A Tale of Middle Earth: Game OVER

[Askthepizzaguy]

It is indeed a good morning. I feel quite productive today.

 

Welcome Andrej. I got several wolves in a pen for you right now.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Damn it Sooh....

 

Sooh probably on Team 3, not team 2. And on the same team as EP.

 

Sigh.

 

I wanted to believe you were town.

 

My heart is breaking now.

[Andrej]

Andrej, Leelou, you guys are my other top villagers at the moment.

 

Assume EP is scum, please help me find his partners.

 

You'll have literally all night to check for alternative ideas if I'm wrong. And if I am wrong, Hallia is likely scum, so analyze her as well, please. Look for partner interactions.

 

I need to get some actual rest, but I only work 3 hours or so tonight. I will be here.

 

I'm ready to put in the heavy lifting and solve it today. Today is the only day that matters, we lynch a wolf today or cross our fingers that a mafia war puts us back in the game.

 

Like I said last night, Alot's theorizing around the D1 events could be him trying to run interference for Seph when the idea that that speed hammer came to save him.

 

So Alot ---> Seph or even vice versa, but I think they are both probably wolves here.

 

14. Taborline White Knight—claimed 2x voting ability

 

When did this happen?

 

If Sooh is a villager, Dice is a wolf.

 

Actually, I think the reverse is way more likely here.

 

Did you see the Sooh ISO I did last night? I know you're sort of protecting her here, but I'm pretty doubtful she's a villager. She has posted next to nothing for the last two phases except that her Tina read was 'wrong'

 

 

so that's how you guys work...maybe us girlies she stick together...girl power and all that (except I'm sure some of them are wolfie), lol

I think men instinctively distrust other men.

 

I'll also say this, on my native forums there are no women players, so when I go to places like Giraffe or DM, and play with women, I guess I am a bit more chivalrous.

 

How cheesy of you, Pizza

 

So a lot of people have been looking at Sooh for focusing on dice, and you are looking at dice for focusing in on Sooh?

 

There's something interesting here...

 

Your tone here just creeps me out.

 

 

WK - Why do you think that Ah is not mafia...

 

And she posted as I typed...spooky...

I asked for someone, anyone among you to give a sub, a new member to DM, some game summary. None came. I haven't been able to read the whole game still, just large swathes of it. Aiel Heart's reads have been similar to my own, in what I've thus far read. She had an interesting lineup it seemed to me too. I'll wait to see if it changes now she's back => Pizza, Cass, Pho2, Andrej, AlannaLynn, Hallia. 

 

Pizza always merits caution. I have agreed on the scumminess of Pho2. It's Andrej who stands out to me, just in terms of the responses to me so far - an immediate lynch vote upon entering, going for nothing but low-hanging fruit in the game.

 

So it looks like we're dealing with competing Wolf teams who haven't seemed to be targeting each other? And maybe an Independent/Third Party or two? Regarding the TinaHel/Bombadil flip, I take it purple/violet means Mafia? 

 

Also, AielHear's list is indicating I've claimed a doublevote role? I guess it shouldn't be too hard to go back and check. Again, it would make it easier for me if one of you would simply tell me what Taborline said, 'cause describing it as a "2x voting ability" is a wee off, though maybe not by much. 

 

Where have I been going for low hanging fruit?

[Askthepizzaguy]

EP / Sooh

 

Dice / Seph / AH / (deceased Tina)

 

the rest:

 

Villagers plus remnants of the EP/Sooh team.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Remove EP, Sooh can go later.

 

Meanwhile, Dice and AH are total wolves with a side of Seph possibly.

 

Even them out and village wins. Don't give one team a great advantage.

[Talya]

Team 1 - I would be thinking : Tina, Cass, Dice and another? AH/Sooh

 

@WK - The double voter was Leelou, on the Gladiator vote, she activated it/it was activated which meant she had two votes and put them both on Verb. I have only ever seen a double voter as Mafia, but they were always hidden, people could guess, but Leelou's was out in the open from the off. This is reason I tend to think town, rahter than wolfie.

[Sooh]

Damn it Sooh....

 

Sooh probably on Team 3, not team 2. And on the same team as EP.

 

Sigh.

 

I wanted to believe you were town.

 

My heart is breaking now.

How many games have you showed me of yours now? And you expect me to take you at face value?... not in Mafia my dear... NEVER in mafia 

[Aiel Heart]

So there's no one willing to help out with a game summary. That's interesting. I don't like Andrej's response to my arrival at all - a Villager would have been eager to help me adjust to the game, not immediately swing at low-hanging fruit who is only being voted near as I can tell for not being here. Why vote me as soon as I sub in and show up? That's a wolf greet. But yeah, I could see where a wolf might be as eager to seem helpful as a Villager. It's somewhat surprising no one offered to help.

 

Without seeing more from Aiel in the interim, and with no other votes currently on Andrej, I'll hang with Pizza on [v]Eternal Phoenix2[/v].

 

What's the case on Tina, please.

Did I just read too much into that? I took it as a claim considering Leelou's place in this game which I'm sure WK is aware of at this point.

 

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[Andrej]

Remove EP, Sooh can go later.

 

Meanwhile, Dice and AH are total wolves with a side of Seph possibly.

 

Even them out and village wins. Don't give one team a great advantage.

 

Exactly, that's what I was saying the night before. Today we should be looking for a wolf not on Tina's team to hang.

[Aiel Heart]

And I unfortunately need to head to work now. Will finish up my ISOs and anecdotes this evening. 

[Askthepizzaguy]

Villagers need to do the testudo formation and rally behind me.

 

I'm attacking both wolf teams now, they can gang up on me. Scatter them by moving united.

[seph]

Ok, sorry if I missed it but I did. I have also said why dice is town twice now.

 

I saw you say if sooh is town dice is mafia, and then post dice voting record. I didn't see why you have dice over sooh, even if you don't have dice as town, Sooh looks more suspicious than him imo.

 

No where did I say ep was town. I was saying there is others I want to lynch before him.

[Andrej]

Team 1 - I would be thinking : Tina, Cass, Dice and another? AH/Sooh

 

@WK - The double voter was Leelou, on the Gladiator vote, she activated it/it was activated which meant she had two votes and put them both on Verb. I have only ever seen a double voter as Mafia, but they were always hidden, people could guess, but Leelou's was out in the open from the off. This is reason I tend to think town, rahter than wolfie.

 

Dice and Sooh are never teammates here.

 

I would say Sooh and Seph are also never teammates here, her suspicion on him reads natural in its progression but sadly this game it doesn't make her not a wolf.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Remember the wolf teams only need to put 8 votes on me today. BE VERY CAREFUL WHERE YOU VOTE, THE HAMMER IS DANGEROUS TO VILLAGE

 

BE VERY CAREFUL DO NOT ALLOW THEM TO MAJ ME

[Andrej]

[v]Alot of Phoenix[/v]

[Talya]

 

 

 

so that's how you guys work...maybe us girlies she stick together...girl power and all that (except I'm sure some of them are wolfie), lol

I think men instinctively distrust other men.

 

I'll also say this, on my native forums there are no women players, so when I go to places like Giraffe or DM, and play with women, I guess I am a bit more chivalrous.

 

How cheesy of you, Pizza

 

 

Oh AJ...you have a lot to learn about women, we like chivalrous

[Andrej]

Remember the wolf teams only need to put 8 votes on me today. BE VERY CAREFUL WHERE YOU VOTE, THE HAMMER IS DANGEROUS TO VILLAGE

 

BE VERY CAREFUL DO NOT ALLOW THEM TO MAJ ME

 

Dude, I think you're good?

[Andrej]

Gotta run for my lab final, I'll be back in a bit.

[Askthepizzaguy]

If wolf teams work together to cause a MAJ village loses.

 

You must all vote united today. Vote with town, stick to 2 main wagons, both wolves, or village loses 100 percent of the time.

[Talya]

 

Team 1 - I would be thinking : Tina, Cass, Dice and another? AH/Sooh

 

@WK - The double voter was Leelou, on the Gladiator vote, she activated it/it was activated which meant she had two votes and put them both on Verb. I have only ever seen a double voter as Mafia, but they were always hidden, people could guess, but Leelou's was out in the open from the off. This is reason I tend to think town, rahter than wolfie.

 

Dice and Sooh are never teammates here.

 

I would say Sooh and Seph are also never teammates here, her suspicion on him reads natural in its progression but sadly this game it doesn't make her not a wolf.

 

 

then AH on that team, that would be Sooh, EP, Seth and WK/Hallia

[Askthepizzaguy]

 

Remember the wolf teams only need to put 8 votes on me today. BE VERY CAREFUL WHERE YOU VOTE, THE HAMMER IS DANGEROUS TO VILLAGE

 

BE VERY CAREFUL DO NOT ALLOW THEM TO MAJ ME

 

Dude, I think you're good?

 

No no no, if wolf teams are 4 and 3 right now all it takes is one silly villager.

 

And, the way I'm accusing, if I accuse a villager and one accuses me back, that could be the end of the game.

 

Any villager I am accusing right now needs to rein in their OMGUS instinct or we lose today.

 

I can't be 100 percent accurate, I wasn't most of the game, I need to be able to point today and not get pointed back.

 

3+4 votes plus any villager mistake is end of game for village.

 

We have to be careful!

[White Knight]

Blue--confirmed dead town

Green--town claim

Purple--Confirmed dead Mafia (#1?)

Black--nothing yet

 

 

14. Taborline White Knight—claimed 2x voting ability

 

This is what I was reading about a Taborline claim.

[seph]

I could be just tripping over a ton of scums right now, but posts like that, Seph, make villagers indistinguishable from wolves.Please put more into your thinking and reasoning than what you just did. I had you as pretty darn villagery all game until that very post.Jebus on a pogo stick that was bad.

Wasn't it you that said putting people down is scummy? Just because I may not be as intelligent as you, does not make my posts bad.

A second ago was the first time you even mentioned sooh in a scum team.

I think it is a good question to ask why you want a dice ep wagon over sooh.

[Talya]

I'll go back to my vote [v]Alotta EP[/v]

[Sooh]

 

 

Remember the wolf teams only need to put 8 votes on me today. BE VERY CAREFUL WHERE YOU VOTE, THE HAMMER IS DANGEROUS TO VILLAGE

 

BE VERY CAREFUL DO NOT ALLOW THEM TO MAJ ME

 

Dude, I think you're good?

 

No no no, if wolf teams are 4 and 3 right now all it takes is one silly villager.

 

And, the way I'm accusing, if I accuse a villager and one accuses me back, that could be the end of the game.

 

Any villager I am accusing right now needs to rein in their OMGUS instinct or we lose today.

 

I can't be 100 percent accurate, I wasn't most of the game, I need to be able to point today and not get pointed back.

 

3+4 votes plus any villager mistake is end of game for village.

 

We have to be careful!

 

How do you know wolf teams are 4 and 3? I would have thought that was a lot for a game this size?

 

Also I'm not a wolf.. just a not so good villager atm...