to use TMI to defend me so they would look better after my flip or something.

I didn't retract anything. I was suspicious of your question to Clov, disliked how you reacted to my prod and then pretty much disliked all of your content since quite vocally. And I've backed that up with a vote. Halli was under the impression that you were a clueless newbie and was basically giving you a pass because of it. I informed her that you are not a newbie. You've been mentored both by Clov and me and you've played enough games, IMO, to not get any sort of pass. Simple as that.

I thought the above explanation by Nyn was obvious when it first happened. I mean that Nyn never retracted and that Hally had given a newbie a pass, in her eyes, then retracted when she realized (through her partner) Sooh wasn't a newbie.

[Cory Caboose]

And just from watching you wolf I remember several games you'd post big, empty WoTs with a lot of words while nobody is around to engage you and skype me "WIM wolfing!!!" and I feel like if I wasn't playing you might do the same thing after your last set of posts

 

If that makes sense, lol

[Cory Caboose]

"Hopes that I would start to interact"?

 

Lol what?

[Verbal32]

My major issue with Sooh is that my heart really wants her to be a villager and I'm finding that harder to ignore

 

This might make no sense to ANYONE but I am going to be extremely disappointed if she's a wolf and this was her approach to "clearing herself" as a wolf - abusing guilt tactics and emotional manipulation. So I want to believe she's a villager so I don't have to deal with that disappointment.

 

But that wanting doesn't make her a villager, and that's where my heart is torn.

 

I took something Mish told me once to heart - "play a beautiful game", because there's no pride in winning a game dirty like that.

 

I want to expound on this for a minute.  I play on JN as well, and I know you're familiar with a player named the Ape there - he repped JN in the Champs games last season.

 

Some time last year, I was in a JN game and was a villager.  I had Ape as a major wolf read, and was actively pushing for his lynch.  His responses made me more and more sure of my read, and I got a little excited about lynching the biggest loud mouth on the site, lol.  Well, once I stepped up my campaign, he snapped and lashed out hard with AtE.  Very hard.  He went into how he snapped at his wife because of the game, yadda yadda.

 

Needless to say, I immediately dropped it and actually cleared him as a result.  I know you're not doing that here, but I'm making a point (that I'll get to in a min).  I said that he would never do this as a villager for the same reasons you gave above - playing clean and using those emotional tactics and the disappointment I'd feel if he did it.  I was not willing to accept he could be a wolf, and dropped my campaign.

 

I ended up dead not long after, and wolves ended up winning the game.....and he was a wolf.  I was so pissed at that moment that I almost quit playing on JN altogether.  It still stings to this day, and for that reason I will be more than happy to lynch players that use excessive AtE.  Fear mongering is fine, whatever.  But AtE is lame.  No offense to you, Sooh, but I can't accept that you'd no longer want to be an active player because so many people are disagreeing with you.  I want you to be comfortable - we all do.  But saying this in-game is obviously AtE whether you intend it that way or not.  Due to my own experience on it that I've just explained, I'm going to not feel bad at all voting you towards EOD.

 

I'm not voting yet, because I still could be persuaded to vote Cass or Wombat.  Cass due to what I was talking about in my last post, and Wombat from the mini case I made on him earlier today.  Those 3 are my WTL pool for today, with the added caveat that I highly doubt Sooh & Cass are w/w.

[Kaylee]

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yeah guys think about this logically!

 

I tried to stir the pot D1 you shouldn't be looking at me!

 

Maybe I'm the seer, who knows?

 

 

These are almost verbatum from her post.

 

We can go ahead and may Sooh now. It won't actually do anything but you'll all get warm fuzzies from it.

By all means, go ahead. My only plan today was to give my team something to work with for later. That's all.

I intend to. You recognize that you're doing the opposite of what you should be doing as town, right?

Then enlighten me... I thought the purpose was to find tells as to who are wolves and not in this game. I've not been very successful in the past, so I'm trying out something new. I am Town in this game, but I do understand your push on me. At this point I feel you pushing me almost makes you the clearest Town around. Like I tried saying in my post, I'm more wary now of the people who DON'T have me as wolf...

 

If you notice I still haven't placed my vote. I don't have anywhere clear enough to put it yet. If I was wolf, would I care? Or would I just place my vote somewhere and see if it would stick?

I followed your post until the bold, which I don't like. I've used that defense as a wolf plenty of times, and have seen others do it as well.

I've seen it too. Besides you should care as a wolf because you want to appear town. The argument isn't valid.

[Cory Caboose]

Verbal one day I'll tell you the story of CRUNKUS, the wolf master of AtE

[Kaylee]

 

 

**snip**

 

I followed your post until the bold, which I don't like. I've used that defense as a wolf plenty of times, and have seen others do it as well.

 

It was never meant as a defense... or I guess it was... kinda... but I also meant to show you that I'm confused as heck right now and I don't know where to go in terms of leaving my vote.

It didn't come across that way. More like "this is why I couldn't be a wolf guys!"

[Verbal32]

 

 

God that is so many words

Be more concise and be willing to talk to people in real time

 

I skim basically all of your posts because nobody has time to read what you're could say in two or three sentences in 14 paragraphs

Like we're in two different worlds right now or reading two different games

 

Nothing has changed on my end irt to how I feel about you

 

Are you going to bother reading those words and trying to see where I'm coming from?

Are you going to answer my questions?

Perhaps the reason it's like we're in two different worlds right now, and why I'm always so far behind is because I do read everything that everybody posts, even when I skim.

I skimmed it and saw nothing but "well this is what's bugging me about YOU" sort of tomfoolery I don't feel like I need to respond to

 

What you have to understand is that, in this REALISTIC world, I have more vocal power than you. Sad to say its that kind of world but it is what it is. You need to prove yourself to me - I don't really care about proving anything to you because I will never be lynched this game and I've been extraordinarily transparent

 

Make me believe you're a villager or you get lunched, that's pretty much all there is to it

 

 

I don't want to start a long debate about this, but I can't help making a comment/question to Clov, who I assume reads Cory better than anybody else in this game.  If I have that wrong, then I want to redirect this to them.

 

@Clov - is the above bold something Cory would say more as villager or wolf?  My feeling is that it is likely alignment neutral for him, but I admit it caught my eye and made me frown....so I needed to ask.  I don't remember past games well, but I think he has said similar things before as a villager, but I can't recall if he has said it as a wolf.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Stopping after page 11 but I would say it's very likely that Wombat/Verb/Cass/Sooh/Dice/Clov contains 2+ wolves

 

I will give you a better and more concise list later but right now those are the people I am most wary of

 

These sorts of posts/reads bother me Cory - how am I supposed to work out if your motivation for putting wolf suggestions out is more Town than Scum if you don't provide the reasons why/encourage more discussion?

 

 

 

 

I don't like this post.  Cory has provided a solid amount of detail on the reasons why he's reading people the way he is.  Whether or not he is correct is irrelevant to why I don't like this post - you're blatantly misrepping him here.

 

I'm highlighting that it bothers me when people don't post reasons for why they think other players are Scum, and I phrased it into a question in the hopes that Cory would start to interact. How is that misrepping?

Get back to me when you've read my reply to his reply on this. 

 

 

How?  You answered that in the same sentence, that Cory also just commented on.

[Verbal32]

Verbal one day I'll tell you the story of CRUNKUS, the wolf master of AtE

 

We'll compare notes to the master of AtE I'm familiar with, the VicGod.

[Cass]

1. And Cass if you're really all that pent up as a villager about how "I am not trying to figure you out", there are 11 players in this game I need to figure out, so you don't get special attention

 

2. Other people have been significantly more villagery than you and there is no post you've made so far that you couldn't make as a wolf and you've shied away heavily from talking to people in real time and we both know you get FROZE UP as a wolf trying to gauge an active thread

 

3. As a wolf I see you more usually fluffing up a bunch of content and hiding behind your wall of words (usually successfully) as opposed to peeking your head out for real

 

4. It took me this long to get you to respond to me, ffs

 

1. I expect Villagers to try and figure each other out. Nothing to do with special attention.

 

2. This is all true - other people Village better than I do and I do get froze up as wolf because I wait for likely thread consensus to choose a single target and then come up with a solid case that shows my view/steers my interaction in the thread.

I have not been doing any of that here.

 

3. I have peeked my head out here more than I ever do as Wolf. Start talking about my current game.

 

4. Yes. Hello.

 

 

 

When all a player cares about is pushing suspicion on others, I find it wolfy. This is another example of that, to me.