A Tale of Middle Earth: Game OVER

[alannalynn]

Wow. And I thought he was joking.

 

I need to go back over my notes and see what I can get.

 

EP, where are you getting at me being on a mafia team with AH and Pizza/Tina? I'm pretty sure AH is at the bottom of my last scum list, with Hallia. Though that's going to change soon, I'm sure.

[alannalynn]

Pizza went #beyondfulldarthe

I lol'd

[Gabriel Kross]

i can assure you that i am town, Talya. I suspect he did view to be sure he had two townies, so he could be cleared if either me or krak would be killed

I want to go back and look at something later.

 

For the record if I am night killed, someone go back and look at what day Pizza claimed his views on. Something feels off. I feel like I remember him claiming his views day 2, but it could have been day 3. If it was day 2 there was no way he could have had 2 cleared town, in that scenario Thane flips mafia 100%, if he said his views day 3, then Thane is likely safe.

 

I still want to say the following are definately mafia

 

AH

Alanna

WK

Seph

[alannalynn]

EP, I agree on AH and WK being mafia, not so sure about Seph. I know I am not mafia. We could start with one of the first two tomorrow?

 

Now that Thane is not confirmed, I want to take a better look at him, as well.

[Leelou]

I'm probably not going to be around much before 1, I'm on vacation next week and have a ton of work to get done before leaving the office today. 

 

Tomorrow, I'm voting WK. 

[Leelou]

Although, it does seem like Pizza was protecting Heart. 

[Thane Vakarian]

we can speculate all we want. I'm curious as to see which NA's will be revealed end of night. 

[Gabriel Kross]

If Hally is Town? Pizza and Thane are scum. Easy peasy.

can't believe I'm going to say this, but Yates was right.

 

let me put it to you this way, someone of the three Leelou, Hallia, and Pizza is lieing and of the three I most suspect it's Leelou. A double voter is the most beneficial of the three to a mafia team. As far as we know there is no town NK action in this game so a bodyguard is useless to the mafia and JoAT is not something Mafia'd really benefit from.

I was half right lol someone in those three was lieing I was just on the wrong one.

 

Ok I'm up to page 90 in this game. I don't know if I'll be able to read up in time and I need to go a few places with my roommate soon so I'm just going to give my thoughts as of page 90 and then vote on this whole gladiator situation (saw it the last time I checked in). I've skimmed over the last couple of pages as well to see what arguments others are giving either way.

 

First though a little something from "my time" in the game

Now that I can say this knowing you aren't a wolf...

I have a theory...

This is horse poop angle shooting. When is the last time you were right about something like this? Now look at me role? Still never.

 

That said, I won't be voting Aiel Heart ever in this game but that's for meta reasons. And we've had this discussion...

Where on earth did this come from? I didn't see me being mentioned anywhere in the last few pages before that.

I have not contributed to this game at all thus far and I don't recall ever playing with you so it's odd that you would be able to meta me.

Pointing out weird shenanigans 

 

 

 

I started doing a list based off of where I am with anecdotes, but I'm out of time for that as my roommate wants to go in a few minutes so here's this, which is more gut reads based on my memories and notes but it's better than nothing. Once I actually go through and look at the posts referenced in notes it'll be a little more precise and may shift a bit

 

Firebird

Sooh

Talya

Eldrick

Krak

Leelou

Tina

 

Alot

Thane

Taborline

 

Cass/Monstr

dice

Pizza

seph

Yates.2

AlannaLynn

 

Aj

Verbal

Hallia

 

 

I've not liked Pizza for a lot of the game, but a lot of it was weird feeling from his posts. There have been posts I've definitely not liked about Verbal, plus I feel like he's been in the middle of some thicker tangles, and so we could learn a bit more based on how he flips. I don't like either of them, but I feel like Verbal is the better option from where I stand. 

 

[Vote]Verbal[/Vote]

 

 

Blah silly new voting tags. Let's try this the classic way

 

Vote: Verbal

 

 

You're still 30 pages behind, yet voting anyway?

 

Does that sound like a pro-town thing to do? I'm practically a cleared townie here, and Pizza is still unknown.

 

But okay.

 

more anti-town AH play

Celebrimbor, maker of the rings of power.

 

I have an array of abilities which I can use at night, the first night I used a 2x scanning power on Thane and Krak, which is why I am defending them.

 

I can also do a 2x protect power, which I can use, or a 2x roleblock power. At the end of using those on three nights, I can return to using the scan, or any power that I did not use the previous night.

 

I do not have a red scan on Verbal, to be honest. I was saying that I did for reactions.

 

If I said that I did have a red scan on Verbal, I could get him lynched today, and people would follow me. Sorry, I don't, and if I were to try to be a hero and get Verbal lynched based on such a lie, and he were to be a villager, I'd have to be the lynch the next day.

 

There were better choices for the gladiator challenge, but I understand using it against someone on your own wagon.

This was day 2 during the gladiator challenge. Thane is mafia on Pizza's team. which leaves Alanna on WK's team with Seph

[Thane Vakarian]

.... no, i'm not... EP, don't mess this up now. 

[Gabriel Kross]

if we're still assuming it was initially 4v4vtown setup then I'm one mafia read short atm.

 

Currently rounding out the Pizza/Tina team is

AH

Thane

 

My reads for the other are:

Alanna

WK

Seph

[White Knight]

Sorry about Sooh, guys. I would have unvoted had I known it was close and was here - her later posts indeed looked like lost Town, but that all happened in the wee hours of the morning for me when I was asleep. 

 

I am Town. But I thought EP was Town too. And AH was not the only one to not trust Pizza. Read my posts. If Town had given any guidance as I asked when I subbed in we might not be in this mess, but sub-in games are hard on all - I'm subbed into two others in even worse circumstance. We're no closer to being unified here as Town, so looks to me like we've lost for sure. I have a full plate today (it's 6:30 AM for me), but will be back later. 

[Gabriel Kross]

.... no, i'm not... EP, don't mess this up now. 

even with 2 views there is no way he coiuld use them both in the same night. He chose Krak as target 1 and then stuck a teammate in as the second, it's a clever ploy if you're planning on playing the get ye behind me game as mafia. At some point krak was going to die anyways to give Pizza credibility.

[Thane Vakarian]

we'll see after the NA's who's around. That will be important into D5

 

EP, i'm telling you, i am not Pizza's teammate. Nor any other wolfteam for that matter. 

[Gabriel Kross]

we'll see after the NA's who's around. That will be important into D5

 

EP, i'm telling you, i am not Pizza's teammate. Nor any other wolfteam for that matter. 

we shall see, but you're small potatoes atm I want AH dead sparkly mafia is like sparkly vampires, just don't want it. Unless it's Alice, Alice is okay.

[Thane Vakarian]

i can get that you want dead wolves... i want the same thing. 

[Gabriel Kross]

anywho 630am time for bed.

[Thane Vakarian]

12:30PM, nearly time to go home

[Talya]

11.30 am nearly lunchtime. And only 3 hours from home time or earlier if I can.

 

That is a good point EP. Very rarely do you get both you goes at something at the same time. So Thane would have to be on his team.

[Thane Vakarian]

*headdesk*

 

Should i conclude that you and EP are on a wolf team, already pushing a mislynch early in the night for the next day? Because that is what it looks like. And i'll know for sure if i survive this night.

[Cory Caboose]

Go town etc.

[Talya]

Have I said anything about lynching you yet. No I haven't

That is very defensive considering we were looking at things logically. You can't respond to the fact that Pizza claimed day 2 and had two shots. Since when do you get two shots on the same night? You don't. So by attacking us you are showing your true colours.

[Talya]

And it is a stretch to say that you won't be dead because we want you as a lynch tomorrow. It's laughable. I'm happy to go with a Wk or Cass tomorrow maybe even Seth. or msybe even you. I have to go back and reassess.

[White Knight]

It's NOT me, Talya. I am Town. Who's vote should I steal for tomorrow?

[Talya]

You never did say why you wanted to vie Sooh. You just moved votes in a sneaky kinda way. Why didn't you put the on EP. You had voted him. But you swung it over and added two to Sooh.

[dicetosser1]

EP here is where Pizza started on you. It is Day 3.

 

 

 

I am sure, now that you mention it!  
 
And I'll go back to
 
Vote: Thane
 
I think I was right here, unless I see something that changes it.

 
All this does is make people look at Hallia with hairy eyeballs. It makes little sense given what has gone down so far this game.
 
This is the sort of thing villagers tend to do.
 
 

Ugh.  Catching up I forgot he was cleared through Pizza. >.<
 
The general lack of any real posting besides sniping.
 
Gonna have to really read through again.

 
 
Follows the same thought pattern, doesn't feel staged. Like, oh shoot! I forgot he was cleared, vote Somebody.
 
This reads true.
 
In post 2542 EP points out she didn't unvote.
 
I think that's actually slightly clearing for her.
 
 

I didn't realize I'd played that many games with you EP
 
Are you worried there's going to be a sudden train on him then, that you're so worried I didn't immediately unvote?

 
 
I like this reaction to EP's question.
 
 

nope I'm just noting that you say he's been cleared and yet you leave your vote on him, very untown-like thought process

 
 
Bull.
 
 

well if you consider I want to be rid of the exact same people as EP 1.0 that should tell you both something

 
 
Yes, it tells me you replaced in as a wolf.
 
That nothing changed seems to indicate that you are frozen in place. Villagers' reads should be dynamic, wolves' tend to be frozen.
 
It indicates you think you can cling on to your villager self from another role and blur the two together.
 
They are not the same, and Alot was a wolf alot of the time.
 
Vote: Eternal Phoenix
 
 
@ Andrej- would you vote to lynch Alotta Phoenix, or is that never on your radar today?