[Advanced] Star Wars Mafia - Game Over

[Leelou]

Vote Count

 

Peace (2) - AVM, Goldy

Pral (1) - Peace

 

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. Deadline Friday 6 pm EST. 

[Songstress]

So that being the case, time to look back and see if anyone was trying to draw a Cop view.

 

 

So, Peace had the aforementioned momentum push against GE on D1...and was the only one to vote Pral and side with Mish, who flipped scum....

 

Unvote vote Peace

 

I think I like you today.

 

Since Lily flipped town I've been trying to pinpoint what it is about Peace this game.  His play has seemed a bit over the top scummy (witness the quick Lily vote with no explanation, etc) - if he's a Godfather this may have been his attempt to draw a cop view as Ishy suggested.

 

I'm leaning this direction - want to go back and check Mish and Hally interactions again to see if there are better alternate possibilities, but it looks pretty solid to me.  Back shortly.

[keyholder21]

If no one else has a chance, I still plan to pull peace's posts in the morning. I didn't have the time to do it tonight. Haven't really cared for his play so far, though.

[Songstress]

Wow, Hally and Mish were both pretty low content this game...

 

Aside from players who have already flipped, the only ones they interacted with in any significant way were the following:

 

Peace - Mish confused by Peace's assertion that Despo may have been killed by the scum team with a day kill since the scene said it was done by Han Solo.

 

Ishy - Hallia thought Ishy was unlikely to be responsible for killing Darthe

 

Pral - Hallia was voting him D1 when there were other possibilities, and Mish also went after him both D1 and D2.

 

Goldy - Hallia mentioned him as possible mafia because of his backing off/apologizing for his emotional response, but then voted Pral instead with less justification.  Mish FOS'd him for joke voting me after Despo had been shot and serious gameplay had begun but otherwise did not mention him aside from questioning how Golden was supposed to know about Ishy and Key's history (very mild defense).

 

AVM - Mish took my side arguing against some of AVM's points D1, looked like she may have been setting up to vote or FOS him.

 

GF - Hallia mentioned she didn't know what he was trying to say (But then, nobody else did either)

 

Tress - Mish jumped into the argument between myself and AVM D1 on my side, and Hally mentioned that she didn't think I was likely to have shot Darthe because I was one of the few who wasn't interested in a Darthe train early on.

 

The interactions that look most suspicious from their end would be with Golden.  I agree that Pral is almost certainly town because of how both of them were going after him. 

 

Will go back and ISO Peace now.

[Songstress]

Peace ISO - Part 1:

 

 

 

Yo

 

Standard first post from Peace.

 

 

I can buy Darthe argument..but Lily is the one we should be voting for.  She's not lurking day 1...now is she?

 

VOTE LILY

 

 

 

Feisty Lily is feisty.

 

Hawt.

 

And Feisty Lily is scum.  She didn't even wig out when I voted her like she usually does.  She is staying away from me.

 

 

Proposes Lily lynch for meta reasons...

 

 

 

Oh, Peace, I've learned over many games that we go at each other and we end up being wrong most of the time. I'm trying to change the dynamic. I haven't found all the time I've wasted on thinking you were scum very productive.

 

True.

 

 

Acknowledges her explanation but does not back down.

 

 

 

I don't understand the reasoning behind shooting Des with little to no posts from him in-game. Several of you seem to think this is not unusual. Could you explain why it makes sense to do that and why it's not an unusual move? How is JN different from DM?

 

This is an advanced game.  There is a good possibility, considering the timing of the kill, that the scum team may have a day shot.  If that is the case, killing Desp, early is a great move.  Since he really hasn't participated, there is very little info to grab from the kill.

 

 

 

 

 

Proposes Despo shot by mafia day kill to limit info.

 

 

Darthe - I did answer Key's statement. You must be skimming. Until or unless you actually ask me something, you're just making yourself look worse. But by all means, go ahead.

 

why discourage bad behavior?

 

 

Fomenting the Lily/Darthe argument, which we now know to be town on town.

 

 

 

 

Ishy -- any thoughts on this minor Lily focus?

 

Peace and Darthe both tunnel her hardcore everytime they play with her. Sometimes, they even try to come up with a new reason for voting her.

 

 

Actually, I ignored her in Daps game and she ended up being a Survivor.  Go figure.

 

 

Back to Lily discussion - he is still voting her.

 

 

 

 

I don't understand the reasoning behind shooting Des with little to no posts from him in-game. Several of you seem to think this is not unusual. Could you explain why it makes sense to do that and why it's not an unusual move? How is JN different from DM?

 

This is an advanced game.  There is a good possibility, considering the timing of the kill, that the scum team may have a day shot.  If that is the case, killing Desp, early is a great move.  Since he really hasn't participated, there is very little info to grab from the kill.

 

 

Apparently I need to say this twice.

 

 

Reiterates his proposal that Despo was shot by the mafia team.

 

 

 

something feels off to me about Lily in regards to the early stuff with Darthe but I cant put my finger on it.

 

As for Des it could just be a case of big game hunting.

 

Most overused and wrongly used statement on DM.

 

It's not "big game hunting" when 90% of the players on DM are considered big game.

 

 

Jumps on Dice for terminology...

 

 

Oh..and that same post from Dice...very weak.  Lily is wrong for some reason?  Wtf is that?  When just a few posts before that she herself pointed out the difference in her game play????

 

UNVOTE

 

VOTE DICE.

 

... then he does a 180 on his Lily focus and votes Dice because he was suspicious of her for meta reasons.  

 

 

 

 

Oh..and that same post from Dice...very weak.  Lily is wrong for some reason?  Wtf is that?  When just a few posts before that she herself pointed out the difference in her game play????

 

UNVOTE

 

VOTE DICE.

 

I don't buy that she is forcing her meta because she is more active.  Activity does not equate to attitude or beliefs and those are where she is coming up short in my eyes, thus this vote looks odd to me.

 

And that had nothing to do with my point.

 

 

Tries to limit focus of his sudden defense of Lily/argument against Dice to her change in activity.

 

 

 

 

I'm patient.

 

Since when?

 

Haven't you heard...it's a new Lily.

 

Love the OMGUS vote from Dice.  Wow...didn't see that coming.

 

 

Accuses Dice of OMGUS vote.

 

 

 

This is a long ass deadline. Also, both the dice and darthe trains suck. Why am I voting AVM? unvote vote lily

 

Explain why they suck.  You are supposed to be good at this.

 

 

Demands Darthe explain why he doesn't like the trains on himself and Dice.

 

 

[Songstress]

Peace ISO, part 2:

 

 

 

 

 

^Am I not coming after you early?  Your blindness is going to get you killed girl.  Meta, much like facts, does jack for you if you don't apply it fairly and consistently.

 

 

This is a long ass deadline. Also, both the dice and darthe trains suck. Why am I voting AVM? unvote vote lily

 

Explain why they suck.  You are supposed to be good at this.

 

 

The reasons for voting these people is lackadaisical at best and incriminating at worst.  Need I say more?

 

@darthe - why the comment about the length of the deadline. Isn't a longer deadline better?

 

Does it matter?  Can you ask a relevant question instead of nitpicking irrelevant or null substance that people post?  Also, not really.  Long ass deadlines make people think they have forever to goof off and they perpetrate the DM site meta of weekend inactivity/lazy play.

 

 

 

Yes, say more as I am on the Dice train.  Explain why my vote is lackadasical.

 

 

Argues with Darthe's characterization of the votes on Dice as "lackadaisical at best".

 

 

 

Your reasons are paper thin, dude. It's an OMGUS case.

 

Kinda funny considering what he said about those on the Dice train.  Thin is thin right?

 

 

Continues to foment the Lily/Darthe argument.

 

 

Either Lily is scum or she's being set up to take heat off of Dice.

 

Less than 20 minutes after Darthe's death - jumps in to cast suspicion on either Lily or Dice (both town).

 

 

 

so Peace given that the mafia have no reason to want to protect me what makes you think, immediately after Darthes death that lily is now mafia again?

 

and yes i know that its only my say so the mafia dont wanna protect me.

 

Where did I say this?  You need to re-read my statement with better glasses on.

 

 

Argues with Dice about whether his statement means he thinks Lily is mafia.

 

So..is the game stalled or what?

 

I don't get the harrassment of Songstress when she was talking about town vigs.  Although..anyone trying to guess a town PR in the game thread is not doing town any favors.

 

Personally, I don't believe the killer/s are or is town.  3rd party maybe..or scum with a day shot or both. 

 

Lynch Dice.

 

Half assed defense and FOS of me at the same time... Tries to paint both day kills as anti-town...  Continues pushing to lynch Dice.

 

 

 

 

This is a long ass deadline. Also, both the dice and darthe trains suck. Why am I voting AVM? unvote vote lily

 

With Darthe flipping mason, I wonder if this is a breadcrumb. I will give the benefit if doubt

 

unvote

 

If you think so...why the hell would you point it out???

 

 

Gives Pral a hard time about pointing out a possible breadcrumb of Darthe's mason partner.

 

 

 

 

 

so Peace given that the mafia have no reason to want to protect me what makes you think, immediately after Darthes death that lily is now mafia again?

 

and yes i know that its only my say so the mafia dont wanna protect me.

 

Where did I say this?  You need to re-read my statement with better glasses on.

 

 

here i will show you

 

R2-D2 finished downloading the secret plans and members of the Rebel Alliance were able to analyze them. A weakness was found, a plan devised and pilots were readying their starfighters to take on the Empire. Luke was the newest pilot and he chose R2-D2 as his on-board droid. As R2-D2 was being lowered into Luke's X-wing fighter, a shot rang out. An electrical burst shot through R2 and his circuits were fried.

 

Darthe, R2-D2 - member of the Rebel Alliance - mason, has died.

 

 

Darthe dies here

 

Either Lily is scum or she's being set up to take heat off of Dice.

 

here is where you said it peace.your post has 2 parts. in the first you are now considering that lily is mafia.

 

note that there were on 2 posts between darthes death and this  one by hally one by the mod.

 

So what do you say Peace?

 

 

 

I said Either/Or.  I didn't say you lept to front of my scum list did I?  Look how Dice asked his question.

 

Nor did I ever take you off my list.  So, his statement is very misleading.

 

These posts confuse me - it looks like he's addressing Lily in responses to Dice.

 

 

Mish,

 

meh..I don't read scenes.

 

 

Dice, you are the scummier option...Twist how you wish but it is what it is.

 

Blows off Mish's question about why he insists Despo was shot by mafia as "not reading scenes"..,  Keeps pushing Dice's lynch.

 

 

 

@peace - Leelou said that there could be game hints in the scenes, so it might be a good idea to read them in this game.

 

 

I agree that I don't really like dice's play so far, but right now I'm willing to see darthe's statement that Pral pointed out as a breadcrumb as that's what I immediately thought of after reading darthe's flip. Dice's obvious character hint would make sense in this context as well. Because of that, I find everyone voting him suspect.

 

I also find it weird that peace didn't say anything about darthe calling Lily's play consistently poor when in the "role pm matching/phrasing" post below he discusses not liking when someone insults (his word) someone else by saying their play is bad.

 

I second Mish, though, with the WTH were you thinking @ Pral.

 

Why would I bring that into a game thread?  Why would you?

 

Well, unless Dice comes out and says he is the other mason...I'm sticking with him.  Otherwise it's just wifom.

 

 

Argues with Key about his lack of calling out Darthe on an insult to Lily's play... dismisses Pral's suggestion of Dice as Darthe's mason partner.

 

 

 

And I doubt it's a false claim, unless anyone thinks Chewie wouldn't be in an original trilogy game?

 

Ah..I missed that in his double post.

 

UNVOTE

 

Would like him to come out and say it straight though.  Please Dice.

 

Chewbacca, Han solo's partner.

 

Unvotes Dice due to Chewbacca claim (although he still wants Dice to state it specifically instead of obvious character hinting).

 

 

I don't think Pral points to a breadcrumb and states it in thread if he is scum.  Could be wrong..but I see that happening in a QT, not a game thread.

 

The famous "town slip" that Hally didn't see.

 

 

VOTE LILY

 

Can you guys stop arguing the JN and day 1 joke vote meta stuff.  We have 1 more day to secure a lynch.  Those of you arguing BS just look scummy by using it as a distracting technique.

 

Move along.

 

Goes back to voting Lily with no explanation, calls the JN meta and D1 joke vote arguments a distracting technique.

 

 

[Songstress]

Peace ISO - Part 3:

 

 

 

 

 

 

@peace - Leelou said that there could be game hints in the scenes, so it might be a good idea to read them in this game.

 

 

I agree that I don't really like dice's play so far, but right now I'm willing to see darthe's statement that Pral pointed out as a breadcrumb as that's what I immediately thought of after reading darthe's flip. Dice's obvious character hint would make sense in this context as well. Because of that, I find everyone voting him suspect.

 

I also find it weird that peace didn't say anything about darthe calling Lily's play consistently poor when in the "role pm matching/phrasing" post below he discusses not liking when someone insults (his word) someone else by saying their play is bad.

 

I second Mish, though, with the WTH were you thinking @ Pral.

 

Why would I bring that into a game thread?  Why would you?

 

Well, unless Dice comes out and says he is the other mason...I'm sticking with him.  Otherwise it's just wifom.

 

 

It's not about the thread, but about your feelings on the matter. I just find it interesting that you consider it an insult and don't like it when people criticize others' play, but you didn't say anything to darthe about it when he called Lily's play consistently poor.

 

 

I don't get why you are even attempting to discuss this topic in a game thread.

 

 

Because it shows a possible disconnect between how you feel and how you have acted.

 

Are you stating your think I am scum because I didn't point it out in a game thread?

 

Next time just get to the point and save time for all of us.

 

And no, there is no reason to clutter the game thread with discussions that are already taking place in another thread.

 

Very weak Key.  Extremely.

 

Well..then bring up other in games threads where it has happened and meant something about my alignment if you want to got the meta route.  Otherwise it looks like 1 of 2 things.  You are either shooting in the wind or trying to get someone else to latch on to a tidbit case.

 

Darthe flipped town.  If what you are saying is true..how does it reflect on me?

 

Please..expound on the correlation of my not addressing it in the game thread and how it relates to my alignment when the person were are talking about flips town.

 

I'll be here waiting for that explanation.  Seriously.

 

Gets back into argument with Key about her perception that his behavior in this game is different than his stated beliefs re: insulting a person's gameplay.

 

 

 

 

 

 

vote Lily

 

Care to expand?

 

 

Agreed.

 

 

That's the second time you've popped in from the peanut gallery to parrot Ish. Any original thoughts of your own?

 

 

Dude..she's filled the page with thoughts of her own.  Very suspect post here.

 

 

Calls Golden suspicious for accusing Key of parroting.

 

 

Yeah..I can get behind that.

 

UNVOTE

 

VOTE GE

Not giving my reasons either.  

 

Jumps easily on GE train after he gets overly emotional in response to pressure from Ishy and Key.

 

 

 

Explain this to me, cause I find it infuriating. You pop up in threads and vote with no explanation constantly, then brush off pressure for it. If I do it I'm scummy for it? Explain how it's reasonable for me to be called to for keeping a vote on someone when I hadn't posted in the game since the original question was asked. Key parrots you twice, I dislike it and it results in a vote? The only damn thing I wanted was to see Lily's response. Ish, suffice to say I'm fine with you mislynching me if this is how you want to play.

 

That answer to that is to hold his feet to the water when he does it.  I do.  It's not hard.

 

 

Advises GE to pressure Ishy for voting with no explanation.

 

 

 

 

Well..then bring up other in games threads where it has happened and meant something about my alignment if you want to got the meta route. Otherwise it looks like 1 of 2 things. You are either shooting in the wind or trying to get someone else to latch on to a tidbit case.

 

Darthe flipped town. If what you are saying is true..how does it reflect on me?

 

Please..expound on the correlation of my not addressing it in the game thread and how it relates to my alignment when the person were are talking about flips town.

 

I'll be here waiting for that explanation. Seriously.

 

I didn’t say that it was your meta. I said I think it holds the same merit as looking at someone’s meta. There’s a difference.

You can think it’s that all you want. I was just stating something that I found interesting. Were it not you, wouldn’t you find it interesting that someone said they didn’t like the insulting in one place and then let it go without saying a word about it in another?

The fact that he flipped town doesn’t reflect anything. It’s not about his game play, but your reaction (or no reaction as the case is) to something that was said. Who said it doesn’t even matter. It’s what was said.

I could have been you attempting to go along with the fact that darthe was trying to discredit Lily and her play. You were even included in the original argument from Ishy that darthe was responding to. You also have said before in games that I have played with you that you purposefully do not defend others when you are scum. So, I found it interesting, and something I’m noting that you said you didn’t like it in one place and then didn’t comment on it in another.

 

 

If you would have just said this to begin with we could have avoided this little dance.   At the time, I was voting Lily I believe or still had her on my scumlist.  Defending her would not be an option at that point unless I was attempting social control and going beyond the game.

 

 

Explains to Key that he didn't criticize Darthe for his criticism of Lily's gameplay because he had Lily on his scum list at the time and did not want to defend her.

 

 

 

 

And that would have been fine, all you had to say was you wanted to gauge her reaction, or that you had a reason and you'd share it in just a bit. Instead, you decided to be a dick, just for the sake of being a dick. It didn't serve any other purpose. And if you think that your dislike of Key parroting me is the reason I voted you, you obviously weren't reading closely.

And just a bit of advice, if you're going to base your experience of my play off of the French Abortion game, you're going to be terribly misinformed. Best thing for you is to forget that game ever happened.

 

Was @ GE.

 

Whew..thought you were calling me a dick.  I was confused cause My name isn't Richard.

 

 

It's a joke!  Ha!

 

 

Not pral...had a pretty good town slip early on.

 

This is after Hally's vote on Pral - he references that he had a "town slip" but doesn't explain what he was referencing, even when Hally doesn't seem to know what he means.

 

 

UNVOTE

 

VOTE LILY.  

 

Golden has repented.

 

This is about 20 minutes or so after I voted Lily - and named him as a strong suspect for mafia in my reads list.  He didn't bother to address my comments on him, and his reason for switching his vote from a train at 4/7 votes to a train of 1/7 was not as weak as his vote was in the first place.

 

 

I'm thinking Pral is scum.  Two things. 

 

1 - Vote analysis.  He's followed the only two large trains.  Dice and Lily. 

 

2 - He has a solid town read on me.  Everyone I've gone after so far has flipped town.  How the hell would anyone have a solid town read on me?

 

VOTE PRAL

I'm doubting my stance on Pral's "town slip" earlier. Maybe it was such a slip after all.

 

Now goes after Pral because of his vote history and his stated town read on Peace, waffles on his previous "town slip" stance.

 

 

[Songstress]

So, Golden's interactions with the two known mafia make me wonder - especially the fact that Hallia seemed to be leading up to a vote on Golden but instead voted Pral with no real justification, avoiding the train that looked most likely to take off (already at 3 votes) and instead joining her scum mate on Pral's train.

 

Peace's play has been pretty much overtly scummy - which could be because he was trying to draw a cop view as Godfather.  I have an alternate explanation in mind, but I'm torn.  I've tried to figure out why Peace does the things he does before and been utterly wrong.

 

I think I'm good with voting either one of them today, but I'm going with my gut right this second.

 

Vote Golden

[peacesells]

The Force, these two are not strong with.

 

So, Peace had the aforementioned momentum push against GE on D1...and was the only one to vote Pral and side with Mish, who flipped scum....

 

Unvote vote Peace

 

 

 

That's what I was thinking. Probably Palpatine as a Godfather and Fett as the SK.

I'd be willing to bet you hit both on possible roles left and the characters

 

So, Peace had the aforementioned momentum push against GE on D1...and was the only one to vote Pral and side with Mish, who flipped scum....

 

Unvote vote Peace

 

That makes sense to me. 

 

Vote Peace

 

 

 

 

 

The Force, this one is strong with.

So, Golden's interactions with the two known mafia make me wonder - especially the fact that Hallia seemed to be leading up to a vote on Golden but instead voted Pral with no real justification, avoiding the train that looked most likely to take off (already at 3 votes) and instead joining her scum mate on Pral's train.

 

Peace's play has been pretty much overtly scummy - which could be because he was trying to draw a cop view as Godfather.  I have an alternate explanation in mind, but I'm torn.  I've tried to figure out why Peace does the things he does before and been utterly wrong.

 

I think I'm good with voting either one of them today, but I'm going with my gut right this second.

 

Vote Golden

 

 

UNVOTE

 

VOTE GOLDEN.

[Graendals favourite]

Vote Golden

[Songstress]

The Force, these two are not strong with.

 

So, Peace had the aforementioned momentum push against GE on D1...and was the only one to vote Pral and side with Mish, who flipped scum....

 

Unvote vote Peace

 

 

 

That's what I was thinking. Probably Palpatine as a Godfather and Fett as the SK.

I'd be willing to bet you hit both on possible roles left and the characters

 

So, Peace had the aforementioned momentum push against GE on D1...and was the only one to vote Pral and side with Mish, who flipped scum....

 

Unvote vote Peace

 

That makes sense to me. 

 

Vote Peace

 

 

 

 

 

The Force, this one is strong with.

So, Golden's interactions with the two known mafia make me wonder - especially the fact that Hallia seemed to be leading up to a vote on Golden but instead voted Pral with no real justification, avoiding the train that looked most likely to take off (already at 3 votes) and instead joining her scum mate on Pral's train.

 

Peace's play has been pretty much overtly scummy - which could be because he was trying to draw a cop view as Godfather.  I have an alternate explanation in mind, but I'm torn.  I've tried to figure out why Peace does the things he does before and been utterly wrong.

 

I think I'm good with voting either one of them today, but I'm going with my gut right this second.

 

Vote Golden

 

 

UNVOTE

 

VOTE GOLDEN.

 

 

[peacesells]

Big Bang Theory was pretty funny tonight.  James Earl Jones aka Darthe Vader and Simba was on.

[Pralaya]

Love those day kills :)

[Pralaya]

Vote Golden

 

This is as much a wtf get-on-the-train vote like he did earlier on GE.

 

I would bet on GF being a third party or scum. If GF is scum, then it would mean that all the three mafia lurked Day 1, which seems improbable. But I definitely don't have a town feeling on him.

[GoldeneyesND]

I'm an easy lynch cause I was already almost run up before and my scumhunting has sucked, so it's not that hard. I'm VT Luke Skywalker. I highly encourage you all not to be fooled by the weaksauce train on me. GF has literally only bandwagoned this entire game and Peace is obviscum. Tress, I've got no clue.

[peacesells]

I'm an easy lynch cause I was already almost run up before and my scumhunting has sucked, so it's not that hard. I'm VT Luke Skywalker. I highly encourage you all not to be fooled by the weaksauce train on me. GF has literally only bandwagoned this entire game and Peace is obviscum. Tress, I've got no clue.

 

How do you get get it so wrong so often?  Did you not get my not so subtle character hint?

 

Luke...VT?  Really?

[GoldeneyesND]

You're scummy. You're voting for me. It's fairly obvious. Figured I'd get out my sad little reads in this game before I get bandwagoned again.

[Songstress]

 

 

I'm an easy lynch cause I was already almost run up before and my scumhunting has sucked, so it's not that hard. I'm VT Luke Skywalker. I highly encourage you all not to be fooled by the weaksauce train on me. GF has literally only bandwagoned this entire game and Peace is obviscum. Tress, I've got no clue.

How do you get get it so wrong so often? Did you not get my not so subtle character hint?

 

Luke...VT? Really?

Well, Leia was VT. It's not that implausible.

[peacesells]

Not strong with the force was Leia.

 

Main character of whole story was Luke.

[Leelou]

Vote Count

 

Goldy (3) - Tress, Peace, GF

Peace (2) - AVM, Goldy

Pral (1) - Peace

 

Not Voting - Key, Ishy

 

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. Deadline Friday 6 pm EST. 

[John E. Kelley]

Fakeclaiming Luke would be suicide, he has to be in the game. Same for Peace's subtle claim imo. I won't be joining on their trains unless something new is revealed. Feel better about running up GF or Tress.

[peacesells]

lol..not many left Ishy. 

[keyholder21]

I'm inclined to believe GE's claim atm. If he was lying, you'd think he'd claim a sweet role for Luke. Luke as VT would be harder to accept. Also, at the risk of sounding like I'm parroting ( ), I agree that fake claiming Luke would be suicide.

 

Fakeclaiming Luke would be suicide, he has to be in the game. Same for Peace's subtle claim imo. I won't be joining on their trains unless something new is revealed. Feel better about running up GF or Tress.

Tress I haven't been able to read this game. She's seemed pretty reasonable. Although she didn't unvote GE after his claim, so that's iffy.

 

GF, who the heck knows.

 

What about AVM? I don't think I've seen you mention him at all.

 

 

 

I would bet on GF being a third party or scum. If GF is scum, then it would mean that all the three mafia lurked Day 1, which seems improbable. But I definitely don't have a town feeling on him.

Improbable, but not impossible. GF hasn't been very active in any of the games I've played with him/read. I don't think alignment would change that. Hallia has the same problem of not posting much regardless of alignment. Mish was busy and in four games, so it could just be coincidence.

[Songstress]

I didn't unvote because I was supposed to be sleeping, and I wanted to see if anyone had further input.

 

I can save you the time from running me up and claim now if you insist.

 

Unless Key is fooling the hell out of me, or the logic regarding why Pral is unlikely to be scum is faulty, then GF has to be either mafia or SK. That would put AVM as the other one.

 

Unvote, vote GF

[John E. Kelley]

As well as we're doing, we can risk a mislynch today in order to find out. Our last two anti-Town roles would have to be between GF, Tress and AVM.

 

Vote GF