[Standard] Cory vs. Bad Dietary Habits & Laziness Mafia, Mafia Sweep

[Tyler Glembo]

 

Idk why everyone keeps forgetting me i think I've been pretty ingrained in the thread tbh :(

 

Point me to a post you made that had original content.

 

 

Let me rephrase.  Double phrase.  W/e. 

 

Looking back at you I don't see you engaging single players nearly as much as making general comments about the game, who you find scummy, etc.  It's easy to remember somebody you got into an argument with on thread or who engaged you specifically, it's hard to remember somebody who posted general thread thoughts.

[Tyler Glembo]

*looks at this page*

 

*blinks*

 

*nods head*

 

Yup.

 

Only "original" thought I've seen from you is the bit on Tom's "kill'em'all" scummentality.  Point out more.

[Pralaya]

Darthe - his vote on vos looked bad because it was more like a "I need to vote before deadline to show that I am an interested townie" kind of way and voted on the consensus. This was after his failed push at csarmi. Also, he tried nudging Tommy a lot like the other scum reads I have. Plus his "I am confused" post on D2 looks fake.

[monstrman]

No, and I probably should have been. Like I said I guess it's probably mostly my fault that I've been forgettable in this game and it's probably just because of lack of effort.

 

I keep wanting to reread the thread. I keep meaning to reread the thread. I want to give my thoughts. I just... don't.

 

But I'm going to fix that right now and within the hour I'll give you an in depth analysis of my opinion on turin.

 

From what I recall as far as I'd read turin I had turin at slightly villagery and Ithi at slightly wolfy which was seriously disorienting and made me want to not try and read the hydra players at all. It's why tom stress has been tom and at the beginning of the game halligeddon was just hallia. It's probably not the best way to go about it but I really didn't want my own personal issues reading specific players I didn't know to try and affect how I was reading the slot as a whole.

 

I mean generally speaking I avoid reading players that I'm unfamiliar with for a large portion of the game because I have problems reading players without meta backing it sometimes. Sometimes I don't, but I guess it was just... easier.

[hazelkrs1]

 

Tommy lynching Ithi as scum can be sorta like lynching you as anything- she will make it a painful and slow process. Like pulling teeth, as Csarmi has described lynching you.

 

I don't think she's lied bout anything but her alignment, Fwiw. I AM pretty confident they'll flip scum tho. They're posting a good bit but they're still in antispew mode.

 

Any time you ask them for fresh reads or anything they fall back on stale reads and stances (TG) or OMGUSish reads like with Darthe (which could still potentially be distancing btw). The ONE "read" I saw that wasn't one of those two recently was Dice and that was pretty poorly supported

I feel you. But where's their scum team? Are they afraid to question us? Are they AFK?

I don't think it's unreasonable to say we might have a true WILf team situation going on. If you were scum and a Miller came out and essentially took away the negative utility of their role, one of the only scapegoats then got lynched (Vos) and all the other townies are towntelling hard and clearing one another while POEing your team down, isn't is feasible your WIM would suffer a bit mebbe?

[monstrman]

I hope you know that I'm rereading the thread on a phone and I hate all of you for it.

[Pralaya]

Yates, I will talk in detail tomorrow. Have a half done case.

 

Pral - What about TI makes you read them town?

Mostly his interactions on D1 around the whole Miller thing. I don't think a scum would go that hard against the consensus and bring attention to themselves. They also have had reads very similar to mine.

[Tommyrod]

Darthe - his vote on vos looked bad because it was more like a "I need to vote before deadline to show that I am an interested townie" kind of way and voted on the consensus. This was after his failed push at csarmi. Also, he tried nudging Tommy a lot like the other scum reads I have. Plus his "I am confused" post on D2 looks fake.

What do you mean about the nudging? When did Darthe nudge me?

[Pralaya]

I am on phone, so hard to find exact post. But he was one of the first to talk about how you are sneaky or slimy. On D1

[Darthe]

In my head I've been having this battle:

 

"If they're scum and doomed to be lynched why are they still posting nonsense at all? Why aren't they being bused by anyone right now? Why is the thread not more rustled if scum is wagoned?" vs. "If they're town why are they still posting nonsense instead of getting furious and villagery and putting in serious effort to solve?"

if that is your only conflict you should thinc them town

[csarmi]

Okay I'm leaving the thread in Hally's hands. I hope I won't wake up tonight.

[Arsis]

Could turi/Ithi just be mad that their team just isn't here and abandoned them and are trying to stall to see if they come in?

 

@pral,I don't remember Darthe nudging tommy. I thought he said he has a town read.

 

@man I'm on a phone as well.

[Tommyrod]

 

In my head I've been having this battle:

 

"If they're scum and doomed to be lynched why are they still posting nonsense at all? Why aren't they being bused by anyone right now? Why is the thread not more rustled if scum is wagoned?" vs. "If they're town why are they still posting nonsense instead of getting furious and villagery and putting in serious effort to solve?"

if that is your only conflict you should thinc them town

Thank you for this post. It has helped me immensely.

[monstrman]

I made it to page 15 and already want to kill myself.

 

I'm probably gonna skip reading d1 and jump straight to the meat of the argument tbh

[monstrman]

Fwiw the lack of vote movement has left me nervous irt ti being lead wagon

 

Anyway continuing my read

[Pralaya]

Cool so here  are three things I am seeing that interest me.

 

Turin/Ithi look more townish since they aren't closing themselves off and narrowing their focus.  I'll need a bit more from Ithi to be sure but they would have become more dogged and stopped spreading out as scum by now IMO.

 

Tommy is really playing to the crowd this game.  That isn't outside of his town game (it fits quite well with him, he always tries to match his audience) but it is odd to me how much effort he is putting into making sure that others have a good understanding of new players.  The onus should be on them to do that and yet he is taking over, which begs the question of his motivation for doing so rather than finding mafia.  I'd like to hear more on that from him.

 

Yates looks really town this game.  I know, every single time we say that he ends up as scum (For those of you who haven't played with scum Yates he is on par with D1 Cory/Vix as town, aka scary good.  I haven't seen him die in a year or so, much less lose.)  I think that his approach to the whole thing he is doing with Tommy looks really authentic so at the very least I doubt that t

 

hey will be on a team together but with either of them I will find it hard to trust them if they live long at all.

Posts like this is what I am talking about. Slight nudge that Tommy could be scum without taking a stance on him. Looked scummy while reading the game at a stretch, which is why I kinda remembered it. There are a couple of similar posts too.

[monstrman]

I also always prefer that town has two wagons over one or three because those are bad numbers and two is a good number.

 

Also two wagons allows the wolves the least amount of pull on where the votes go, and also greatly limits their options ESPECIALLY if we end up with a wolf at the end of one of them.

 

So I'd like to see some sort of consensus on a second not ti wagon tbh. I'd like to hear from everyone on who they think should fall under This category

[Turin Turambar]

My choices would be darthe, krak or arsis.

 

Darthe currently looks to.be trying to distance from our lynch.is he still voting us?

 

Krak for wolfy end of day 1 and vanishing again all day 2.

 

Arsis because his responses to doubt shown by others is to try to twist events to.match his vision.

[hazelkrs1]

Surprisingly I'd be somewhat down for a Krak or Darthe CFD, even with how I feel about TI

[Tommyrod]

Krak or Pral or Yates or TSB are people I have strong doubts about.

 

Out of this list I think the odds of them flipping town are, from most to least:

 

Yates [unless Krak is scum]

Pral

Krak

TSB

 

Which may be a funny way of presenting this but that's where I'm at. I would make Krak the counter wagon over TSB because he's still playing and has more spew to offer. I would prefer to vig/poison TSB depending on who controls that mechanic.

[Tommyrod]

[unvote]

 

[v]Krak[/v]

 

Krak please contribute more if you're town

[Tommyrod]

Monstr you are scum aren't you?

 

Might CFD onto Monstr actually

[Arsis]

We doing this? I'm down. [unvote] [v]krak[/v]

 

I was on him since his scummy intro eod.

[Turin Turambar]

[unvote]

 

[V] krak [/v]

[Tommyrod]

Problem I have with a CFD at all is if it means another 96 hours of being trolled by the goofus twins