[Advanced] House MD Mafia - Mafia Victory!

[Songstress]

Also, this:

 

[dicetosser1]

And that's how you DONT play as town. I know I have been far from the most active player, but at least I tried. Rags just disappearing, Dice not even bothering to fight his lynch, Peace not contributing on LyLo to make it way too easy for mafia to get a lynch on him.

 

And I told you Hallia was mafia. And Turin. It's so nice when people listen

 

I argued. I even CLAIMED and tried sending convo back on Hallia with like 18 hrs to go! people didnt listen and kept piling on. by the time i got to where i lynched myself i think there was only a few hrs left. I was also frustrated cause i was getting lynched AGAIN for a crap excuse for a reason.

 

Well at least i had 2 mafia pegged and ST at that

 

Nice game of Mod!

[WWWwombat]

Also, this:

 

 

Should probably make that my new avi after TG's game.

[hazelkrs1]

Ugh, i hate the new lingo. Its stupid.

 

Mish is LOCK CLEAR

 

 

 

I was hoping to draw the nk when I claimed really.

 

 

Turin, you might as well have writteb MAFIA on your forehead with how quiet you were in this game.

 

Actually it started out that I got waaaay behind due to work and since I was only catching light heat about it and didn't have the time to get back into the game and really work I just let it go as long as I could to keep the NA and let Tommy carry it. I was fully set to be bussed when needed but fortunately again for us it never got to that.

 

Not my best performance by a long shot. Tommy kept the town going in circles. I blame Despo because he lets Tommy run wild and only looks at him later. Killing Des left Tommy freer at end game. I was pushing at Tommy figuring that my eventual lynch once I got behind would help him look good enough to get to the end.  

 

Tommy is a worthy adversary. He's good at looking town so I prefer to have more to sink him with when I do start to fully go at him. I was already spreading seeds of distrust on him tho.

 

In fact my major regret this game is that I was too open with my actual reads. I had seen others criticizing me for my gambits and playing reads close to the chest and stuff so I mixed it up and didn't do that as much this game... and it ended up blowing up in my face and getting me NK'ed early. C'est la vie

 

Mish, your role was probably the most important to giving town a good chance to win. We got the LD to clear our GT N1. Despo blocks hurt town as much as helped it since it prevented Darthe from seeing a switch action. That would have made the game much different I think. The Doc fortunately for mafia never did guess right on the times we didn't switch and kill. BFG using the cop view nailed Wombat. Without that she very well might have gone down first in that exchange. Which would have meant you got killed the night BFG died unless TG revealed earlier. 

 

As I said We were prettty fortunate on how the NAs played out. There was some thought about them so maybe we made some of our own luck. 

 

 

I like being mafia just as much as town. I was worried that I didn't have much time to devote to the game as I joined basically so it could get going. I would have rather been town this game but that is entirely due to available time.

 

 

Great game tho Tress and Key. very fun. I really wish I would have had more time to give it. 

 

 

 

That was some very fortunate NA happenings, well from a mafia POV. 

 

I was so glad we decided to kill Darthe before BFG. Plus getting the gift confirmed Mish had more to give than she claimed. I wish I would have gotten a scalpel tho. that would have been hilarious.

 

We lucked out a bit on Despo blocking Darthe, but we also made quite a bit of our own luck.  We rolefished and outed power roles very well, as well as predicting town actions and votes.

 

 

Uhhhh what? Where are both of you getting that I blocked Darthe? I never did so...

 

I reaction tested him with the vig claim. He passed. I ACTUALLY roleblocked Turin N1. Preventing his BD ability.

 

The next day I reaction tested Turin. HE FAILED MISERABLY. Then I kept acting like I would kill him... and yall kill me and no one ever really focuses on Turin after that. SMH @ WILlage.

 

I never blocked Darthe.

[hazelkrs1]

I also could have been the hero for town this game

 

I came SOOOOOO close to blocking Wombat instead the night that I died, which would have saved me. I decided to block Tommy instead cause I figured the mafia would think he was less likely to get targeted so would submit the NA- REAL gutsy move on yalls part letting Wombat submit the NK like that.

 

In normal circumstances, fake claiming Cop as scum is a good way to get RB'ed, because then the town RB'er can test the claim without the real cop (if there is one) CC'ing. I actually took this into account and figured it would be too obvious of a move to RB Wombat and that if he was scum he'd likely claim getting RB'ed either way and that I should try and prevent the NK and see if Wombat was actually telling the truth and if a scum RB'er existed.

 

And Tress can back up btw that I had the entire scum team pegged. Had I lived I would have buried Tommy, Turin, and Wombat, and Hallia likely would have followed soon after. Oh well /shrug

 

GG mafs.

[hazelkrs1]

But yeah, never blocked Darthe. Dunno where yall got that from. Also didn't target Turin the night I died, yall were too easy to wifom lol.

 

IF ONLY I HAD BLOCKED WOMBY LIKE I WAS SOOO CLOSE TO DOING ARGLEBARGLE

 

[csarmi]

Hello,

 

So apparently I got a lot of flak for replacing out of the game.

 

Some of you just didn't seem to understand the reason (which is good, as the point was to make sure to affect the game as minimally as possible). But I got called out on these all over the boards (for which I couldn't even answer as you don't talk about ongoing games), and also in the game thread.

 

That I would emo-quit and all.

 

Nothing could be further from the truth. There was nothing emotional about my quit, it was a logical decision. Under the circumstances there was no other way the two games (House and the Reboot game) could go on and function normally.

 

I suppose it is partially my fault. In some of the recent games I did actions that could look similar to the casual observer (different sort of claims).

 

What happened in these games is TG's fault, however and I'm pretty sure he agrees with it - TG, please let me know if you don't or if you see some things in other ways. I don't want to attack TG in any way with this btw, after he made his mistake, he handled the situation very well, he acted really in an exemplary way. I take this oppurtunity to thank him for it again.

 

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So what happened?

 

TG has put me into an impossible situation where I couldn't play on and had to sub out from both games. He referenced my meta using three (or four) ONGOING games. Worse, he did that at the VERY same time in TWO games (in the other two games I was dead already, the Thrawn one and the Hally game).

 

These two games (House and Reboot) had quite a few players in common. I also have to add here that we have just had a long argument about claims in the dead thread of the (still ongoing) Once upon a Hally game.

 

There was no way I could play on and keep those two games separate (at the minimum, it was impossible to play on and keep my interactions with TG separate). A case of way too much information.

 

There was no way I could react to those questions and meta stuff without directly giving info into the other game (at the very least, to directly give info to TG). Worse, I knew that he was misrepping me badly and that he did that in two games at once meant that I already had TMI to his alignment - he was going to be in scum in at least one of those else it was going to be pointless).

 

So. I did the only possible thing under the circumstances - subbed out of both games. It doesn't solve the situation entirely, but at least my replacement won't know my motivations and can react normally.

 

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TL;DR - I didn't emo-quit, I made a perfectly cold-spirited decission, the only possible one. It did bug me badly afterwards that people take this as an emo-quit (in both games, actually). I never emo-quit games. Never. Don't even emo anymore.

 

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Really short TL;DR version (and the reason there was no way it was ever going to be resolved) - TG put me into a situation where I could be sure that he was scum in AT LEAST one of those games going. That's too much information. Can't play on just because of that already.

 

Talked to both mods but there was no saving. The mods in both games did their best by the way, I also take this oppurtunity to thank them for it. To add to the interconnection, one of the mods was actually playing in one of the going ongoing game at that point.

 

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Thanks for listening. If some of you would like to discuss this further or in detail, you may do this here.

 

Csarmi

[WWWwombat]

But yeah, never blocked Darthe. Dunno where yall got that from. Also didn't target Turin the night I died, yall were too easy to wifom lol.

 

IF ONLY I HAD BLOCKED WOMBY LIKE I WAS SOOO CLOSE TO DOING ARGLEBARGLE

 

 

 

You blocked Turin N1 thereby preventing Darthe from seeing him bus driving as he didn't actually drive because he was blocked.  Sorry for misphrasing that.

[WWWwombat]

I also could have been the hero for town this game

 

I came SOOOOOO close to blocking Wombat instead the night that I died, which would have saved me. I decided to block Tommy instead cause I figured the mafia would think he was less likely to get targeted so would submit the NA- REAL gutsy move on yalls part letting Wombat submit the NK like that.

 

In normal circumstances, fake claiming Cop as scum is a good way to get RB'ed, because then the town RB'er can test the claim without the real cop (if there is one) CC'ing. I actually took this into account and figured it would be too obvious of a move to RB Wombat and that if he was scum he'd likely claim getting RB'ed either way and that I should try and prevent the NK and see if Wombat was actually telling the truth and if a scum RB'er existed.

 

And Tress can back up btw that I had the entire scum team pegged. Had I lived I would have buried Tommy, Turin, and Wombat, and Hallia likely would have followed soon after. Oh well /shrug

 

GG mafs.

 

 

Good thing we killed you then.  You've been on your game lately :)

 

And blocking any cop claim as town is super risky.  Blocking an uncc'd cop claim is grounds for lynch if it doesn't work out right.  That's part of why I submitted the kill.  Also, for trackers/watchers cuz we knew I was on borrowed time regardless.

[WWWwombat]

Also, Des, with me Tommy and Turin all on the same scum team, we kinda had to take the opportunity to troll you.

[WWWwombat]

Official Vote Count:

 

Darthe (3) - Despo, Kaylee, Peace

Despo (3) - Darthe. Turin, Wombat

TG (4) - Mish, Tommy, Leno, AJ

Lenlo (1) - TG

 

Not Voting (5) - Amega, Hallia, Dap, BFG, Pral

 

With 16 alive, it takes 9 to lynch.

 

No deadline has been set yet - but expect one soon.

 

 

 

CHOO CHOO ALL ABOARD THE TROLL EXPRESS!!

[WWWwombat]

Also, Turin's trolling timing was spot on early.

[hazelkrs1]

 

I also could have been the hero for town this game

 

I came SOOOOOO close to blocking Wombat instead the night that I died, which would have saved me. I decided to block Tommy instead cause I figured the mafia would think he was less likely to get targeted so would submit the NA- REAL gutsy move on yalls part letting Wombat submit the NK like that.

 

In normal circumstances, fake claiming Cop as scum is a good way to get RB'ed, because then the town RB'er can test the claim without the real cop (if there is one) CC'ing. I actually took this into account and figured it would be too obvious of a move to RB Wombat and that if he was scum he'd likely claim getting RB'ed either way and that I should try and prevent the NK and see if Wombat was actually telling the truth and if a scum RB'er existed.

 

And Tress can back up btw that I had the entire scum team pegged. Had I lived I would have buried Tommy, Turin, and Wombat, and Hallia likely would have followed soon after. Oh well /shrug

 

GG mafs.

 

 

Good thing we killed you then.  You've been on your game lately :)

 

And blocking any cop claim as town is super risky.  Blocking an uncc'd cop claim is grounds for lynch if it doesn't work out right.  That's part of why I submitted the kill.  Also, for trackers/watchers cuz we knew I was on borrowed time regardless.

 

 

Bold: Yeah it's a risk but I don't ever really worry about getting lynched in that scenario if a gambit doesn't work out. I think I'm usually able to show how my gambits are protown even if they fail. Thing is it was also worth possibly giving you another night to see if you would spew someone else as town (I kinda already knew Mish was town, so you didn't really give me anything there. Good choice).

 

Italics: Hehe thanks. It's nice to finally see you as scum recently lol. You had been town so many times it was hard to remember your scum meta. I doubt that knowledge will be of that much help to me next time, but still.

 

Also, Des, with me Tommy and Turin all on the same scum team, we kinda had to take the opportunity to troll you.

 

Yeah I figured. Ooooh which reminds me- I haven't read the scumchat yet!

 

 

 

Official Vote Count:

 

Darthe (3) - Despo, Kaylee, Peace

Despo (3) - Darthe. Turin, Wombat

TG (4) - Mish, Tommy, Leno, AJ

Lenlo (1) - TG

 

Not Voting (5) - Amega, Hallia, Dap, BFG, Pral

 

With 16 alive, it takes 9 to lynch.

 

No deadline has been set yet - but expect one soon.

 

 

 

CHOO CHOO ALL ABOARD THE TROLL EXPRESS!!

 

 

LAWLZ!

 

[hazelkrs1]

 

But yeah, never blocked Darthe. Dunno where yall got that from. Also didn't target Turin the night I died, yall were too easy to wifom lol.

 

IF ONLY I HAD BLOCKED WOMBY LIKE I WAS SOOO CLOSE TO DOING ARGLEBARGLE

 

 

 

You blocked Turin N1 thereby preventing Darthe from seeing him bus driving as he didn't actually drive because he was blocked.  Sorry for misphrasing that.

 

 

Forgot to respond to this-

 

Not to talk smack, but honestly Darthe learning that information might not have helped town. He's been sort of scatterbrained about checking NA's and stuff lately across the board, I could see him dropping the ball there lol. (Sowwy Darthe ). 

 

Plus you COULD wifom it anyways. Bus Drivers can be town too, in fact the most famous recent example of a BD was Pray in you and Darthe's Epic 3 in 1 game.

[keyholder21]

Thank you everyone for a great game! It was a blast to mod :).

 

[hazelkrs1]

It twerse a VURRRRY good game miss mods Key and Tress. Thank you so much for hosting it for us!

 

[Tommyrod]

I don't know how we survived to the end with all of the crazy abilities that Mish was pumping out, PLUS an LD, PLUS a Doc? I'm scared just thinking about it. We basically couldn't have gotten luckier with the ability usage. I don't think this was a winnable game for the mafia with an active and interested town.

[michellem]

Well I sent an item to Des the night he died, and then one of the items I sent to BFG apparantly ended up with Turin. So it was only one of them that actually had any use.

 

 

 

Thank you Key and Tress It was a lovely game and no-one could have done it as well as you have! *snuggles*

[Tommyrod]

Yes, thanks for the mod.

[Songstress]

Totally fun to help set up and mod, and very fun to watch it play out

 

You all had us on the edge of our seats.

[WWWwombat]

I don't know how we survived to the end with all of the crazy abilities that Mish was pumping out, PLUS an LD, PLUS a Doc? I'm scared just thinking about it. We basically couldn't have gotten luckier with the ability usage. I don't think this was a winnable game for the mafia with an active and interested town.

 

Because GOAT

[keyholder21]

I don't know how we survived to the end with all of the crazy abilities that Mish was pumping out, PLUS an LD, PLUS a Doc? I'm scared just thinking about it. We basically couldn't have gotten luckier with the ability usage. I don't think this was a winnable game for the mafia with an active and interested town.

 

 

We had it checked for balance. 

[keyholder21]

Totally fun to help set up and mod, and very fun to watch it play out

 

You all had us on the edge of our seats.

 

^ this :).

[Tommyrod]

 

I don't know how we survived to the end with all of the crazy abilities that Mish was pumping out, PLUS an LD, PLUS a Doc? I'm scared just thinking about it. We basically couldn't have gotten luckier with the ability usage. I don't think this was a winnable game for the mafia with an active and interested town.

 

 

We had it checked for balance.

 

I'm gonna PM mods before I join games and ask them to not include me if there's a LD, it's the most broken role in the entire mafia universe. (This is not a criticism of you or this game, just that role.)

[WWWwombat]

 

 

I don't know how we survived to the end with all of the crazy abilities that Mish was pumping out, PLUS an LD, PLUS a Doc? I'm scared just thinking about it. We basically couldn't have gotten luckier with the ability usage. I don't think this was a winnable game for the mafia with an active and interested town.

 

 

We had it checked for balance.

 

I'm gonna PM mods before I join games and ask them to not include me if there's a LD, it's the most broken role in the entire mafia universe. (This is not a criticism of you or this game, just that role.)

 

 

 

Then no one would be able to fake LD in a game with you.  I hate LD too, but mainly on principle because mafia is a game of deception.