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Barm, this is your cue to go do it and make Verbal look like a loser. Granted he doesn't usually need help... but you might as well give him a nudge in the right direction.

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Vote tags stay as they are.

 

See if I care. I mostly defy their existence unless I'm on my phone :P

 

Not sure if that'll work - you've been trying that on me for years.

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Barm, this is your cue to go do it and make Verbal look like a loser. Granted he doesn't usually need help... but you might as well give him a nudge in the right direction.

 

You underestimate my level of lazy. It is a good idea though.

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Do you guys think as a wolf Leelou would be more likely to call a post neutral or accept the villagery praise for it?

She would call it like she sees it. You can learn a lot from a hydra.

 

Also, I wanted to say this at the end of the other game but I don't think it will end in time so I'll say it now; last game made me realize we can't do the 3 Amigos thing any more and Dice and I can't do our soul reads. Now that it's public info and sort of an acknowledged truth between us it's like talking in code and borderline cheating.   :sad:

 

I appreciated you not taking advantage of the Dusty Bottoms thing, though!  Very solid character play right there.

 

 

:sad:

 

How is anything where people could just lie to you with the joke an alignment tell?

That's just it. We don't/can't lie to each other. We are just better people than you, I guess.

 

:biggrin:

 

 

I get why he is saying all this. 

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I just don't understand why it was brought up. The fact that he got mislynched a lot isn't meta. No one is referring to anything he usually does as town/scum. It's just being said that people often misread him.... so what? Am I supposed to try to read him and then choose the opposite alignment? No. I'm gonna do my best to read him based on his content and hope that his actions reflect his alignment. And if he keeps playing in a way that comes off as sketchy... then he's gonna continue being mislynched. But that's neither here nor there.

 

Yep.  It used to be when people got mislynched a lot, they tried to change how they played.  That being said, Thane looks ok to me right now.

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so, the way i see it, this is what's happening: i feel flattered about all the attention, but it also worries me. Wolves could easily support me here, and when i flip town, gain towncred for doing so.

 

I am certainly NOT asking for a pass; let me try to play the game with you and see where we get. If you deem me scummy, then i failed, easy.  

 

Nyn, i understand your concern. I probably would mention it too if another player would 'go for meta'. Just let me try to get you to know me, or, as i said earlier, allow me to give you insight :wink:

 

Like this post a lot.

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I'm pretty sure Leelou told me Verb posting spideymemes is a scumtell.

 

[v]## Verbal [/v]

No, not fully. Posting nothing but spidey memes would be a warning sign.

See! it's a thing. I'm not lying.

 

 

 

 

I'm pretty sure Leelou told me Verb posting spideymemes is a scumtell.

 

[v]## Verbal [/v]

No, not fully. Posting nothing but spidey memes would be a warning sign.

See! it's a thing. I'm not lying.

 

 

Actually, I would argue that blue there is a ping from Leelou.  She knows very well that I always post Spidey regardless of alignment, and that the amount posted coincides with the atmosphere of the thread.  Serious really early?  Prob a minimum amount of Spidey.  Spammy/fluffy early?  Open season, baby.

 

So, yeah.  Interesting response from Leelou.

 

So here Leelou pointing out something is a ping

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm pretty sure Leelou told me Verb posting spideymemes is a scumtell.

 

[v]## Verbal [/v]

No, not fully. Posting nothing but spidey memes would be a warning sign.

See! it's a thing. I'm not lying.

 

 

 

 

I'm pretty sure Leelou told me Verb posting spideymemes is a scumtell.

 

[v]## Verbal [/v]

No, not fully. Posting nothing but spidey memes would be a warning sign.

See! it's a thing. I'm not lying.

 

 

Actually, I would argue that blue there is a ping from Leelou.  She knows very well that I always post Spidey regardless of alignment, and that the amount posted coincides with the atmosphere of the thread.  Serious really early?  Prob a minimum amount of Spidey.  Spammy/fluffy early?  Open season, baby.

 

So, yeah.  Interesting response from Leelou.

 

 

You've been known to bury the thread in Spidey as scum. 

 

 

Really?  Can you help me remember when I did this?

 

And you're questioning her on it.

 

Verb I've been scum with you before when you said "lol ill just bury the thread in spidey memes, town is all over the place anyways so won't notice" or something along those lines

Yet when Des points it out here

 

 

 

It was awhile ago. 

 

Incidentally, while Des gets some townie points for his answer, you lost a few.  Don't do this to me! 

 

 

 

 

Verb I've been scum with you before when you said "lol ill just bury the thread in spidey memes, town is all over the place anyways so won't notice" or something along those lines

 

Good answer.  Townie posts to offset the scum points your hydra earned. 

 

 

 

 

here's something i find odd: i said that Verbal and Csarmi were scum together (which, evidently, means you too Des), and nobody even commented on that. Either it needs to stay hidden or nobody truely pays attention to what i post. (i guess number 2)

 

I'm sorry, but more of the 2nd.  I find a lot of spam in your posts throughout the game and I probably miss stuff that I should be paying attention to.  I'm spamming right now, too, but it pretty much ends after D1.

 

He gets town credit for saying the same thing.  

 

 

 

i WAS expecting something from either you, Leelou or Csarmi... like i usually get when i post silly things like that. Des usually gives me hell as soon as he sees me doing something like that, and now he only focused on my response to Barm's vote on me. For now, i think Csarmi's lack of and Des's way to reply are off. 

 

Can you imagine that i find this a bit odd? It's unusual... 

 

Well, I didn't say much about it because I was on your case for "silly stuff" last game and you were town.  Due to me misreading you, I'd rather sit back and observe more.

 

 
I don't think I've ever seen you sit back and observe.  I've got this problem right now where Verb looks internally inconsistent and yet Barm is a town lean in my mind.  Verb plz explain.
 

here's something i find odd: i said that Verbal and Csarmi were scum together (which, evidently, means you too Des), and nobody even commented on that. Either it needs to stay hidden or nobody truely pays attention to what i post. (i guess number 2)

 

I think it's too early to toss out such high conjecture.  Salami and Verb both are meh currently but Des and Barm look good despite both being eh on me IMO.  I wouldn't try to link anything yet.  

 

I saw it. Looked wolfy. Like you were trying to lay some bait out and see if others followed.

 

Def not much to back up a wolf connection between us so far (I also have the advantage of KNOWING were not scum together) so it seemed meh and lazy

 

I'm town, Thane so your connection makes no sense to me. Furthermore, i couldn't even see what on earth made you say that. So what sort of reaction did you expect?

 

Des looks so genuine this round that it's heightening my concern of Salami.  Look at how out of shape he got over this.  Also, you two gave vastly different responses to the same accusation to the same person.  Both were equally self centered but beyond that...  DES how can you place your POV on someone and try to push them for not knowing what you know about your alignment?  Salami why the overreaction?

 

Why are we talking about this? I'm not going to base my read on Thane on what he rolled in recent games and the fact that he got mislynched. Either we need to learn to read him better or he needs to adjust his play to be more readable. Or both. So lets put previous games aside cause they have no bearing on what he rolled this game.

 

I'm basically gonna try and understand where you're coming from, Thane, and make my own conclusions. But yeah, drop the previous games commentary. 

 

Gonna echo Krak here and say this post looks like town Nyn.  I usually suck at reading her but this gives me good vibes.

 

so, the way i see it, this is what's happening: i feel flattered about all the attention, but it also worries me. Wolves could easily support me here, and when i flip town, gain towncred for doing so.

 

I am certainly NOT asking for a pass; let me try to play the game with you and see where we get. If you deem me scummy, then i failed, easy.  

 

Nyn, i understand your concern. I probably would mention it too if another player would 'go for meta'. Just let me try to get you to know me, or, as i said earlier, allow me to give you insight :wink:

 

This is one of those things that it is better to be conscious of and not say.  I actually think that on you it looks townie despite being objectively a wolfy thing to say since it looks like bargaining.  

 

 

thanks for answering :happy: 

 

Now, how do you feel about the other players? I ask this to get to know your way of thinking, i doubt we ever played together before. 

 

We haven't. I'm just back from a multi-year break.

 

Still formulating my opinion on most. Liking Arsis, not liking Darthe.

 

 

I pity you that opinion.  

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Stelio, i'm looking forward to getting to know you as a player. I believe it's also our first game together. 

 

I do see some people mentioning Darthe... interesting. 

 

Good to be here.  (I think?)

 

From what little I have gathered of Darthe (which consists of talking to Tom pregame and half-assedly skimming a couple games) he seems like the type to get out over his skis -- which is why I'm not especially interested in dissecting exactly how seriously I should be taking the line of inquiry.

 

 

 

He's a player that can help town well if town, and can hide well as wolf. Interesting player, to put it like that. 

 

 

 

He's a player that can help town well if town, and can hide well as wolf. Interesting player, to put it like that.

He could also snatch defeat from the jaws of victory if he goes #FULLDARTHE.

 

 

 

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