[Advanced] Avengers - Age of Ultron (GAME OVER!)

Yates · August 13, 2014

give to should read give "two" obviously. Typing fail.

Irony, you heartless bee-atch.

Hu-wut?

Krakalakachkn · August 13, 2014

So AJ is pretty much confirmed anti-town?

Yates · August 13, 2014

So AJ is pretty much confirmed anti-town?

Yes. Self admitted after being called out for not giving up the lead vote on Dawn.

Tommyrod · August 13, 2014

So AJ is pretty much confirmed anti-town?

Dawn is the venom symbiote (third party) and recruited AJ at some point.

Krakalakachkn · August 13, 2014

Rad

We lynching Dawn first?

Tyler Glembo · August 13, 2014

give to should read give "two" obviously. Typing fail.

Irony, you heartless bee-atch.

Hu-wut?

Let's pretend I never said this. I was reading quickly and thought you made a typo while correcting your typo.

keyholder21 · August 13, 2014

Yates, my vote on dice at EOD1 is a mistake, FYI. I was on the darthe train.

After all the discussion, I feel better about putting my vote on AJ today than on Dawn. [v]AJ[/v]

Yates · August 13, 2014

Rad

We lynching Dawn first?

Nope. AJ is holding tight to the #1 spot leading me to believe he can likely block the lynch or activate some unknown power that will harm the Town.

Current belief is that killing AJ will kill Dawn since the inverse is purportedly true.

Tommyrod · August 13, 2014

Rad

We lynching Dawn first?

No, because AJ took the first place on her lynch and refused to move, indicating he's got some kind of lead-the-lynch activated ability that we are wary of, so we moved to lynching him instead and he's been threatening us since then.

Songstress · August 13, 2014

Dang didn't get to finish my post. Resuming from the last part.

The two options:

1. Darthe gets to use his power by leading the lynch, Tommy can hammer the lynch and use his power, we can lynch Blackhoof (someone who I don't think anyone has townread yet) (and who didn't respond at all to the start of his own train), and if he turns out to not be scum, the unblockable/undirectable insta kill will be used to kill Dawn, which will kill AJ at the same time. If Blackhoof turns out to be scum, we've lowered the amount of scum, made it harder for them to get a majority, probably get a gigantic power role if the mafteam is supposed to counter all the strong roles of the town, and we've found one of the scum on the train list. Both of these options are good.

2. Darthe doesn't get to use his power, Tommy'll use his, we'll lynch Dawn and AJ at the same time, but the only kill at night will be directed by scum unless we have another vig-type role which I highly doubt. So we lose the BG ability from Darthe, we lose the possibility of another town-directed kill, and for those of you who keep saying that we have to get at least 1 scum with 100%.

THE FIRST OPTION DOES GIVE A 100% CHANCE OF GETTING SCUM!!!!

Tommy has already reminded you that he can't move his vote off Darthe, but even if he could, we don't want Tommy to hammer the lynch. Tommy hammers the lynch, he gets the character/alignment, but the player DOES NOT DIE, and any other powers that are activated from a successful lynch (i.e. Darthe's, and Hallia's) will not be activated. Mynd told us after D1 that he was only going to make the one time exception.

Also, didn't think about the interrogator portion. Here is a link to the interrogator role, mafiawiki is giving me a page filled with random code and nonformatted text that is unreadable otherwise I would have included it as well.

http://wiki.epicmafia.com/index.php?title=Interrogator

This role is specifically stated as a mafia role. Start rethinking Nolder guys. There's a chance that Mynd switched the alignment of the role, or that Nolder's trying to get everyone to think he's cleared and then will run to the end game as clear. The latter might be more probable now. Might even consider voting him instead of Hoof.

For what it's worth, I've been that role before. As town. In a game on Myndjack, for that matter. Nolder isn't 100% confirmed, true, but I have every confidence we will figure it out if he is mafia.

Tommyrod · August 13, 2014

I think AJ is more bluster than not.

Yates · August 13, 2014

My bad. I also left Red on here so... LOL? I'm like 90% sure you are Town anyway so it doesn't matter all that much.

Updated:

Off the Darthe Wagon

Vos (2) - Rand, Krak

Red (1) - Despothera

Arsis (1) - Tsukibana

Rand (1) - WWWwombat

No Vote: Arsis, Dicetosser, Drunk Tank, Vos

Who are the three or so scum in this group? Vos claims to have vetted Rand and vice versa or some such nonsense? Any actual[/i] clears in this group I can remove?

Tommyrod · August 13, 2014

Arsis is probably town, Tsuki might be town, Despot claimed Hank Pym as a town counterpoint to Ultron.

None of the rest have anything clearing that I can recall. That leaves:

Krak

Wombat

Dice

Drunk

RandA lThor · August 13, 2014

Yeah well AJ also outright admitted he was recruited by Dawn so yeah. He should probably get got.

I don't hate Darthe's plan to lynch Hoof because Hoof is almost certainly scum to my eyes. But if he's town we lose so much.

We don't though, that's the point. If he's town, the people you want dead right now will die anyways.

Rand: ?

I can't use my hammer ability so what's the question?

I wanted you to respond to the below, at the very least, and explain why the second is better than the first.

Dang didn't get to finish my post. Resuming from the last part.

The two options:

1. Darthe gets to use his power by leading the lynch, Tommy can hammer the lynch and use his power, we can lynch Blackhoof (someone who I don't think anyone has townread yet) (and who didn't respond at all to the start of his own train), and if he turns out to not be scum, the unblockable/undirectable insta kill will be used to kill Dawn, which will kill AJ at the same time. If Blackhoof turns out to be scum, we've lowered the amount of scum, made it harder for them to get a majority, probably get a gigantic power role if the mafteam is supposed to counter all the strong roles of the town, and we've found one of the scum on the train list. Both of these options are good.

2. Darthe doesn't get to use his power, Tommy'll use his, we'll lynch Dawn and AJ at the same time, but the only kill at night will be directed by scum unless we have another vig-type role which I highly doubt. So we lose the BG ability from Darthe, we lose the possibility of another town-directed kill, and for those of you who keep saying that we have to get at least 1 scum with 100%.

THE FIRST OPTION DOES GIVE A 100% CHANCE OF GETTING SCUM!!!!

ALSO, I HAVE BEEN CLEARED AS TOWN FROM VOS.

Please read these options and at least say why the second one is better if you're going to do it.

Also @ Yates' post:

Yeah I have been inciting some arguments with my insults and name-calling, I'll stop doing that now.

Also, didn't think about the interrogator portion. Here is a link to the interrogator role, mafiawiki is giving me a page filled with random code and nonformatted text that is unreadable otherwise I would have included it as well.

http://wiki.epicmafia.com/index.php?title=Interrogator

This role is specifically stated as a mafia role. Start rethinking Nolder guys. There's a chance that Mynd switched the alignment of the role, or that Nolder's trying to get everyone to think he's cleared and then will run to the end game as clear. The latter might be more probable now. Might even consider voting him instead of Hoof.

Also Tommy, someone said you were trolling me basically to show me how it feeled for people to not believe you.

A. I believe you right now completely.

B. Your trolling is getting people to actually think I'm scum, so basically since your trolling is convincing a cleared townie in your eyes to be scum in the other towns, that's pretty close to gamethrowing and playing against your win con. If you can't play mafia without somewhat of a level head and keep revenge out of it, then take a break or a nap, and come back and play like I did.

So these are the people that were OFF the Darthe wagon:

Vos (2) - Rand, Krak

Red (1) - Despothera

Dicetosser (1) - Keyholder

Arsis (1) - Tsukibana

Rand (1) - WWWwombat

Dawn (1) - Red

No Vote: Arsis, Dicetosser, Drunk Tank, Vos

Who are the three or so scum in this group?

Only clears are Vos and I, Arsis is a strong townread all around, Despo's a strong townread for myself imo. Other than that, we have Key, Krak, Tsuki, Wombat, ~~Red?~~, Dice, and DT. 3ish out of 7 are pretty good odds, I wouldn't mind looking in this group. Keep in mind though, that if we include townreads that is 3ish out of 9 which isn't much better.

I'm guessing you are Spiderman? That makes me sad.

Maybe he is Spiderman 3 spiderman. That'd make us all sad.

Lol, yes it would.

Rad

We lynching Dawn first?

No, please read my post from above on why I disagree with Dawn or AJ in that matter.

Dang didn't get to finish my post. Resuming from the last part.

The two options:

1. Darthe gets to use his power by leading the lynch, Tommy can hammer the lynch and use his power, we can lynch Blackhoof (someone who I don't think anyone has townread yet) (and who didn't respond at all to the start of his own train), and if he turns out to not be scum, the unblockable/undirectable insta kill will be used to kill Dawn, which will kill AJ at the same time. If Blackhoof turns out to be scum, we've lowered the amount of scum, made it harder for them to get a majority, probably get a gigantic power role if the mafteam is supposed to counter all the strong roles of the town, and we've found one of the scum on the train list. Both of these options are good.

2. Darthe doesn't get to use his power, Tommy'll use his, we'll lynch Dawn and AJ at the same time, but the only kill at night will be directed by scum unless we have another vig-type role which I highly doubt. So we lose the BG ability from Darthe, we lose the possibility of another town-directed kill, and for those of you who keep saying that we have to get at least 1 scum with 100%.

THE FIRST OPTION DOES GIVE A 100% CHANCE OF GETTING SCUM!!!!

Tommy has already reminded you that he can't move his vote off Darthe, but even if he could, we don't want Tommy to hammer the lynch. Tommy hammers the lynch, he gets the character/alignment, but the player DOES NOT DIE, and any other powers that are activated from a successful lynch (i.e. Darthe's, and Hallia's) will not be activated. Mynd told us after D1 that he was only going to make the one time exception.

Also, didn't think about the interrogator portion. Here is a link to the interrogator role, mafiawiki is giving me a page filled with random code and nonformatted text that is unreadable otherwise I would have included it as well.

http://wiki.epicmafia.com/index.php?title=Interrogator

This role is specifically stated as a mafia role. Start rethinking Nolder guys. There's a chance that Mynd switched the alignment of the role, or that Nolder's trying to get everyone to think he's cleared and then will run to the end game as clear. The latter might be more probable now. Might even consider voting him instead of Hoof.

For what it's worth, I've been that role before. As town. In a game on Myndjack, for that matter. Nolder isn't 100% confirmed, true, but I have every confidence we will figure it out if he is mafia.

First of all, thank you again Tress for responding.

Also, forgot about what Tommy's role did for that bit, so sorry about that again, but since that's in both options, you can take it out and read the rest of it.

Also thanks for the role info. Lets leave Nolder as prob town for now.

RandA lThor · August 13, 2014

Arsis is probably town, Tsuki might be town, Despot claimed Hank Pym as a town counterpoint to Ultron.

None of the rest have anything clearing that I can recall. That leaves:

Krak

Wombat

Dice

Drunk

Has Tsuki claimed anything yet? If not, (and not encouraging Tsuki to claim, actually discourage unless he absolutely has to) then I wouldn't keep him off the list.

Tommyrod · August 13, 2014

Rand: "I wanted you to respond to the below, at the very least, and explain why the second is better than the first."

I still have NO IDEA what you want me to talk about when neither option is mechanically possible.

RandA lThor · August 13, 2014

The two options:

1. Darthe gets to use his power by leading the lynch, someone with a hammer power will use theirs, we can lynch Blackhoof (someone who I don't think anyone has townread yet) (and who didn't respond at all to the start of his own train), and if he turns out to not be scum, the unblockable/undirectable insta kill will be used to kill Dawn, which will kill AJ at the same time. If Blackhoof turns out to be scum, we've lowered the amount of scum, made it harder for them to get a majority, probably get a gigantic power role if the mafteam is supposed to counter all the strong roles of the town, and we've found one of the scum on the train list. Both of these options are good.

2. Darthe doesn't get to use his power, someone with a hammer power will use theirs, we'll lynch Dawn and AJ at the same time, but the only kill at night will be directed by scum unless we have another vig-type role which I highly doubt. So we lose the BG ability from Darthe, we lose the possibility of another town-directed kill, and for those of you who keep saying that we have to get at least 1 scum with 100%.

THE FIRST OPTION DOES GIVE A 100% CHANCE OF GETTING SCUM!!!!

ALSO, I HAVE BEEN CLEARED AS TOWN FROM VOS.

Please read these options and at least say why the second one is better if you're going to do it.

These are the fixed options without Tommy being mentioned.

RandA lThor · August 13, 2014

Rand: "I wanted you to respond to the below, at the very least, and explain why the second is better than the first."

I still have NO IDEA what you want me to talk about when neither option is mechanically possible.

I fixed it beneath this one, you can respond to that one if you want to.

Tommyrod · August 13, 2014

Arsis is probably town, Tsuki might be town, Despot claimed Hank Pym as a town counterpoint to Ultron.

None of the rest have anything clearing that I can recall. That leaves:

Krak

Wombat

Dice

Drunk

Has Tsuki claimed anything yet? If not, (and not encouraging Tsuki to claim, actually discourage unless he absolutely has to) then I wouldn't keep him off the list.

Yeah he claimed he had a pretty lulzy "OMGUS cop" power where if someone OMGUS votes him he could get a cop view on them. I think I'm remembering that right, anyway. It's pretty random and I'm not sure if it's clearing or even makes sense but he seemed pretty proud of it at the time so I gave him a town lean for instantly joining in on the claim fest between me, Darthe and Arsis at EOD1.

Tommyrod · August 13, 2014

The two options:

1. Darthe gets to use his power by leading the lynch, someone with a hammer power will use theirs, we can lynch Blackhoof (someone who I don't think anyone has townread yet) (and who didn't respond at all to the start of his own train), and if he turns out to not be scum, the unblockable/undirectable insta kill will be used to kill Dawn, which will kill AJ at the same time. If Blackhoof turns out to be scum, we've lowered the amount of scum, made it harder for them to get a majority, probably get a gigantic power role if the mafteam is supposed to counter all the strong roles of the town, and we've found one of the scum on the train list. Both of these options are good.

2. Darthe doesn't get to use his power, someone with a hammer power will use theirs, we'll lynch Dawn and AJ at the same time, but the only kill at night will be directed by scum unless we have another vig-type role which I highly doubt. So we lose the BG ability from Darthe, we lose the possibility of another town-directed kill, and for those of you who keep saying that we have to get at least 1 scum with 100%.

THE FIRST OPTION DOES GIVE A 100% CHANCE OF GETTING SCUM!!!!

ALSO, I HAVE BEEN CLEARED AS TOWN FROM VOS.

Please read these options and at least say why the second one is better if you're going to do it.

These are the fixed options without Tommy being mentioned.

If you can 100% absolutely guarantee that the kill on Dawn will go through, I'm on board for #1. The downside is if the kill fails or if Dawn gets another recruit off tonight, so Arsis should probably block her if we do that.

Yates · August 13, 2014

Yeah he claimed he had a pretty lulzy "OMGUS cop" power where if someone OMGUS votes him he could get a cop view on them. I think I'm remembering that right, anyway.

Has this been tested?

Tommyrod · August 13, 2014

Yeah he claimed he had a pretty lulzy "OMGUS cop" power where if someone OMGUS votes him he could get a cop view on them. I think I'm remembering that right, anyway.
Has this been tested?

He tried at the time but then some gibberish happened and nothing ever came of it. My memory of the event is hazy.

Yates · August 13, 2014

To that effect, Rand - would you be willing to OMGUS vote Tsuki if he voted for you?

Tommyrod · August 13, 2014

To that effect, Rand - would you be willing to OMGUS vote Tsuki if he voted for you?

Lenlo immediately volunteered to be the guinea pig for the OMGUS cop, FWIW.

Yates · August 13, 2014

I'd love to see these 5 all on the AJ wagon:

Nolder

Krak

Wombat

Dice

Drunk Tank

Nothing to worry about - if you are Town.

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