[Standard] - Hitchhiker's Game to the Galaxy - Game Over

[csarmi]

Votecounts will be sporadic in the next hours as I'll be resting/traveling. Again, feel free to create your own if need be, this is a hammer game and there are no voting sheenanigans.

 

Nine to lunch.

[hazelkrs1]

The deadline will not be extended. There is 6.5h left. Enjoy.

!!!!!!

 

Wowzers. Didn't realize it was that close.

 

@.@

 

We need to find a consensus scum read fast- people juststart peppering out your top three. If there's some1 tthat enough people find scummy, we might be best served going there. I think BFG was on a lot of people's radars....

 

My top three choices for today are Cory, Thane, or BFG. In that order.

[BFG]

And since peoples read on me comes from my WoT

 

Shrug, there's not a lot I can say to this. My WoT have far more to do with how much time I have per page then anything else. With a busy thread I can't magic up more time, unfortunately. Wednesday I started reading around 11pm and gave up sometime before 3, I get ready to go to work around 7.30. Thursday I had an hour before I headed out. Yesterday I spent most of the evening trying to format the points I was trying to make the previous days.

 

 

 

As for why I'm more active than normal (going back to Christmas), as I said in the signup thread when I wanted a mentor, my game's not been great recently. My best Town Game was either Walking Dead or Weasley from when I started and one difference was that I was more active in the beginning of the game. The only game where catching up late worked well for me was the Christmas game when I had excellent Day 1 reads, then, well Tommy. Since then my reads have been awful.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And back to the actual game. I have free time now, so I'll get back to the stuff that I skimmed over the first time.

[Niniel]

Cory always say that you should show that you are town right away. But I don´t see him showing that he is town. His emo outburst was strange. Des had done nothing that was worth triggering that. Then he character claimed out of the blue. Is it townie to character claim one of the main characters without any preassure? I would say no. Then he takes a lot of time telling us that him being emotional is more common when he is town. I won´t read through other games to check that and everyone knows that you can use your meta as a shield anyway. Now it looks like he is trying to do some damage control. 

 

[unvote]

 

[v] Cory [/v]

[Leelou]

Right now: Cory, Pral and RTE/Thane

 

Cory for the way he handled himself after being questioned and then character revealing with little to no pressure

Pral for not making any game related comments and then his reads feel off

RTE his vote/unvote around Dice

Thane same as above. Vote on Dice didn't come until it was coaxed out of him by AJ

[ReleaseTheEvil]

Cory always say that you should show that you are town right away. But I don´t see him showing that he is town. His emo outburst was strange. Des had done nothing that was worth triggering that. Then he character claimed out of the blue. Is it townie to character claim one of the main characters without any preassure? I would say no. Then he takes a lot of time telling us that him being emotional is more common when he is town. I won´t read through other games to check that and everyone knows that you can use your meta as a shield anyway. Now it looks like he is trying to do some damage control. 

 

[unvote]

 

[v] Cory [/v]

 

The problem with Cory is that when he isn't going full throttle, he's doing damage control. It's one or the other with him based on when I have played with him. If this 'Thunderdome' really is 'happening' then I have a stronger 

[hazelkrs1]

Tina, just cause I remember you asking me-

 

I pushed Thane instead of BFG at the time cause I had more to go on in a way- I felt pretty confident in my meta read on BFG, but it's not as easy to build a case on meta alone (it's a subjective argument to make, not everyone will see it), whereas Thane had recently slipped up in a more overt manner, imo at least.

 

Still wary of a bunch of other players tho. Still, the associative tells disrupt some of those reads, so hopefully fleshing a few out goes a long way to solving the game.

 

Bout ready to add Pray to my LOCK CLEARS btw. And Tina too, for that matter. Haven't found a post I didn't like of hers in a while.

[ReleaseTheEvil]

town read on Des than Cory, easily even. 

 

Have to go back through some of the recent cases and am hoping to be around at deadline. Most information I've ever seen on a Day 1 which will help us a ton. Also

[Niniel]

But I´m almost run out of Marvin quotes. :(

 

 

One of the last:

 

Trillian: What are you supposed to do with a manically depressed robot? 
Marvin: You think you've got problems. What are you supposed to do if you are a manically depressed robot? No, don't even bother answering. I'm 50,000 times more intelligent than you and even I don't know the answer. 

 

 

Des - is BFG still on your scum list? 

[ReleaseTheEvil]

 a lot of distractions (Hi Cory) but worth the effort to sort through and will help us solve the game with more info to work with. 

 

My reads haven't changed since my last list though but need to go through cases again

[hazelkrs1]

Fwiw, while I found RTE kinda scummy, and mebbe faking a PR to inflate post count like Leelou said, but after realizing every post was 42 words or less pretty much started swaying me back to null. While PR's aren't strictly alignment indicative, I kinda doubt he'd fake a PR that specific as scum- would be ingenious if he did, but that kind of move doesn't really seem like RTE. While he might try a gimmick as scum, one that required that much commitment wouldn't seem likely.

 

So then there's the wifom if a mod would give a scummer a PR, making them stand out a bit, or not. That's obviously gaming the mod however, so meh. Point is, imo it's at least slightly more likely that RTE is town cause of the 42 PR.

[Niniel]

Des - is BFG still on your scum list? 

 

As you say, the 42 pr is just wifom. Doesn´t point to either alignment. 

[Leelou]

Didn't his posts start out normal and then he broke down into the 42 words or less thing? BRB going to check.

[Leelou]

Just checked, his first post was exactly 42 words. 

[Nynaeve]

RTE - Town. He is a Habs fan. We stick together. Habs for life.

 

BFG, AJ, Thane - You are archers. I am cav (from the Band). The rivalry states that you must be scum till proven innocent. And I couldnt stand an archer getting the best of me :) So Null/Scum

AJ - Voted for Verb for no real reason around page 42 (yay 42). What was that about. I know I have a vote on Verb. But that was a truly verbal vote for me. I dont trust verb. He is town but I wanted to see if someone would jump on the bandwagon or defend him. 

 

Dice - I am still unsure. I love the guy but think he might be solo/scum. 

 

Pral, Tina, & Leelou - Never played with you before. We can share our toys and have a playdate if you want :) Null

Clov - What is with this Fishdyx thing? Null

 

Verb - He is my mentor and overlord. All bow to the mighty verbal. Just watch out if he starts posting poetry. Town

Nyn - Original thoughts were you were bouncy and fun. Still think that. But maybe a bit thorny underneath too. Rawr. Town/Null/Solo temptress?

 

Vos - I got nothing. 

 

I... don't even know how to respond to this   LMAO

 

 

 

Ah thanks dice.

So I can now finger people suspiciously. Awesome. Who wants to be fingered by lazy first?

 

 

 

 

Nynaeve - I don't see why a lot of people have a townread on her. From my read on her, she is looking like someone who is doing a lot of FoS but not pursuing it a lot, which seems to like setting up for future days. Starte off with AJ but apart from a couple of conevrsations with AJ, doesn't take it further. And, suspecting Mish and taking it a bit ahead but never voting her. The only stance she had was on Dice but she unvoted him even when she is iffy on him and even after arguing on a very minor point. I think there were some FoS on verbal and Des too in her gameplay, from what I remember. I also see her defending Leelou a lot, which I am feeling slightly iffy with. Overall, I feel that she is talking from the sidelines in most issues and her only strong stance was on Dice which she is currently fence-sitting.

 

I actually responded in jest to this before but I think it merits a serious response as well. The quote got screwy so the tag disappeared, I'm quoting Pral.

 

Basically, my suspicion on AJ has been there from early on in the game. I've pointed out the posts that bothered me and we had a back and forth with some people agreeing with my points. Then later, upon dice related matters, we got into another back and forth where my suspicion of him grew even more from the interaction. If that's not pursuing my suspicions, then I'm not sure what you're getting at. If you're referring to starting a train on him, the only reason I haven't is because everyone has made it pretty damn clear that he's on their townlean so that train won't get anywhere. That doesn't lessen my concerns about him. 

 

I did point out Mish's huge overreaction because it's exactly what it was. A massive wtf reaction. And it was also an hilarious reaction that I like to reference for humor's sake. I didn't vote her because I've voted her for this very same reason in two previous games and she flipped town. Why? Because she's an emotional player. So yes, I didn't place a vote on her, I placed it on dice because of the two he seemed scummier. And I've explained this in my previous posts, before placing my vote on dice.

 

I unvoted dice because of his role claim. Pure and simple. If it wasn't for his claim, I wouldn't have unvoted. I've made that very clear. Am I supposed to suddenly believe him and put him on my town lean for this claim? Absolutely not. He's on the spot right now with his claim. If he doesn't deliver, then lynching him is back ON.

 

You might think what I pointed out about dice was a minor point. I disagree. Chuck it to a difference of opinions. Regardless, I pointed it out after I cast my vote on dice, so obviously that wasn't the main reason I suspected him.

 

I don't recall ever fosing Verbal or Des. Would like you to provide a quote unless you're simply making that up.

 

I read Leelou as genuine and put her on my town lean. And when people tried to misrep her, dice and Mish specifically if I recall, I said my peace. I usually don't keep things inside, in case that wasn't obvious :P

 

I don't feel like I'm sitting at the sidelines at all. I've shared my leans and I've cast my votes where I thought best, after ISOing and giving it a lot of thought. I might not have the playing style of Cory, Tommy or Des that tend to take on the reins and lead lynches like a cavalry, but I'm comfortable and content with my way.

 

 

 

Regarding Clov, I have played only two games with him and Tommy's meta read on him was on the spot. I don't see that it is happening in this game. And, hence the initial read.

Are you talking about Real Genius? Because Tommy and I lead the lynch on Clov and he flipped town. Tommy used quotes from a different game to show his scum meta and we ended up being dead wrong. Definitely not on the spot.

 

 

Nyn

[BFG]

Ok, people are around.

 

Pral's read on me is that my WoT are 'off'. He then asks me why I think Des's vote on Clov wasn't a joke, when it os something that I have repeated on thread even before his reads list. This means that Pral is not reading my posts, which mean his read on me is literally copied from Des. (it also means he's not reading Des's posts in the level of detail I'd expect, but that's not as important as most people missed it, felt it wasn't important)

 

 

 

Minor point but interesting that Pral separates himself from townies in this post.

 

And I guess once again I fins myself on the unpopular side of the fence but meh.

 

What makes you think that Des's initial vote on Clov was a joke/reaction test?

 

Why are you using Tommy's meta on Clov from a game where Tommy was wrong about Clov's alignment to help shape your read?

 

Pretty sure Cory reference Thane's self read.s

 

Clov's post that Des quoted in his vote was a joke post, where Clov advocates lynching all guys. It was pretty obvious Des was playing along with it, along with probably testing his reaction. I will put it back to you. Why do you think it was not a joke vote?

 

Regarding Clov, I have played only two games with him and Tommy's meta read on him was on the spot. I don't see that it is happening in this game. And, hence the initial read.

 

Lol, are you even reading the thread? Or my posts? Seriously actually. Especially since your read of me is based on my posts being 'off'.

 

I've highlighted the relevant part for you in the spoiler below. I've also repeated the quote several times in my conversation with Des if you read my actual posts. So since you've read my posts to think that they're 'off' how have you missed this conversation? He's also not reading Des's posts to have missed both the initial comment and the follow up conversation with me.

 

Tommy read Clov wrong in that game, so his meta read on Clov is off, based on that one game. I have no problem with you referencing a game in which you played together as evidence, but I don't understand how using Tommy's meta is

 

This looks a lot like sheeping somebody else read (Des on me) without actually doing any work, specifically Pral says that my posts are off and lacking the detail he'd expect. Since he's missed point I've made repeatedly, even before his initial read, it looks to me like he's not actually reading the thread and making his reads based on other peoples opinions. This isn't a TownPral.

 

[v]Pral[/v]

 

 

Ok, this is the Clov/Des thing I've been trying to explain, in all it's gory detail. Some quotes are going to be a bit repetitive I'm afraid, since I've quoted them a few times to try and make my point.

 

I will spoiler it though.

 

A lot of posts have had quotes deleted for clarity.

 

 

 

 

So this is Clov's first post referencing a joke. Note that this is his OP.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Lynching all the girls is a dumb idea.  Now lynching other dudes?  THAT I can get behind.

 

This is Des's first post referencing the same thing.

 

 

 

Lets lynch all girls and leave me with all the guys ^_^

 

 

 

Nyn

I looked up how to lynch all the girls in the Guide, and it said "don't".

 

*snerk*

 

Mish won

 

 

 

 

Des carries on catching up and votes Clov. I initially assumed it was a joke vote.

 

 

Lynching all the girls is a dumb idea. Now lynching other dudes? THAT I can get behind.

^Scum

 

[v]Clovfish[/v]

 

 

However here he states that it was a genuine mafia read. The problem with this is that Des is voting Clov for something he did as well.

 

And a random smattering of other stuff:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Lynching all the girls is a dumb idea.  Now lynching other dudes?  THAT I can get behind.

 

Fwiw this was the post which earlier made me feel Clov might be scum- he references a joke that was already old by this point. To me it looked like scum trying to fit in with the jokey atmosphere but not reacting in the moment

 

Since then however he has looked much townier to me, he has followed up on stuff worth following up on, is asking questions and engaging others, but not being opportunistic about it. He's one of my stronger town reads now in fact.

 

 

Which I try to point out here.

 

http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/89426-standard-hitchhikers-game-to-the-galaxy-day-one/?p=3253061

 

Ok, Des says this is the quote that gave him a mafia read on Clove

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Fwiw this was the post which earlier made me feel Clov might be scum- he references a joke that was already old by this point. To me it looked like scum trying to fit in with the jokey atmosphere but not reacting in the moment

 

 

 

Since then however he has looked much townier to me, he has followed up on stuff worth following up on, is asking questions and engaging others, but not being opportunistic about it. He's one of my stronger town reads now in fact.

Lynching all the girls is a dumb idea.  Now lynching other dudes?  THAT I can get behind.

 

 

 

 

Lets lynch all girls and leave me with all the guys ^_^

 

 

 

Nyn

I looked up how to lynch all the girls in the Guide, and it said "don't".

 

*snerk*

 

Mish won

 

 

Yet Des's first post references the same thing and comes after Clov's.

 

 

 

Lynching all the girls is a dumb idea. Now lynching other dudes? THAT I can get behind.

^Scum

 

[v]Clovfish

 

And his vote to complete the sequence.

 

 

I'm not following Des much at all yet.

 

 

 

Des's first response is basically to discredit me. Although to be fair he later responds more fully.

 

BFG most likely aint town. Meta read, but her wot's are completely off. She'll wot as town or scum, but as town her wots are filled with questions and her looking for small things others may have missed. As scum she'll just sheep stuff others have said and respond to OT stuff a lot. This meta is extremely reliable btw- I have correctly read her the past ~5 games I've been in with her. I'll respond to her stuff towards me specifically if I get the chance. Suffice it to say however, that she has risen high on my scumdar since.

 

 

Gonna go ahead and spoiler this wall, has a lot of good stuff tho:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/89426-standard-hitchhikers-game-to-the-galaxy-day-one/?p=3253061

 

Ok, Des says this is the quote that gave him a mafia read on Clove

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Lynching all the girls is a dumb idea.  Now lynching other dudes?  THAT I can get behind.

 

 

*snerk*

 

Mish won

 

Yet Des's first post references the same thing and comes after Clov's.

 

(my vote on Clov when I first joined game)

 

And his vote to complete the sequence.

 

 

I'm not following Des much at all yet.

 

 Uh, you serious? Pretty obvious what the difference is here. Clov posts during the day, like a normal person. I post at night, like a vampire. He is able to react to everything realtime, minus the occasional ninja, I catch up on everything after most action has died down already. I kinda like just posting as I catch up lately, makes it very organic and hopefully lets others see me as town sooner, so I first reacted to Mish's post, then several pages later saw Clov talking about the joke. Wasn't much, but to me at the time it looked like it coulda been Clov trying to react naturally to banter but not doing it in the moment, moar catching up to everyone else. Plus, in this way scum can extend earlier joke conversations.

 

 

So here he's saying that the difference between his post and Clov's was that Clov can post in the moment while Des is playing catch up. Problem is that this is Clov's first post, so him saying it's Clov trying to react normally to banter, but failing doesn't make any sense, since Clov is effectively playing catch up as well.

 

 

Uh, you serious? Pretty obvious what the difference is here. Clov posts during the day, like a normal person. I post at night, like a vampire. He is able to react to everything realtime, minus the occasional ninja, I catch up on everything after most action has died down already. I kinda like just posting as I catch up lately, makes it very organic and hopefully lets others see me as town sooner, so I first reacted to Mish's post, then several pages later saw Clov talking about the joke. Wasn't much, but to me at the time it looked like it coulda been Clov trying to react naturally to banter but not doing it in the moment, moar catching up to everyone else. Plus, in this way scum can extend earlier joke conversations.

Above is Deep's response to me...

 

Lynching all the girls is a dumb idea.  Now lynching other dudes?  THAT I can get behind.

This is Clov's first post... incidentally about 40 minutes before Des's OP

 

 

Which again I try to point out.

 

That being said, you were right about Leelou responding to Verbal before I thought she did. Missed that. And eh, I guess I can see your point regarding my initial suspicion of Clov. But, like I've said before, being hypocritical doesn't necessarily make you scum. I will often fos others for doing stuff I do all the time. Sort of a "Do as I say, not as I do" situation.

This is Des's most recent response. And now he says he's being hypocritical, but makes no mention of trying to pass it off earlier as Clov being slow to respond, which implies that he's been in thread and posting.

 

But this doesn't jive with what he said earlier, or maybe he's still missing my point. Clov's first post was him playing catch up, so Des's entire reason for voting is null and void. If Des missed that it was Clov's first post than fine just say so. Or if he was being hypocritical why not say so first instead of trying to sell Clov extending joke/being slow to respond?

 

 

 

TLDR: Clov enters thread with a response to Nyn's joke, Des enters the thread with the same thing. Des later votes Clov for the joke and later explains that it was a genuine mafia read. I question him and he says that it's because Des is playing catch up while Clov can play real time. I point out that it was Clov's OP and Des says, being hypocritical doesn't make him mafia.

 

Being hypocritical doesn't make him mafia, but I don't understand why it took so long to get to an answer.

 

 

[Leelou]

Right now, I want to vote either Cory or Pral. 

[hazelkrs1]

But I´m almost run out of Marvin quotes. :(

 

 

One of the last:

 

Trillian: What are you supposed to do with a manically depressed robot?

Marvin: You think you've got problems. What are you supposed to do if you are a manically depressed robot? No, don't even bother answering. I'm 50,000 times more intelligent than you and even I don't know the answer.

 

 

Des - is BFG still on your scum list?

Yes, as previously stated she is third on my scum list.

 

Just from memory, my list looks something like:

 

CLEAR WARLOCKS:

Clov

Verb

Nyn

AJ

Pray

Tina

 

Last two additions cause KaWHI NOT. #YOLOGSGDFF (go spurs go drive for five )

 

LOCH NESS SCUM MONSTERS:

 

Cory

Thane

BFG

 

Wary of:

 

Leelou

Hallia

Dice (even with the claim, still worth keeping an eye on)

 

Meh to Null to Whateverish (consider this group slightly townish):

 

Vos

Lazy

RTE

 

And... I think that's everyone. Meh, might as well color this list.

[BFG]

Fwiw I'm currently most suspicious of Pral/AJ/Des/Cory.

 

Pral and Des I've explained on thread. I'm more confident on Pral then Des.

 

AJ's more of a niggle, but early on he 'joked' that he was happy I'm Town to. In his post before that he was saying that I was relaxed but he didn't put much faith in it as he'd misread me the past couple of games we've played. In his post after he said that he wanted me to be Town and that coloured his read. I'll grab it when I get there. Other than that I mostly agree with Nyn's points that she made.

 

I really don't know what to make of emoCory

[hazelkrs1]

Yeah- I checked RTE's ISO as well. Don't think he's broken it once. Always 42.

 

And yeah, its not much in his favor, but I figured it gave him a slight bump up. Could be a mod given PR, but to scum, but I doubt its a faked PR on RTE's part.

[hazelkrs1]

Fwiw I'm currently most suspicious of Pral/AJ/Des/Cory.

 

Pral and Des I've explained on thread. I'm more confident on Pral then Des.

 

AJ's more of a niggle, but early on he 'joked' that he was happy I'm Town to. In his post before that he was saying that I was relaxed but he didn't put much faith in it as he'd misread me the past couple of games we've played. In his post after he said that he wanted me to be Town and that coloured his read. I'll grab it when I get there. Other than that I mostly agree with Nyn's points that she made.

 

I really don't know what to make of emoCory

 

 

In all seriousness those are some pretty terrible reads BFG. Cory is the only one that legit looks scummy, yet HE'S the one you hedge on. Moar obvious plox?

[Nynaeve]

Clov - I can sense that he is not overdoing the questioning routine that Tommy pointed out the in Real Genius game. His stance on Dice again has been good and not the nudgy type I saw when I was scummate with him

 

 

Referring to this again. Clov flipped town that game. The fact that you're not seeing the questioning routine, which Clov has been found doing both as scum and as town, means nothing.

 

 

 

Continuing from where I left yesterday.

 

Among the rest, following are the null but slightly leaning town group

 

Cory - His play has been slightly different here. He is doing a lot of "POE the town reads" which he does every game, whether he is town or scum. But, I don't see the aggressiveness that he goes after his people which looks like he is still trying to solve. He was easily sheeping off other scum reads in the RG game and voting the trains, which is missing here. However, the absolute lack of a stance or vote on anyone make me feel a bit iffy because it looks like he is intentionally trying to avoid it - and this is what pushes him to null.

 

Mish/Vos - She plays quite carefully as scum and doing those subtle nudges. Her vote on Leelou was not her trying to blend in but actually going after her reads. There were other points brought out by others - her "you target when I am sleeping" comment was basically null and I don't see why it has got as much attention.

 

Tina - I liked this post from her where she seems quite frank about her fence-sitting. However, her vote on Dice seemed slightly out of the blue but considering that she has mainly commented on Dice, Mish and leelou so far, I can get why she voted her

 

Dice - Dice is always hard to read because his posts usually comes off as scummy. He doesn't explain things very well and goes after what others have already said. However, I can sympathise with him because I find myself in the same situation - where we are not on real time conversation with others and are mostly catching up. That said, he has claimed as scum in some games before and as someone suggested, Watcher could also be a scum (given Csarmi's setups, this is a good possibility). However, as of now, I can believe his claim and he will soon be caught later if he is lying.

 

AJ - His reads have looked straightforward, including the one on mine (which I will address in a later post). I am not liking him doing a wagonomics analysis before we have got any flips, but can see the intent. Ties to what Cory went after me in the RG game - about conditional reads. Slightly looks more like he has some information that others don't and setting up based on that.

 

Now, on to the truly NULL read

 

Lazy - I haven't seen him giving any read at all in the game. I resonate with his style in that D1 is a poopfest and about not sharing when it is not needed. If I am not getting any reads in D2 or further when there is a lot of information to base it on, then I will get suspicious

 

Then, the actual Null to slightly scum reads.

 

BFG - I was hydra with her on the Mass Effect game and I could see the difference in her WoTs in that game. Des has already mentioned it but her WoTs are there because it needs to be there. Rather than truly focusing on the gameplay. I can see her trying to hide in her WoTs

 

RTE - His fencesitting on Dice didn't sit well with me. His vote on Dice   came quite opportunistically and he starts fencesitting on him saying that he has difficulty in reading Dice . His play seems to be very safe so far. 

 

Hallia - Her vote on Mish was basically sheeping on what others said andfocusing on a minor point about Mish's sleeping statement. Looks like a forced vote and not liking that. Again, playing very safe not trying to have a hard stance on a lot of people. 

 

Leelou - She has been in both Mish and Dice wagons and the votes have not looked convincing. She seems to buddy Verbal a lot, which is kind of normal that she would but I am not seeing a genuine read of her on him. Like when she explains her read on everyone but verbal or liking a post just for the heck of it. 

 

Nynaeve - I don't see why a lot of people have a townread on her. From my read on her, she is looking like someone who is doing a lot of FoS but not pursuing it a lot, which seems to like setting up for future days. Starte off with AJ but apart from a couple of conevrsations with AJ, doesn't take it further. And, suspecting Mish and taking it a bit ahead but never voting her. The only stance she had was on Dice but she unvoted him even when she is iffy on him and even after arguing on a very minor point. I think there were some FoS on verbal and Des too in her gameplay, from what I remember. I also see her defending Leelou a lot, which I am feeling slightly iffy with. Overall, I feel that she is talking from the sidelines in most issues and her only strong stance was on Dice which she is currently fence-sitting.

 

 

 

What bugs me about your casing of people that you're leaning null to scum on is that a lot of it revolves under the assumption that dice is a townie. What happens to all your reads if it turns out he's not?

 

 

Hallia not having a hard stance at this point of the game? null

BFG hiding in her wots? I don't see that. I ISOed her and she made descent points.

RTE, Leelou, - dice related reasons to the most part. I think dice was acting scummy so I don't see anything odd about their vote on him.

Me - I already responded to all your points.

 

 

I'd be up for a Pral lynch. He's not making sense like he did in Real Genius and was being PralGOAT. He keeps clearing Clov over his alleged meta. I explained why he's wrong there. I don't like his explanations for his reads or how he's basing most of his read of other people on the premise that dice is a townie.

 

I don't know what to do about Lazy. Every time I read his list of leans I just laugh >.>

 

 

p.s: Just to clarify, I do have a townlean on Clov. I just think Pral is fabricating the reason he has a townlean on him.

 

 

 

Nyn

[hazelkrs1]

Bleurgh phone dying. Nyerp!!!!!!

[BFG]

 

Fwiw I'm currently most suspicious of Pral/AJ/Des/Cory.

 

Pral and Des I've explained on thread. I'm more confident on Pral then Des.

 

AJ's more of a niggle, but early on he 'joked' that he was happy I'm Town to. In his post before that he was saying that I was relaxed but he didn't put much faith in it as he'd misread me the past couple of games we've played. In his post after he said that he wanted me to be Town and that coloured his read. I'll grab it when I get there. Other than that I mostly agree with Nyn's points that she made.

 

I really don't know what to make of emoCory

 

 

In all seriousness those are some pretty terrible reads BFG. Cory is the only one that legit looks scummy, yet HE'S the one you hedge on. Moar obvious plox?

 

Read my post on Pral.

 

He's stated that my WoT are off, yet missed one of the major things I've been pointing out, repeatedly. Namely your vote on Clov. He can disagree with me that's fine, he can ignore that you said it was a mafia read. But to miss that I've been repeatedly pointing it out? That's way off, given that his 'read' on me is that my walls are off. If he's not been reading them how does he have an opinion?

[Leelou]

I don't know what to do about Lazy. Every time I read his list of leans I just laugh >.>

 

One thing really sticks out about Lazy's leans...

 

 

Ok. First. I play from my phone during the week so quoting and reading is not easy. Also I am lazy (not just my name) so I CBF going back to do those massive posts claiming every word someone said is bad and good. If you dont like it, kill me and I dont need to play. You lose a townie and put scumballs onestep clloser to winning (tigerblood).

 

Nyn. In regards to the mammoth thing you posting stating a lot of jokes and not much else. Well, if you look at my playstyle in other games (need to go back about 8 years to a diff forum) then that is how I play. Also, in other areas on DM, I am a jokester and cant take life seriously. So be it. 

 

Also, I have a list of who I think and dont think is whatever, but since I dont play mafia here the only people I can remember playing against are Verbal and dice. So my list will probably be more of a random shot in the dark and based on truly random useless sh*t because why not. I dont know how anyone else in the game plays so its all fair in love and war.

 

Cory & Des - You two are goats (not in the way its used here). More in the terms you keep butting heads and look funny. Love it. I will assume town because I want to see you guys keep poking at each other. So either make up or keep fighting. Its funny either way :)

 

 

RTE - Town. He is a Habs fan. We stick together. Habs for life.

 

BFG, AJ, Thane - You are archers. I am cav (from the Band). The rivalry states that you must be scum till proven innocent. And I couldnt stand an archer getting the best of me :) So Null/Scum

AJ - Voted for Verb for no real reason around page 42 (yay 42). What was that about. I know I have a vote on Verb. But that was a truly verbal vote for me. I dont trust verb. He is town but I wanted to see if someone would jump on the bandwagon or defend him. 

 

Dice - I am still unsure. I love the guy but think he might be solo/scum. 

 

Pral, Tina, & Leelou - Never played with you before. We can share our toys and have a playdate if you want :) Null

Clov - What is with this Fishdyx thing? Null

 

Verb - He is my mentor and overlord. All bow to the mighty verbal. Just watch out if he starts posting poetry. Town

Nyn - Original thoughts were you were bouncy and fun. Still think that. But maybe a bit thorny underneath too. Rawr. Town/Null/Solo temptress?

 

Vos - I got nothing. 

 

Is that good enough? Can I get back to the jokes. P.s. wont be around till Monday as I am going ice skating and movies tomorrow. Soz but RL is more important.

 

 

What does FoS mean? I see these acronyms and just go huh?