A Tale of Middle Earth: Game OVER

Niniel · May 11, 2015

12. And votes him.

I may as well vote you if you're not inclined to communicate your gut feels.

[v]Zander[/v]

13. EP defends Zander. I didn´t notice it when I read it before but I did now.

I may as well vote you if you're not inclined to communicate your gut feels.

[v]Zander[/v]

sometimes a gut feeling is just that. How do you make a case out of a gut feeling?

14. This is the post that I wanted to quote but never did. I like Sili´s reason and I wanted to +1 it.

I may as well vote you if you're not inclined to communicate your gut feels.

[v]Zander[/v]

sometimes a gut feeling is just that. How do you make a case out of a gut feeling?

You explore and articulate until a case grows around it, but I'm not asking him to case sooh. I want to know what he doesn't like about her votes. I want him to care enough about his vote that he defends it instead of a circle-jerk.

To clarify,

I don't care if someone votes someone on the spur of the moment because something feels off.

But when asked, they better be ready to communicate what feels off about them, because if they don't it means they don't care who they vote or if their gut means anything.

And, to be more clear, not caring is a crime.

Then later I got on and voted Zander. By then Pizza had said that he would vote Zander but never did it.

As I said, I don´t like Zander´s "it´s so easy to vote me" defence isn´t very good. I still think that it looked like an easy bandwagon vote from the start and that was my reason for voting him (+ agreeing with Sili).

Gabriel Kross · May 11, 2015

it should still be Seph.
Ok. Would you please remind me why you are voting for Seph? Just a quick bullet point deal would be stellar. Thanks!

1: his reach of trying to make something out of my check in post

2: his singling myself out for "floating" when others were also doing so

^ those are the main 2 reasons though I added another as the talks continued about how he was ignoring everything else that was going on, which reminds me not long after that post the thunderdome comment came out.

and before you ask no number 2 is not the same as how I found Eld suspicious I had a specific criteria for singling Eld out

What exactly was this criteria? I understand he hasn't played in a while, but neither have you. I also understand that the "speculation" he was making was not nearly as in depth as others (Yates, Pizza) were making. I feel like you're being particularly tunnely all around.

someone who is new is less likely to make grand scheme talks, if it had just been to ask about the multiball term which I must admit is a new term to me as well I wouldn't have questioned it. However he goes on to make other posts about mechanics and sounds a little too informed while doing so.

I think when you're new you try to understand game balance and set ups more; it's an easy topic. But if Eldrick is informed enough to speak knowledgeably I think that should mean he's not as new as you thought he was.

Eldrick told you he's modded games. Doesn't that tell you anything about his experience level?

To both of you I can't speak as to why as it involves not just this game. In general he is rubbing me wrong and seems too knowledgable about this game hence I don't trust him.

alannalynn · May 11, 2015

I played in two of Eldrick's games in 2010, how long have you been playing EP? I just don't see what experience has to do with it. And by that turn of logic, why you aren't equally fosing others who were in the same conversation with Eldrick about the game setup. That is all.

Gabriel Kross · May 11, 2015

12. And votes him.

I may as well vote you if you're not inclined to communicate your gut feels.

[v]Zander[/v]

13. EP defends Zander. I didn´t notice it when I read it before but I did now.

I may as well vote you if you're not inclined to communicate your gut feels.

[v]Zander[/v]

sometimes a gut feeling is just that. How do you make a case out of a gut feeling?

14. This is the post that I wanted to quote but never did. I like Sili´s reason and I wanted to +1 it.

I may as well vote you if you're not inclined to communicate your gut feels.

[v]Zander[/v]

sometimes a gut feeling is just that. How do you make a case out of a gut feeling?

You explore and articulate until a case grows around it, but I'm not asking him to case sooh. I want to know what he doesn't like about her votes. I want him to care enough about his vote that he defends it instead of a circle-jerk.

To clarify,

I don't care if someone votes someone on the spur of the moment because something feels off.

But when asked, they better be ready to communicate what feels off about them, because if they don't it means they don't care who they vote or if their gut means anything.

And, to be more clear, not caring is a crime.

Then later I got on and voted Zander. By then Pizza had said that he would vote Zander but never did it.

As I said, I don´t like Zander´s "it´s so easy to vote me" defence isn´t very good. I still think that it looked like an easy bandwagon vote from the start and that was my reason for voting him (+ agreeing with Sili).

yup I defended Zander. I've gone as far as to list him as a town read take that as you will.

Gabriel Kross · May 11, 2015

I played in two of Eldrick's games in 2010, how long have you been playing EP? I just don't see what experience has to do with it. And by that turn of logic, why you aren't equally fosing others who were in the same conversation with Eldrick about the game setup. That is all.

read what I said to your previous comment. Also I started playing at the same time Ithi did (I think same game iirc) The BlackTower Mistborn game was my first. I have reasons to doubt his knowledge base and that's about all I can say without breaking rules.

Niniel · May 11, 2015

<3 Leelou

EP - what about Zander makes you think that he is town? It´s possible that the reason is somewhere in your posts but I don´t have the time to go search for it.

Signing in...

Well seems like today is my day. one of my favorite themes starts and im not at work awesome!

Do you aj, and you tress use the same opening posts every game? Lol

Well I know AJ doesnt cause this one isnt gonna get me trying to lynch him.

Vote:Talya welcome back hun!

Thank you sweetie, nice to feel wanted!

Now down to a bit of business. I don't know many of you hear, probably more than I do know, and I haven't played for a while. So I will just go on what I see here.

First Sili's vote on Seth: I found this a little off, he had a wall of posts from Seth and all of it seemed like fluff (spam at the beginning of a game), at that early on in the game it was like grasping at straws.

There now seems to be a spat between EP and Sili. From the first it seemed to be about EP saying he wasn't doing much until the game really got going, I didn't find this statement as scummy...it was the norm when I played before, things really didn't get going until most people had posted. It seemed to escalate there between, after EP's recent post accusing Sili and Eld for distancing, I felt that this was more likely to be EP and Sili. At the moment if I have to choose one of them, Sili seems more scummy to me at present.

Hi guys. I'm a villager and i have exactly two reads right Now

Sili is probably a villager but I might try getting at him out of spite for voting me every game for no reason.

Based on my perception of seph'sseph's villager/wolf games he flips villager here way more often than he flips wolf

#hotreads

Didn't particularly like this post, came in with he was town and that he thought someone else was. If you think someone is town, fine say your reason, but putting you are in there as well..trying too hard maybe.

There's a good chance EP is mafia after failing to connect his reads. First he approves of Eldrick's case on Pizza, expresses a desire for Pizza to respond in his own words, and doesn't like me defending Pizza, and then he says he's suspicious of Eldrick.

His read on me and Pizza, and his approval of Eldrick's case on Pizza is disharmonious with his scum read of Eldrick. He both has a town read of Eldrick, and a scum read of Eldrick. It can't be both, so he's faking his reads, and so I'm sticking my vote on EP over Zanders at eod.

Cheers.

The bolded bit: grasping at straws, even someone who is mafia can have good points, doesn't mean you think they are town.

At the moment

VOTE SILI

I don´t understand what you mean.

Leelou · May 11, 2015

Verbsy, honey, I have a request...can we break the multiquote button.

Gabriel Kross · May 11, 2015

@Tina, lets just leave it at I have a good feeling.

Gabriel Kross · May 11, 2015

Verbsy, honey, I have a request...can we break the multiquote button.

nope

Leelou · May 11, 2015

I played in two of Eldrick's games in 2010, how long have you been playing EP? I just don't see what experience has to do with it. And by that turn of logic, why you aren't equally fosing others who were in the same conversation with Eldrick about the game setup. That is all.

read what I said to your previous comment. Also I started playing at the same time Ithi did (I think same game iirc) The BlackTower Mistborn game was my first. I have reasons to doubt his knowledge base and that's about all I can say without breaking rules.

You guys are scum together, aren't you? :p

Leelou · May 11, 2015

Verbsy, honey, I have a request...can we break the multiquote button.

nope

ARE YOU HONEY?

alannalynn · May 11, 2015

I played in two of Eldrick's games in 2010, how long have you been playing EP? I just don't see what experience has to do with it. And by that turn of logic, why you aren't equally fosing others who were in the same conversation with Eldrick about the game setup. That is all.

read what I said to your previous comment. Also I started playing at the same time Ithi did (I think same game iirc) The BlackTower Mistborn game was my first. I have reasons to doubt his knowledge base and that's about all I can say without breaking rules.

I guess I just don't see what other games have to do with this. Let's focus a little less on meta, and more on what's going on in THIS game now.

seph · May 11, 2015

EP, why are you town reading zander?

Talya · May 11, 2015

Hi Leelou

Tina, you will have to be more specific.

Gabriel Kross · May 11, 2015

I played in two of Eldrick's games in 2010, how long have you been playing EP? I just don't see what experience has to do with it. And by that turn of logic, why you aren't equally fosing others who were in the same conversation with Eldrick about the game setup. That is all.

read what I said to your previous comment. Also I started playing at the same time Ithi did (I think same game iirc) The BlackTower Mistborn game was my first. I have reasons to doubt his knowledge base and that's about all I can say without breaking rules.

You guys are scum together, aren't you? :p

nope because that wouldn't break any rules :P

Verbsy, honey, I have a request...can we break the multiquote button.

nope

ARE YOU HONEY?

I COULD BE! Also I still have something of yours!

Gabriel Kross · May 11, 2015

EP, why are you town reading zander?

because I am. Simple as that.

alannalynn · May 11, 2015

You guys are scum together, aren't you? :p

I lol'd. No.

Talya · May 11, 2015

You guys are scum together, aren't you? :p

I lol'd. No.

so that means just you are scum? :wink:

Zander? · May 11, 2015

Sooh even though you gave a reasom for your voting...i dont like it...

[v] Sooh [/v]

Hello and Happy Mother's Day to all the mother's here!!

This vote doesn´t look good. You are voting the person that has been talked about lately but not stating a real reason.

its a feeling hence why i said i didnt like it, its early and things can change. not gonna fret or worry about throwing my vote out to my gut feel this early in the game.

What is this?

I may as well vote you if you're not inclined to communicate your gut feels.

[v]Zander[/v]

Those where the posts I should have quoted.

And I don´t remember if I need to unvote so:

[unvote]

[v] Zander [/v]

FWIW I dont mind facing persection for that post. Sooh is one of the few players that I know and her quick and early vote changes was very unSoohlike to me. I didnt like. I dont like it hence my vote stands there. My job is to sort out Scum...its early and this is my read of her.

@Tina I like how you didn't ACTUALLY ADD the post I explained what your you were asking me in......

seph · May 11, 2015

EP, why are you town reading zander?

because I am. Simple as that.

I would actually like a reason plz.

I have trouble reading him, he has been in every game with me. And I only got his alignment right once.

I didn't like his vote on sooh, so could you give me a little more than that.

alannalynn · May 11, 2015

Alright, I'm out for the day, I need to get ready and go to work. I won't even be home until 5am EST, so don't expect anything until then.

Zander? · May 11, 2015

EP, why are you town reading zander?

because I am. Simple as that.

I would actually like a reason plz.

I have trouble reading him, he has been in every game with me. And I only got his alignment right once.

I didn't like his vote on sooh, so could you give me a little more than that.

i guess this applies to Tina too...if i missed either of you talking about Sooh votes my bad but....my one vote on Sooh is troubling but her quick flip flop votes are?

Zander? · May 11, 2015

epwop

aren't not are....sorry

Leelou · May 11, 2015

Verbsy, honey, I have a request...can we break the multiquote button.

nope

ARE YOU HONEY?

I COULD BE! Also I still have something of yours!

YOU ARE NOT! And you can mail it to me.

Gabriel Kross · May 11, 2015

EP, why are you town reading zander?

because I am. Simple as that.

I would actually like a reason plz.

I have trouble reading him, he has been in every game with me. And I only got his alignment right once.

I didn't like his vote on sooh, so could you give me a little more than that.

let suffice to know that Zander is town any more than that is unnecessary at this time.

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