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WWWwombat · March 3, 2014

vote Dap.

Don't really see a decent case on Dap, but no one wants random

This vote-hedge is gross btw.

Darthe · March 3, 2014

^Inherent point (you can't be "spinning" something if it is true)

WWWwombat · March 3, 2014

You're spinning it bro. Hallia and Des were both close to Dap for a while. Hallia was only one vote behind Dap when BFG voted Dap.

WWWwombat · March 3, 2014

And by Des, I mean me

WWWwombat · March 3, 2014

Official Vote Count:

Wombat (1) - Tommy

Mish (1) - peace

Hallia (1) - TG

Dap (2) - Mish, Rags

Not voting (9) - Turin, Despo, Hallia, Darthe, Dice, Wombat, Dap, BFG, Lenlo

With 14 alive it takes 8 to lynch.

Deadline: Monday, March 3 @ 8PM CST - Countdown link

Official Vote Count:

Wombat (1) - Tommy

Mish (1) - peace

Hallia (2) - TG, Mish

Dap (2) - Rags, Wombat

Not voting (8) - Turin, Despo, Hallia, Darthe, Dice, Dap, BFG, Lenlo

With 14 alive it takes 8 to lynch.

Deadline: Monday, March 3 @ 8PM CST - Countdown link

Official Vote Count:

Wombat (2) - Tommy, Despo

Hallia (2) - TG, Mish

Dap (3) - Rags, Wombat, Peace

Not voting (7) - Turin, Hallia, Darthe, Dice, Dap, BFG, Lenlo

With 14 alive it takes 8 to lynch.

Deadline: Monday, March 3 @ 8PM CST - Countdown link

Official Vote Count:

Wombat (1) - Tommy

Hallia (2) - TG, Mish

Dap (3) - Rags, Wombat, Peace

Dice (1) - BFG

Lenlo (1) - Despo

Not voting (7) - Turin, Hallia, Darthe, Dice, Dap, Lenlo

With 14 alive it takes 8 to lynch.

Deadline: Monday, March 3 @ 8PM CST - Countdown link

DEADLINE IS IN JUST OVER 9-1/2 HOURS

Official Vote Count:

Wombat (1) - Tommy

Hallia (2) - TG, Mish

Dap (4) - Rags, Wombat, Peace, BFG

Lenlo (1) - Despo

Not voting (7) - Turin, Hallia, Darthe, Dice, Dap, Lenlo

With 14 alive it takes 8 to lynch.

Deadline: Monday, March 3 @ 8PM CST - Countdown link

DEADLINE IS IN JUST under 3 HOURS

Darthe · March 3, 2014

Tbh I didn't remember those trains but I could argue the point that none of them took off. Then again neither has Dap's save the last second Mish and Hally votes.

WWWwombat · March 3, 2014

Also, Des and Tommy camping votes doesn't help move the game along. Although, I guess Tommy's now leading a train -_-

hazelkrs1 · March 4, 2014

Alright first of all Unvote, Vote Wombat. More thoughts to follow. But Wombat's nudge on Dap a bit ago was super obviously scummy.

TheRagnarok · March 4, 2014

Dap is the only legit train... So he is town then. Okay, moving on.

Dap train is Rag, Womby, Peace, BFG, Mish, Hally.

On this train I least like Mish, Hally then Womby in that order.

Hally and Mish are almost certainly not on the same time. Let's attempt to vote Wombat.

Unvote Vote Wombat

Considering how quiet things were over the weekend and how Dap looks to be the majority with deadline coming up...if Dap shows as scum, I wanna look at the peoople who hopped on later.

michellem · March 4, 2014

Dap isn't mafia. Not with no countertrain and no build on his train. Not when the main reason he is being voted is because he is lackadaisical and hasn't agreed with the popular opinion a few times today.

Mind pointing out the other big train today if I am spinning this?

I couldn't agree more. I moved my vote to him to see what happened, and look what did; boom, Hallia votes him having to make sure everyone knows it's only for conslidation, and makes absolutley no mention of my previous case or vote on her.

That is absolutley where I want to lynch today. How many are here now? Who's willing to vote Hallia?

michellem · March 4, 2014

unvote vote Hallia

michellem · March 4, 2014

We got one hour, 45 minutes.

hazelkrs1 · March 4, 2014

@Des, intersted in your opinion on Hallia.

Didn't have much of a strong read on her, but tbh I don't worry too much about that early on. She's fairly easy to catch as scum down the road, through VC analysis or after other scum flips or something (she pretty much never responds to or talks directly to teammates ITT, and won't openly agree with them but will often vote with them). There is something I found just now tho.

Lenlo's #109 is really bad. He first says the thing between me and Salami was amusing, then +1's Mish's rage post about us fighting, even tho he again implies that the situation amused him. I could def see scum being amused with some town-on-town violence. Tbh, this makes a Lenlo/Mish scum pairing look less likely tho.

It amused me cause it was such a silly argument to me. Im sorry but when people fight about silly things I get amused.

The point is you contradicted yourself. You can't +1 a post bitching about our interaction while also saying how much it amused you. That's total crap.

Des theres no need for me to distance myself from the NK.

I simply posted my thought at the time. It seemed to me that there had been a bit of discussion about AJ and I wanted to point out it could be a setup before town went off half cocked.

AJ never really had that much discussion about him. Salami did, but that was before AJ replaced in. AJ was like #7 in the amount of discussion revolving around him, if that. I don't buy it.

Des Can you explain how you went from...

Alright giving this a go. Not gonna spoiler it since it's smaller than my multiquote walls.

Dap's first wot of the game. Initially didn't have much problem with it, and then just now I was thinking there might be a ping for saying the Pray/Salami thing looked contrived considering both have already flipped town. But on THIRD thought, this kinda makes it less likely that Dap would be scum. Why NK someone you've already laid the foundation for a future lynch on? And why NK AJ when you had earlier described an interaction they had with a flipped townie as being contrived, when this could come back and bite you in the ass? Him buddying me doesn't stand out at all to me btw, we both buddy eachother a lot in mafia games.

Back with more in a bit, hopefully I'll be able to finish this tonight. This method takes a lot longer.

Dap is less likely to be scum to...

And these two posts just reaffirmed my scumread on Lenlo. Bolded in first quote shows Lenlo LITERALLY didn't even look out for the post or anything, because it WAS edited, not "deleted in it's entirety". Had he actually been following up on something he might have maybe actually tried LOOKING for the post to see what others might have been talking about (obv you can't find a post that isn't there, but using context you could at least see where he might have posted then deleted it). Lenlo was just parroting what others said about the situation without actually looking into the matter himself.

Bold in second quote is gross- Lenlo had no other votes on him at the time. How was TG going for an easy target? Again, I think Lenlo was just parroting what he heard others saying to try and blend in.

Underlined in second post tho is revolting. Lenlo trying to scurry off instead of getting caught in a protracted argument. Blatant attempt at trying to fade back into the shadows.

Screw it. My Wombat read is slightly muddled with Dap looking slightly worse, my Darthe read is back to scum but eh, and I've flipped on Mish a bit as well.

Lenlo hasn't looked any cleaner to me at all on reread so far. Time for a fire drill!

Unvote, Vote Lenlo.

Dap looks slightly worse.

I think I had addressed this somewhat before, I might not have tho. Pray flipping town made me more suspect of Dap than I was before, since I had/have TG as a town read, so Dap nudging Pray while voting TG in the guise of competing trains looked more suspect to me. Town!Dap isn't afraid to go against popular opinion and say both trains don't look good to him and vote elsewhere. He could have legitimately thought Pray looked scummy, I and I know other townies did, but it could have easily been scum trying to play up the town on town violence.

Yeah, and Dap hasn't really posted anything of consequence since he started getting votes.

This was the nudge I was talking about. Disgusting. Dap was contributing at the same levels before he ever got any votes, and his activity is usually pretty wavery due to his work schedule.

vote Dap.

Don't really see a decent case on Dap, but no one wants random

Not good that Hallia wasn't voting before this, then escapes responsibility again somewhat with the consolidation excuse after a couple of other people pile on Dap. Were we to lynch Dap and him flip town, she'd look a lot worse for this vote imo (mostly due to the fact that she had held her vote back for so long without ever trying to figure out where a good place for it might be, looks like scum waiting till they can jump on a train for consolidation)

Dap isn't mafia. Not with no countertrain and no build on his train. Not when the main reason he is being voted is because he is lackadaisical and hasn't agreed with the popular opinion a few times today.

Mind pointing out the other big train today if I am spinning this?

Darthe is right here, and this makes me feel a bit better about him (altho he could just be defending a teammate /shrug). No trains or countertrains were really developing at all today, the weekend was particularly awful this time on voting activity. But the first train that DOES start to develop is going to almost assuredly be town, since scum will gladly hop on in the guise of consolidation.

You're spinning it bro. Hallia and Des were both close to Dap for a while. Hallia was only one vote behind Dap when BFG voted Dap.

Lol trying to act like there were all these developed trains is just ridiculous. You're flailing now Scumbat, not a good look for you.

Also, Des and Tommy camping votes doesn't help move the game along. Although, I guess Tommy's now leading a train -_-

Camping my vote? Lol I literally just moved it off of you last night and urged a CFD on Lenlo. I was off for most of the day phase so didn't have a lot of time to reread and stuff. I never parked my vote as you say.

hazelkrs1 · March 4, 2014

Dap isn't mafia. Not with no countertrain and no build on his train. Not when the main reason he is being voted is because he is lackadaisical and hasn't agreed with the popular opinion a few times today.

Mind pointing out the other big train today if I am spinning this?

I couldn't agree more. I moved my vote to him to see what happened, and look what did; boom, Hallia votes him having to make sure everyone knows it's only for conslidation, and makes absolutley no mention of my previous case or vote on her.

That is absolutley where I want to lynch today. How many are here now? Who's willing to vote Hallia?

I could go along with a Hallia CFD, Scumbat is closer tho. What you think about him nudging the Dap train like that?

Yeah, and Dap hasn't really posted anything of consequence since he started getting votes

I thought this was an incrediscummy nudge. What you think?

Scumbat, Lenlo, Hallia would all be superb lynch options today imo.

keyholder21 · March 4, 2014

Official Vote Count:

Wombat (3) - Tommy, darthe, des
Hallia (2) - TG, Mish
Dap (5) - Rags, Wombat, Peace, BFG, hallia

Not voting (4) - Turin, Dice, Dap, Lenlo

With 14 alive it takes 8 to lynch.

Deadline: Monday, March 3 @ 8PM CST - Countdown link

DEADLINE IS IN 1.5 HOURS

Tyler Glembo · March 4, 2014

Be...cause I'm voting for him? That seems silly. You wouldn't vote someone you didn't think was mafia end of story. I have dodged nothing. If you have a point ask it instead of trying to paint me in a bad light.

Scum often vote those they think are town. I'd gain say it happens more often than not.

Nudge from Peace that Hally is scum without actually saying it.

Lol, what exactly did I not say?

Hally was saying that she, as town wouldn't do something like that. You respond by saying that "well it is something scum would do" but you never actually call Hally out for being scummy. Instead it is just...nudgy.

Forgotten to keep an eye on deadline. Crap. Ok, I'm willing to lynch Dap, Hallia and Lenlo today.

Looking at the train builds I'm more interested in Lenlo or Hallia than Dap at this point.

You're spinning it bro. Hallia and Des were both close to Dap for a while. Hallia was only one vote behind Dap when BFG voted Dap.

@Wombat - Your whole Doc joke? There was one person who responded. Hallia. What do you think of her jokey response?

Tyler Glembo · March 4, 2014

Also, I have to leave for dinner in 20 minutes, so I can't be here right at deadline.

hazelkrs1 · March 4, 2014

@TG: Pretty sure you're barking up the wrong tree on that thing with Peace. To me it's pretty clear he's calling her scum in that post, or implying it. I don't see it as nudging her as scummy without saying it at all.

And would you be open to moving your vote to Wombat? You say you're not as interested in a Dap lynch, well Wombat is the closest countertrain.

hazelkrs1 · March 4, 2014

Also, I have to leave for dinner in 20 minutes, so I can't be here right at deadline.

In that case vote Wombat dude. We need every vote if we're going to consolidate onto anyone other than Dap.

michellem · March 4, 2014

vote Dap.

Don't really see a decent case on Dap, but no one wants random

Not good that Hallia wasn't voting before this, then escapes responsibility again somewhat with the consolidation excuse after a couple of other people pile on Dap. Were we to lynch Dap and him flip town, she'd look a lot worse for this vote imo (mostly due to the fact that she had held her vote back for so long without ever trying to figure out where a good place for it might be, looks like scum waiting till they can jump on a train for consolidation)

Add in the fact that she more or less called me mfia early and the day and never voted, and she looks horrible.

Dap isn't mafia. Not with no countertrain and no build on his train. Not when the main reason he is being voted is because he is lackadaisical and hasn't agreed with the popular opinion a few times today.

Mind pointing out the other big train today if I am spinning this?

I couldn't agree more. I moved my vote to him to see what happened, and look what did; boom, Hallia votes him having to make sure everyone knows it's only for conslidation, and makes absolutley no mention of my previous case or vote on her.

That is absolutley where I want to lynch today. How many are here now? Who's willing to vote Hallia?

I could go along with a Hallia CFD, Scumbat is closer tho. What you think about him nudging the Dap train like that?

Yeah, and Dap hasn't really posted anything of consequence since he started getting votes

I thought this was an incrediscummy nudge. What you think?

Scumbat, Lenlo, Hallia would all be superb lynch options today imo.

I need to do a wombat ISO-read, and I can't do that just now; I've not managed to get a proper read on him. But yes, that comment was scummy.

How do you feel about Darthe now after his comments about Dap's train?

michellem · March 4, 2014

I'll be here to move to wombat for another hour. I really would prefer a Hallia lynch since I have a much clearer read on her but afraid we're not enough people.

Tyler Glembo · March 4, 2014

I'd considering switching my vote before I leave if there is 0 chance of a Hally lynch.

WWWwombat · March 4, 2014

Dap isn't mafia. Not with no countertrain and no build on his train. Not when the main reason he is being voted is because he is lackadaisical and hasn't agreed with the popular opinion a few times today.

Mind pointing out the other big train today if I am spinning this?

I couldn't agree more. I moved my vote to him to see what happened, and look what did; boom, Hallia votes him having to make sure everyone knows it's only for conslidation, and makes absolutley no mention of my previous case or vote on her.

That is absolutley where I want to lynch today. How many are here now? Who's willing to vote Hallia?

I could go along with a Hallia CFD, Scumbat is closer tho. What you think about him nudging the Dap train like that?

Yeah, and Dap hasn't really posted anything of consequence since he started getting votes

I thought this was an incrediscummy nudge. What you think?

Scumbat, Lenlo, Hallia would all be superb lynch options today imo.

So? I lobbied for a train I was voting on. Call it a nudge if you want. It's not scummy when I'd been lobbying the guy for a while and hadn't been disguising my motives.

hazelkrs1 · March 4, 2014

vote Dap.

Don't really see a decent case on Dap, but no one wants random

Not good that Hallia wasn't voting before this, then escapes responsibility again somewhat with the consolidation excuse after a couple of other people pile on Dap. Were we to lynch Dap and him flip town, she'd look a lot worse for this vote imo (mostly due to the fact that she had held her vote back for so long without ever trying to figure out where a good place for it might be, looks like scum waiting till they can jump on a train for consolidation)

Add in the fact that she more or less called me mfia early and the day and never voted, and she looks horrible.

Dap isn't mafia. Not with no countertrain and no build on his train. Not when the main reason he is being voted is because he is lackadaisical and hasn't agreed with the popular opinion a few times today.

Mind pointing out the other big train today if I am spinning this?

I couldn't agree more. I moved my vote to him to see what happened, and look what did; boom, Hallia votes him having to make sure everyone knows it's only for conslidation, and makes absolutley no mention of my previous case or vote on her.

That is absolutley where I want to lynch today. How many are here now? Who's willing to vote Hallia?

I could go along with a Hallia CFD, Scumbat is closer tho. What you think about him nudging the Dap train like that?

Yeah, and Dap hasn't really posted anything of consequence since he started getting votes

I thought this was an incrediscummy nudge. What you think?

Scumbat, Lenlo, Hallia would all be superb lynch options today imo.

I need to do a wombat ISO-read, and I can't do that just now; I've not managed to get a proper read on him. But yes, that comment was scummy.

How do you feel about Darthe now after his comments about Dap's train?

Darthe's comments re: Dap's train have made me feel better about him again. And I have seen him as incredibly scummy before and him flip town, so meh it might be confirmation bias on my part.

I'll be here to move to wombat for another hour. I really would prefer a Hallia lynch since I have a much clearer read on her but afraid we're not enough people.

I'd considering switching my vote before I leave if there is 0 chance of a Hally lynch.

I haven't seen anyone else on the Wombat train post in the last few minutes (Tommy or Darthe) and I kinda doubt they'll be switching. Wombat looks like a better chance of happening than a Hallia lynch at this point. I can always vig kill Hallia tonight tho, depending on what flip we see. Town!Wombat would be fighting this harder btw, Scum!Wombat is all too happy to just lay low till people finish consolidating on Dap.

WWWwombat · March 4, 2014

Also, "urging a CFD" is just a trendy way to say you're camping.

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