A Tale of Middle Earth: Game OVER

[Askthepizzaguy]

My bias for*

 

(might make more sense now.)

[Askthepizzaguy]

If Sooh is a villager, Dice is a wolf.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I don't know what Dice has done all game except for voting for Sooh, but I haven't been paying close attention.

 

It's just that my memory is really selective, if he had done anything memorable at all, it would be clicking more. All I know is he wants sooh dead or wants to distance from sooh.

 

That's all I know about Dice.

[Talya]

so that's how you guys work...maybe us girlies she stick together...girl power and all that (except I'm sure some of them are wolfie), lol

[Talya]

This looks like an attempt to look town.

Also I'm not gonna die tonight because mafia doesn't want to prove me town, giving my list that much more weight.

 

Or because you are mafia and chances are you are not going to die.

[Askthepizzaguy]

 

 

Official Vote Count Three:

 

Pizzaguy(1/13): AJ

AJ (1/13): Laine

Talya (1/13): Dice

Verbal (1/13): Tina

EP (1/13): Seph

Sooh (2/14): Hally, Zander

Seph (1/13): EP

Zander (1/13): Sili

 

Not Voting (15/24):

Alot, Alanna, John Snow, Thane, Verbal, Talya, Eldrick, Leelou, Krak, Taborline, Tress, Yates, Batman & Cassowary, Pizzaguy, Sooh

Official Vote Count Seven:

 

 

Pizza (1/13): Eldrick

Sooh (2/13): Hallia, Zander

Seph (2/13): EP, Leelou

Tina (1/13): Dice

Yates (2/13): Sooh, AJ

Eldrick (1/13): Pizza

Alot (1/13): Yates

 

 

Not Voting (14/24):

Alot, Alanna, John Snow, Thane, Verbal, Talya, Krak, Taborline, Tress, Batassery, Laine, Tina, Sili, Seph

 

 

With 24 alive, it's 13 to lynch!

Official Vote Count Nine:

 

 

Pizza (1/13): Eldrick

Yates (2/13): AJ, Leelou

Eldrick (1/13): Pizza

Alot (1/13): Yates

Sili (1/13): Talya

Seph (2/13): Sooh, EP

 

Not Voting (16/24):

Alot, Alanna, John Snow, Thane, Krak, Taborline, Tress, Batassery, Laine, Tina, Sili, Seph, Dice, Zander, Verb, Hally

 

 

With 24 alive, it's 13 to lynch! Deadline is 12:15 AM EST on Wednesday, the 13th.

Official Vote Count Ten:

 

 

Pizza (1/13): Eldrick

Yates (3/13): AJ, Leelou, Sili

Eldrick (1/13): Pizza

Alot (1/13): Yates

Hally (1/13): Talya

Seph (2/13): Sooh, EP

 

Not Voting (15/24):

Alot, Alanna, John Snow, Thane, Krak, Taborline, Tress, Batassery, Laine, Tina, Seph, Dice, Zander, Verb, Hally

 

 

With 24 alive, it's 13 to lynch! Deadline is 12:15 AM EST on Wednesday, the 13th.

Official Vote Count Four:

 

AndreJ(1/11): Krak

Sooh (2/11): Hallia, Dice

Talya (1/11): Pizza

Hallia (1/11): Alannalynn

Krak (3/11): Talya, Leelou, AndreJ

Verb (1/11): Yates

Leelou (1/11): Eternal Phoenix

 

Not Voting (11/20):

Sooh, Aiel Heart, Thane, Verb, Taborline, Seph, Tina, Batassery, Eldrick, Alot

 

With 20 alive it takes 11 to lynch.

Official Vote Count Seven:

 

AndreJ(1/11): Krak

Sooh (1/11): Dice

Krak (3/11): Talya, Leelou, AndreJ

Verb (4/11): Eternal Phoenix, Alannalynn, Pizza, TinaHel

Yates (1/11): Eldrick

Thane (4/11): Hally, Yates, Thane, Leelou

Dice (1/11): Sooh

 

Not Voting (6/20):

Aiel Heart, Verb, Taborline, Seph, Batassery, Alot

 

With 20 alive it takes 11 to lynch.

Official Vote Count Two:

 

Hallia (2/9): Yates, TinaHel

TinaHel (1/9): Eternal Phoenix

Laine (1/9): Leelou

Dicetosser1 (1/9): Sooh

Sooh (2/9): Dicetosser1, Hallia

Taborline (3/9): AndreJ, Thane, Eternal Phoenix

Eternal Phoenix (1/9): Pizza

 

Not Voting (7/17):

, Aiel Heart, Krak, Taborline, Alannalynn, Seph, Cass, Talya

 

With 17 alive it takes 9 to lynch. Deadline is at 12:15 PM on May 19th, 2015.

Had to really scour to make sure I got this right. My ctrl + f isn't working for some reason. Sorry if it's off, I'm counting the votes thus:

 

Official Vote Count

 

Hallia (2/9): Seph, Laine

Dicetosser1 (1/9): Sooh

White Knight (1/9): Eternal Phoenix

Eternal Phoenix (4/9): Pizza, WK, Tina, Cass

TinaHel (7/9): Leelou, Thane, Dice, AJ, Yates, Hallia, Talya

 

Not Voting (2/17):

Aiel Heart, Krak

 

With 17 alive it takes 9 to lynch. Deadline is at 12:15 PM on May 19th, 2015.

 

Scene incoming

 

 

So vote Talya, vote Tina, unvote.

 

Sooh all day.

 

Then jump on Tina when it looks like she's going down.

 

Then Sooh again.

 

Not really reading this as a villagery vote record from Dice. Looks like he's attempting to avoid leaving a vote record, actually.

[Askthepizzaguy]

so that's how you guys work...maybe us girlies she stick together...girl power and all that (except I'm sure some of them are wolfie), lol

I think men instinctively distrust other men.

 

I'll also say this, on my native forums there are no women players, so when I go to places like Giraffe or DM, and play with women, I guess I am a bit more chivalrous.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Hint to wolves: Villagers change their reads sometimes.

 

Lacking in your game this game, that's why you stick out like sore thumbs.

[Aiel Heart]

So a lot of people have been looking at Sooh for focusing on dice, and you are looking at dice for focusing in on Sooh?

 

There's something interesting here...

[Askthepizzaguy]

Dicetosser versus Alotta Phoenix wagons today, imo.

 

No one else. Village only has so many votes to spread around.

[Talya]

EP - Votes Tab, because not participating is the most anti town thing in this game. voting an active was always used for getting them to post. I think actually trying to get them lynched means that if they are they leave little information for the game to analyse, hardly any votes etc, so I really don't agree with this reasoning, let mafia have them, it may stop them getting anyone useful. But if mafia think they are good for a lynch like this then maybe they won't.

[Askthepizzaguy]

So a lot of people have been looking at Sooh for focusing on dice, and you are looking at dice for focusing in on Sooh?

 

There's something interesting here...

I have a lot of conversations and gained experience in a short time to read sooh off of. I don't know dice that well.

 

I also think this particular vote pattern is particularly wolfy. Either one is a wolf or both, and I always lean dice is the wolf here.

 

The footprint is tiny. Distancing from Tina, possibly, then unvote d1. Then always on sooh except when gaining credit for Tina going down.

 

That's a scumprint. There's little explanation for that print except for being a wolf.

[Talya]

I have a great strategy, lynch me end day, I'll be done, and town can ignore everything I said even though I'm likely right on the majority of my reads. I can be done with this game, and re-retire from playing mafia.

 

Didn't like this post neither, very few people will go with someone because they say this.

[Askthepizzaguy]

lol Talya I think you're pointing out all his posts today that I pointed out yesterday.

 

He is obvious, isn't he? Why wasn't he getting votes yesterday if I was wrong?

 

Hint: Can't allow Askthepizzaguy the probably protected village doc/cop/blocker to get his suspects down. That is terrible for scums.

[seph]

Why dice over sooh pizza?If you want those wagons I would vote ep.

I believe dice is town so I won't be casting my vote there.

I feel better about ep from his frustration posts, it moved him up on the tbl list, but not out of it.

I am willing to wait until morning, but I wanted to let you know where I stood.

[Askthepizzaguy]

If I'm right, of course. If I'm wrong there should have been almost no resistance to voting him. Because hey, E-Z pass for scums to not be lynched yesterday.

 

Derpa derpa doo.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Why dice over sooh pizza?If you want those wagons I would vote ep.

I believe dice is town so I won't be casting my vote there.

I feel better about ep from his frustration posts, it moved him up on the tbl list, but not out of it.

I am willing to wait until morning, but I wanted to let you know where I stood.

Bad post, Seph.

 

I already said why dice, you're not paying attention.

 

You didn't say why you believe dice is town.

 

EP's posts are howling posts, you shouldn't feel he's a villager based on his terribly wolfy game since replacing in.

 

Where you stand is on shaky ground and I'm considering you next for my copping.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I could be just tripping over a ton of scums right now, but posts like that, Seph, make villagers indistinguishable from wolves.

 

Please put more into your thinking and reasoning than what you just did. I had you as pretty darn villagery all game until that very post.

 

Jebus on a pogo stick that was bad.

[Aiel Heart]

Based on the ISOs I just did of dice and Sooh, Sooh has been far more preoccupied with dice than he has been with her. He's actually been spreading his votes around, looking at cases and trying to make cases. Sooh's been floundering a lot. I've attributed this to being new and all of that, but that's becoming less and less convincing for me. 

 

 

You, Sir Pizza, are becoming scummier and scummier to me 

[Askthepizzaguy]

Based on the ISOs I just did of dice and Sooh, Sooh has been far more preoccupied with dice than he has been with her. He's actually been spreading his votes around, looking at cases and trying to make cases. Sooh's been floundering a lot. I've attributed this to being new and all of that, but that's becoming less and less convincing for me. 

 

 

You, Sir Pizza, are becoming scummier and scummier to me

Okay, you are definitely not a villager, thanks for playing.

 

Your leans list is nothing but villagers in a game where there's a ton of wolves, probably.

 

So now I have:

 

Team 1: Tina, Dice, Aiel Heart, Seph?

 

Team 2: Askthepizzaguy, Sooh, Leelou, Andrej, Talya, Thane, Krak

 

Team 3: Fill in the blanks, could be a fun game.

[Askthepizzaguy]

EP on Team 1 or Team 3 right now? Never team 2.

[White Knight]

WK - Why do you think that Ah is not mafia...

 

And she posted as I typed...spooky...

I asked for someone, anyone among you to give a sub, a new member to DM, some game summary. None came. I haven't been able to read the whole game still, just large swathes of it. Aiel Heart's reads have been similar to my own, in what I've thus far read. She had an interesting lineup it seemed to me too. I'll wait to see if it changes now she's back => Pizza, Cass, Pho2, Andrej, AlannaLynn, Hallia. 

 

Pizza always merits caution. I have agreed on the scumminess of Pho2. It's Andrej who stands out to me, just in terms of the responses to me so far - an immediate lynch vote upon entering, going for nothing but low-hanging fruit in the game.

 

So it looks like we're dealing with competing Wolf teams who haven't seemed to be targeting each other? And maybe an Independent/Third Party or two? Regarding the TinaHel/Bombadil flip, I take it purple/violet means Mafia? 

 

Also, AielHear's list is indicating I've claimed a doublevote role? I guess it shouldn't be too hard to go back and check. Again, it would make it easier for me if one of you would simply tell me what Taborline said, 'cause describing it as a "2x voting ability" is a wee off, though maybe not by much. 

[Talya]

 

Regardless if you come back as town or mafia I don't expect you to change any reads.

I have you as the least of my suspects as I want to see what alot of Phoenix will do, as alot did not post that much.

 

 

Also alot of Phoenix is better than 2.0 I like it.

let's put it this way, if I had replaced in as mafia I would have subtly removed anyone that were actually on that team from my list. Since I'm still advocating my list 100% you can be sure that that is not the case. However, like I said I do want to pull up what Alot had to say see if there were any useable reads there. I'll get to that after a quick smoke.

 

 

Would you really tell us what you would if mafia. Of course that must mean you are town. Honestly, if you came back as mafia you would stick to the same list (it was a only a couple hours) and maybe change them over time as you can evidence why you change your list. Or, maybe none of your team are on the list. This again looks like you are pushing so hard to sound town, that it doesn't quite work.

[Andrej]

Good morning.

[Sooh]

Hally - I want to believe she is town based on her play and her claim. Nobody making cases against her has managed to convince me other wise, so for now she's town to me.

 

EP 2.0 - I'm really not sure where to place him. I want to believe he is town, and a whole lot of what he has posted lately reads like frustrated town. Still not entirely convinced, null for now.

 

Heart - She had a strange vote during her catch up period, besides that I have nothing to clear her or read her scummy.

 

Dice - I still don't believe him to be Town.

 

Thane - I really have no idea. Assuming Pizza's claim is for real I guess he's town. He has also not been overly scummy this game, so for now I'll leave him as Town.

 

Talya - I think her posts look good and townish. She makes reads and points out a great deal of things in the game. I know I called you wolfy before, but I just read your ISO and don't think so any more. 

 

Leelou - God I hope you're town with your double vote. That's all I can say... You've been posting like a villager all game as far as I can see, though I did tinfoil on you a little to begin with. 

 

Krak - Depending on Pizza's claim. No posts since the 13th, so that's a week with no activity... I'll leave him as a null read, because I'm not sure I believe Pizza's claim.

 

White Knight - There was null there until Taborline quit and he came in. I don't understand why he questions everyone believing Pizza's claim and then follows Pizza on his vote. 

 

AJ - Going with my gut on you. Please be town....

 

Alannalynn - I feel like you're just wanting to twist my every word this game. I've tried to explain my meta-read on Dice to you, but you seem to not want to accept that it's a meta read. I don't know if you're defending him or just want to disagree with me for some reason, but it's making you look shady to me. 

 

Seph - Not doing what I'm used to him doing, which is speculating, posting a lot, going back to find things to point out. I read you scummy for that this game. 

 

Cass - Doesn't read to me like scummy Cass has done before, but then again it's hard to tell. I'll keep her null.

 

Pizza - MASSIVE claim. Then the whole EP/Pizza back and forth. I have seen Pizza do similar distancing before, so I wouldn't be surprised. If Pizza fake claimed I would think that Krak might be on his scum team, while Thane isn't. That would also make Thane town. 

Yes, I'm tinfoiling here...

 

Again far too few scum reads probably, but that's where I stand.