[Advanced] Avengers - Age of Ultron (GAME OVER!)

[Arsis]

I like Songstress. I don't like Darthe or Tommy.

 

Is that too cryptic for you special ed kids??

Try a bit harder. It isn't quite apparent to everyone else how hard you're trying. I can just see all the effort that went into this post.

[Krakalakachkn]

 

I like Songstress. I don't like Darthe or Tommy.

Is that too cryptic for you special ed kids??

Try a bit harder. It isn't quite apparent to everyone else how hard you're trying. I can just see all the effort that went into this post.

 

Right?

[Blackhoof]

 

 

Hey this is Tom. I have been silenced until EOD2 due to the vile efforts of fruit loop dinguses and am talking through Nolder via shenanigans. I have info from the lynch: Darthe is who he said he was, is Hero aligned, and Songstress is Hero aligned (the result of another of my abilities I won't reveal right now). NotBob used a friendly neighbor type role to contact me. I'm assuming he's town for now given that and his thread play which seems like his typical self. 

 

So that's a lot of reasonably clear players. We now have 7 players on the Darthe wagon who aren't clear and we know 4 of them are scum if the Hallia / Tina power is true. 

 

Dawn

Hoof

Lenlo

Key 

Xthrax

TG

AJ

 

Converge your night actions on these players. 57% chance to target scum. That's huge info for N1. 

 

And I see a lot of recruitment talk ITT. I know that my character personally cannot be recruited but that means there might be traitor/symp characters that the scum team has to search for to add them to the chat. I think with a large scum team there would be something to prevent linking between all of them. It's also possible we have 2 separate scum factions. There's gotta be something going for scum to prevent them all being discovered since town is really strong.

 

 

coolness.

 

hmmm in order of scumminess, I have the following.

TG

Dawn

Xthrax

Lenlo

AJ

Key

and most town (duh) is Hoof

[Arsis]

 

 

 

Hey this is Tom. I have been silenced until EOD2 due to the vile efforts of fruit loop dinguses and am talking through Nolder via shenanigans. I have info from the lynch: Darthe is who he said he was, is Hero aligned, and Songstress is Hero aligned (the result of another of my abilities I won't reveal right now). NotBob used a friendly neighbor type role to contact me. I'm assuming he's town for now given that and his thread play which seems like his typical self.

 

So that's a lot of reasonably clear players. We now have 7 players on the Darthe wagon who aren't clear and we know 4 of them are scum if the Hallia / Tina power is true.

 

Dawn

Hoof

Lenlo

Key

Xthrax

TG

AJ

 

Converge your night actions on these players. 57% chance to target scum. That's huge info for N1.

 

And I see a lot of recruitment talk ITT. I know that my character personally cannot be recruited but that means there might be traitor/symp characters that the scum team has to search for to add them to the chat. I think with a large scum team there would be something to prevent linking between all of them. It's also possible we have 2 separate scum factions. There's gotta be something going for scum to prevent them all being discovered since town is really strong.

 

coolness.

 

hmmm in order of scumminess, I have the following.

TG

Dawn

Xthrax

Lenlo

AJ

Key

and most town (duh) is Hoof

You better hope your reads aren't that good. Seeing as how's it's night. Don't want to make yourself a target. You're worried about that, right?

[Darthe]

^scummy post

[Krakalakachkn]

^scummy post

[Arsis]

Why can't I quote on Chrome. Stupid browser. I'm going back to firefox. Darthe, I'm glad you agree with me about Hoof.

[Blackhoof]

You better hope your reads aren't that good. Seeing as how's it's night. Don't want to make yourself a target. You're worried about that, right?

meh, they can try if they like.

[Xthrax]

For me, in order of town to scum.

 

Key

AJ

Dawn

TG

Lenlo

Hoof

 

I haven't really gotten a read on most of these except the first 3.

 

Going to the bottom would actually be in my mixed reads pile.

 

On the other hand, after going to stuff that made me suspicious

 

I have;

 

Key and AJ among my townie reads

Des in the mixed

Wombat in the leaning scum to mixed

Dice as scummy.

[Xthrax]

In mostly confirmed townies are Tommy, Darthe, Tsuki. Tress and Arsis a little lower along with Key and AJ. Dawn in the null to town pile. And mainly everyone who I haven't mentioned in null pile.

 

And Red below Dice in the scummy group

[Blackhoof]

I'm still iffy on red, and dice is still very scummy in my eyes. Worry about that later though.

[hazelkrs1]

Hell yeah the thread didn't explode!

 

 

Should be able to get fully caught up then tonight, will do so after audit

[WWWwombat]

I'm not sure this lynch/no lynch settled my stomach as much as it should have.

 

Try bread and water.  Maybe some coffee if things get dire.

 

 

 

Nolder - what excatly has hinted you to this being a recruitment game?

The mechanics of the previous game.

Avengers 1 was basically a Cultafia.

There was one main scum (Loki, played by yours truly and followed up by Verbal) and at the start I got to recruit two people who were initially heroes and retained their previous powers. If any of the scum were to die new scum could be recruited. The scum cap was 3 players.

 

I'm not saying it's going to work exactly the same way but I'm expecting some kind of recruit ability for scum in this game.

 

 

Yeah, the cultafia in the last game was based on tesseract/staff flavor, but I wouldn't be at all surprised to see a recruit in this game.  Maybe not full blown cult, but somethign to mess with things a little.  Mynd is a jerk.

[WWWwombat]

Wombat out of that crew stands out however- I already had suspicions of him but they def grew while reading his posts. Overall I liked that he was posting, and he did post one thing that was absurdly protown, some kind of plan to use abilities or something (Wombat if you are town, please repeat it for me plz). HOWEVER. He also said he was tired so couldn't think straight, and while that could have been the truth, I also think it was scummy of him to try and use that to cover his ass, to explain why he wasn't reacting correctly or something. Then he dropped off the thread while everything kept going on then came back to tunnel on Rand. Looked random and forced, and scummy considering that Rand actually looked good from the exchange tbh. So Wombat is def high on my scumlist now

 

I was sleeping.  Some people don't do night audits.  Why I'm still up right now, I have no idea.

[WWWwombat]

Don't like how Tommy is implying that anyone who distrusts his claim is scum.  I say have his partner claim and then have Tsuki confirm that person.  Then if all that works, we can have Tommy use his ability on whoever we lynch, assuming we decide to go that way.

 

Is this what you were referrign to btw Des?  Cuz I thought it was pretty pro-town at the time but I got tons of heat for it.

[WWWwombat]

 

 

Nolder's arguments were stupid but he can be quite obtuse as a townie but the point is he was posting and wasn't slanking and plotting on a QT like many scum would when that many claims are going down. So Nolderp is LOCK CLEAR imo 

That's kind of dumb.

Do you think I'm so bad I can't post on a QT and game thread at the same time?

In the clash of the ancients game I had to manage communicating in a scum QT, mason QT, and the game thread.

Granted me and krak weren't that active in our mason QT but my point is I can multi task so this isn't a reason to consider me clear.

 

 

HOWEVER. He also said he was tired so couldn't think straight, and while that could have been the truth, I also think it was scummy of him to try and use that to cover his ass, to explain why he wasn't reacting correctly or something. Then he dropped off the thread while everything kept going on then came back to tunnel on Rand.

Wombat is 3 hours ahead of me and I know lately I've been posting in the early AMs.

The reason he "dropped off the thread" was probably to sleep.

I mean you might as well target Tina if you're going to judge people on when they're online and offline.

 

Note I'm not suggesting you actually target Tina, just using her as an example to drive my point home.

Hell you yourself get on at very odd hours. Are you avoiding all the action scumbo? Ok then.

 

 

Lol.  I love how you're explaining all your sarcastic jokes to preempt derps btw.  Makes me chuckle.

[WWWwombat]

If scum can recruit, then Tommy can have a perfect win.

 

Troll the thread, ask to be recruited

Hard claim and confirm his role day 1

Throw dirt at everyone questioning him

Get recruited to scum while retaining his role.

Recruiting the people he clears

 

Scum win. Easy peasy because people dont have the stamina required to go against the Tommy/Darthe freightrain.

 

Don't see how this post is pro-town.  If you're town, stop tinfoiling.

[WWWwombat]

I repeated my reasoning for considering it a mislynch quite a few times. How is it redundant?

 

 

Yeah but you seemed absolutely sure of it.  Doesn't look town imo.

 

The term "mislynch" implies that you are lynching town, or at the very least, not lynching scum.  If you were lynching scum, that wouldn't be a "mislynch."

[WWWwombat]

 

 

 

Lol Arsis/Nol showdown would be great

Nolderp has literally done nothing but advocate anti-town moves from his first post but he has 0 votes. I wouldn't want to mess with a scum jedi like that.

 

 

Disagree with the assessment but lol'd at the "scum jedi" thing.

 

 

[unvote]

 

[v]Nolder[/v]

 

I'm glad I made this offer tonight. I'm having fun rustling the hell out of people. Wombat and Nolder's reactions are just out of this world.

 

Hey, Tommy, when you've got two people who played in Mynd's first Avengers game telling you to slow your roll, maybe you should consider that you need to slow your roll.

 

It is true that you guys have experience from the previous game but don't you think Mynd would change his method? Otherwise, it would be predictable and easy for people.

 

 

I agree that he would change his method to some degree, but he's still the same mod.  Also, I've already seen a couple of things this game that reminded me of the first game, so there are clearly similarities.  I don't trust much to gaming mods in general as I know how hard I try to avoid being gamed when I mod, but as long as we're using it to promote caution instead of trying to avoid actual scumhunting, I don't see how that's a bad thing.

[WWWwombat]

I swear it's like no one ever read this post.

 

I read it a long time ago.  Didn't stop me from breadcrumbing.  I know how to do it right.  Took a while to learn.  Doesn't mean just anyone should be trying it, but taking a hard line on breadcrumbing is silly.

[WWWwombat]

I don't think he's fearmongering. I think he's airing a legitimate concern, one which I filled him with.

That's my fault and I'm now thinking I'm wrong about the recruiting aspect due to Tina/Hallia.

 

I don't see how their claims would make you think that.  It probably rules out cult or cultafia, but limited shots could be in play.  Either way it doesn't matter much.  I'm just going to play this like I play every game.  There are a lot of things in the back of my mind, but until they are confirmed by flip, that's where they stay for the most part.

[WWWwombat]

Lol. For real?

 

Why are you so averse to attention?

 

If you feel like you and Tommy and whoever is totally clear and want to solve this game you would feel comfortable with everyone having a broad view of the game.

 

But instead of spending D1 looking for scum, D1 had instead been used to apparently steer attention away from you and Tommy for the rest of the game.

 

And we are not supposed to mind at all?

 

Move along, there's nothing to see here?

 

And when someone comes and say "guys, this is a complex game, we should look at all possibilities"

 

...it's fear mongering?

 

Something here doesn't add up.

 

 

 

 

If scum can recruit, then Tommy can have a perfect win.

 

Troll the thread, ask to be recruited

Hard claim and confirm his role day 1

Throw dirt at everyone questioning him

Get recruited to scum while retaining his role.

Recruiting the people he clears

 

Scum win. Easy peasy because people dont have the stamina required to go against the Tommy/Darthe freightrain.

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legit? 

 

so anyone who dares speculate or question that you and Tommy might not be insta-cleared is fearmongering?

 

riiiight

 

 

 

 

Vos was doing more than just questioning there imo.  Darthe jumping to fearmongering is meh but at the very least it's overly paranoid for this point in the game imo.

[WWWwombat]

Mountains of tinfoil, folks...

 

SRSLY

 

 

 

 

Darthe is pretty much clear, Marvel has been in a bunch of scenes by now.  I was wrong about his character claim though, I thought he was Rhodes (since he's a BG for Iron Man).

 

Disgusting.  Nolder has already explained why scenes mean almost nothing as far as clearing players goes.  And if you had any doubt about that, Mynd's shenanigans with Galactus and Silver Surfer should have pounded it home.  You are scum.  Thanks for spewing Darthe town though.

 

Nolder explained how Mynd incorporated claims (true and false) into his scene.  He didn't say anything about Mynd writing in random characters beforehand in the hope that someone would later claim it.  And judging from the lynch scene, or no lynch scene I guess, it looks like my logic worked out there better... Keep trying

 

Do you know how many characters Mynd has put in his scenes?  This "logic" makes no sense from a town PoV.  And as for it working out, it probably would work out if you were scum and knew Darthe wasn't on your team, wouldn't it?

[WWWwombat]

 

 

Don't like all the people going "Darthe you're horrible, he was just pointing out you might be mafia, now you call it fearmongering". Its possible that that is a reason, but there are better reasons and that line of thought is one that scum would jump on once again to provide misdirection if they didn't havea recruitment.

Darthe needs to get his act together and stop acting like a dick.

Anyone can see (I'm a perfect example) that people react negatively to negativity.

If he'd said "This looks like fear mongering to me" I don't know that I would have even bothered commenting but since he decided to make a damn page banner out of it it provoked a negative comment out of me in return.

> calls spade spade

> is dick

 

 

It's called tact.  You know this.

[WWWwombat]

 

Darthe (13) - NotBob, Nolder, Dawn, Songstress, Hallia, Blackhoof, Lenlo, Keyholder, Xthrax, TGlems, Andrej, Darthe, Tommy

 

One Four of these things is not like the other, one four of these things is totally scum!

 

Your eye in the sky says!

 

This information gives us a good look at the scum team's numbers actually. If scum knew there was a role that could see how many people were in their lynch, which most people figured out, they wouldn't put all of their players on one train, they'd try to get a middle number. Because of this I actually believe there's 6 or 7 scum, most likely 6 due to number of people in the game, and I'm doubting the recruitment angle more now.

This is concise and accurate and looks like it was very carefully crafted on a QT somewhere. Blegh, I dont know what to think when so many people have read rand as scum here and Ive had him as town most of the game.

 

 

That you're wrong?  That being said, the "this looks like QT" thing is always a terrible argument.