[Standard] 11/10 Top Tier Vanilla+ Game Thread

[Darthe]

Your posts look like the creation of an inactive scummer basing his srguments on a QT summary.

 

Wombat was the seer, he doesnt need to put a fake read on thread because he has a real one confirmable by his death. The rest of us were the cover.

[dicetosser1]

fine then. So explain to me then why  with the possibility of the SK choosing GF we sould just AUTOMATICALLY believe hally is town? yes wombat has viewed her but the possibility exists that she is SK and chose GF.

 

I still say i will tentatively view hally as town

[Darthe]

the odds are .05 that that is the case not including the possibility that the SK chose A BPV instead. That would make the odds roughly .025 which is a hole tenth of the chance to be correct that everyone else has. Sono, that's probably not a good direction for us to go in

[dicetosser1]

does it seem to you that i said i was going to vote hally? it must if you think i am "going in that direction".

 

and i dont give a damn about the percentages.

[Darthe]

Order everyone from town to scum and pick an SK plz.

[Darthe]

Order everyone from town to scum and pick an SK plz.

[Cass]

aaaaahhhh!!!! I've missed so much and now I'm gonna have to try and deal with this on the tablet and mobile, where I'm not even sure quotes work, all day!... See where sleeping gets you?? (Had no choice though, have my 'first' day in office on 'light duties'). I am currently on the train with one stop to go. (Scrap that, I'm now sitting at the train station - in my full ambulance uniform - posting like a geek. It's a good look. If someone hurts themselves or decides to come show me their infected toe, I'm gonna hate you all).

 

Reading catch up this morning I can see the mislynch light lining me up... I know this is a really flimsy line but yep... I'm just VanillaT.

 

My reads on Wom and DPR (and Kiv, for that matter) were absolutely 100% legit based on how they were/had been interacting with me to that point (see my brainwave evolution when I posted to Kiv and Dice at EoD?). Even if it turns out I was wrong *blush*. I actually spent the last 2.5 hours of 'night' time preparing attacks and defences specifically relating to the two of them, and only them, with a couple of questions for possible SKs - hence my omgus at the two of them but *shrugs* whatever, all I can do now is adjust. In light of Wom being Seer, I can kinda see a point in busting my chops so much, from the possible perspective that he may have thought it would keep wolves off his back (if so, well played and I'm sorry if my 'certainty' got you killed). But DPR? To be honest I still don't see a reason why he would act like that as Town - unless he legitimately thinks I'm a Wolf. But even then he had no solid argument against me - just the idea that it was possible I was pulling wool all over everybody's eyes. I know this situation looks dodgy for me *laughs* but I assure you that I'm not.

 

I'm gonna have to do a lot of work to readjust my views enough to be as 'sure' of them as I was on Kiv/Wom/DPR and I prob won't have anything conclusive til tonight (no work tomorrow - who needs sleep? #thisgamewillkillmebutIloveit).

 

For now though, I'm just gonna move down on my previous list.

 

I'm most wary of Thane and Nyn for a Wolf perspective (sorry Nyn).

I'm think I'm considering Darthe/Deslarmi/Dice maybe Hallia for SK. Darthe and Deslarmi cos ... something and Dice because I've found his inactivity odd, after he encouraged me so hard to join this game.

 

I don't have much of anything on any of the others at this point because I haven't really been following them this game. Don't doubt that. I think I've mentioned confusion over AJ, Tress and Pral before, and Rags had slipped my radar, (yes, apparently I was 'tunneling' but I'm bouncing back and looking at everybody now *g*).

 

I'll try and reply to people's specific posts throughout the day (no idea if this will work but office people get a lunchbreak, right??) Apart from questioning Thane about his vote on Pral (alongside someone we now know is Wolf), things I wrote down last night to investigate were:

 

-Who did the Seer (Wom) see? -done (thanks Nyn, yey Hally (and Wom) - with her so quiet 'til now this would've been a hard one for me to get my head around.

 

- Who did DPR/Wom Vote? - AJ (why??)

- Who was VerBarm reading? - AJ (WHY???)

- Did AJ make excuses to swap to Kiv somewhere? (haven't checked)

 

Then, on general gameplay:

- In what order do we vote Inactives/SK/Wolf here? Why?

 

 

I noted someone (Darthe I think?) mentioned I haven't contributed as much as others to the game... Dude, it's my first game - I'm really trying/doing the best I can/getting better though! Also, for what it's worth, if you consider things on the idea that I am Vanilla Town, I've made a lot of effort to give you all as much as I can on me- the only thing I'm an authority on and, in this game, a great 'unknown'... Flimsy yes. But true. When it comes down to it on the final night if we still have 2 shots I'm happy to go down too. For now though, I still really wanna play *g*. Like I said, I'm getting better.

 

Catch up as I can throughout the day, but yeah, that's where I'm at.

 

 

 

Y'know, apart from still sitting at the train station like an addicted noob. lol.

[dicetosser1]

dicetosser1

WWWwombat - Seer - Killed N2
DreadPirateRoberts - Vanillager - Killed N2
Leelou - Vanillager - Killed N1
Sili Quirrels - Vanillager - Lynched D1
Stelio Kontos - Jailkeeper - Killed N1
Verbal32 / Barmacral Hydra - Vanillager - Killed N2
Cass (Mentored by manbat)
Thane Vakarian

Andrej
Darthe
Hallia

 

Despot / csarmi Hydra

Nynaeve (Mentored by Clovdyx)

 

Tress

Arsis Pralaya  
TheRagnarok
Yates. - Wolf Godfather - Killed N1

Kivam - Wolf N1 Vig - Lynched D2
Krakalakachkn - Wolf N2 Vig - Killed N2
 

 

there you go darthe. pral is low cause i just dont remember any of his stuff. nyn and des are together cause i had them both as town early but there is some waffling in my head with them.

 

i have no idea why tress has a line thru it

 

and im not keen on picking a SK. I find it odd that you want me to considering posts earlier today from you, me and hallia at least.

 

Gun to head id say you. this is based on a) the fact that uve pO'd me this morning and your posts regarding hally.

[Tommyrod]

Vote count incoming

[Andrej]

^ wolfy

[Tommyrod]

...in a few hours

[Andrej]

Definitely wolfy.

[Andrej]

Cass the big issue I have with you currently is that you had Kivam as a high scum read but sustained others above him when it came to voting priority. You being on the wagon at EOD is a point in your favor but I don't think it's outside the realm of possibility that Kivam was lauding you so highly because you were essentially the apprentice in his Sith regime. With support from players like Yates and Kivam I think it would be relatively easy for a new player to construct good posts.

[Hallia]

I find myself agreeing with you there, AJ.

[Andrej]

Hi Hallia

 

Thanks for saving my tail yesterday. I was beginning to fear I'd have to start tinfoiling on you.

 

Does anyone in particular remember if Wombat didn't vote anyone specifically D2? I'd look through his ISO myself but I'm currently on my phone and that'd be a hassle.

[Hallia]

<3 of course sandy ego buddy! I'm still on catch up, I haven't read a lot of D1

[dicetosser1]

i think he was after kivam the whole time.  haven't actually checked tho

[Darthe]

Dice howling ITT. Im astonished that in that reads list post he said he thought I was SK because I ticked him off. Dice do you remotely see how this makes you look #squirming?

[Andrej]

Vote Count D2.21:

Kivam (5): AJ [#2373], Deslami [#2623], Darthe [#2728], Hallia [#2835], Cass [#2837]
AJ (4): Verbarm [#2562], Kivam [#2785], Wombat [#2823], DPR [#2836]
Verbarm (3): Nyn [#2192], Dicetosser [#2202], Pral [#2500]
Pral (2): Thane [#1931], Krak [#2826]

Not Voting (2): Rags, Tress

At the gallows: Kivam

Reminder: players not voting at EOD will be voting for themselves.

 

Final VC from EOD2. I've colored the appropriate people, Hallia is pink because she's peeked innocent by the confirmed Seer but I'm not going to 100% rule out the obvious. For now I'm content to roll with her and doubt I'll be voting there unless it comes down to a ML situation.

 

Anyway - seeing as how Krak and Yates were both voting Pral EOD2 and EOD1 respectively I feel comfortable tabling him for today. I also think for the sake of condensing the suspect pool we should avoid lynching anyone on the Kivam wagon. I feel relatively good about all of those slots as it is, Cass to a lesser extent, but we have wiggle room to get it wrong so she can wait.

 

So looking at the remainders that leaves:

 

Nyn

Dice

Thane

Tress

Rags

 

Pick from those 5. Competing wagons would be good to look back on later and regardless of who we lynch I also think the Vig should concentrate their shot here as well.

 

Anyone agree/disagree?

[dicetosser1]

Dice howling ITT. Im astonished that in that reads list post he said he thought I was SK because I ticked him off. Dice do you remotely see how this makes you look #squirming?

 

Do you remotely see how i spoke the truth as it was at the time? You p'd me off and that made me look at you badly. im not squirming. I have no reason to squirm.

[dicetosser1]

I disagree with the notion of lynching or killing me obviously AJ. and so should you. i am town.

[Andrej]

I disagree with the notion of lynching or killing me obviously AJ. and so should you. i am town.

 

Yeah, I get that. This is also sort of a mandatory post to make regardless of your actual alignment.

 

I personally don't think I'd vote you today but I want to generate more discussion and see where everyone is falling regarding their suspects.

[Andrej]

Final Vote Count D1.29

 

Sili (8): Kivam [#362], Krak [#1026], Wombat [#1213], Verbarm [#1239], AJ [#1779], Leelou [#1781], Diceman [#1799], Tress [#1823]

Pral (6): Nyn [#691], Yates [#698], Sili [#700], Thane [#1299], Stelio [#1857], Deslami [#1870]

Dice (1): Darthe [#1685]

DPR (1): Cass [#1566]

 

Unvote (1): Pral [#1323]

 

Not Voting (3): DPR, Hallia, Rags

 

At the gallows: Sili

 

D1 Final VC if anyone wants to take a look at that and speculate.

 

Seeing as how Kivam and Krak were already voting Sili I'm not sure I see Dice and Tress piling on at the end there somewhat needlessly if they were teammates with those two. Not to be ruled out though.

 

With Yates on the counter wagon and the general 'staleness' of the voting towards EOD1 I wouldn't be surprised if both Pral and Sili were being pushed as non-wolf wagons. Allowing my own reads to affect my view here - I think those who look the worst in this situation are Nyn, Thane, Cass, and Rags. Pral still has a chance of being a SK in this situation but I'm not particularly sold on that point yet.

[Darthe]

 

 

Dice howling ITT. Im astonished that in that reads list post he said he thought I was SK because I ticked him off. Dice do you remotely see how this makes you look #squirming?

Do you remotely see how i spoke the truth as it was at the time? You p'd me off and that made me look at you badly. im not squirming. I have no reason to squirm.

look you being an ass about it doesn't change that I was right in coming at you for saying things that didn't make sense. Additionally your feelings have nothing to do with my alignment. if they did I'm confident that des and I would be mafia every game. I'm currently taking the time to talk with you and figure you out instead of jumping straight pushing that you die 4 the mistakes you've made on thread.

[Darthe]

AJyou've really grown a lot lately. How do you feel about a nyn Lynch today