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in the context you never said anything about Tina being wrong. You only said that way later.

If only there was some way for me to be able to go back in time and replay the words I formed to frame my argument.

 

Oh!

 

Wait!

 

We have a whole THREAD of posts that are like recorded and stuff!

 

I never said anything about Tina being wrong at the time, you allege?

I can like Tina's RATIONAL independent of the accuracy of the read.

Weird. The bold looks like I'm saying her read might not be accurate. What was her read again? Was it... Zander = Scum? I forget.

 

 

You're splitting hairs, and badly.

 

I get the distinction, but it is too slight.  Objective saying Zander looks bad because you liked Tina's case implies you agree with it.  You can dance around that all you like, but the conclusion of any reader is going to be the same - you think Zander is scum.

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in the context you never said anything about Tina being wrong. You only said that way later.

If only there was some way for me to be able to go back in time and replay the words I formed to frame my argument.

 

Oh!

 

Wait!

 

We have a whole THREAD of posts that are like recorded and stuff!

 

I never said anything about Tina being wrong at the time, you allege?

I can like Tina's RATIONAL independent of the accuracy of the read.

Weird. The bold looks like I'm saying her read might not be accurate. What was her read again? Was it... Zander = Scum? I forget.

 

 

You're splitting hairs, and badly.

 

I get the distinction, but it is too slight.  Objective saying Zander looks bad because you liked Tina's case implies you agree with it.  You can dance around that all you like, but the conclusion of any reader is going to be the same - you think Zander is scum.

 

 

Nor did he ever did he say he didn't think Zander wasn't scummy and I had some misunderstanding when I was asking him about it earlier. 

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I get the distinction, but it is too slight.  Objective saying Zander looks bad because you liked Tina's case implies you agree with it.  You can dance around that all you like, but the conclusion of any reader is going to be the same - you think Zander is scum.

It's not slight at all. I like her case. I don't know if she's right or not. I'm not voting for a mason soft claim on day 1. I'm still going to read the slots in the event the slots aren't resolved on their own. How is this a difficult concept to grasp?
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And you say MY vote looks bad.

Why was your vote NOT bad? Also, what are your opinions on Seph and AJ? My lynch pool is exactly:

Hally/Seph/AJ

 

And frankly, I'm probably not voting AJ today...

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Does anyone have any specific questions for me before I log off for the night?

Sure.

 

Why do I feel you could be scum this game?

 

Probably because you aren't Town. That's my hunch, anyway.

 

[v]yates[/v]

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I swear you guys added 10 pages as I was reading. I may be in and out today because ew gross sick, but that also means I'm not working so I'll be around for the deadline unless I'm crying in a corner.

 

Tress: "Sili and EP both baffle me as always - EP looks to be pulling one of his classic dubiously beneficial schemes, which I guess means he's probably town." I'm going to have to agree on this statement, it's better wording than what I would say (which is less polite), so I'll go with it. I'm leaning town on EP, and Zander has been leaning more town for me recently. If either of them flips scum, of course we'll need to take a hard look at the other.

 

@Eldrick: don't think too highly of yourself, or my memory, I have a list, lol. I was in two of your games on myndjack, RPS and Haunted Mafia.

 

Not sure if this has been answered yet, but I'm pretty sure Yates is independently grading EP/Zander, despite the claim he provided for them.
As for Yates' claim, I'm am absolutely not a fan of it. Someone mentioned bread-crumbing and I'm pretty sure he said something about flying pumpkin in his first post. Why come out the gate like that in the first place? Getting a scum vibe from Yates still, even after his claim.

 

 

 

I'd say aj and yates seems v/v but I said that about cory and yates last game and lolme

 
Ha, xpost.  I'm thinking the same thing........but w/w.

Yeah the fight almost doesn't feel natural in these coming posts. It's a lot of "no you're scummy." "No YOURE scummy." "No YOU. You're the scummy one."

 

Agreed.

 

I still want to know why you aren't voting your "lock wolf", Yates.

This. It's not right that he's said lock wolf for Seph yet the then back tracks and calls him town. I'm also getting a strong town vibe from Verb now that he's getting involved.

 

 

[unvote]

I will hesitantly follow a Verb for now. I don't likes the cut of his jib. Instead of throwing attitude he could try to help town.

 

I actually found your vote on Yates quite scummy popped in from nowhere and that couldn't read the whole game and a little bit of train comes along and there you are. Verb is being Verb doesn't make him scum doesn't make him town, but you want rid of him because of his attitude?

 

Right now I'm getting a strong scum read from Hallia, that jump on the Yates train was very opportunistic.

 

I'm not a fan of Leelou following Verbal as closely as she is. I'm not sure of my read yet though. It could be t/t but could also be scum buddying up to town, so that's pretty meh until I see a little bit more.

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If, as people say, he had already claimed, what I did would be decidedly not opportunistic, as most don't plan on lynching a claimed vig.

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I started at the beginning of the game but ended up skipping ahead before EOD1, not too long after Pizza made his grandious entrance actually. I didn't actually start to follow it in earnest until around the later part of the game when you had the Cop CC battle going on.

Meh. Not as helpful as I was hoping. I feel like this is an easy enough conclusion to arrive at:

-he has similar enough tone and way of making reads to the champions game that i wasn't going to fos him yet.

And I feel like the people in this game that should recognize this fact are you, Pizza, Sili, Cory, Sooh, Seph, Cass, and Tress. Maybe Verb but Verb thought I was scum in that game so I don't think he was actually reading... But that's 7 slots worth of Town reads and two of those seven are voting for me. I'm not sure what to make of that.

 

not everyone who read your game will have the same conclusions as me.

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I might be tunneling, but it seems to me Yates is being helpful because he's being pressured and he needs to not make enemies.

 

Seems to be the sort of thing he would do as a wolf.

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And I guess, to a way lesser extent, Seph.

Why?

 

How was opportunistic

 

I think I want to see Yates lose his mind completely.

 

[v]Yates[/v]

 

I think I want to see Yates lose his mind completely.

[v]Yates[/v]

 

I'm down. 

[unvote]

[v]Yates.[/v]

[v] Yates [/v]

 

Reading through the multi quotes here I see a backtracking trying to cover himself with snark Yates

 

Look at the timestamps, those three votes built up way too fast. Before this you were pretty much sitting the fence while catching up, but suddenly you're jumping in on a vote for Yates? Not that I don't think his snark doesn't look scummy, or that I'm not currently getting a scum read from him, but your vote is out of place. I expect Leelou to be there because she's tied herself to Verb's hip, so to speak, but your vote? Not really that pretty.

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And I guess, to a way lesser extent, Seph.

Why?

How was opportunistic

 

I think I want to see Yates lose his mind completely.

 

[v]Yates[/v]

 

 

I think I want to see Yates lose his mind completely.

[v]Yates[/v]

I'm down.

[unvote]

[v]Yates.[/v]

[v] Yates [/v]

 

Reading through the multi quotes here I see a backtracking trying to cover himself with snark Yates

Look at the timestamps, those three votes built up way too fast. Before this you were pretty much sitting the fence while catching up, but suddenly you're jumping in on a vote for Yates? Not that I don't think his snark doesn't look scummy, or that I'm not currently getting a scum read from him, but your vote is out of place. I expect Leelou to be there because she's tied herself to Verb's hip, so to speak, but your vote? Not really that pretty.

Excuse me? I was going to vote Yates regardless of Verb, and if you look again, I still am.

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Laine! Where have you been? It's like you've been invisible...

 

**snip**

 

Not sure if this has been answered yet, but I'm pretty sure Yates is independently grading EP/Zander, despite the claim he provided for them.
As for Yates' claim, I'm am absolutely not a fan of it. Someone mentioned bread-crumbing and I'm pretty sure he said something about flying pumpkin in his first post. Why come out the gate like that in the first place? Getting a scum vibe from Yates still, even after his claim.

 

**snip**

 

Can you elaborate on this? I'm not entirely sure what you mean...

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Excuse me? I was going to vote Yates regardless of Verb, and if you look again, I still am.

 

 

I knew this reaction was coming, lol.

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Excuse me? I was going to vote Yates regardless of Verb, and if you look again, I still am.

 

I knew this reaction was coming, lol.

Of course you did, because we are tied to the hip and twinsies.

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@Leelou: "meh" Just what I've observed. I did read through your points on Yates though, and they were good, so I can see that your vote was going there, it's just the echoing that's been throwing me.

 

Laine! Where have you been? It's like you've been invisible...

 

**snip**

 

Not sure if this has been answered yet, but I'm pretty sure Yates is independently grading EP/Zander, despite the claim he provided for them.
As for Yates' claim, I'm am absolutely not a fan of it. Someone mentioned bread-crumbing and I'm pretty sure he said something about flying pumpkin in his first post. Why come out the gate like that in the first place? Getting a scum vibe from Yates still, even after his claim.

 

**snip**

 

Can you elaborate on this? I'm not entirely sure what you mean...

I work a night shift at Amazon (6-5am Monday-Thursday), and while I tried to catch up last night after work, I've pretty much been back and forth sleeping/throwing up most the day. Apologies.

 

I can't exactly speak for Yates, but from what I can tell, he is/was reading Zander as scum and EP and town. Although, if they were masons, they're most likely both town. And it's pretty safe to assume that if one of them flips scum, the other will not be in good light. And I say he "provided" that claim, because if I recall correctly, EP was screwing around about a PR and Yates was the one to call out "masons" for them.

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