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At what point does it become counterproductive to continue discussion?

 

The answer is: When scum is fully aware that it is going down.

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^That's a pretty townie post by Darthe, and wipes away almost all of the hesitation I have, which was small anyways

 

 

 

I never know why Darthe does what he does and I totally don't get his general play in games. He never makes sense to me. I have no idea why he would out himself to lynch me specifically. Maybe he thought I was a PR, in which case it was a hit and miss on his part and all he's taking down with him is a vanilla. His dumbwitted move earns him that much.

 

Guess you could both be scum and he's bussing you to out the Cop...but who knows...it's Darthe.

 

Right now...he's uncountered and we need more intel...sorry but time to see you swing.

 

But I for one, am sad you must go.  :(

 

If they're bussing, I doubt that there's no cop, so he should be cced.  If Nyn flips guilty, and there is another cop, then cc.  If Nyn flips inno, then don't cc obviously.

 

Or don't CC and use your investigation on Darthe...

 

Waste of an investigation.  In what scenario could Darthe be town if you are another cop in a basic game?  If there is one, which I can't see, Darthe reveal your crazy play right after Nyn flips so this doesn't happen.  So I guess to prevent any weird stuff, cop cc after Darthe has made at least one post after Nyn's death.

 

 

You and I both know that this wouldn't be the first time town lied about having a result to help a lynch along.  Maybe he tracked Nyn, or watched somebody and Nyn targeted them, and he figured she was unlikely to be a townie from it.  I don't know.  Maybe he's a role cop and the other is the traditional cop.

 

It would, however, be the first time I've seen a member of the mafia fake an investigation on their own teammate early in a game to prevent themselves from being lynched.  Darthe was at 2 out of 6...maybe he gets those 4, maybe he doesn't.  What I do know is that Nyn was unlikely to be lynched today, so why would he give her up to save himself?  It makes more sense to let the scum member with the most pressure die IMO.

 

 

I think the most logical conclusion is that Darthe is town and telling the truth.  If he happens to be lying AND is scum, I would prefer the cop play it closer to the chest, rather than out themselves and risk a NK/roleblock/redirect.  If he comes up town, the real cop knows they have someone they can trust and remains hidden.

 

K I get what you're saying, makes sense.

 

 

Nyn, can you do the unvote thing like I asked you?  I want to see you hammer yourself, not do some fake L-2 hammer.

 

NotBob are you buying what Nyn's saying right now?

 

Don't I get a last request? I thought that's how it worked.

 

 

How about you man up and stand behind your decision? That makes more sense to me. And FYI, I knew I was at L-2. Just speeding up the distraction.

 

Looking forward to see Darthe get stumped, even if it has to be from the DT. =)

 

No, that's not how it works.  If you're town you will have absolutely no problem with unvoting, having me vote, and then hammering yourself.  So, like I said, unvote.  Will you feel better and unvote for me if I [v[Darthe[/v]?

 

I'ma need you all to give me the top two people you want viewed in order of most want viewed to least want viewed.  Quote this post when you do so plz.

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^That's a pretty townie post by Darthe, and wipes away almost all of the hesitation I have, which was small anyways

 

 

 

I never know why Darthe does what he does and I totally don't get his general play in games. He never makes sense to me. I have no idea why he would out himself to lynch me specifically. Maybe he thought I was a PR, in which case it was a hit and miss on his part and all he's taking down with him is a vanilla. His dumbwitted move earns him that much.

 

Guess you could both be scum and he's bussing you to out the Cop...but who knows...it's Darthe.

 

Right now...he's uncountered and we need more intel...sorry but time to see you swing.

 

But I for one, am sad you must go.  :(

 

If they're bussing, I doubt that there's no cop, so he should be cced.  If Nyn flips guilty, and there is another cop, then cc.  If Nyn flips inno, then don't cc obviously.

 

Or don't CC and use your investigation on Darthe...

 

 

 

Huh?

 

Don't see the logic here...

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^That's a pretty townie post by Darthe, and wipes away almost all of the hesitation I have, which was small anyways

 

 

 

I never know why Darthe does what he does and I totally don't get his general play in games. He never makes sense to me. I have no idea why he would out himself to lynch me specifically. Maybe he thought I was a PR, in which case it was a hit and miss on his part and all he's taking down with him is a vanilla. His dumbwitted move earns him that much.

 

Guess you could both be scum and he's bussing you to out the Cop...but who knows...it's Darthe.

 

Right now...he's uncountered and we need more intel...sorry but time to see you swing.

 

But I for one, am sad you must go.  :(

 

If they're bussing, I doubt that there's no cop, so he should be cced.  If Nyn flips guilty, and there is another cop, then cc.  If Nyn flips inno, then don't cc obviously.

 

Or don't CC and use your investigation on Darthe...

 

Waste of an investigation.  In what scenario could Darthe be town if you are another cop in a basic game?  If there is one, which I can't see, Darthe reveal your crazy play right after Nyn flips so this doesn't happen.  So I guess to prevent any weird stuff, cop cc after Darthe has made at least one post after Nyn's death.

 

 

yup

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That didn't work lets try that again, [v]Darthe[/v].  See, now you do the same thing, but you vote unvote instead of vote.

 

 

I'ma need you all to give me the top two people you want viewed in order of most want viewed to least want viewed.  Quote this post when you do so plz.

Clov, TG

 

Clov because he's the last on my list and TG because he's confusing the hell out of me.  But if you want to go with your method and go from the middle of the list then go with

 

DT, NotBob

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Lol Rand killing her is counterproductive to her goal.  She already said she isn't going to vote herself, an admission so contradictory to everything else she has said that is validates a lynch in and of itself.

Posted

That didn't work lets try that again, [v]Darthe[/v].  See, now you do the same thing, but you vote unvote instead of vote.

 

 

I'ma need you all to give me the top two people you want viewed in order of most want viewed to least want viewed.  Quote this post when you do so plz.

Clov, TG

 

Clov because he's the last on my list and TG because he's confusing the hell out of me.  But if you want to go with your method and go from the middle of the list then go with

 

DT, NotBob

I'll prob never view TG.  Him and you are almost sure town in my eyes but I accept your list and am keeping a record of it all.

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Lol Rand killing her is counterproductive to her goal.  She already said she isn't going to vote herself, an admission so contradictory to everything else she has said that is validates a lynch in and of itself.

 

Yeah I know I just want to see her vote herself. :P

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That didn't work lets try that again, [v]Darthe[/v].  See, now you do the same thing, but you vote unvote instead of vote.

 

 

I'ma need you all to give me the top two people you want viewed in order of most want viewed to least want viewed.  Quote this post when you do so plz.

Clov, TG

 

Clov because he's the last on my list and TG because he's confusing the hell out of me.  But if you want to go with your method and go from the middle of the list then go with

 

DT, NotBob

I'll prob never view TG.  Him and you are almost sure town in my eyes but I accept your list and am keeping a record of it all.

 

fair enough, his recent posts have led me to believe he's more town, especially the rebuttals.   I could go back and forth with him all game long, but they were what I expected from town.  That's why I'm so confused on him lol.

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I'ma need you all to give me the top two people you want viewed in order of most want viewed to least want viewed.  Quote this post when you do so plz.

 

Translation: I will fap as I waste your time.

 

 

Hawt!

 

You think Darthe fapping is hot?

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^That's a pretty townie post by Darthe, and wipes away almost all of the hesitation I have, which was small anyways

 

 

 

I never know why Darthe does what he does and I totally don't get his general play in games. He never makes sense to me. I have no idea why he would out himself to lynch me specifically. Maybe he thought I was a PR, in which case it was a hit and miss on his part and all he's taking down with him is a vanilla. His dumbwitted move earns him that much.

 

Guess you could both be scum and he's bussing you to out the Cop...but who knows...it's Darthe.

 

Right now...he's uncountered and we need more intel...sorry but time to see you swing.

 

But I for one, am sad you must go.  :(

 

If they're bussing, I doubt that there's no cop, so he should be cced.  If Nyn flips guilty, and there is another cop, then cc.  If Nyn flips inno, then don't cc obviously.

 

Or don't CC and use your investigation on Darthe...

 

Waste of an investigation.  In what scenario could Darthe be town if you are another cop in a basic game?  If there is one, which I can't see, Darthe reveal your crazy play right after Nyn flips so this doesn't happen.  So I guess to prevent any weird stuff, cop cc after Darthe has made at least one post after Nyn's death.

 

 

You and I both know that this wouldn't be the first time town lied about having a result to help a lynch along.  Maybe he tracked Nyn, or watched somebody and Nyn targeted them, and he figured she was unlikely to be a townie from it.  I don't know.  Maybe he's a role cop and the other is the traditional cop.

 

It would, however, be the first time I've seen a member of the mafia fake an investigation on their own teammate early in a game to prevent themselves from being lynched.  Darthe was at 2 out of 6...maybe he gets those 4, maybe he doesn't.  What I do know is that Nyn was unlikely to be lynched today, so why would he give her up to save himself?  It makes more sense to let the scum member with the most pressure die IMO.

 

 

I think the most logical conclusion is that Darthe is town and telling the truth.  If he happens to be lying AND is scum, I would prefer the cop play it closer to the chest, rather than out themselves and risk a NK/roleblock/redirect.  If he comes up town, the real cop knows they have someone they can trust and remains hidden.

 

 

Can I assume you've played many, many games with Darthe?

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My vote is already on me. The fact that you think me voting myself last has any relevance is a joke.

lol if it doesn't have any relevance then unvote. :P  You're on the losing side of this argument Nyn.

Posted

Lol Rand killing her is counterproductive to her goal.  She already said she isn't going to vote herself, an admission so contradictory to everything else she has said that is validates a lynch in and of itself.

 

 

 

Lol Rand killing her is counterproductive to her goal.  She already said she isn't going to vote herself, an admission so contradictory to everything else she has said that is validates a lynch in and of itself.

 

Yeah I know I just want to see her vote herself. :P

 

Nyn's already voting herself?

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My vote is already on me. The fact that you think me voting myself last has any relevance is a joke.

lol if it doesn't have any relevance then unvote. :P  You're on the losing side of this argument Nyn.

 

 

I'm not the kind of person that would do something when it makes zero sense. 

 

 

And for future reference, kid. When a girl says no, she means no  :wink:

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I'ma need you all to give me the top two people you want viewed in order of most want viewed to least want viewed.  Quote this post when you do so plz.

 

Translation: I will fap as I waste your time.

 

 

Hawt!

 

You think Darthe fapping is hot?

 

You don't?

 

Also I thought Nyn needed to unvote before her vote would count

Posted

I'ma need you all to give me the top two people you want viewed in order of most want viewed to least want viewed. Quote this post when you do so plz.

I would have said Rand first, then Clov but I need to reread now.

 

Both were in the middle of my list, Rand first because of his train yesterday, and I had a stronger feeling on TG being town than Clov.

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I'ma need you all to give me the top two people you want viewed in order of most want viewed to least want viewed.  Quote this post when you do so plz.

 

Translation: I will fap as I waste your time.

 

 

Hawt!

 

You think Darthe fapping is hot?

 

 

Yes, don't you?

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I'ma need you all to give me the top two people you want viewed in order of most want viewed to least want viewed.  Quote this post when you do so plz.

 

Translation: I will fap as I waste your time.

 

 

Hawt!

 

You think Darthe fapping is hot?

 

You don't?

 

Also I thought Nyn needed to unvote before her vote would count

 

She did, quoted Csarmi after he pointed it out.

 

I'm interested in Tommy and Drunk's reaction pre-flip, but probably worthless now.

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