[Advanced] Avengers - Age of Ultron (GAME OVER!)

[Tyler Glembo]

 

 

Vigging you tonight TG.

 

In fact, I'm dead F#$@ing serious.  Vig me tonight and see what happens. 

 

Hey! Stop stealing my bullets!

 

 

Lenlo, don't come after me tonight.  I'm serious.  Let Tommy come after me.   He won't die but it'll make the game better for everyone.

[Xthrax]

Is it just me or are X defending me?

 

I'm town but I haven't been on top of my game at all yet. Fine I've been misrepped alot but With what ive put into this game I'm very suspicious of people sticking up for me at this point.

It's not defending you. It's me thinking about why you are that read with only one post of yours being commented upon in his catchup post. 

[Darthe]

I am game to lynch Nol or Red only.  Pick one and shuffle there folks.

[Tyler Glembo]

 

You're not conf town. Let's test you over the next few lynches by NOT lynching you now, gain a ish ton of info, and then lynch you. Pretty clear.

We are never lynching me. This is legit scummy of you to say.

 

 

Hey Tommy, I have this Power where I get to know people's alignments over the course of the game.  I'll tell you their alignments as it happens.  Of course, you'll never know if I'm telling the truth since you don't know my alignment.  I'll have somebody vouch for me in thread, could be a scummate or could be my mason partner.  You'll never know.

 

 

Sound believeable?  No?   Because that is what I'm getting from you so far.  Lynching you AFTER you give us tons of info will seal the game for town.  Yet somehow you're against this.  

[RandA lThor]

Tommy I guess isn't clear yet, but his role seems town, its hard to see a role for mafia that would allow them to stop a lynch (they usually want to continue it), and plus the fact that he claimed to have a mason with a believable role as well makes me believe him a lot.

 

Arsis as Thor is most likely true as well.

 

Also, huge note, why the hell are we lynching Darthe?  We're confirming the character Captain Marvel.  Think about that for a sec, why has Captain Marvel been in 2 or 3 scenes already before Darthe claimed and Mynd had a chance to incorporate him into the scenes?  We're basically confirming someone who is almost already confirmed.

 

I'm going to go for a gut read based off of recent posts for now.

 

[v]Vos[/v]

 

When's deadline again?

[RandA lThor]

 

 

You're not conf town. Let's test you over the next few lynches by NOT lynching you now, gain a ish ton of info, and then lynch you. Pretty clear.

We are never lynching me. This is legit scummy of you to say.

 

 

Hey Tommy, I have this Power where I get to know people's alignments over the course of the game.  I'll tell you their alignments as it happens.  Of course, you'll never know if I'm telling the truth since you don't know my alignment.  I'll have somebody vouch for me in thread, could be a scummate or could be my mason partner.  You'll never know.

 

 

Sound believeable?  No?   Because that is what I'm getting from you so far.  Lynching you AFTER you give us tons of info will seal the game for town.  Yet somehow you're against this.  

 

We lynch the partner TG if it comes down to that, not Tommy since his role is valuable.

[keyholder21]

Uh, wow.

 

Okay, I don't see a reason Tommy would put that out there on D1 as scum OR third party. If either were the case, wouldn't it make more sense for him to keep that ability secret and hammer anyway?

 

Darthe, I don't get not wanting to lynch to test your claim/PM? Especially after you posted about how having any cleared townies is helpful.

 

I figured Arsis for Thor way back from his “when I drop the hammer, it stays dropped” comment a long time ago. Backed off him since bc I didn’t want to call attention to it.

[Tommyrod]

 

 

 

You're not conf town. Let's test you over the next few lynches by NOT lynching you now, gain a ish ton of info, and then lynch you. Pretty clear.

We are never lynching me. This is legit scummy of you to say.

Hey Tommy, I have this Power where I get to know people's alignments over the course of the game. I'll tell you their alignments as it happens. Of course, you'll never know if I'm telling the truth since you don't know my alignment. I'll have somebody vouch for me in thread, could be a scummate or could be my mason partner. You'll never know.

 

 

Sound believeable? No? Because that is what I'm getting from you so far. Lynching you AFTER you give us tons of info will seal the game for town. Yet somehow you're against this.

Why are you assuming scum won't just kill me you MORAN?

[Tyler Glembo]

 

Nolder is #LOCKCLEAR F#@$ING TOWN.  The fact that Tommy can't see how LockClear Nolder is for being the only person to actually  speak up about the circle jerk going on and remind the fearsome foursome that they aren't conf!town bothers me.  Tommy, play better.

Why do you consider Nolder to be Locktown for that. And why do you consider Tommy and Tsuki to be in a jerk circle for trying to stop a lynch that was building up very fast. If Darthe was scum, his teammates would have definitely tried to stop it much quicker and actually would have got it delayed contrary to how fast it was building. It's seems like a town mislynch if it got upto L-3 before anyone trying to stop it. 

 

 

A power that is kept entirely off thread and can only be taken at the word of a player?  Nolder was the only person talking sense while the rest of them got carried away.  If their powers are true, awesome, we can use them to win the game with a little coordination.  But being skeptical is a townie reaction.

[Nolder]

 

 

Bold-I thought you were all against people claiming. What happened? Why do you want his partner to claim? By your own logic-if they do, that'll be one more target for scum. This  is scummy.

Read that again.

Word by word.

And then tell me where the hell I said I wanted his partner to claim.

 

Italics-This is complete nonsense. Why don't you want to clear someone as town. As town-you're primary interests to be to stop town being lynched and to get scum lynched. Why don't you want to stop a town to be mislyched. And don't give that nonsense about  statistics being in favor of town lynched on D1.

I'm done arguing about it pretty much.

I will say that you're an idiot if you just want to assume Darthe is town after that self voting.

That's pretty much the most overtly scummy thing you can do in mafia.

And if he is town he's an idiot right along with you.

 

Bold-You said that-his partner claiming and thus vetting him is a back-up plan. Why would his partner claiming be a plan for you if you didn't want people to claim.

 

First of all, think about it for a second.

Why would I go off on people claiming if I wanted Tommy's partner to claim?

 

Now that you've taken a moment to think about it note, again, I never said I wanted Tommy's partner to claim.

I repeatedly asked him how he was going to confirm himself and then by proxy Darthe. FMPOV confirming Darthe to Tommy is pointless if we can't clear Tommy. I asked him more than once because I wanted to understand and I never really got a good answer. The partner claiming is the backup plan...but whats the main plan? I don't know and honestly I don't care anymore. Since I'm the only one sticking my neck out asking the unpopular questions and getting reamed for it. I'm done. If Tommy's scum (or worse gets confirmed and then recruited later) it's on the rest of you for trusting him without any hard proof.

 

This is completely not about Darthe. I believe Darthe to be town because his frustration seemed to be genuine. This is about Arsis saying that by using Tommy's power we can stop a mislynch and save a townie. According to you, that was a waste of time on D1. 

 

Call me an idiot. I don't care. The fact remains that you said what you did and I find that scummy.

So Darthe is frustrated and that seems genuine to you but my frustration seems fake? Contrived?

Whatever.

 

Bad phrasing. Not a waste of time, more like waste of...resources?

Why try to save someone on D1? We need deaths, even townie deaths, to help us determine who's scum.

We're pretty much flying on blind assumptions until we have at least one confirmed death so why save someone?

Especially someone who, at the outset, was so contrary? I mean he self voted, his claim was incomplete and sucked, he couldn't answer a damn question...and then somehow he's town and Tommy needs to save him? Like what? Where the hell did that come from?

 

I get that Darthe's RECENT performance may have improved and left a good impression but prior to Tommy wanting to save him he was dead to rights and for good reason. I don't understand why you're letting his recent actions outweigh his past transgressions.

[Tommyrod]

 

 

 

 

Nolder is #LOCKCLEAR F#@$ING TOWN. The fact that Tommy can't see how LockClear Nolder is for being the only person to actually speak up about the circle jerk going on and remind the fearsome foursome that they aren't conf!town bothers me. Tommy, play better.

Why do you consider Nolder to be Locktown for that. And why do you consider Tommy and Tsuki to be in a jerk circle for trying to stop a lynch that was building up very fast. If Darthe was scum, his teammates would have definitely tried to stop it much quicker and actually would have got it delayed contrary to how fast it was building. It's seems like a town mislynch if it got upto L-3 before anyone trying to stop it.

A power that is kept entirely off thread and can only be taken at the word of a player? Nolder was the only person talking sense while the rest of them got carried away. If their powers are true, awesome, we can use them to win the game with a little coordination. But being skeptical is a townie reaction.

You will clearly see that the governor portion worked, and if it's someone else I can immediately post their full role PM if I wanted to. We already saw Darthe's so that's not.

[Tyler Glembo]

We lynch the partner TG if it comes down to that, not Tommy since his role is valuable.

 

 

This I can get down with.

 

Uh, wow.

 

Okay, I don't see a reason Tommy would put that out there on D1 as scum OR third party. If either were the case, wouldn't it make more sense for him to keep that ability secret and hammer anyway?

 

Darthe, I don't get not wanting to lynch to test your claim/PM? Especially after you posted about how having any cleared townies is helpful.

 

I figured Arsis for Thor way back from his “when I drop the hammer, it stays dropped” comment a long time ago. Backed off him since bc I didn’t want to call attention to it.

 

I caught that too, left it alone.  There have been a few fun character hints people have dropped so far.

 

Why are you assuming scum won't just kill me you MORAN?

 

Why are you assuming scum would just kill you, you Chrissy MORAN?

[Tyler Glembo]

You will clearly see that the governor portion worked, and if it's someone else I can immediately post their full role PM if I wanted to. We already saw Darthe's so that's not.

 

 

And if you and Darthe are scum/scum and that is a fakeclaim given you by the mod?  Easy to coordinate.

[Tyler Glembo]

Meeting time.  Be back in a couple hours.

[Tommyrod]

 

 

You will clearly see that the governor portion worked, and if it's someone else I can immediately post their full role PM if I wanted to. We already saw Darthe's so that's not.

 

And if you and Darthe are scum/scum and that is a fakeclaim given you by the mod? Easy to coordinate.

We already talked about all this. IT MAKES NO SENSE. IF IM SCUM WITH DARTHE WE ARE TOO LINKED TO BACK OUT OF THIS CLAIM.

[Tommyrod]

 

We lynch the partner TG if it comes down to that, not Tommy since his role is valuable.

 

 

This I can get down with.

Uh, wow.

 

Okay, I don't see a reason Tommy would put that out there on D1 as scum OR third party. If either were the case, wouldn't it make more sense for him to keep that ability secret and hammer anyway?

 

Darthe, I don't get not wanting to lynch to test your claim/PM? Especially after you posted about how having any cleared townies is helpful.

 

I figured Arsis for Thor way back from his “when I drop the hammer, it stays dropped” comment a long time ago. Backed off him since bc I didn’t want to call attention to it.

I caught that too, left it alone. There have been a few fun character hints people have dropped so far.

Why are you assuming scum won't just kill me you MORAN?

Why are you assuming scum would just kill you, you Chrissy MORAN?

The ****? Because I'm AWESOME and now CONFIRMED AWESOME??

[Xthrax]

 

 

Nolder is #LOCKCLEAR F#@$ING TOWN.  The fact that Tommy can't see how LockClear Nolder is for being the only person to actually  speak up about the circle jerk going on and remind the fearsome foursome that they aren't conf!town bothers me.  Tommy, play better.

Why do you consider Nolder to be Locktown for that. And why do you consider Tommy and Tsuki to be in a jerk circle for trying to stop a lynch that was building up very fast. If Darthe was scum, his teammates would have definitely tried to stop it much quicker and actually would have got it delayed contrary to how fast it was building. It's seems like a town mislynch if it got upto L-3 before anyone trying to stop it. 

 

 

A power that is kept entirely off thread and can only be taken at the word of a player?  Nolder was the only person talking sense while the rest of them got carried away.  If their powers are true, awesome, we can use them to win the game with a little coordination.  But being skeptical is a townie reaction.

 

That is their actions and confirming the veracity of their statements. But what did their actions achieve? Trying to stop a extremely fast building lynch that IMO looked quite like a townie mislynch.  

[Tyler Glembo]

We already talked about all this. IT MAKES NO SENSE. IF IM SCUM WITH DARTHE WE ARE TOO LINKED TO BACK OUT OF THIS CLAIM.

 

 

You sure are.  Wouldn't that be a fun gambit to pull as scum. 

[keyholder21]

 

You will clearly see that the governor portion worked, and if it's someone else I can immediately post their full role PM if I wanted to. We already saw Darthe's so that's not.

 

And if you and Darthe are scum/scum and that is a fakeclaim given you by the mod?  Easy to coordinate.

 

...For one time only. Why use it now? If they are scum/scum, why not wait until later in the game when they could possibly swing it in their favor?

[Tommyrod]

 

 

We already talked about all this. IT MAKES NO SENSE. IF IM SCUM WITH DARTHE WE ARE TOO LINKED TO BACK OUT OF THIS CLAIM.

 

You sure are. Wouldn't that be a fun gambit to pull as scum.

You are either scum or being intentionally obtuse. Whichever it is -- I hardly care. Get out of this thread. You're awful.

[Nolder]

 

 

 

Nolder is #LOCKCLEAR F#@$ING TOWN. The fact that Tommy can't see how LockClear Nolder is for being the only person to actually speak up about the circle jerk going on and remind the fearsome foursome that they aren't conf!town bothers me. Tommy, play better.

Why do you consider Nolder to be Locktown for that. And why do you consider Tommy and Tsuki to be in a jerk circle for trying to stop a lynch that was building up very fast. If Darthe was scum, his teammates would have definitely tried to stop it much quicker and actually would have got it delayed contrary to how fast it was building. It's seems like a town mislynch if it got upto L-3 before anyone trying to stop it.

 

A power that is kept entirely off thread and can only be taken at the word of a player? Nolder was the only person talking sense while the rest of them got carried away. If their powers are true, awesome, we can use them to win the game with a little coordination. But being skeptical is a townie reaction.

 

You will clearly see that the governor portion worked, and if it's someone else I can immediately post their full role PM if I wanted to. We already saw Darthe's so that's not.

.....................I never even thought about this.

 

Ok I feel pretty dumb now.

But I don't know why you're letting Darthe walk away from being tested.

After posting his role PM you'd think you'd jump at the chance to confirm him.

It's basically a free lie detection.

[Tyler Glembo]

The ****? Because I'm AWESOME and now CONFIRMED AWESOME??

 

 

You're confirmed nothing until you're actually CONFIRMED. 

 

That is their actions and confirming the veracity of their statements. But what did their actions achieve? Trying to stop a extremely fast building lynch that IMO looked quite like a townie mislynch.  

 

 

Why are you white-knighting this X?  Seems a strange place for you to jump in.

 

...For one time only. Why use it now? If they are scum/scum, why not wait until later in the game when they could possibly swing it in their favor?

 

 

24 players.  6 scum (likely).  Tommy "clears" his scummates one by one with fake claims.  It takes 5 days.  That is 5 lynches, 5 NK's (if not more with powers).  Doing it now they could swing a perfect game.

[Tommyrod]

 

 

 

 

Nolder is #LOCKCLEAR F#@$ING TOWN. The fact that Tommy can't see how LockClear Nolder is for being the only person to actually speak up about the circle jerk going on and remind the fearsome foursome that they aren't conf!town bothers me. Tommy, play better.

Why do you consider Nolder to be Locktown for that. And why do you consider Tommy and Tsuki to be in a jerk circle for trying to stop a lynch that was building up very fast. If Darthe was scum, his teammates would have definitely tried to stop it much quicker and actually would have got it delayed contrary to how fast it was building. It's seems like a town mislynch if it got upto L-3 before anyone trying to stop it.

A power that is kept entirely off thread and can only be taken at the word of a player? Nolder was the only person talking sense while the rest of them got carried away. If their powers are true, awesome, we can use them to win the game with a little coordination. But being skeptical is a townie reaction.

You will clearly see that the governor portion worked, and if it's someone else I can immediately post their full role PM if I wanted to. We already saw Darthe's so that's not.

.....................I never even thought about this.

 

Ok I feel pretty dumb now.

But I don't know why you're letting Darthe walk away from being tested.

After posting his role PM you'd think you'd jump at the chance to confirm him.

It's basically a free lie detection.

Once Darthe posted his full PM my ability became just a fact check on him. If he doesn't die within a few nights we can re-assess, but as far as I'm concerned based on his PM, his soft claims, and his newfound WIM, he's lock town.

[Tyler Glembo]

^^^ NM, there wouldn't be the lynches if the governer worked.

[keyholder21]

But I don't know why you're letting Darthe walk away from being tested.

After posting his role PM you'd think you'd jump at the chance to confirm him.

It's basically a free lie detection.

I totally agree with this. I don't get darthe not wanting to be tested, either.