[Standard] Cory vs. Bad Dietary Habits & Laziness Mafia, Mafia Sweep

[hazelkrs1]

Damn hit post too early

 

Krak I meant to respond to your first quote about that- no, Turin didn't really respond to that point. Certainly not in a satisfactory manner. He tried saying he said "plausible" ALSO to test Salami.

 

I don't buy it but both Turin and Vos look wretched. Not sure which is more likely to be mafia, or if they can't be teammates here.

[Tommyrod]

 

Official Vote Count:

 

Arsis (5) – manbat , dice, Pral, Darthe, Halligeddon

TI (2) –  GleMeri, Arsis

SickPuppets (1) - Yates

Nervositee (5) - Des, Tomstress, TheSlenderMan, AJ, TI

 

Not Voting (4): everyone else

 

With 17 alive, it takes 9 to lynch!

 

Deadline: Thursday, 9pm EST.

 

 

I like far more of the people on the Vos wagon than on the Arsis wagon. Or should I say, the quality of my town read on them is much better.

[Turin Turambar]

Did Turin ever respond to Des' post here?

I can give.my thought process.

 

I saw the claim. I really didn't expect a miller in a standard game which I look at as effectively basic. But lately everyone else has been saying that if miller claim right away. I wanted to "go along with" general theory and see what happened. I had come our of a recent game that I has gone hard at a miller claim. So there was me being different. I asked for his flavor which he gave. I said it was plausible. Csarmi who was the person to claim miller in that last game asked how I felt. I kept the soft acceptance going to see what he would say particularly. He questioned. Ithi saw the miller claim and voted it. We had talked after the other game that miller in this environment is a reasonable fake claim especially in a game that is likely only going to have a cop. She voted him before I knew it. I would have kept going longer but her vote and having already got csarmi to respond put the reason as low gain. So I went on to question. I trusted csarmi went he said that miller is possible in standard games. (Side question: is Sk within the range for standard as well?).

 

I still think that people are too willing to mark Someone town for that claim. Related question, if you have one person that claims miller and another that claims vt, both about the same itt. Who is the better lynch?

 

Once I was looking ay TG his actions didn't.match his words so to.me that is the biggest mafia tell for anyone. Meri said something odd in one of her post about Ithi too. She said that she hopes Ithi can get her things resolved and get back into the game. Which wouldn't.be weird if she didn't vote us in the same post. Maybe I read it wrong.

 

Btw Despo, you stated that you thought the lynch the miller claim had merit if it hadn't come from me due to lack.of credibility. A good idea isn't tarnished.by the messenger.

 

Did I.miss something. Phone only posting is a pita.

[Krakalakachkn]

I'm gonna stand by my earlier comment about Vos.

 

[v]Turillian[/v]

[Andrej]

Lynch Vos then.

 

If he flips scum then feel free to come at me all you want D2.

[Andrej]

And now I need to leave for work.

I won't be here for DL as that's around the time I'll be getting off work, but I'll try to peek the thread regardless.

[Tommyrod]

So you're going to respond to my post and use it to more or less defend Hallia and then tell me I'm posting nonsense?

Don't think I like this post from Krak when it came on the heels of Arsis being the top wagon.

[Tommyrod]

I'm gonna stand by my earlier comment about Vos.

 

[v]Turillian[/v]

Remind me why you think Vos will flip town? Just because he's always scummy? Has he said anything that seems town-like though? You need that too.

[Turin Turambar]

Despo do you have a won't lynch list? Same thing. As it works right now all the candidates are on my wtl list. Except myself.

 

I am still at.my stop so can keep posting for a while.

 

If I am the lynch so be it. Just do as I ask and consider what I have said after I flip town.

[Tommyrod]

Lynch Vos then.

 

If he flips scum then feel free to come at me all you want D2.

I'm confused. Who are you talking to? Do you think Vos will flip town or scum? This post is so... what? Lol. Am I crazy?

[hazelkrs1]

 

Did Turin ever respond to Des' post here?

I can give.my thought process.

 

I saw the claim. I really didn't expect a miller in a standard game which I look at as effectively basic. But lately everyone else has been saying that if miller claim right away. I wanted to "go along with" general theory and see what happened. I had come our of a recent game that I has gone hard at a miller claim. So there was me being different. I asked for his flavor which he gave. I said it was plausible. Csarmi who was the person to claim miller in that last game asked how I felt. I kept the soft acceptance going to see what he would say particularly. He questioned. Ithi saw the miller claim and voted it. We had talked after the other game that miller in this environment is a reasonable fake claim especially in a game that is likely only going to have a cop. She voted him before I knew it. I would have kept going longer but her vote and having already got csarmi to respond put the reason as low gain. So I went on to question. I trusted csarmi went he said that miller is possible in standard games. (Side question: is Sk within the range for standard as well?).

 

I still think that people are too willing to mark Someone town for that claim. Related question, if you have one person that claims miller and another that claims vt, both about the same itt. Who is the better lynch?

 

Once I was looking ay TG his actions didn't.match his words so to.me that is the biggest mafia tell for anyone. Meri said something odd in one of her post about Ithi too. She said that she hopes Ithi can get her things resolved and get back into the game. Which wouldn't.be weird if she didn't vote us in the same post. Maybe I read it wrong.

 

Btw Despo, you stated that you thought the lynch the miller claim had merit if it hadn't come from me due to lack.of credibility. A good idea isn't tarnished.by the messenger.

 

Did I.miss something. Phone only posting is a pita.

 

 

First bold: looks completely contrived and fake to me. You went ahead with the soft acceptance? Nuh uh, not buying it

 

First italics: People weren't marking TG as town solely for the claim, and you KEEP trying to act like this is the case. It was the WAY he claimed and the way he instantly backed up his claim with a bunch of protown play

 

Underlined: Entirely situational. Pretty friggin hard for two people to be "both about the same ITT"

 

Second bold: That was a total reach on your part. Townies can handle mutliple scum reads. You were trying to misrep him by acting like he wasnt being firm in his stance on you and Ithi

 

Second italics: Not that a miller claim is a good lynch period, but without a good consensus read a miller lynch is a good backup lynch, since it IS a negative utility role. But you're wrong- a good idea can CERTAINLY be tarnished by a messenger in mafia. Often times it's not just what angle you're pushing, but who else is pushing it with you. Scum can push protown looking concepts as well even if it fits their agenda

[Tommyrod]

Despo do you have a won't lynch list? Same thing. As it works right now all the candidates are on my wtl list. Except myself.

 

I am still at.my stop so can keep posting for a while.

 

If I am the lynch so be it. Just do as I ask and consider what I have said after I flip town.

I am unhappy with this. I think you might flip town. In fact I'm fairly sure you will. So... I don't... like that the primary wagons appear to be townies to me...

[Tommyrod]

If Turin is scum he's pretty good at leaving townie nuggets in his posts.

[Turin Turambar]

@slender, I think AJ is playing it cool. He is not likely to be lynched today.

[Yates]

Arsis is town.

I've been pro Arsis for a while now. About time you caught on.

[Tommyrod]

Krak... I'm concerned that I'm seeing zero of the gusto you had last game. I know you were ill, but have you done anything at all?

[hazelkrs1]

Despo do you have a won't lynch list? Same thing. As it works right now all the candidates are on my wtl list. Except myself.

 

I am still at.my stop so can keep posting for a while.

 

If I am the lynch so be it. Just do as I ask and consider what I have said after I flip town.

 

There's still a difference between "I'm willing to lynch anyone on this list" and "I'm willing to consolidate on any of my scum reads"

 

Consolidate specifically means you're voting more to secure a lynch, not go with your top scum reads. It's an unnecessary and irrelevant word there, so you including it looks like scum tripping up over their wording and also possibly you ditching responsibility for a vote later on - because it's for "consolidation" while still trying to look protown and make it seem like you are only willing to lynch your scum reads

 

Basically talking out of both corners of your mouth

[TheSlenderMan]

 

 

Official Vote Count:

 

Arsis (5) – manbat , dice, Pral, Darthe, Halligeddon

TI (2) –  GleMeri, Arsis

SickPuppets (1) - Yates

Nervositee (5) - Des, Tomstress, TheSlenderMan, AJ, TI

 

Not Voting (4): everyone else

 

With 17 alive, it takes 9 to lynch!

 

Deadline: Thursday, 9pm EST.

 

 

I like far more of the people on the Vos wagon than on the Arsis wagon. Or should I say, the quality of my town read on them is much better.

 

Never voiced this opinion outloud but my thoughts as well.

[hazelkrs1]

 

Despo do you have a won't lynch list? Same thing. As it works right now all the candidates are on my wtl list. Except myself.

 

I am still at.my stop so can keep posting for a while.

 

If I am the lynch so be it. Just do as I ask and consider what I have said after I flip town.

I am unhappy with this. I think you might flip town. In fact I'm fairly sure you will. So... I don't... like that the primary wagons appear to be townies to me...

 

 

You think Vos is town?

 

[Tommyrod]

 

Arsis is town.

I've been pro Arsis for a while now. About time you caught on.

I haven't had him as a serious scum candidate for a while... I think he's in love with me though.

 

I think AJ is scum but I still don't want to lynch him today, let cop investigate him or something.

[Tommyrod]

 

 

 

Despo do you have a won't lynch list? Same thing. As it works right now all the candidates are on my wtl list. Except myself.

 

I am still at.my stop so can keep posting for a while.

 

If I am the lynch so be it. Just do as I ask and consider what I have said after I flip town.

I am unhappy with this. I think you might flip town. In fact I'm fairly sure you will. So... I don't... like that the primary wagons appear to be townies to me...

You think Vos is town?

 

He could be. But I was talking about Arsis and Turin, they've been talked about by far the most. Vos is a relatively new addition.

[hazelkrs1]

I dunno, both wagons look kinda clean to me tbh. Pray and Dice kinda meh on the Arsis wagon, and TI on the Vos wagon not surprising, neither is AJ even tho he's potential deep wolf

 

Anyways, Niki's home so no mafia for me anymore

 

[Tommyrod]

Arsis and Turin have also collect a lot of what I'll term "flop votes", votes which do not come accompanied with a lot of discussion or interrogating. Like if Turin flips town I don't think Des is scummy for pushing him. But someone like Hallia dropping a vote on him is weird to me because neither Hallia nor Salami have interrogated him that I recall. You see me what I mean?

 

I also think Manbat might be scum simply because he doesn't appear that interested in game solving and as a villager he generally is. But this might just be me getting worried when he's not posting again, not sure.

[Yates]

I think AJ is scum but I still don't want to lynch him today, let cop investigate him or something.

Or something. AJ is more gut than anything game related, though. I'll have a better read on him by tomorrow.

[Tommyrod]

Arsis and Turin have also collect a lot of what I'll term "flop votes", votes which do not come accompanied with a lot of discussion or interrogating. Like if Turin flips town I don't think Des is scummy for pushing him. But someone like Hallia dropping a vote on him is weird to me because neither Hallia nor Salami have interrogated him that I recall. You see me what I mean?

 

I also think Manbat might be scum simply because he doesn't appear that interested in game solving and as a villager he generally is. But this might just be me getting worried when he's not posting again, not sure.