A Tale of Middle Earth: Game OVER

[Andrej]

 

 

 

Wow, probably literally everyone off that wagon is a wolf in one way or another.

 

1. Lol #gamesolve

 

I'm sure there are some on Tina's wagon as well. 

 

Like who? I thought about this as well but I might gamble that was a clean wagon, as rare as they come.

 

I believe Hallia's claim. Yates I have been a little suspicious of lately but the way he voted after the claim feels sort of villagery to me. Talya was on late and I'm sort of mixed on her but I wouldn't be like surprised if she's town after some of her later work she did D3.

 

You're a vetted DV. I think Dice is town. Thane is cleared*

 

At least Talya. 

 

Again, maybe.

 

There are certainly better place to go first, imo.

 

 

Your list is getting kind of stale, EP.

 

Referring back to it constantly reads fake, especially since you weren't voting your next up suspect in Tina who just flipped wolf.

 

Keep spinning your wheels though.

 

I haven't been on? I voted Taborline who was also on my list I said I'd go for anyone on my list. I voted Taborline because they were being the most anti-town by having 0 posts of game content

 

If you say so. I noted that you did vote Tina briefly after Hallia's claim, but it wasn't long before you swapped over to Taborline and then remained there for the rest of the phase. What I find more important was Tina's hesitance in voting you before the DL as an act of self-preservation. Not sure what it means yet but it's definitely something I will be keeping in mind moving forward.

 

 

 

 

 

 

I fully expect Pizza to be protected tonight. Either by himself, or by some other means. Will the scum teams be ballsy enough to kill one of his peeks, and prove that he is telling the truth?

That actually doesn't prove anything to be honest look at it this way:

Pizza lies his peeks could be town, but could also be mafia

Pizza tells the truth then they are town

So just because a "confirmed" townie is killed doesn't mean Pizza is cleared

 

Odds are I'm the likely target tonight I've been the only truely confirmed town in this game in the morning Halia and Tina need to be looked at hard. One if not both are likely mafia. Heart is possibly mafia, maybe Talya as well. Still don't trust Leelou and Sooh has been coasting since Yates called her out. so in list format the people you should start hammering down on are as follows:

 

Hallia

Tina

Heart

Talya

Leelou

Sooh

Tabesomething? (added her in because she's posted so little content I don't even know what her name is.

 

Here's a good place to start, I do so like the list that this individual so graciously provided.

 

just remove Hallia for now

 

 

 

Updated List

 

Alannalynn

Tina lynched mafia

Heart

Talya

Sooh

WK

Seph

 

For the benefit of the doubt I'm going to move Leelou from my list and put her in null. In her spot I'm going to go back to a gut feeling I had from day 1 and put Seph in.

 

Okay. Reasons - for every single one. And don't tell me it's because your previously slot was suspicious of them. The part that I find interesting here is that you have suddenly moved Laine up to your #1 above your other mafia reads (which according to you are all perfect). This to me looks like you're trying to push someone you think is from a different team before your buddies. 

 

At last we have got one!

 

Pizza - what result did you get from your views. I don't want specifics, but did you get their Role, Their character, their alignment?

 

I know you said maybe got this or that, so lets be specific.

 

I'm still not keen on Hally, need to start looking at Cass and Ah and I include EP on that.

 

They are probably all scum. It's just a matter of what order to lynch them in

 

 

 

take a look at my list

 

Why do you have a dead scum in your list?

 

To prove he had a good read, obviously.

 

Pretty sure that was my read, ftr. I told you that screw up was really, really bad.

 

So.. I was dead wrong on Tina. Now I know what to look for with her. Every time I read her as scum she ends up being town, and every time I read her as being town she ends up being scum. This is development...

 

Mmmmmmhm.

[dicetosser1]

Talya you might wanna consider something. You know how i said lynch Sooh and i think I get a twofer? Guess who the twofer is?? Cass.

[Leelou]

Ok I won't mention it anymore, sorry I offended you.

 

How does that make me mafia? I've never seen double voting as a mafia role. And if she were scum, I'm pretty sure she wouldn't show us her power like she did. I need to go back and look but I'm not sure she was under any heat? I don't have note with me atm

I wasn't, I was trying to save Verb at the last minute. But since there weren't any vote counts and Tina pushed Verbal it didn't work.

[Gabriel Kross]

@AJ I have no priority in my list, the way you are saying that I have a priority is completely missreading how I play. I don't list people in a priority order

[Andrej]

 

All of Tina's reads lists (mostly for my reference later): 

 

I´m on page 43 and I´m not sure that I will be able to read much more. I´ve had a bad day and I fear that I might get a migrain. 

 

Some thoughts:

 

* I didn´t comment on Cory´s clearing me to clear myself. It was just a statement. Cory is an expert at reading me. Now, he is good as clearing me when he is mafia as well so it doesn´t tell me anything about Sooh´s alignment. And that´s enough about Cory. I will focus on Sooh, since she is the one playing the game. Can´t say that I have a read on her yet. I feel that she hasn´t been involved much.

 

* It´s always nice to have someone backing me up. At the same time it makes me suspicious. I´m not sure that I´m suspicious of Yates for defending me. It´s more that he brings back the focus on me and Zander even though it´s over. I unvoted after EP´s soft claim. AJ unvoted me. So why does Yates bring it up over and over? From memory, this is what Yates does when he is mafia. Trying to direct the conversation to something he wants to talk about. I need to read more tomorrow to see if I can get a better read of him. 

 

* AJ and Leelou looks townie. AJ is pointing out things that others (mainly Yates) is not doing. That is not something that I think of much. I react more to what people are doing. It shows that he wants to go deeper. I liked Leelou´s list. Even if it´s not something definitive, it shows that she is willing to show her thoughts. I see this as town Leelou. 

 

* I was focused on Zander so I´m kind of lost at who I think is mafia. (Yates might be.) I need to read more tomorrow. 

 

 

I´ll try to read the last pages and we´ll see if I manage to do so.

 

 

I´ve again read the thread a little now and then during the day on my phone. This is the first time that I have computer access. I really need a day where I can sit down and re-read stuff. Reading a little here and a little there is just confusing. Here are some random thoughts or things that caught my eye.

 

1. Hally - it felt weird that she jumped in to the game to vote someone when she hadn´t read up. Does she usually do that? It looked pretty much like a bandwagon vote. 

2. Sooh - I still don´t have a clue. She has posted some but nothing has stuck in my mind. She is one of those that I would like to iso. Others have mentioned her. If anyone would like to restate why, I wiould be grateful. 
3. Alot - haven´t been here alot. 
4. Alanna Aiel Heart - Welcome! She hasn´t posted anything so far. 
5. Dice - where is he? He voted me yesterday and then unvoted when others did. That is all that I can remember. Nr 2 to iso.
6. John Snow Yates 2.0 - So Yates 1.0 was apparently town. That doesn´t say much about Yates 2.0. I´ve nothing to say about  the new Yates. 
7. Thane - I really understand why you are frustrated, Thane. It´s tough to keep up with a big game like this. Tells me nothing about his alignment. It looks very easy to vote him. 
8. Verbal - yesterday I got the feeling that he was protecting Yates. I have seen Verbal do that with mafia buddies before. Take the lead (vocally) in voting someone. He gets people to join but when he then find reasons to unvote people follow him on that too and then the other person are sort of cleard. It´s hard for me to explain more than that. Anyway, now Yates turned up town so it´s obvious that Verbal didn´t try to save him because they are mafia together. I´m not sure about him though. There is something, and I don´t think it´s just my usual suspicion that I have every game. Leelou looks townie to me and he thinks she is mafia. Maybe that is why? Idk.
9. Talya - I don´t agree with her suspicions of Sili. But she looks townish. 
10. Eldrick - I have no clue. I know people have talked to and about him but maybe that was when I was focused on Zander? 
11. Leelou - I have a strong feeling that she is town. She puts down a lot of work in a way that I´m not used to seeing when she is mafia. Much more present in the thread. 
12. Sili - had a town read on him from the start and it hasn´t changed. 
13. Krak - ehm... yeh, that´s all I´ve got. 
14. Taborline - haven´t seen anything from her. 
15. Andrej - I had a town read on him yesterday. I still haven´t seen anything obviously mafia. Others seems to have. Please tell me why you think he is mafia?
16. Alannalynn - she has been active but I don´t remember anything she has said except for D1 spam. That could be because I just don´t remember or because she hasn´t said much. Iso object.
17. Tress - Tulkas, Town Vanilla 
18. Zander - Elu Thingol, Town Mason 
19. seph - no idea. 
20. Eternal Phoenix - mason, town. 
21. TinaHel
22. Yates - Faramir, Town Forensic Investigator
23. Cass/Monstr - again, don´t remember much from Cass. Monstr has complained once again that he doesn´t want to play. I think he has done so in every game I have played with him. If you are feeling bad, Monstr, the you should probably take a mafia break. There was some post on D1 that I felt good about him but I can´t remember what. 

24. Pizzaguy - felt very self centred on D1. 

 

Okay, as you see - no actual reads, more loose thoughts or what I remember without going back. I will go back to this post tomorrow and use it as a base for isoing. I really hope I will, anyway. I´m home with my daughter and it depends on what she wants to do.

 

Sorry, this will be a quick post since I´m soon going to bed. I´m working late tomorrow but I think I should be able to be here for at least an hour tomorrow night. 

 

No order within the groups. 

 

Town:

 

Leelou - I had a townie feeling from how she posted on d1. I started to get a little worried about her yesterday but I liked that she didn´t fear to openly doubble vote on the least popular option. 

 

Talya - She makes posts that I don´t always agree with (for example about Sili) but that I can understand. Her recent posts all looks good. It looks to me like she is trying her best to scumhunt. 

 

Thane - Because of Pizza´s claim but also because of the selfvote. I have seen him selfvote before when he is frustrated. I don´t think he would do that as mafia. 

 

Pizza - Only because of the claim. I have not have time to re-read his posts like I said I should. I had him in my suspicious list before but for now I will go with the claim.

 

Krak - He is only here because of Pizza´s claim. Where is he? 

 

 

Light town:

 

Laine - I didn´t find much scummy from her when I iso´d her posts. 

 

 

In the middle:

 

Sooh - She is probably not mafia with Dice. That´s the only thing I can say for sure about her right now. 

 

AH - Has barely posted.

 

Yates 2.0 - I have no idea. Just yoloing D2. 

 

Seph - Can´t remember anything of him. 

 

Cass - The same goes for Cass. I need to read more. 

 

 

Light mafia:

 

AJ - I had a strong town feeling from him on D1 but I have liked him less since then. I feel like he was the looser in the back and forth with Talya. I also found it weird that he didn´t want the discussion during the gladiator stuff and he has defended Hallia, who is in my mafia list. The only reason that he is not further down is because I feel that I need to read more and get updated about his posting. I agree with others posting about him but want to see it for myself. 

 

EP 2.0 - I didn´t get a good feeling from Alot yesterday. Will have to re-read to remember why. Maybe it was because he posted so little? Unsure. 

 

 

Mafia:

 

Dice - See my earlier posts. 

 

Hally - She voted without reading up on D1, a vote that looked like a clear bandwagon vote. Didn´t like the voting yesterday or today either. Talya did a good iso of her that I agree with. 

 

Taborline - Has been almost invisible the whole game. Had a bad reason for voting Verbal before the gladiator stuff. (Something like he didn´t take the preassure good or something like that.) 

 

 

[v] Hallia [/v]

 

 

 

I'm guessing Sooh is probably her most likely partner in this scenario. Sooh has kept Tina firmly as a town read pretty much all game (remember the Cory is the best at reading Tina thing? Yeah.) and as you can see Tina is keeping Sooh in her 'unknown' range, not really giving an opinion on her one way or another.

 

Tina doesn't strike me as the type to really hard clear or bus her teammates, so I might be willing to say that no one in her bottom 3 are teammates with her. This doesn't make WK not a wolf, because I think there's a chance he is, but I don't think Hallia and Dice are with Tina in this situation. Both of them I also happen to think are town, so there's that.

 

I agree with what Yates said about her town reads, seems like she was trying to buddy Leelou/Talya so at the very least they aren't on Tina's team. I have a strong feeling both of those slots are town too. Which leaves a bunch of question marks in her other groups.

 

7 players between Laine, Sooh, AH, Yates, Seph, Cass, EP.2 and me.

 

The strongest connections I see currently are with Sooh and EP.2, but it's important to note who were voting on Tina's counter wagons. Both Laine and Seph look very sketchy for their Hallia votes, who behind WK was the closest thing to lynch.

[Andrej]

Talya you might wanna consider something. You know how i said lynch Sooh and i think I get a twofer? Guess who the twofer is?? Cass.

 

What do you mean? I get that you're saying you think they're teammates here, but how?

[seph]

Ok so I have been getting bad vibes from sooh here lately, and still am.
I isod tina, and i saw that sooh looks likely to be her partner.
I isod sooh and found these 
 

 

 

I am starting to think sooh/tina are scum team possible hallia.

 

 

 

**snip**

 

I don´t have any oppinion at all of Sooh right now. 

 

Cory wants me to tell you that he knows you're town so this is par for the course...

 

and he put one of these 

 

pretty sure tina said cory can read her correctly. She also calls tina town shortly before the lynch.

 

 

Look. I'm TRYING to help town the best way I can, which is by pointing out people I find scummy. I'm aware that a bunch of my reads haven't changed, but that's because I still see people the same way. I'll try to do a better job of explaining myself, but I can't promise grand multiquote posts and stuff, because I have simply too much to do IRL at the moment. 

 

I'm not convinced Hallia is scum, but I'm willing to be talked into it. Same with Heart or Taborline. Tina I'm happy with as Town. 

 

 

 

 

POOTALOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT

 

 

Vote: Sooh

 

 

Tell your mentor I love him 

My mentor says he loves you back. 

 

Also I think you're pretty awesome too!

 

 

I tried doing this previously, but it didn't work... I'll give it a shot one more time..

 

[unvote]

 

this post was actually above the top quote about hallia.

[Andrej]

@AJ I have no priority in my list, the way you are saying that I have a priority is completely missreading how I play. I don't list people in a priority order

 

It seems that way to me when you have a dead wolf on your old list but were voting someone else when they were lynched.

[Leelou]

I'm going to be over here, on my town island.

[Leelou]

I'll update my list after I get home.

[Gabriel Kross]

 

@AJ I have no priority in my list, the way you are saying that I have a priority is completely missreading how I play. I don't list people in a priority order

 

It seems that way to me when you have a dead wolf on your old list but were voting someone else when they were lynched.

 

I've also stated that I was willing to vote anyone on my list.

[Andrej]

I'm going to be over here, on my town island.

 

I'll swing by later with dinner?

[Leelou]

 

 

I'm going to be over here, on my town island.

I'll swing by later with dinner?

Scallops and asparagus?

[Andrej]

 

 

@AJ I have no priority in my list, the way you are saying that I have a priority is completely missreading how I play. I don't list people in a priority order

 

It seems that way to me when you have a dead wolf on your old list but were voting someone else when they were lynched.

 

I've also stated that I was willing to vote anyone on my list.

 

Do your work, EP.

 

Find the other wolf team, maybe we'll lynch them before you guys.

[Gabriel Kross]

 

 

 

@AJ I have no priority in my list, the way you are saying that I have a priority is completely missreading how I play. I don't list people in a priority order

 

It seems that way to me when you have a dead wolf on your old list but were voting someone else when they were lynched.

 

I've also stated that I was willing to vote anyone on my list.

 

Do your work, EP.

 

Find the other wolf team, maybe we'll lynch them before you guys.

 

sigh, w/e man I'm not mafia

[Andrej]

 

 

I'm going to be over here, on my town island.

I'll swing by later with dinner?

Scallops and asparagus?

 

Oh, I can definitely do that.

 

Sauvignon Blanc?

[Leelou]

 

 

 

 

I'm going to be over here, on my town island.

I'll swing by later with dinner?

Scallops and asparagus?

Oh, I can definitely do that.

 

Sauvignon Blanc?

Mm yes please.

[Andrej]

[Yates]

Oh yeah? Well... your pee is going to stink.

[Gabriel Kross]

Oh yeah? Well... your pee is going to stink.

this

[Leelou]

Town
Dice 
John Snow Yates 2.0 
Thane* pending per Pizza's role 
Hally

 

Pizzaguy* pending more info 
Krak* pending per Pizza's role

Andrej

Scummy
Talya 
Alanna Aiel Heart
seph - mentored by Kaylee 

Taborline White Knight
Alot Eternal Phoenix 2.0
Sooh - mentored by Corn

Cass/Monstr - Batassery

Alannalynn

 
Deceased
Yates - Faramir, Town Forensic Investigator Lynched Day One
Tress - Tulkas, Town Vanilla Killed Night Two
Zander - Elu Thingol, Town Mason Killed Night Two
Sili - Beren, Town Vanilla Modkilled Day Two
Verbal - Beorn, Town 2x Gladiator Lynched Day Two
Eldrick - Tar Atanamir, Town Vanilla Killed Night Two
Eternal Phoenix - Finwe, Town Mason Killed Night Two
TinaHel - Tom Bombadil, Fatherless Mafia Nexus Lynched Day Three

[dicetosser1]

AJ

 

Cass is because  A) She's ducking me. B) She and Tina? I think were the ones Sooh asked for help reading me despite people like you and Yates being around and C) generally she is not helping Town and D) she came in late lynch on Tina when tina was the obvious lynch and yet voted EP

[White Knight]

Leeloominaï Lekatariba Lamina-Tchaï Ekbat De Sebat, Taborline was absent, not scummy Ooga-Chaka, girl, your words strike to my heart - they're like a hook, deep inside of me, full of feelings and stuff. 

[White Knight]

AJ

 

Cass is because  A) She's ducking me. B) She and Tina? I think were the ones Sooh asked for help reading me despite people like you and Yates being around and C) generally she is not helping Town and D) she came in late lynch on Tina when tina was the obvious lynch and yet voted EP

But Leelou loves you, so there's that. 

[Leelou]

Leeloominaï Lekatariba Lamina-Tchaï Ekbat De Sebat, Taborline was absent, not scummy Ooga-Chaka, girl, your words strike to my heart - they're like a hook, deep inside of me, full of feelings and stuff. 

 

Actually, her few game related posts were scummy. She's down there for a reason.