[Advanced/Experimental] No Roles Disney Game - Game Over - Town Wins!

Kaylee · May 13, 2014

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[v]Krak[/v]

I'm not finding Len overly scummy right now. Wombat and Krak are sticking out a bit more to me on my initial read. Krak for his weird reasoning on Lenlo and Wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwombat seems to be trying to figure out if the pasta is done yet by flinging it against the wall to see if it will stick.

I actually agree with Leelou about Krak, not so much about Wombat.

I just went back and looked at Krak's posts.

He joke votes Lenlo, picks a minor point in wording to FoS him, fluff posts a bit, and then he defends his decision of why he voted Lenlo, along with nudging Alanna a bit.

Not liking the tone in the last post and sounds a bit of fencesitting

[v]krak[/v]

You might be onto something with Krak. Definately want to hear more from him.

Tyler Glembo · May 13, 2014

Womby - I'm liking his posting and thought processes right now, town lean.

Len - Gut says town. His posting this game has been pretty up there, and making sense, and y'know, not entirely fluff!

Amega - I don't recall seeing much of him recently.

Mish - Null. Posting more than normal, but that could go either way. Claim of Stitch, so she's cutest town if town.

Vos - Null to scum, after those shenanigans

Darthe - Don't like the thread of a CFD >.< But you've been posting lots, and your early claim didn't seem forced, though as many people say, with so many characters that in itself isn't that big a thing.

I was playing WoW. Dont' hateeeee

Hmm so you like Womby's thought process, Len and Mish are posting, Len's making sense....Not saying much as Darthe pointed out.

@Hally - What thought process specifically that Womby posited did you like?

Tyler Glembo · May 13, 2014

I'm Mrs. Potts.

nervositee · May 13, 2014

I'm liking Pral as town. And Leelou.

I wanna see more gameplay from Mish, but I don't see her gameplay so far as scummy, so null leaning town, together with Verb.

Iffy feeling from Amega, but awaiting more gameplay before I take a stand here.

[vote]Lenlo[/vote]

for now.

nervositee · May 13, 2014

[v]Lenlo[/v]

d'oh.

Tyler Glembo · May 13, 2014

A gif representation of us playing mafia. Darthe, you can be dude #2.

Tyler Glembo · May 13, 2014

Lenlo train has left the building. Who is going to be our counter-train for the day?

nervositee · May 13, 2014

Also, why are no-one talking about Lenlo being so jumping-up-and-down frustrated at Mish being coy, but not bothering with Wombats fake/scum-claim!?

Tyler Glembo · May 13, 2014

Also, why are no-one talking about Lenlo being so jumping-up-and-down frustrated at Mish being coy, but not bothering with Wombats fake/scum-claim!?

Still doing my initial read and I haven't gotten there yet. I'll look for it.

Alanna · May 13, 2014

I'm going to clarify one more time, and then I'm done with this -

Damn you, Ewok, I was going to have that vote count! :P

I don't get why you would link Len to some of the inactives here, it just seems like an arbitrary reason to connect people to me.
Apparently I didn't state this well; you're the second person to misunderstand my intent here, AJ. I don't actually think they're on a scum team together; it was meant to be a bit of a joke. If I were on a scum team with Lenlo, I would have advised him to let go of all the character claim talk, so I was wondering, if he is scum, why someone on his team wouldn't have done that. The possible explanation would be that his teammates were all people who hadn't been around the past couple days.

That is not a good reasoning at all. A lot of time, from my experience as scum, people generally let everyone in their flow. I have rarely seen advice against actions by a teammate, unless the person is really new. Lenlo stopping the talk all of a sudden is also not going to look legitimate at all. Assuming that his teammates are inactive because he has not changed his talk is really a poor reasoning.

Bold is mine. Pral, I did make this assumption at all. As I said above, the statement - that maybe he had inactive teammates - was tongue-in-cheek. I am a little curious now that you apparently ignored where I said it was a joke, because looking at it now, it seems pretty clear to me.

nervositee · May 13, 2014

Unoffical Vote count:
Lenlo (4) - Krak, Kaylee, Mish, Vos

Darthe (1) - TG
Mish (1) - Lenlo
Vos (1) - Darthe
Krak (2) Leelou, Pralaya
Amega (1): Womby

Lia (1): AJ

Not voting - Alanna, Hallia, Amega, Lia, Verb,

Deadline Wednesday 8PM MST/11PM EDT

Tyler Glembo · May 13, 2014

I'm going to clarify one more time, and then I'm done with this -

Damn you, Ewok, I was going to have that vote count! :P

I don't get why you would link Len to some of the inactives here, it just seems like an arbitrary reason to connect people to me.
Apparently I didn't state this well; you're the second person to misunderstand my intent here, AJ. I don't actually think they're on a scum team together; it was meant to be a bit of a joke. If I were on a scum team with Lenlo, I would have advised him to let go of all the character claim talk, so I was wondering, if he is scum, why someone on his team wouldn't have done that. The possible explanation would be that his teammates were all people who hadn't been around the past couple days.

That is not a good reasoning at all. A lot of time, from my experience as scum, people generally let everyone in their flow. I have rarely seen advice against actions by a teammate, unless the person is really new. Lenlo stopping the talk all of a sudden is also not going to look legitimate at all. Assuming that his teammates are inactive because he has not changed his talk is really a poor reasoning.

Bold is mine. Pral, I did make this assumption at all. As I said above, the statement - that maybe he had inactive teammates - was tongue-in-cheek. I am a little curious now that you apparently ignored where I said it was a joke, because looking at it now, it seems pretty clear to me.

For my sake, can you post the original "joke"?

Tyler Glembo · May 13, 2014

Never mind, found it. I don't like you claiming it was a joke and then defending the rationale behind the joke/trying to explain it. If it was a joke then why did you defend the logic after the fact?

Tyler Glembo · May 13, 2014

For you and your jokes, Alanna,

Verbal32 · May 13, 2014

Also, why are no-one talking about Lenlo being so jumping-up-and-down frustrated at Mish being coy, but not bothering with Wombats fake/scum-claim!?

What? Did I miss something?

Leelou · May 13, 2014

Also, why are no-one talking about Lenlo being so jumping-up-and-down frustrated at Mish being coy, but not bothering with Wombats fake/scum-claim!?

What? Did I miss something?

This definitely needs an answer.

WWWwombat · May 13, 2014

Len part 2:

Here he tells Pral he should catch and and reiterates that him and Womby agree that character claims are null and get to gameplay. Now he's back to talking about claims. He says " if we lock people into a claim then they cant BS anything later on. Force them into it now while people are still establishing their town/scumminess." (So back to character talk and how it's important. What happened to making it about gameplay and characters being null?) More secondary character talk.

This quote is partly in response to Womby questioning his back and forth on character talk and partly to Mish about her claim. (I'm going to respond to several things so I'll put each point on a bullet to make it easier to follow. The part of Len's post I'm talking about will be in quotation marks).

"1) Yes I believe and have always believed this will be a game of supporting characters." (Only supporting characters? Mish claimed a main one. She may not be the only one with a main character. Again what happened to looking at gameplay and focusing on that?)

"3) I didn't push Mish for hinting a main Character" (I just find this funny with his first point in the same quote. May be true, but it's still odd.)

"I never said if you were a "bad guy" that I wanted to know, I said I wanted to know because your hinting is stupid." (Not true. In my part 1 I pointed out his exact wording where he did in fact say...oh I'll copy it here: "If its a main character like Wombys, a bad main character, than I want to know." Yeah you did Len, I just quoted and bolded it for you.)

Summary: Len goes back and forth on his views about character claiming. (from the time he says he's interested to telling Womby he's not to back to being interested and pushing it.) Alanna: that's why I singled him out on it against the others pushing it. He also contradicts himself above. (Tells Mish he wants to know if she's a main character, esp a bad one. Then when she brings it up he says he didn't say that.) I know Womby asked him about his back and forth and he said he only said he wanted to focus on gameplay and that character claims are null because otherwise Wombat wouldn't leave him alone, or something like that, but then why also say it to Pral? Inconsistent maybe is a better word than back and forth. I'm comfortable leaving my vote here.

This is really bad. You are casing Len on weak semantic grounds imo. Who cares exactly how Len defines the difference between main and secondary? Gaston may not be a title character, but he's pretty important in his movie. This is the kid of case scum makes to drive home a mislynch.

WWWwombat · May 13, 2014

vote Darthe

Spamming to gain powers for his scum team.

Enlighten me.

I've only started reading backwards but I dislike your secret plan.

I think his plan is to buy a bunch of poison apples and then Darthe random.

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[v]Krak[/v]

I'm not finding Len overly scummy right now. Wombat and Krak are sticking out a bit more to me on my initial read. Krak for his weird reasoning on Lenlo and Wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwombat seems to be trying to figure out if the pasta is done yet by flinging it against the wall to see if it will stick.

I actually agree with Leelou about Krak, not so much about Wombat.

I just went back and looked at Krak's posts.

He joke votes Lenlo, picks a minor point in wording to FoS him, fluff posts a bit, and then he defends his decision of why he voted Lenlo, along with nudging Alanna a bit.

Not liking the tone in the last post and sounds a bit of fencesitting

[v]krak[/v]

You might be onto something with Krak. Definately want to hear more from him.

EWWWW

WWWwombat · May 13, 2014

Also, why are no-one talking about Lenlo being so jumping-up-and-down frustrated at Mish being coy, but not bothering with Wombats fake/scum-claim!?

Butthurt detected.

Leelou · May 13, 2014

Someone alert Vos, we have a deadline!

I'm alert!

Slightly put off by many inactives, and some actives who are posting but not standing out.

Oh, and someone stop Verb from claiming all the VCs, he'll be a one-man power-army soon, which can be good or bad :P

Darthe is reading more and more like town, while I think Len is reading more and more like scum.

Having a hard time reading Wombat, at this point he is still overplaying his case on me pretty nastily, yet not voting me. And he seems to work hard influencing others to join him (plus voting). Yet I'm struggling to see Wombat claim scum, then drive home a mislynch this hardcore on D1 if he is mafia. I'm starting to think we might have opposing tones rather than alignment. Still suspicious but not too convinced at this point.

[unvote]

For now.

The only thing that really bugged me about Vos was how he kept getting back in with the character discussion while not wanting to discuss it. Wouldn't peg him as scum for that though, just something to watch.

I don't like how so much focus was put on claims. It was just a big distraction. I want to take a look at the bigger players in it. Also, Lia, bad catch up posts. I totally agree with Darthe *feels dirty*. You could have at least posted some thoughts on players. You've moved to my null with a scum vibe list.

What about his "case" on me or the above post?

Both are kinda crap, but the "case" was from early D1. His play around the claims was bugging me the most. I don't like a few of his recent posts, especially the one involving Wombat's claim, so he's moving more towards the scum pile for me right now.

WWWwombat · May 13, 2014

[unvote]

[v]Vos[/v]

Also WTL Kaylee

WWWwombat · May 13, 2014

Unoffical Vote count:
Lenlo (4) - Krak, Kaylee, Mish, Vos

Darthe (1) - TG
Mish (1) - Lenlo
Vos (2) - Darthe, Womby
Krak (2) Leelou, Pralaya

Lia (1): AJ

Not voting - Alanna, Hallia, Amega, Lia, Verb,

Deadline Wednesday 8PM MST/11PM EDT

WWWwombat · May 13, 2014

1. Darthe - Town read

2. Amega - scum lean

3. Alanna - town lean

4. Vos - scum read

5. Kaylee - scum read

6. TGlems - null

7. Lenlo - mixed

8. Pralaya - town lean

9. Hallia - town read

10. Mish - null

11. AJ - null

12. Lia - null

13. Wombat - LOCK CLEAR

14. Krak - null

15. Verb - null

16. Leelou - town lean

Verbal32 · May 13, 2014

Also, why are no-one talking about Lenlo being so jumping-up-and-down frustrated at Mish being coy, but not bothering with Wombats fake/scum-claim!?

Butthurt detected.

I'm more concerned with what he means by your "fake/scum claim".

1. Darthe - Town read

2. Amega - scum lean

3. Alanna - town lean

4. Vos - scum read

5. Kaylee - scum read

6. TGlems - null

7. Lenlo - mixed

8. Pralaya - town lean

9. Hallia - town read

10. Mish - null

11. AJ - null

12. Lia - null

13. Wombat - LOCK CLEAR

14. Krak - null

15. Verb - null

16. Leelou - town lean

How did I move down to null from the town-lean pile you had me in yesterday?

michellem · May 13, 2014

Ok I am completly unable to concentrate today so reread will have to wait or be skipped.

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