[Basic] Eye of the World Mafia (Darkfriends win)

[WWWwombat]

Hey guys, sorry I wasn't around today.  VC in a sec.

[Krakalakachkn]

 

 

 

 

 

 

Vote Count


TG(1): NotBob
Lenlo(2): Darthe, Despo
Darthe(2): Lenlo, Dawn
NotBob(1): Tina
Dawn(3): Darthe, TG, Leelou
Tina(1): Krak
Leelou(1): Mynd


8 to lynch.  Deadline Saturday at 10 AM EDT.

 
Not that it is ever a stand-alone reason to lynch someone, but the "Third on the Lynch" rule is making some sense right now.
 
Is she seeking an easy D1 lynch or trying to help Lenlo?

 

 
Why Lenlo and not Darthe?  They both have 2 votes as of your quoted post, so explain why you chose to say Lenlo.

 

Requoting this because I still want Mynd to answer instead of TG trying to answer (but not really) for him.

 

Could go either way, Darthe or Lenlo.  I wanted to see Leelou's reaction when I said Lenlo.   At no time did she mention anything about "what about Darthe"?   She did not react like a townie trying to explain her vote. 

 

It seems like "the New DM" as I am now calling it tends to give mafia players safe fake claims.  Am I correct?

 

Oh really?  You could have gone with Darthe?

 

 

 

Been focused on the other games, I might've stretched myself too thin.  One just ended though, so I can devote more time.

 

Re: Dawn.  - I always think she's scum, it's her way of playing.  It seemed scummy to me again this game.  With Csarmi in the slot I should be able to get a much better read on it, though I'm null on him right now.  While an improvement, it leaves me with one less scum suspect.

 

Krak - I see you too have Tina listed as a scum suspect, CFD?

 

I don't like this post at all.  Begins with a "hey here is my excuse for not making sense in this game" - lets not forget that she defended Leelou BEFORE her VT claim of Gawyn with that whole Dawn mess.  Now, Dawn = Csarmi and she's backpedaling.

 

I have no idea what she means when asking Krak about a Tina CFD.  Leelou was the one pushing for a Tina lynch.  Was she testing to see if she could get him to join Leelou's lynch?  Please explain what you are asking Krak to do exactly. 

 

[v] Hally Berry [/v]

 

 

 

Y'know, upon reread, I didn't really see much to incriminate Tina.  I was confusing her play with another game.  She's more a null to me at the moment.  However, the reread did solidify a few things for me.

 

I have a problem with reading Mynd this game. He acts like his usual self and that is something I associate with town since I haven´t seen him as scum in a long, long time. But... why all of that nonsense about putting a second or third vote on anyone, and why would that be scummy? As Verb, I also wonder why Mynd said that Leelou tried to save Lenlo but didn´t say anything about Darthe having equal amount of votes as Lenlo. I will definitely keep an eye on Mynd this game. 

 

TG´s quick move from Leelou to Dawn was strange. He said that he moved because he was alone on Leelou and that Dawn needed preassure but it only took four posts before he moved it. Later he manage to fos all of those who have been mentioned as scum so far: Leelou, Dawn and Hallia.  

 

It´s funny that Leelou thinks Dawn is obsessed with Darthe when I found her self-centred. It´s strange that Dawn didn´t vote Leelou at first but waited until later, when others had started to accuse her,  to vote her

 

As for Leelou´s list - I agree with a lot of it. Thane´s vote looks bandwagony. NotBob is voting without much reasons. I think Krak looks town as well, even though he still votes me. I don´t agree about TG though. 

 

 

[unvote]

 

[v] TG [/v]

 

 

Mostly because he is going with the crowd a little too much. Fosing all the people in the spotlight. As I said, his quick change of vote was strange. I could also vote Thane. Not sure if Dawn or Leelou is mafia but I would go for Dawn before Leelou. 

Aside from the TG vote, I like a lot of her reads here.

 

 

 

Darthe doesn't have very many posts, but he seems sincere in them.  I confirm my town read on him.

 

Looking, I haven't really seen much out of Csarmi, so I'm back to being leery of that slot.

 

Mynd - I completely see your point.  I rescind my desire to lynch Tina.  My reread was pretty quick, we don't have tons of info to go on.

 

What point are you talking about?  I honestly have no idea.  The bold is baffling.

 

 

 

 

Y'know, upon reread, I didn't really see much to incriminate Tina.  I was confusing her play with another game.  She's more a null to me at the moment.  However, the reread did solidify a few things for me.

 

I have a problem with reading Mynd this game. He acts like his usual self and that is something I associate with town since I haven´t seen him as scum in a long, long time. But... why all of that nonsense about putting a second or third vote on anyone, and why would that be scummy? As Verb, I also wonder why Mynd said that Leelou tried to save Lenlo but didn´t say anything about Darthe having equal amount of votes as Lenlo. I will definitely keep an eye on Mynd this game. 

 

TG´s quick move from Leelou to Dawn was strange. He said that he moved because he was alone on Leelou and that Dawn needed preassure but it only took four posts before he moved it. Later he manage to fos all of those who have been mentioned as scum so far: Leelou, Dawn and Hallia.  

 

It´s funny that Leelou thinks Dawn is obsessed with Darthe when I found her self-centred. It´s strange that Dawn didn´t vote Leelou at first but waited until later, when others had started to accuse her,  to vote her

 

As for Leelou´s list - I agree with a lot of it. Thane´s vote looks bandwagony. NotBob is voting without much reasons. I think Krak looks town as well, even though he still votes me. I don´t agree about TG though. 

 

 

[unvote]

 

[v] TG [/v]

 

 

Mostly because he is going with the crowd a little too much. Fosing all the people in the spotlight. As I said, his quick change of vote was strange. I could also vote Thane. Not sure if Dawn or Leelou is mafia but I would go for Dawn before Leelou. 

Aside from the TG vote, I like a lot of her reads here.

 

 

Darthe doesn't have very many posts, but he seems sincere in them.  I confirm my town read on him.

 

Looking, I haven't really seen much out of Csarmi, so I'm back to being leery of that slot.

 

Mynd - I completely see your point.  I rescind my desire to lynch Tina.  My reread was pretty quick, we don't have tons of info to go on.

 

Looking more pro-town here, Hally.  Please explain your defense of Leelou when she went after Dawn.  How do you feel about her jumping off Tina and onto the Darthe train since you have a town read on him?

 

Please tell me how she is looking more pro-town here?  Why are you not following up on your previous question when she didn't answer it?

 

 

Initially I felt good about Leelou. I agreed with her that Dawn was scummy. Regarding Tina, she knows her better than I, so that's null, but I'm not liking the vote on Darthe. I just don't see the reasoning.

 

 

 

 

 

This was a really weird interaction.

 

 

I had Mynd on my town list last post but I got an idea. What if Mynd and Verb are on a team. Mynd making accusations of Verb´s playstyle in the beginning, even though he should know that the meta is outdated. Then he is linking Leelou and Verbal and going after Leelou. If she is town then Verb will look town as well?

 

[v] Mynd [/v]

 

*takes the roach from Tina and puffs twice*

 

I have an idea.  What if the world is really a dream and when we dream, its a dream inside a dream.  What if Robert Jordan, JRR Tolkein, and George RR Martin were all the same person.  What if I could fart unicorns and blow gold coins into my hankey when I sneeze?

 

Wow man.  Wow.

 

*puffs again, then passes to Halia*

 

Tina, please reread.  You may start to notice a pattern.  Some folks seem to be working together.  This lynch on Darthe stinks to high Tar Valon.  Check out Despo, Leelou, and re-read TG's posts.  If you are pro-town, you should be able to make some very solid conclusions about most of the players in this game.

 

 

 

I would love to hear you spell out the pattern you were talking about.  Please share with the group.

 

 

 

 

 

 

I would love a set of reads from the following:

 

Mynd

Notbob

Lenlo

Hallia

[Myndrunner]

Hally, the OMGUS is strong with you. 

 

I don't speak for notBob, but my take on the Leelou lynch was that it was based on tangible scummy behavior.  The whole targeting Dawn mess was all about finding an easy D1 lynch target.  You swooped in to defend her, but many of us didn't see it that way.   Even after her claim (which is still suspect) she still seemed to be trying to get something going on Tina then casually moved her vote onto Darthe.   She wasn't doing any real scumhunting. 

 

So yeah, she earned that train.  It didn't go through which I also find very interesting.

 

Oh yeah, and who did she follow on that original Dawn lynch train?  Scumsucking Darthe Padan Fain, that's who.    I don't understand why Leelou is so far up the top of everyone's townie list in this game.

[Hallia]

Did you miss how hard she rode  pushed Darthe D2?

[WWWwombat]

Vote Count

 
Hallia(2): NotBob, Kaylee
Mynd(3): Despo, Leelou, Tina
NotBob(1): Hallia
 

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.  Krak is a cool dude.  Deadline probably sometime on Thursday.

[Myndrunner]

Hally, I do have more to say on that.  Also, if you haven't noticed, I should be voting you right now to save my skin or at least get competing trains....however, I don't think you are scum. 

 

I'm traveling tomorrow but I will go in deeper with my case tomorrow night.  In the meantime, I would definitely go back and check out Leelou's failed lynch and the posts prior to her "claim" as Gawyn.  Remember that this is Eye of the World mafia.  That is key to what is really going on.  The mafia understand this and they have outed three of our power roles already.  They are winning even after sacrificing Darthe like they did.  But not for long.

 

Also, I now retract my earlier notion that we VTs could morph into power roles.  This is truly a basic game with the power roles going to those who had demonstrated powers in EotW.  Min, Lan, Moiraine, Thom, and perhaps Loial.  The boys and girls from Two rivers are likely vanilla.

[Hallia]

Hence why I voted NotBob and not you.  You were first on Leelou, so it's feasible that you felt there was a legit reason to be on Leelou, but I don't get that feeling from him.

[hazelkrs1]

Hey everyone sorry, didn't quite catch up tonight. Not only am I baby crazy, I'm also first time home buyer crazy too lol. Looking through listings really is the key to time travel...

 

Anyhoo I gotta stay up today anyways for a bit, so I'll catch up when I get home and give my full thoughts

[WWWwombat]

Hey everyone sorry, didn't quite catch up tonight. Not only am I baby crazy, I'm also first time home buyer crazy too lol. Looking through listings really is the key to time travel...

 

Anyhoo I gotta stay up today anyways for a bit, so I'll catch up when I get home and give my full thoughts

 

And by that do you mean it makes the universe spin around you?

[Leelou]

Hey everyone sorry, didn't quite catch up tonight. Not only am I baby crazy, I'm also first time home buyer crazy too lol. Looking through listings really is the key to time travel...

 

Anyhoo I gotta stay up today anyways for a bit, so I'll catch up when I get home and give my full thoughts

 

It's that way with apartments as well. I lost 3 hours the other day. 

[hazelkrs1]

It has been my experience that players who say "anyone who agrees with me is town, anyone who disagrees with me is obviously a scum!" is either scum trying to bully the town to follow them or is a terrible town leading everyone astray.  Trust me on this, I've been both of these kinds of players many times.

 SHOW ME Mynd, where I EVER said ANYTHING along the lines of "anyone who agrees with me is town, anyone who disagrees with me is obviously a scum!"

 

I can save you some time- it never fracking happened.

 

I have an aggressive playstyle. Sorry if it rustles your precious widdle sensibilities. I've never insinuated tho that anyone disagrees with me is obviously scum.

 

The fact that Despo, by his own hashtag admission, is acting lazy with his scumhunting makes him anti-town.  I'm not saying he's scum exactly, but he's not helping at all.  He could be scum and that whole drive-train on Darthe was a gambit, but a lazy town is not pro town.

I've actually been surprisingly effective lately playing lazy. Seriously, I'm spitting hot fire lately. King Kong aint got poop on me!

 

Regardless, my play has been about as protown as it gets this game. I've pressured multiple people, helped to start and analyze reactions, then saved a townie (Leelou) while finding a scum for us to lynch (Darthe). Sorry I've got enough clout that I don't have to do wot cases anymore to prove that someone is scum. Must be frustrating for your team

 

 

Consider this:  His reason for thinking me scum (when you boil it down to the core) is that I did not believe Darthe to be scum until he revealed.  He reasons that my hammer vote was because I was scum and I didn't want to look scum.  That's it.  That's his whole case.  Everything else is just his spin on that same storyline.

Ha-NO. You don't EVEN get to try and get away with this. Acting like the only reasons I believe you to be scum is because of your defense of Darthe and the hammer. That is just such bullstuff you pretty much ensured your own lynch for the day. I will not be moving my vote today.

 

Srs do, why do scum always fall into the trap of trying to boil a case down against them to two or three small trivialities that they can easily dismiss? So obvious.

 

Mynd, here's why I think KNOW you're scum:

 

1. Your initial push against Verbal early D1 was sketchy as hell, extremely disingenuous, and based off just extremely weak reasoning.

2. You and Darthe were lockstep with one another in trying to keep suspicion and attention directed at Leelou and Verb

(you n Darthe are two of the geese obv, Darthe is the one crip walking, you're the one with a beard)

3. Darthe went for one of his classic moves as scum, trying to fit a scumbuddy (you) in with two other town "reads". He said me, TG, and you were obvtown. Only thing was, me and TG were the obvtown ones (along with Verbal and Krak at that point). You weren't anywhere near obvtown. I caught him, and thus, caught you.

4. Your uber defense of Darthe. Seriously, he was pretty obviously scummy BEFORE he even claimed to be a Watcher who Follows (haven't forgotten bout that wifom "clearing" of Lenlo btw)

5. Your scummy, wifomy defense of your uber defense of a known scummer (Darthe), which was pretty much "I wouldn't do that as scum". ........ < was my reaction to that defense

6. Trying to act like you hammered Darthe, or that others suspected you for that "hammer"

7. All that scummy distraction attempt with the stuff about VT's changing roles midgame in a basic game (that's not even a mechanic you'd likely see in an ADVANCED game, suggesting such a possibility in a Basic game is, well, scummy)

8. The manner of your claim in general, it was early, it was "No wait, I know I look bad but HEAR ME OUT" which looks sketchy, and the way you've tried acting like you were CONFIRMED to be Rand or something, even tho I could easily see Wombat giving such a fake claim to mafia

9. Trying to boil the case against you down to your defense of Darthe (which you wouldn't have been able to get away with omitting) and your "hammer", disregarding ALL the other scummy things you've done this game

10. Your beard

 

Yet, when NotBob votes Halia, who did the exact same thing, NotBob must be my scum partner. 

 

Really Despo?  Let's assume that I was scum.  Wouldn't you consider Halia a more likely suspect than NotBob as my mafia partner?  She was the one who voted before me. Plus, she has even more reason to be suspicious based on her earlier defense of Leelou during the Dawnsecution.

I applaud your attempt at wifom.

 

*golfclap*

 

HOW does Hallia voting Darthe before you have ANYTHING to do with you, or the price of beans??? I never said ANYTHING about your "hammer" having anything to do with you being scum. Never ever ever.

 

Also, if I were scum, why did I hammer? I didn't need to.  If the lynch didn't reach majority, it would have gone to NO LYNCH and Darthe would have been safe. 

 

The bottom line is that a lazy town is either being a terrible townie who will lose the game for us or a scum who will win the game for them.  Let's consider all suspects.  If at the end of the day, I am still the prime suspect among everyone after everyone has been considered, so be it.  Let the Lord of Chaos hang. We have one scummy down so we can risk a mis-lynch provided it gives us good information. 

 

But lets not be so narrow minded in our scumhunting.  Especially for such weak reasoning.

 

A. You didn't hammer

B. No guarantee that without you or Hallia's vote we STILL wouldn't have gotten Darthe's lynch secured. He was so outed it was crazy.

C. This lazy townie is in the process of winning the game for town. Sorry you randed scum, but I have a feeling you won't be all "so be it" at any point regarding your lynch

 

 

So I don't move up your fancy list at all, even tho I was pretty much the main pusher of the Darthe lynch?

 

</3.

 

The bromance is over. I'm throwing out the redhead's number.

LOL - I'm not moving somebody who is a good busser up the list for making a good case. Like you said, Darthe was obvious. That doesn't earn townie points. Perhaps I hold you to a higher standard and make it more difficult for you to earn points from me? ;-)

 

 

Fae enough

 

 

(any True Blood fans out there?)

 

Altho I will admit I find it funny that the whole reason I set up a meta of bussing teammates in the first place was so that I could abuse the heck out of it (the meta I mean). But eh, working as intended I guess

 

 

 

Meh. I wasn't even sure someone would show IP to hammer let alone some derptown unvote or sc justify unvoting.

 

And I didn't know if I could be around longer.

 

You caught him in his goof with his watcher claim, just countering the character and that would have been enough imo. No need for you to have claimed doc.

 

 

I personally don't even think the CC character claim was necessary. Darthe was already pretty obvscum, and he claimed Watcher that Follows...

 

 

Reads

 

 

Lenlo - Me!

Krak - Town

Despo - Town

 

Verbal - Towny

Mynd - Towny

Hallia - Towny

Darthe - Towny

 

Dice - Need more

NotBob - Null

 

Leelou - Scummy

Thane - Scummy - On hold for another day to give him a chance to get some results.

 

Tina - Scum

Dawn/Csarmi - Scum

 

 

 

[v] CS[/v]

 

He had Darthe as towny (after voting him the entire phase before), and Thane as scummy. The only scum read he had align with mine was on Tina. 

 

Here is his response post: http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/89767-basic-eye-of-the-world-mafia-day-3/?p=3273939

 

I don't really like his explanation on Thane, looks like he was trying to discredit him some.

 

---

 

MEH

 

 

Well one way or the other, we've caught scum.

 

 

Aye, I still GMEO Lenlo. I found his reads atrocious there, and his "one way or the other" thing was total crap. Darthe was so obviously scum there.

 

Scum leans:

 

Mynd

Hally

Leno

 

 

Town Leans:

 

Lee

Verb

Csarmi

Despo

Krak

 

Null:

 

NotBob

Tina

 

Vote Hally

 

Chopped out the full reads list, but yeah altho Kaylee doesn't really seem to look at the game in a "big picture" kind of perspective, her reads did seem genuine, each one was explained out fairly thoughtfully. Altho I find Krak to be obvtown, I think he's barking up the wrong tree with Kay. She made her stances on everyone fairly clear at the end of the post, like I showed here. Not everyone will be all bold as can be when giving their reads, some say leans instead of reads. /shrug

 

Up through the end of D1.  Darthe didn't have very much interaction with many people.

 

 

 

Let's go. 

 

[v]Len[/v]

Its gonna be like this huh Berry?

 

[v]Darthe[/v]

 

Lets do this.

 

Is that page 1 OMGUS?  I-I don't know how to feel about this.

 

He had a joke vote exchange with Len, and then the thing with Dawn/Csarmi.  With Darthe flipping scum, Dawn's OMGSUS D1 gives him townie points for me.

 

And then you have the train on Leelou that started up D1.  She was a big pusher D2 for Darthe's train, so I think analyzing her train is good.

 

Vote Count

 

Darthe(1): Lenlo

Dawn(3): TG, Leelou, Hallia

Tina(1): Krak

Leelou(6): Mynd, NotBob, Dawn, Darthe, Thane, Despo

TG(1): Tina

 

8 to lynch.  Deadline Saturday at 10 AM EDT (roughly 24 hours from now).

Most suspicious of NotBob

 

@ Hallia,

 

Leelou earned that sudden train...

 

I still don't see how she earned the train.

 

Vote Notbob

 

 

This post disappointed me to a great degree Hallia. Looks like you're scum along with Mynd after all (his wifom attempt at distancing earlier does nothing to sway me away from thinking that)

 

Darthe had a heck of a lot moar interaction with peeps than that (his push against Dawn early, then continued insistence that Leelou or Verbal was scum, or how bout his saying me, Mynd, and TG were obvtown?).

 

The "reasoning" for voting NotBob is just so.... I mean it's so weak that I suddenly have less energy after reading it again. Your case is robbing me of my lifeforce.

 

Let's analyze the D1 train on Leelou cause she kinda pushed Darthe D2? And NotBob is suspicious on that train because.... reasons?

 

http://youtu.be/3Dwfc0qx9Os

 

(jump to 1:52, guess you can't embed the video with a later start time on DM /shrug)

 

(Prob my favorite Mr. Torgue quote, and if you don't know who Mr. Torgue is, then I feel sorry for you)

 

What happened to your whole "I suspect people at the end of a train" business? Doesn't qualify anymore... since YOU were the late vote on the Darthe train?

 

Also, Mynd and NotBob were right about one thing- Leelou DID earn that early train. Her early behavior did seem odd, odd enough to apply some pressure D1. Dat is some rully fake looking reasoning for acting like you suspect NotBob Hallia.

 

I'm at my uncle's computer in Connetticutt and for some reason it doesn't like quotes.  I'll elaborate more tomorrow night when I get home from traveling.

 

@Csarmi - I thought I did hammer that vote.   Even before you counter claimed, I was thinking "Watcher sounds a bit bizarre for Moirine's role" but your CC seemed legit.  Still even in that moment, I wasn't 100% sure Darthe would flip scum.  Between the two, he seemed like the more likely LLL but if he flipped town, you were next of course. 

 

@Csarmi (again) - Actually, you were on it but you were also actively scumhunting others with your vote on Darthe.  Despo was being way to narrow minded on the lynch long before Darthe even claimed.  I don't like narrow minded lynches, especially without competing trains. 

 

@Verb - That is one of a couple places I have seen that verbage.  It made better sense to me as Rand al'Thor, but it sounds like it is likely true for most of the Two River's gang.  No dice for Mat yet, no Wolf Dreams for Perrin either.  Nynaeve may even not have more than her braid to pull at this point.  As we have discovered recently, Basic games don't seem to be as basic as they used to be. 

 

@Tina - Lemme make sure I have this right.  You believe that Rand al'Thor is likely my given safe fake claim.  In a game called Eye of the World.  Starring Rand al'Thor.  Am I right about this?  This is your reason for voting me.  Has nothing to do with bandwagoning at all, right?

 

I think I addressed everyone's questions at this point.  I don't like Despo's "Agree wit me or you are scum" approach here.   If he is town, he's going to lose the game for us if he doesn't consider other options.   Darthe's lynch went through because of his weak claim, not because of any sharp casing.

 

Darthe claimed Watcher that Followed. There really wasn't anything up in the air anymore after that. And incidentally, the only way Csarmi would have been next is if Darthe flipped MOIRAINE, not just if he flipped town. Don't forget details like that when you're trying to look like you're town.

 

#DAT "I claimed a major character, mods will NEVER give a major character as a fake claim!" defense.... weaksauce

 

Darthe's lynch went through in large part because of MY actions. I didn't have to do any sharp casing, I showed myself to have town's interest in hand, and showed why he was scum. Didn't have to jump through hoops of fire to do so, just used my voice.

 

And again, I am in the process of winning this game for town. Sorry you randed on the wrong side of me

 

#Okaythatsoundedconceited

 

 

Hally, the OMGUS is strong with you. 

 

I don't speak for notBob, but my take on the Leelou lynch was that it was based on tangible scummy behavior.  The whole targeting Dawn mess was all about finding an easy D1 lynch target.  You swooped in to defend her, but many of us didn't see it that way.   Even after her claim (which is still suspect) she still seemed to be trying to get something going on Tina then casually moved her vote onto Darthe.   She wasn't doing any real scumhunting. 

 

So yeah, she earned that train.  It didn't go through which I also find very interesting.

 

Oh yeah, and who did she follow on that original Dawn lynch train?  Scumsucking Darthe Padan Fain, that's who.    I don't understand why Leelou is so far up the top of everyone's townie list in this game.

LOL you STILL trying to cling to the possibility of mislynching Leelou?

 

 

You are right in that Leelou deserved the early train, her early behavior did seem questionable, questionable enough at least for a D1 train. She is town tho. Nothing looks sketchy at all about her "claim" as you put it, you're just grasping at straws mate.

[hazelkrs1]

 

Hey everyone sorry, didn't quite catch up tonight. Not only am I baby crazy, I'm also first time home buyer crazy too lol. Looking through listings really is the key to time travel...

 

Anyhoo I gotta stay up today anyways for a bit, so I'll catch up when I get home and give my full thoughts

 

And by that do you mean it makes the universe spin around you?

 

 

 

*insert glib comment about the universe spinning around me for some other random reason*

 

 

 

Hey everyone sorry, didn't quite catch up tonight. Not only am I baby crazy, I'm also first time home buyer crazy too lol. Looking through listings really is the key to time travel...

 

Anyhoo I gotta stay up today anyways for a bit, so I'll catch up when I get home and give my full thoughts

 

It's that way with apartments as well. I lost 3 hours the other day. 

 

 

Aye, I remember doing the same before.

[hazelkrs1]

Follow me to victory guys

 

 

Lord of the Cage ftw

[hazelkrs1]

Also, Hallia is totes ducking me. One of her classic scumtells.

[Leelou]

 

 

 

Hey everyone sorry, didn't quite catch up tonight. Not only am I baby crazy, I'm also first time home buyer crazy too lol. Looking through listings really is the key to time travel...

 

Anyhoo I gotta stay up today anyways for a bit, so I'll catch up when I get home and give my full thoughts

 

It's that way with apartments as well. I lost 3 hours the other day. 

 

 

Aye, I remember doing the same before.

 

 

Try it in downtown Boston...luckily I have time. LOL 

[Hallia]

Are you looking at the time?  It's 7:30am for me sir.

 

As to my post, way to misconstrue, because I said he didn't have a lot of interaction on D1.  That's as far as I got in my reread, I said so, if you'd actually read.

 

I'll do more after work.

[hazelkrs1]

Overdefensiveness doesn't look genuine imo.

 

And no Hallia, I didn't misconstrue you, or tell any falsehoods. Pretty sure most, if not all, the stuff I mentioned Darthe doing was all interaction from D1. He pushed @ Leelou D1, well it happened more after her train died down, but he was pushing for it nonetheless. That thing he said about me, TG, and Mynd was from D1. His early aggressiveness towards Dawn was D1.

 

 

At least you responded to me

 

 

Regardless Hallia, if that's all you have even after only a D1 reread.... then yeah, color me still unimpressed with your performance.

 

[Krakalakachkn]

@Des

 

I had Dice as a solid scumread, so of course I'm going to push his replacement, especially when he wasn't very active. Kaylee is assuaging my fears atm.

[Verbal32]

I have Dice as a scumread as well.  I gotta make a new list - a few people have moved.

[Verbal32]

Krak
Thane
Des

NotBob
Leelou

Salami

Lenlo
Tina

Hallia
Mynd
Dice Kaylee
 

Changes from before:  Lenlo moved down to green due to not saying much recently, which makes me think he's hiding after seeing a few people have town reads of him.  Des moved up to high green based on his last few posts.  Tina went down to orange for some of the same reasons I moved Lenlo from blue to green.

 

Krak & Thane I'm sold on.  Des is close.  I feel comfortable with my greens right now, but that group could easily move around.

[Verbal32]

Des gets bonus points for using Spiderman (sorta).

[hazelkrs1]

It's okay Verb, you're still LOCK CLEAR, even tho you listed Thane as a town "read" (he flipped a few pages ago)

 

[csarmi]

I may be remembering wrong but... Why would Hally arrive and hammer Darthe as scum? Couldn't she just - not show up?

 

Mynd said he'd be around then he arrived after the hammer.

[Hallia]

I do my best Dessypoo, whether I impress you or not <3

[Krakalakachkn]

Mynd - in your talk about VTs and possible power emergence you stated that the Two Rivers boys had no powers in that book. But while that's true for Perrin and Mat, Rand began channeling in the EotW. He even fought Aginor and the Trollocs.