Avatar The Last Airbender Town and SK wins!

[Nolder]

If we don't reach a lynch, the cop gets 1 view, the doctor gets a 10% chance probably less of guessing right, depending on there views. And I feel like the town is repeating day one, with the same old, that has been mentioned here already.

Doctor will self protect unless they have a very good reason not to.

 

So what happens if the cop/doctor is killed then?

ALL HOPE IS LOST

 

No seriously though it's not that big of a deal.

It happens in a lot of games town ends up winning.

You just gotta use your head and puzzle out who the bad guys are.

Again, I'm not saying no lynch is good. It's not. It's pretty bad.

But it's not the end of the world either.

[Thane Vakarian]

i doubt that the wolves will kill someone with low content for NK. Rather pick high content or advanced player to help the game progress for them during the dayphases. I'm not very confident that the cop or doc will be lucky enough tonight. 

 

if i sound pessimistic... well, i am. 

[Nolder]

Why are you even talking about this?

Concentrate on finding scum not on "what ifs" that might never even be an issue.

[Andrej]

So what happens if the cop/doctor is killed then? this puts the town at a major disadvantage. yes we have the night kill read, but what if they just kill someone with hardly any content. I do not like that idea at all.

That could happen regardless.

 

We'll get a lynch to go through today one way or the other, even if it's on me.

[Nolder]

i doubt that the wolves will kill someone with low content for NK. Rather pick high content or advanced player to help the game progress for them during the dayphases. I'm not very confident that the cop or doc will be lucky enough tonight. 

 

if i sound pessimistic... well, i am. 

Speaking for myself, I like to kill players with low content because it tends to give town less information.

Of course there are other factors in determining a kill but if we're just talking about postcount less is more imo.

[Thane Vakarian]

active players can clear themself through gameplay and are more likely to figure out the scum team. Inactives can't, and therefore hurt less to keep around. That's my vision on it.

[seph]

nolder what would be your lynch order for thane john snow?

[Andrej]

Nolder could you explain briefly why you have people grouped where they are?

[Andrej]

active players can clear themself through gameplay and are more likely to figure out the scum team. Inactives can't, and therefore hurt less to keep around. That's my vision on it.

That mostly depends on the competency of the town recognizing it.

[Thane Vakarian]

you could also claim VT, right?

[seph]

 

i have to say that it was quite an interesting read, especially inbewteen the lines, from the past 6-7 pages. My notes are a bit smaller, but i have some chages of mind after what i read. 

 

notes, if interested

 

 

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1. Zander (mentored by Cory) quiet, but think VT claim was n00b error

2. Nolder quiet…
 

3. Eldrick

Votes Seph #434, after Seph stating vote meant nothing… 
 

4. Sooh (mentored by Clov)

#408: Seph ^, tress ping, more reading Ithi/turin; 
 

5. Not Bob

#409, don’t like… #411, little, but still present. And, why call me, when there are 2  more voting you? #412, agrees with Ithi’s scum suspects. #415 points at seph, who replies later. #417 guy with agenda > AJ? ; #439 vote Thane… but.. “pretty sure Seph is scum, could vote Eldrick, AJ is guy with agenda, votes Thane?

7. Seph (mentored by Dice): so serious, defends well. Perhaps too well? 
8. Tress quiet…

9. AJ

#365 questions Turin why Snow sus; responds well, imo, to Ithi page 20, #460 better about NotBob… though #417 AJ agenda? Missed it?, vote Eldrick for #434… 
 

10. John Snow

#383 WoT, #384, good responses in general, though could see him (dire)wolf with AJ
 

11. Ithi

#372 I use it too, wolves, form the RL game werewolf.
 

12. Turin

 

#367 reply to #365AJ ; #369 Bah!! you can't all be mafia. #416 vote AJ, competing trains AJ/Seph. General ok gameplay. 

 

 

old list

 

 Turin

Ithi

AJ

Eldrick

 

Nolder

Sooh

John Snow

Tress

 

Notbob

Seph

Zander 

 

 

redone list: 

Turin

Ithi

Eldrick

 

Zander

 

Nolder

Sooh

Tress

Seph

 

John Snow

AJ

Notbob

 

top three still seem town to me. Zander has moved up. I think he made a mistake claiming early and will have gotten hell about it by his mentor. Giving him the benefit of doubt here. 

 

Nolder, Tress, Sooh, i have no idea yet. Hesitating to put Seph somewhere. Null is all i can do for him now. 

 

Now interesting is the bottom three. I have some questionmarks about things Notbob said (perhaps i misunderstood them?), but here goes: post #417. You want to say something specifically Notbob? The way i understand that, is that you have AJ as a guy with an agenda in this game. Usually, for me it means that you suspect him being wolf. 

he's not in my cleared list at all, so it's quite logical to me that others would put him in their wolf-pile too

My possible mafia so far are within seph, thane,AJ and Eldrick.

I can imagine Seph, but would you like to clarify the other three? i'm curious

Why do you imagine Seph is?

 

AJ has either not seen this or is ignoring this. I doubt he wouldn't have seen it, still he's feeling a lot better about Notbob... this doesn't add up for me. I suspect Notbob and AJ are wolfing together. From the recent interactions, i'd throw John Snow on the scumpile too. 

 

My vote stays.

Has anything changed for you on your list thane? 

Also I was wondering why you say I hesitate to move seph somewhere, then state it is obvious why other's have him in their wolf piles. As it seems you knew the answer.

[Thane Vakarian]

imo, it sucks that we probably will need this nights flips to work with. I have some doubts that anybody will reach majority

[Thane Vakarian]

Seph.. i hope you realize that your post looks like someone else wrote it.... 

[Andrej]

imo, it sucks that we probably will need this nights flips to work with. I have some doubts that anybody will reach majority

That statement rings especially hollow from you considering you aren't voting anyone.

[Nolder]

nolder what would be your lynch order for thane john snow?

It wasn't my intention to differentiate between people in the same category.

I view them pretty much the same at the moment.

[Thane Vakarian]

 

imo, it sucks that we probably will need this nights flips to work with. I have some doubts that anybody will reach majority

That statement rings especially hollow from you considering you aren't voting anyone.

 

i'm willing to vote any of my 4 suspects, i just want to see who'll be most likely. I'm around for another 2 hours, then work is done. 

[Thane Vakarian]

@Seph: list is still accurate, if that's what you wanted to know. That is a very confusing post

[Nolder]

 

Seph - seemed like frustrated townie

Ithi - seemed like frustrated townie

 

Sooh - asking good questions

Eldrick - being attentive

Not Bob - gut feeling mostly

AJ - asking good questions

 

Zander - nothing stood out need to reread

Tress - kind of ignored her posts because most were long lol

 

Thane - strikes me as standoffish/going with the flow 

John Snow - don't like some of the things he's said, also possible connection to Turin

 

Turin - stuff about not lynching inactives, connection to john snow, omgusing me

 

[Nolder]

Better AJ?

[seph]

Seph.. i hope you realize that your post looks like someone else wrote it.... 

No I wrote it, I don't see how you even come to that.

also you only have three top suspects who is your fourth.

imo, it sucks that we probably will need this nights flips to work with. I have some doubts that anybody will reach majority

I think this is a very bad way to look at it.

[Thane Vakarian]

 

Seph.. i hope you realize that your post looks like someone else wrote it.... 

No I wrote it, I don't see how you even come to that.

also you only have three top suspects who is your fourth.

 

it seems that you talk about yourself in third person. I find that post very confusing. I stated earlier ITT that Nolder was my 4th suspect.

 

imo, it sucks that we probably will need this nights flips to work with. I have some doubts that anybody will reach majority

I think this is a very bad way to look at it.

 

i'm being realistic... votes are too scattered

[Songstress]

Still working on my ISO for Snow, then I'm going to scan Seph, Ithi, Turin and AJ and gut read them because I have to get ready for work in ~40 minutes, but this just caught my eye while refreshing the game...

 

 

 

Seph.. i hope you realize that your post looks like someone else wrote it.... 

No I wrote it, I don't see how you even come to that.
also you only have three top suspects who is your fourth.

imo, it sucks that we probably will need this nights flips to work with. I have some doubts that anybody will reach majority

I think this is a very bad way to look at it.

 

 

Why does he need a fourth?  I think you've had it explained to you several times (a couple of times in our mentor conversation) that typical mafia game setups have between 1/4 and 1/3 anti-town, depending on roles.  With a basic game, I'd expect there to be only three mafia.  Four mafia would be too many without heavy roles on the town side, which we won't see in a basic game.  If there are 4 non-town total, then one of them would be a survivor or SK for balance.

[seph]

@Seph: list is still accurate, if that's what you wanted to know. That is a very confusing post

I misinterpreted some of it. I Thought the section talking about the wolf pile was talking about me. nvm

thx for the read list though 

[seph]

Still working on my ISO for Snow, then I'm going to scan Seph, Ithi, Turin and AJ and gut read them because I have to get ready for work in ~40 minutes, but this just caught my eye while refreshing the game...

 

 

 

Seph.. i hope you realize that your post looks like someone else wrote it.... 

No I wrote it, I don't see how you even come to that.

also you only have three top suspects who is your fourth.

imo, it sucks that we probably will need this nights flips to work with. I have some doubts that anybody will reach majority

I think this is a very bad way to look at it.

 

 

Why does he need a fourth?  I think you've had it explained to you several times (a couple of times in our mentor conversation) that typical mafia game setups have between 1/4 and 1/3 anti-town, depending on roles.  With a basic game, I'd expect there to be only three mafia.  Four mafia would be too many without heavy roles on the town side, which we won't see in a basic game.  If there are 4 non-town total, then one of them would be a survivor or SK for balance.

because he said he had four suspects? so I was curious to who the other 1 was.

[Songstress]

 

Still working on my ISO for Snow, then I'm going to scan Seph, Ithi, Turin and AJ and gut read them because I have to get ready for work in ~40 minutes, but this just caught my eye while refreshing the game...

 

 

 

Seph.. i hope you realize that your post looks like someone else wrote it.... 

No I wrote it, I don't see how you even come to that.

also you only have three top suspects who is your fourth.

imo, it sucks that we probably will need this nights flips to work with. I have some doubts that anybody will reach majority

I think this is a very bad way to look at it.

 

 

Why does he need a fourth?  I think you've had it explained to you several times (a couple of times in our mentor conversation) that typical mafia game setups have between 1/4 and 1/3 anti-town, depending on roles.  With a basic game, I'd expect there to be only three mafia.  Four mafia would be too many without heavy roles on the town side, which we won't see in a basic game.  If there are 4 non-town total, then one of them would be a survivor or SK for balance.

because he said he had four suspects? so I was curious to who the other 1 was.

 

 

Ahh.  Missed that fact in skimming the new posts.  I wish I could call in sick again today to spend more time reading more carefully