[BASIC] Discworld Mafia - MAFIA win

Nolder · October 9, 2014

This is the exact opposite of what I wanted to see from you.

You already said you're having a tough time at work and I was willing to give you the extra day to catch up.

You should have taken it and made a better post.

[unvote]

[v]Hallia[/v]

So what? you want her to continue being inactive? She clearly stated she was scanning thru her brekky and was only on page 7. Effort beats inactivity while catching up. Did not like this post at all. Made me rethink my position above this one

What I wanted was for her to take her time and make a thoughtful post where she gives thoughts about everyone in the game.

Instead it seems to me like she chose a post almost at random and said "I agree with this" and followed it. I'm being accused of OMGUS but really, am I the only one who's going to be critical of that decision? Everyone is totally ok with that huh? Well maybe you are but respectfully I disagree with that choice and I find it scummy. I think she felt rushed and needed to get something out there, both to up her postcount/activity and to get a vote out for her fellow scum to work on. I think the townie thing would have to been to take time and get real reads to you know actually help town. Instead she reads to page 7 and makes a half assed vote. Townie level of thought doesn't come across in her attitude it's all selfish right now and that's why I see it as scum. You all see it as me attacking activity and OMGUS but I urge you look deeper than that and look at how her choices can be interpreted. Is she trying to be a good townie or is she playing to cover her own ass right now?

@nol An example of your lack of being clear. Now i thought i had quoted ure post i was replying to but it seems i havent. It was that one where you were talking about people but saying there were no votes. The way you said that could be taken 2 ways. I ASSUME you meant that those people were talking about you but not voting however it could also be read as you saying there were no votes on you which the post above clearly shows is untrue.

I know I miscommunicate sometimes. If you ever need clarification just ask.

I don't like people saying "this guy is scum" and not voting them.

It's a classic scum move to gauge other peoples opinion about the person.

If someone is gonna call me scum they're gonna vote me and live with the consequences of that.

I know I'm town and any scum I can get to vote me is just a future nail in their coffin when I die.

See why people sometimes find you unclear? Ive read thru the game and I still do not know why you think verb is mafia. saying he failed a reaction test tells me nothing. HOW did he fail it? WHY do you view whatever he did as a fail?

I thought I explained this already?

Maybe you missed it. I didn't like the way Verbal joked and posted spidey meme after Krak called him scum.

I said it could be a coincidence and Verbal said it was but I took it as him being nervous for being called out so early and trying to bury it with posts. Like I said though I've moved on. There are far more tangible things to worry about now.

Nolder · October 9, 2014

Our reads so far (in no particular order).

Town Leans:

Tina

Verbal

Wolfish

Cory

Null:

Dice

Yates

Barm

Scum leans:

Hallia

Krak

Nolder

Something that's been bugging me and I went back to check is this post.

I looked around for a list of Leelou's and Krak even asked her directly if she agreed with this list Nyn posted but she didn't answer.

If Leelou posted another list I couldn't find it so I'm assuming when Nyn said this is our reads that's exactly what she meant.

Now, how is it that they're in perfect agreement?

I find that very strange. Did they take the time to hash out the differences in opinion or was there some method of combining?

Like if one person thought Yates was scum and the other thought he was town, did that make him null? Or something else?

Or are we supposed to believe they were both in perfect agreement about everyone in the game down to the exact same null reads?

Maybe there's a good explanation for this and if there is I'd like to hear it.

This is something that's been bugging me since this list was posted and I've finally had the time to think about why.

Cory Caboose · October 9, 2014

i'm baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack

Nolder · October 9, 2014

Here's my own reads right now btw.

Tina

Mish/Kronos

Krak

Verb

Dice

Cory

Leelou/Nyn

Hallia

Yates

Barm

Cory Caboose · October 9, 2014

lolNolder

Cory Caboose · October 9, 2014

Nolder basically repeating my reads list and then throwing me as his lowest orange ~10 pages later is just hilarious to me

If I'm dead wrong today Nolder is trying to press my reads and then flip them back on me later

Happy with LouNy/Nolder wagons today

Nolder · October 9, 2014

Basically or exactly?

This is my read list like it or not.

And the order isn't important just the color.

You're not the "lowest orange".

Cory Caboose · October 9, 2014

I haven't been reading your posts because looking at salmon color makes me nauseous

I'll read to see if anything there makes sense but this is probably not a good look

Nolder · October 9, 2014

I haven't been reading your posts because looking at salmon color makes me nauseous

I'll read to see if anything there makes sense but this is probably not a good look

I'm sorry. I can't help that.

Try copy/pasting into a notepad or something?

Leelou · October 9, 2014

Our reads so far (in no particular order).

Town Leans:

Tina

Verbal

Wolfish

Cory

Null:

Dice

Yates

Barm

Scum leans:

Hallia

Krak

Nolder

Something that's been bugging me and I went back to check is this post.
I looked around for a list of Leelou's and Krak even asked her directly if she agreed with this list Nyn posted but she didn't answer.

If Leelou posted another list I couldn't find it so I'm assuming when Nyn said this is our reads that's exactly what she meant.

Now, how is it that they're in perfect agreement?

I find that very strange. Did they take the time to hash out the differences in opinion or was there some method of combining?

Like if one person thought Yates was scum and the other thought he was town, did that make him null? Or something else?

Or are we supposed to believe they were both in perfect agreement about everyone in the game down to the exact same null reads?

Maybe there's a good explanation for this and if there is I'd like to hear it.

This is something that's been bugging me since this list was posted and I've finally had the time to think about why.

We have a hydra qt where we talk.

Verbal32 · October 9, 2014

@Cory - just highlight his posts with your mouse - I'm doing that and it makes it more manageable. The salmon color hurts my eyes, too.

I think both Nol and Leelou/nyn are mafia. I have a slight tinfoil that only one is and in that case id say its leelou/nyn.

im gonna vote nolder because i do think he is mafia and if he flips town then he cements my certainty about leelou/nyn.

I don't think you addressed this, but I have a question. If you think both might be mafia, but if only one was it would be Leelou/Nyn, then why are you voting Nolder? Based on what you've said, the best vote would be Leelou/Nyn. Can you elaborate?

I thought I explained this already?
Maybe you missed it. I didn't like the way Verbal joked and posted spidey meme after Krak called him scum.
I said it could be a coincidence and Verbal said it was but I took it as him being nervous for being called out so early and trying to bury it with posts. Like I said though I've moved on. There are far more tangible things to worry about now.

Nol, you can't possibly call what Krak did "calling me out". It is laughable. I can't believe I'm still needing to address this. You saw my post, where I interacted with Barm & Nyn in my 1st post. You've seen my entrance into countless games on multiple sites at this point. To have you actually think Krak's silly 'catch' had any merit is really making me wonder. Your last handful of posts are giving me a town vibe, but then you interject this junk again.

i'm baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack

Good. Can you check my above comment on Dice? I have him as town, but that vote and reasoning didn't make sense to me on why he'd vote Nolder over Leelou/Nyn in the same post where he explained his little tinfoil. Thoughts?

Nolder · October 9, 2014

Our reads so far (in no particular order).

Town Leans:

Tina

Verbal

Wolfish

Cory

Null:

Dice

Yates

Barm

Scum leans:

Hallia

Krak

Nolder

Something that's been bugging me and I went back to check is this post.
I looked around for a list of Leelou's and Krak even asked her directly if she agreed with this list Nyn posted but she didn't answer.

If Leelou posted another list I couldn't find it so I'm assuming when Nyn said this is our reads that's exactly what she meant.

Now, how is it that they're in perfect agreement?

I find that very strange. Did they take the time to hash out the differences in opinion or was there some method of combining?

Like if one person thought Yates was scum and the other thought he was town, did that make him null? Or something else?

Or are we supposed to believe they were both in perfect agreement about everyone in the game down to the exact same null reads?

Maybe there's a good explanation for this and if there is I'd like to hear it.

This is something that's been bugging me since this list was posted and I've finally had the time to think about why.

We have a hydra qt where we talk.

That doesn't explain how you both came to the exact same conclusions.

Are we supposed to believe you're both in perfect agreement? Did you hash out the differences? If so, how?

Nolder · October 9, 2014

I thought I explained this already?

Maybe you missed it. I didn't like the way Verbal joked and posted spidey meme after Krak called him scum.

I said it could be a coincidence and Verbal said it was but I took it as him being nervous for being called out so early and trying to bury it with posts. Like I said though I've moved on. There are far more tangible things to worry about now.

Nol, you can't possibly call what Krak did "calling me out". It is laughable. I can't believe I'm still needing to address this. You saw my post, where I interacted with Barm & Nyn in my 1st post. You've seen my entrance into countless games on multiple sites at this point. To have you actually think Krak's silly 'catch' had any merit is really making me wonder. Your last handful of posts are giving me a town vibe, but then you interject this junk again.

This is the kind of thing that makes me nervous about you Verbal.

I've already moved on I was just reexplaining for Dice since he still seemed confused.

Just explaining my thought process again seems to have bothered you to the point where you need to respond.

And I didn't say Krak's post had merit I always said it was your reaction to the post that bothered me.

Basically you justified it after the fact not that it was spot on from the getgo.

This is exactly why you're orange and not green right now.

Leelou · October 9, 2014

Our reads so far (in no particular order).

Town Leans:

Tina

Verbal

Wolfish

Cory

Null:

Dice

Yates

Barm

Scum leans:

Hallia

Krak

Nolder

Something that's been bugging me and I went back to check is this post.
I looked around for a list of Leelou's and Krak even asked her directly if she agreed with this list Nyn posted but she didn't answer.

If Leelou posted another list I couldn't find it so I'm assuming when Nyn said this is our reads that's exactly what she meant.

Now, how is it that they're in perfect agreement?

I find that very strange. Did they take the time to hash out the differences in opinion or was there some method of combining?

Like if one person thought Yates was scum and the other thought he was town, did that make him null? Or something else?

Or are we supposed to believe they were both in perfect agreement about everyone in the game down to the exact same null reads?

Maybe there's a good explanation for this and if there is I'd like to hear it.

This is something that's been bugging me since this list was posted and I've finally had the time to think about why.

We have a hydra qt where we talk.

That doesn't explain how you both came to the exact same conclusions.
Are we supposed to believe you're both in perfect agreement? Did you hash out the differences? If so, how?

We talked about everyone and came to a consensus. Why does this boggle your mind? She said our reads, not hers.

Cory Caboose · October 9, 2014

8 PM EOD?

Will try to reread the whole thread by then

Ugh I'm in two games with the same phase change time

Nolder · October 9, 2014

Our reads so far (in no particular order).

Town Leans:

Tina

Verbal

Wolfish

Cory

Null:

Dice

Yates

Barm

Scum leans:

Hallia

Krak

Nolder

Something that's been bugging me and I went back to check is this post.
I looked around for a list of Leelou's and Krak even asked her directly if she agreed with this list Nyn posted but she didn't answer.

If Leelou posted another list I couldn't find it so I'm assuming when Nyn said this is our reads that's exactly what she meant.

Now, how is it that they're in perfect agreement?

I find that very strange. Did they take the time to hash out the differences in opinion or was there some method of combining?

Like if one person thought Yates was scum and the other thought he was town, did that make him null? Or something else?

Or are we supposed to believe they were both in perfect agreement about everyone in the game down to the exact same null reads?

Maybe there's a good explanation for this and if there is I'd like to hear it.

This is something that's been bugging me since this list was posted and I've finally had the time to think about why.

We have a hydra qt where we talk.
That doesn't explain how you both came to the exact same conclusions.
Are we supposed to believe you're both in perfect agreement? Did you hash out the differences? If so, how?

We talked about everyone and came to a consensus. Why does this boggle your mind? She said our reads, not hers.

Ok. So how did you come to a consensus though?

Like when there was a difference of opinion how did you decide what to go with?

Nynaeve · October 9, 2014

Ok. So how did you come to a consensus though?

Like when there was a difference of opinion how did you decide what to go with?

I'm not sure how much experience you have with games that have hydras in them, but it's common practice for hydra partners to hash out reads on the QT and then share it on thread. Lee has more experience with reading some of the players on the roster, like Verbal, Barm and so on. I have more experience with reading Cory, Hallia and so on. So we set down, talked about it and made our conclusion.

I don't really understand why you're tunneling about this. But in a nutshell, we trust each other and are well aware of each other's mafia games history with the other players and basically who we're more experienced in reading.

Nynaeve · October 9, 2014

Also... came back from a BBQ and it was REALLY good. ^_^

Nolder · October 9, 2014

I'm not sure you guys are understanding where my concern is.

Take my Yates example. One of you thinks he's town, the other thinks he's scum.

How do you reconcile that? You just deferred to whoever you think can read him better?

Cory Caboose · October 9, 2014

Also... came back from a BBQ and it was REALLY good. ^_^

Good to hear

We're going to have roasted LouNy for dinner tonight :flamingsword:

Leelou · October 9, 2014

I'm not sure you guys are understanding where my concern is.

Take my Yates example. One of you thinks he's town, the other thinks he's scum.

How do you reconcile that? You just deferred to whoever you think can read him better?

Neither of us thought he's scummy. We have him as a high null.

Cory Caboose · October 9, 2014

Add Hallia to the wagon mix

LouNy/Nolder/Hallia

great success wagons imo

Nynaeve · October 9, 2014

Also... came back from a BBQ and it was REALLY good. ^_^

Good to hear

We're going to have roasted LouNy for dinner tonight

Liked it a lot more when you couldn't talk. Fond memories.

Barmacral · October 9, 2014

Ok. So how did you come to a consensus though?

Like when there was a difference of opinion how did you decide what to go with?

I'm not sure how much experience you have with games that have hydras in them, but it's common practice for hydra partners to hash out reads on the QT and then share it on thread. Lee has more experience with reading some of the players on the roster, like Verbal, Barm and so on. I have more experience with reading Cory, Hallia and so on. So we set down, talked about it and made our conclusion.

I don't really understand why you're tunneling about this. But in a nutshell, we trust each other and are well aware of each other's mafia games history with the other players and basically who we're more experienced in reading.

This is useful to know, I was trying to figure out what a hydra QT was.

Verbal32 · October 9, 2014

@Nolder - here you go. The entire interaction between Krak and I to start the game - nothing is left out.

Sup. But now bed. Bye.

Tease.

Worth*

Fail of the game: Accomplished.

hahahaha

^

Scum Verb makes his appearance.

^

Scum Verb makes his appearance.

Dude, my first mafia post in over 2 months and you nail me straight off? Amazing!

Worth*

Fail of the game: Accomplished.

hahahaha

At least there's a beginning and an end to my fail

Hmm...yeah. I'll let you know when I experience the beginning.

^

Scum Verb makes his appearance.

Dude, my first mafia post in over 2 months and you nail me straight off? Amazing!

Anyone?

^

Scum Verb makes his appearance.

Dude, my first mafia post in over 2 months and you nail me straight off? Amazing!

Anyone?

Who are you talking to?

anyone

[v]Krak[/v]

Works better.

reported

[v]Krak[/v]

Works better.

reported

Good, I'll ban the jerk.

Nolder

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