[Basic] Lolcats: zOMGby Apocalypse - Game Over - Town Win

[Kaylee]

There's still the fact that you and Nyn are making the same case against us.

[Leelou]

Doesn't mean she couldn't have been distancing from you.

[Leelou]

I'll check in when I'm in Cincinnati for my stop.

[Niniel]

I was kind of hoping that one of you had made a great case that I could just agree with but I don´t feel that I have any strong mafia candidates right now. I´ll take a look at the game again. 

[Niniel]

 

 

 

So I was thrown off by Nyn/Verb being mafia and I've had to readjust my views.

Looking at the two lynch trains though I'm gonna conclude that Pral is the last mafia. If not then I think it's Sili.

If it isn't either of them then I'm having a bad game lol.

 

[v]Pral[/v]

Last mafia?

 

And yeah, you are having a bad game.

 

Oops I forgot Lily wasn't actually mafia LOL.

 

And yeah I could be. One way or another we'll find out pretty soon I think.

 

 

If you thought Lily was mafia, why would think I am mafia based on D1 lynch list? You are not making too much sense here, Nol. Hasty, perhaps?

 

 

Yes, I wonder about this too. I never really understood what Nolder meant with his vote on you. 

 

Pral: It would be a very poor downcast l distancing attempt. Considering they did so at a weird point. They're both good players so I'd think as a team they'd able to do a better job at it. But kudos for sticking to what you feel is a scum link.

 

I think that they could have done anything. It´s even possible that they guessed they would be viewed and decided to buss Thane. I don´t think that is probable though. I will consider him town for the push on him but otherwise I won´t read too much into their posts.

 

Thane and Tina who are your top scum leans?

 

Tina: What do you think of our case against Leelou?

 

I need to catch up more. Will be back later. 

[Thane Vakarian]

Current thoughts: 

 

1. Sili: seems town. Been a bit too quiet today... wonder why?
2. Kaytress: i get the feeling this slot is town. 
3. Thane: no zombie, quite certain
5. Leelou: not sure. had a zombie lean on her earlier, but... I'm hesitating. Interaction could well be t/t between her and Kaytress.
6. Tina: town cop, no CC, seems legit. 
7. Dice: ah yes, dice. I can't make sense of why you vote people. Seriously. 
8. Pral: Dude, you confuzzle me. Your posts seem good. Perhaps too good. *glare* i'll watch you
9. Nol: either an absolute townplayer or deceiving town with his 'let Tina hammer'. in doubt about him. We'll see. 

 

For the moment, i have some leans, being Leelou, Dice and Pral... in no particular order. So I dunno... zombie plays well.. 

[Songstress]

Leelou ISO:

 

 

 

 

N0:

 

Usual intro. 

 

Questions Sili about his "no godfather" declaration.

 

Votes to end N0.

 

Reminds Sili that GF is possible in a basic game.

 

Tells Sili she is indifferent to the possibility of a GF, points out he was the one who stated there was not one.

 

Tells Sili he is wrong about her being a wolf.

 

Hates snow.

 

Jokes with Verb about voting Thane for having a snowless winter.

 

More talk about snow.

 

Jokes about staring at Verb's butt.

 

Asks Verb and Nyn to keep her warm for the night.

 

Makes sure Verb is in on the threesome.

 

Declares we aren't on POG.

 

Snuggles Verb and Nyn.

 

D1:

 

Votes Sili after he fake claims a guilty on her.

 

Says she's not a miller, busy throwing a goodbye party for her boss.

 

Says she is leaving for the train, will try to post later.

 

Chastises Sili for poor response to pressure.  Questions why he has Pral in his townish pile.  Says Kaylee is very good at faking town.

 

Explains that she skimmed the rules and did not get a chance to go back to re-read them (in response to Tina's point that she should have known there were no N0 actions)

 

Thinks her last post was eaten.

 

Reminds Sili to answer about why he thinks Pral is town.

 

Notes that Pral has 2 posts so far.

 

Says Tina is telling a narrative and not digging in to ask questions, and the questions she is asking don't seem to solve the game.

 

Corrects her grammar in previous post.

 

Disagrees with Sili's approach to Pral, would prefer to pressure him to show up and post.

 

Replies to Sili that she thinks Town Tina would be asking loaded questions.

 

Unvotes Sili, says she is leaning toward voting Kaylee or Pral.  "Slightly uncomfortable" with Tina, questions Lily voting early, says Thane needs to say something, characterizes Dice as a doggy with his favorite squeak toy, is OK with Nol, is reserving judgment on Nyn until Verb shows up, and is cautiously leaning town on Sili.

 

Questions why Pral voted Lily.

 

Notes that Lily doesn't normally get as involve as she has D1.

 

Tells Verb (after he gives possible explanation for Lily's different behavior) that she's not going to ignore the meta difference.

 

Responds to Verb's question that she thought Kaylee was trying too hard to be the "helpful townie", asks Verb what he thinks about Tina.

 

Promises to ISO Kaylee.

 

Posts summary of Kaylee's ISO, characterizes her as being too helpful.  Asks why she thinks Leelou was in danger of being speed lynched and whether she has a town read on Leelou.

 

Votes Pral with no additional comment.

 

States she is leaving for lunch soon and will switch vote to Lily if no further action.  (Note that Pral, who she has as one of her top two scum leans and has just voted, is voting Lily at this point)

 

Switches vote to Lily.

 

Questions Sili (presumably on his decision to unvote Lily and switch to Thane).

 

Clarifies what she meant by Tina "telling a narrative", states she is asking more questions now.

 

Questions whether deadline has passed.

 

Makes fun of Verbal.

 

N1:

 

Notes that native DM'ers tend not to switch trains at the last minute without good reason, states she was away during the last hour before deadline.

 

Replies to Sili that Lily's train wasn't "the only train" for very long, others had been started.

 

Comments on length of night phase.

 

Replies to Kaylee that people were still around when she voted Pral and there was 2.5 hours until deadline.

 

Notes that Kaylee was around and "made a stink" about Pral being voted, asks who she thinks is scum.

 

Does not like Thane's list.  Says she talked enough about her suspicions about Pral and Kaylee during the day.  Defends her vote on Lily.  Notes Pral has a major lack of content.

 

D2:

 

Doubts mafia neglected to submit NK since night ended early. Says Thane is not looking good.

 

Comments on extra site traffic due to surprise WoT pilot.

 

Chats with Nol and Verb about pilot.

 

Wants to hear from Pral.

 

Votes Thane, says he has been digging himself a hole since he started going after Verb/Nyn, asks why he has been pushing on the lack of NK.

 

Does not want to venture a guess as to who Tina got a guilty on.

 

Explains that she was distracted until after the hammer by a snowstorm. Surprised by Tina's result, questions why she chose to view Verb/Nyn when she appeared to be suspicious of other players.  Unsure how to feel about Nyn's fake doc claim, will wait and see.

 

Responds to my post about viewing someone who has the capability to fool you that she understands and did not have Verb/Nyn in her town pile, but wasn't "creeped out" by them yet.

 

Clarifies from rules that this game is hybrid hammer.

 

D3:

 

Says she will be busy at work due to upcoming vacation.  Asks Dice why he is voting her.

 

Responds to Dice that the reason she didn't vote Verb/Nyn was that she was away from the thread (distracted by snow per her previous post) until after they were lynched.

 

Asks Nolder to comment on Kaylee.

 

Clarifies that she wants him to comment on her "over helpfulness", and notes that she does not like hydras because it makes a slot too hard to read.

 

Again clarifies that Kaylee was "answering every question that came up" at the beginning of the game.

 

Is OK with Nol's suggestion to have Tina decide the hammer.

 

States she has had a bad feeling about Kaylee since D1, notes that she always gets jumpy when someone tries to stop a lynch on her early in the game, so she is asking Nol who she is leaning town on to help clarify.  Apologizes for not being around much, says she will try to do some ISOs now that the site is working.

 

Replies to Kaylee's and my point about her lack of interaction with Verb that she has been busy and they weren't really online much at the same time.

 

Confirms that she wants Nolder to go back and revisit his impression of Kaylee's early game posts.

 

States that she didn't try to figure out Verb/Nyn's alignment because she hasn't had the time to dedicate to the game.

 

 

 

 

Pulling all that is going to make me run late for work, but I wanted to get everything together in one place...

 

Reasons why we're voting Leelou:

 

1) Did not try like she usually does to figure out whether Verb/Nyn were town.  This is something she makes a point of doing when she's town, and her lack of doing so because she was busier than she thought she'd be and because Verb wasn't online with her enough doesn't ring true.

 

2) Did not post at all between Tina's reveal and the hammer on Verb/Nyn because she was "distracted by a snowstorm".  The cop has revealed says she has a guilty result, and you don't bother checking back in to see who it is until after they are hammered?  Pral has an excuse because of the time difference.  I don't buy this explanation.

 

3) Declared Pral and Kaylee her top 2 scum suspects, voted Pral, and then voted Lily a few minutes later despite the fact that one of her top 2 suspects was voting her.    Interactions with Verb during the Lily lynch were awkward.

 

4) Not comfortable with the way she tried to push against Tina early in the game, and tried to cast doubt on TIna's rationale for viewing scum before the flip.

 

5) I have never once heard her say as town that Kaylee is "very good at faking town".  There are some people who are great at faking town, but Kaylee and I aren't normally included in that list.

 

6) She is now making the same argument as known scum (Verb/Nyn) regarding Kaylee and trying to get Nolder on her side.

 

7) Was voting Thane before Tina's reveal because he was going after Verb/Nyn and "making himself look bad".  She later indicated she did not have a town read on them, but also wasn't "creeped out by them".  So in fact she had them as null, but wasn't trying to figure out their alignment.

 

All this looks very sketchy to us, and we are comfortable with our vote.

[Niniel]

I´ve gone through Nolder´s posts. 

 

+

Joined Sili´s fake claim to see how Leelou reacted.

What looked bad then now looks good for him - voting and unvoting Lily. Why do that as mafia? Or maybe it was about making her look suspect without being on her train?

 

-

Don´t follow his thoughts about Pral.

He is not agressive at all. I feel that I no longer have any meta read on Nolder. From what I remember of years ago he was always agressive. Now he is more chilling and talking some and not engaging to much. Maybe this is how Nolder plays nowdays?

[Sili Quirrels]

No cory says nolder floats and snipes when scum. It is bad he isnt here with more presence.

[Kaylee]

Nol is one other than Tina we won't vote. We're strong on our town read of him.

[Thane Vakarian]

i'd be ok with not voting Nolder this round. 

[Niniel]

Arrrgghhh....

 

I´ve read Leelou´s, Pral´s, Dices and Kaylee´s posts and it´s so hard. Non of them screams town or mafia.

 

 

I think I could vote Nolder or Kaylee. Or Pral. I don´t think I would vote Leelou or Dice right now. 

 

The thing with Kaylee is that she seemed to go after people, then back away. Like she wanted to see what others thought so she could follow. Today she is focusing on Leelou, and I get her case,  but is anxious to see if I viewed her so she can back away if needed.. 

 

 

What is the vc?

[Thane Vakarian]

 

Deadline -  Thurs Feb 12 @ 5pm CST or when someone has 5 votes

 

 

Vote Count

 

Thane (1/5): Sili

Sili (1/5): Dice

Pral (1/5): Nol

Leelou (1/5): Kaytress

Kaytress (1/5): Pral

 

 

No Lynch (3/8): Thane, Tina, Leelou

 

still the votecount, unless i missed something

[Thane Vakarian]

i really dislike that VC... there's no absolute clear zombie, and whoever gets voted probably gets it.... Tina, if you are willing to tell us, who did you view?

[Niniel]

Not yet. Noone is about to get lynched. 

 

Nolder or Kaylee?

 

I didn´t like Kaylee´s answer to Pral. It was something about "kudos for believing in your case". (Not an actual quote.)

 

 

[v] Kaylee/Tress [/v]

[Niniel]

I´ll be here back and forth for at least two hours. 

[Thane Vakarian]

i still think Leelou would be a better lynch than Kaytress.... 

 

[v]Leelou[/v]

 

I'll be around a bit, and will check in before going to bed. 

[Kaylee]

Didn't want to do this but don't want the mafia to win. We're doc. We protected Nol night 1 and Tina night 2. Since there was no kill N1 we believe that confirms Nol as town.

 

 

Want confirmation? When Nyn fake claimed she said they protected Nol. There was no kill N1. Why choose Nol over anyone else? We know why it was to draw us out.

 

Anyway I'll gone for 2 hours since I'll be driving home.

[Nolder]

 

So I was thrown off by Nyn/Verb being mafia and I've had to readjust my views.

Looking at the two lynch trains though I'm gonna conclude that Pral is the last mafia. If not then I think it's Sili.

If it isn't either of them then I'm having a bad game lol.

 

[v]Pral[/v]

What made you change your mind about me? You think I try that gambit as scum?

 

Mostly POE. Don't like your voting pattern also. 

 

 

Also because he didn't even vote when we lynched Nyn/Verb yesterday.

Yes, I agree with tina. This is a horrible reason and it doesn't even matter if he was around. The vote itself matters little

 

I don't agree. If he was around and didn't vote that is purposeful or at the least a dumb mistake.

 

I don't believe anyone has checked yet whether he was around or not have they?

 

[Nolder]

 

 

 

So I was thrown off by Nyn/Verb being mafia and I've had to readjust my views.

Looking at the two lynch trains though I'm gonna conclude that Pral is the last mafia. If not then I think it's Sili.

If it isn't either of them then I'm having a bad game lol.

 

[v]Pral[/v]

Last mafia?

 

And yeah, you are having a bad game.

 

Oops I forgot Lily wasn't actually mafia LOL.

 

And yeah I could be. One way or another we'll find out pretty soon I think.

 

 

If you thought Lily was mafia, why would think I am mafia based on D1 lynch list? You are not making too much sense here, Nol. Hasty, perhaps?

 

I thought we'd be hunting the last mafia based on that. I think it's a 3 man team.

[Nolder]

 

 

 

So I was thrown off by Nyn/Verb being mafia and I've had to readjust my views.

Looking at the two lynch trains though I'm gonna conclude that Pral is the last mafia. If not then I think it's Sili.

If it isn't either of them then I'm having a bad game lol.

 

[v]Pral[/v]

 

Reasons? Because he was the first one to vote Lily?

Also because he didn't even vote when we lynched Nyn/Verb yesterday.

 

 

Clearly because I was sleeping through the whole drama.

 

Tina revealed at 1:30 AM my time. By 8 AM, verb had been lynched. CHeck the timestamps.

 

What I'm wondering, if it's so easy to disprove what I'm saying, why hasn't anyone else checked yet?

[Niniel]

Didn't want to do this but don't want the mafia to win. We're doc. We protected Nol night 1 and Tina night 2. Since there was no kill N1 we believe that confirms Nol as town.

 

 

Want confirmation? When Nyn fake claimed she said they protected Nol. There was no kill N1. Why choose Nol over anyone else? We know why it was to draw us out.

 

Anyway I'll gone for 2 hours since I'll be driving home.

 

[unvote]

[Nolder]

so, something that stands out to me, and which i can not quite place (yet?).

 

Nolder, regarding your post here, letting Tina hammer. Leelou agrees, Tress likes it, it's fine with Kaylee, and also Dice.

 

Both Sili and Pral, however, do not comment on it. 

 

Personally, I think Tina should have a say. her peek could be of significance. 

 

I'm hesitating a bit. I haven't really been able to point out a solid suspect yet. i'll have to re-read the entire thing a few times. 

Ok.

[Niniel]

Then we have a problem. Because Leelou is town. I viewed her last night. And you think Nolder is town. 

 

Be right back after Master Chef. :)

[Thane Vakarian]

[v]unvote[/v]