[Basic] Blood Moon Mafia - Game Over.

[Tommyrod]

 

 

Wheeeeeee

 

Checking in.

 

*checks in*

 

Okay, checked in. Time to find teh scum.

 

 

Vote Csarmi

 

Salami lerves to play the helpful townie angle when he's scum.

 

 

 

*gasp*

But I'm always helpful!

 

 

Not agaiiiin!

Are you maffia again?

 

 

Oh puhlease. Instant laugh off of a serious vote and then cutesy distraction post with DM's most famous lurker.

 

Obvious scum here folks.

 

Tommy is town, he didn't call me a crappy player for opening with "yo."  He does that as scum.

 

 

I see what you did thar.

 

 

 

Goody goody gumdrops we already got some nice juicy tidbits goin! I like it
 

 

Town Tommy is verbose and helpful, scum Tommy is verbose combined with reticent at times. You entered the game with a weak opening post and started to pal around, which I haven't seen from you before. Of course it's only 2 posts, you can still turn this sinking ship around! 

I would avoid meta reads of me. It tends to not be to town's advantage.

 

 
 

Where have you seen me play as town, anyway?

 
 

 

In the game that fell apart and got cancelled. Or am I wrong?

I was a replacement at the end of the game. This is a new game. I would advise against directly comparing the two. Meta is a supplementary tool anyway.

 

 
 
 

 

Town Tommy is verbose and helpful, scum Tommy is verbose combined with reticent at times. You entered the game with a weak opening post and started to pal around, which I haven't seen from you before. Of course it's only 2 posts, you can still turn this sinking ship around!  

 
So if I'm verbose as both, what does that make me now? Indie?

 

 
Yeahhhhh this grouping of posts gave me MAJOR scumvibes from Tommy. He first discourages meta reads on him, says that it wouldn't be advantageous for town as if he's somehow immune to meta reads or something (inb4 Tommy comes in with his prepared schpiel about how he'll play differently all the time to try and keep from being meta'd), then asks GE if he's played with town Tommy before. Why prompt GE about meta RIGHT after discouraging anyone from using a meta read on you??? This makes absolutely no sense. After GE responds, Tommy again discourages meta, and then the last post came after the meta thing was pretty much dropped, Tommy just kinda responded to it again without being prompted. Strikes me that he saw that GE said Tommy was verbose as both and figured he could weaken GE's meta argument even more. I don't see justification for town Tommy bringing the issue back up after discouraging the use of meta on him twice.
 

There's nothing improper about my gameplay. Not being the same as yours doesn't make it wrong.

 
I def wouldn't say your gameplay is improper, but it can be very frustrating at times. Only because I know you're a better player than a lot of peeps prob realize hehe.
 
But you answering Mish like this and sticking up for yourself made me pretty much grin one of my biggest mafia grins. Moar of this please Hallia, and I won't vote for you the entire game even if you DO end up looking scummy!
 

 

 

Nope I am town, not mafia or third party. What about you Mish?

 
Why the lie detector-like statement? We know there's none in this game. Awfully defensive there too for a joke.

 

GE was right, this was a big ping. I don't think it was awfully defensive at all, and incidentally you REFERENCE that Hallia made a lie-detector type statement, yet DO NOT RESPOND BACK. Do you not see how this is majorly scumzors?
 
And how do we know there isn't a LD in this game btw? Cause it's basic, or did AJ tell us what roles would be in the game?
 
 

I think Tommy's vote on you was just a joke, but Des's secondary vote on you struck me as just opportunistic.  Everyone's always all 'Let's lynch Csarmageddon!' all the time

 

Just to get this out of the way, I <3 the way you didn't hesitate to vote after finding something that stuck out to you. So far I'm lerving your play this game.

 

Okay so now- what seemed opportunistic about my vote? Because it was on Csarmi? Or because it was on someone who already had a vote? Saying something seems opportunistic without saying why is like saying someone seems scummy without giving reasoning.
 

 

Good morning lovelies.
 
Cool to see you again, Tommy! Happy you stayed around even tho my game was a total failure
 
I really dunno what Csarmi's talking about with copying posts.
 
Hallia, warning you now, proper gameplay or I'm gonna lead a policy lynch on you myself, not risking you hiding behind your meta as mafia again

 
How do you feel about Hallia's vote on Despot

 
 Ugh, gross. ANOTHER pot shot type post from Tommy, and again I seem to be involved. First he asks Csarmi if I'm scumbeans, as if Csarmi was some kind of final arbiter on that matter, then asks Mish what she thinks about Hallia's vote on me. This kind of sideline sniping and prodding others for specific reads on a specific situation screams fake scumhunting to me, and in this instance looks like a possible set up for a teammate as well.

 

Tommy is obviscum right now. Too bad his partner in crime is even moar obviscummy.
 

 

How do you feel about Hallia's vote on Despot

 
Well she does have a point, he chose to put Csarmi at L-3 on page 1 on the game. I don't see scum Des doing that tho. I don't see a mafia Hallia putting herself out there like that either, but if she is mafia, it would make sense to change up her meta completly,  especially since I just commented on her hiding behind it as mafia very recently. So null tell on her.

 

And then this response. I was the SECOND VOTE. Yet Mish chooses to phrase it "he chose to put Csarmi at L-3 on page 1 of the game". Blatant attempt to color the situation to make me look bad, just to immediately say I wouldn't do that as scum. I got news for you Mish, scum Despo would have NO problem putting a second vote on someone early in a thread. Just like town Despo wouldn't. Starting trains early is one of the best ways to make sure a game starts with good activity, and both scum and town Despo like playing the "let's start the scumhunt already" card.

 

Also wanna point out that this post is very fence-sittingy in general, yet uses a lot of words to do so. So yeah, overjustification methinks.

 

Lynch Alanna
 
I want you to report in and give us some early impressions of the behavior in this game.

 

Don't like this move at all either. Tommy makes it very clear that his vote is more to draw Alanna out, instead of voting her cause he thinks she seems scummy. I think it's Tom trying to fit his town meta by vote-hopping, but the manner in which he did so here exposed him as scum. He's too much of a veteran mafiaplayer, and one whose playstyle I personally less than three btw, to put out a vote for pressure, or to draw someone into a convo. It completely reduces the effectiveness of the vote.
 

I think there's mostly been a lot of meta talk, which isn't super helpful to me, having not played here in a long while. I find neither Despo's vote or Hallia's particularly suspicious.

 

I did like Alanna's response however. Isn't afraid to go against the grain somewhat, seems cool and collected. Part of this might be because she knows she's under no real duress, since Tommy already explained his vote was to draw her in, not to lynch her, and I did just personally witness her do an excellent job of clearing pressure off herself as scum, but for now I'll give her a town nod.
 

Unvote Alanna

Vote Golden

I'm skeptical of your justification for suspecting both Mish and myself so far. I think your "cases" are reaching.

 

Tommy's soft defense and then chainsaw defense of Mish just makes a flip on her that much more enticing.

 

Tommy and Mish for scumbuddies of '14!
 

Golden, I don't know how your world works, but in mine, a statement with a afterwards, is meant lighthearted and as a joke.

 

Hmmmm playing the "it was a joke all along" card eh?

 

Well first of all, adding a smiley on the end doesn't automatically mean you were def joking before, it could have been that you were scum and wanted to point out Hallia's lurky playstyle, yet didn't want to make it seem like you were being harsh, so added the smiley really quick at the end to make it seem like yall were besties after all.

 

Second-

 

 

 

Good morning lovelies.

Cool to see you again, Tommy! Happy you stayed around even tho my game was a total failure 

I really dunno what Csarmi's talking about with copying posts.

Hallia, warning you now, proper gameplay or I'm gonna lead a policy lynch on you myself, not risking you hiding behind your meta as mafia again 

There's nothing improper about my gameplay. Not being the same as yours doesn't make it wrong.

 

 
Fine, proper might not be the right word. Some actual gameplay then. When you actually do play, you've got good instincts, so it's a shame you use most of your mafia time on lurking or unrelated posts.

 

When Hallia first responded to your poke at her, you didn't point out that it was a joke at all. Plus, you waffle a bit here, and earlier in this post (which I chopped up and had up top), you also paint her as defensive. If you thought she was defensive here, why not point out HERE that it was a joke?

 

I don't buy that it was a joke at all. I think the smiley was added to make you seem all light hearted and fun cause you're scumzilla. And I also think we're takin down your scumbuddy Tommy once you flip mafs.

 

Unvote, Vote Mish.

 

 

 

 

 

ISO of Despot's posts (1 of 3)

[Tommyrod]

 

 

 

Despothera, on 22 Jan 2014 - 04:22 AM, said:

Never mind, never mind, just read the post again. Mish does say "awfully defensive there for a joke" so yeah strike my last point against her. However she still seems vurry scummy to me altogether, so my vote stays. WTL Tommy as well however.

 

 

Despothera, on 22 Jan 2014 - 04:32 AM, said:

 

I just put Mish at L-3! And it's not even page 4 yet in the game! Whatever will we do?!?!?!

 

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Despothera, on 22 Jan 2014 - 04:32 AM, said:

page 5, blech. L2count Despo.

 

 

Despothera, on 22 Jan 2014 - 04:55 AM, said:

Btw I plan on using mucho gifs this game, partially to troll Csarlami.

 

So yeahhhhh...

 

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Despothera, on 22 Jan 2014 - 09:02 AM, said:

Didn't click on the link, didn't open the spoiler till just now. Cool beans. Open setup. Kewl.

 

Cloud, you saying that Mish flipping town would incriminate me and Cloud somehow, soon after YOU had just voted her, is just ubermegascumzors. Mish flipping town doesn't make me scum, it makes me wrong. Right now she still looks uberscummy with that "put him to L-3 front page" jargon, but she could be town for all I know.

 

@Tom: Of course it could easily be interpreted that I might be scumbuddying someone. I don't care tho. It was my genuine reaction, it was nice to see her both stand up to Mish pretty fast and also follow what she thought she saw with a vote.

 

@Csarlami: You can go ahead and give us an excuse in advance for why you won't be active this game, be my guest. Right now isn't a good time for you to be appealing to my mercy when it comes to trolling at this time.

 

 

 

Despothera, on 22 Jan 2014 - 09:25 AM, said:

 

Tommyrod, on 22 Jan 2014 - 09:08 AM, said:

I am willing to admit I could be way off and Mish actually is scum, but at the moment I find Golden and Despot to both be more suspicious in the way they seem to be lynch happy with underdeveloped reasoning or just plain reaching (I still don't know wtf Golden meant by me being cute), and it's a bit convenient that they seem to agree with each other on a case that I think is weak to begin with. As Salami noted, I too find it hard to believe that Despot doesn't know what game mechanics we're using. Hallia not knowing I can stomach because I've seen her be a bit of a disconnected player in Salami's game that just ended.

 

 

Italics: It's relatively early on Day 1. You expect someone to have really strong cases at this point? Without an overt terribad scumslip at the start of the game, EVERY case is gonna be pretty weak to start off. That being said, I also think it's the strongest case that CAN be made at this point. I also think it's very protown to start pushing immediately and pursuing leads, which is why I find both GE as well as Hallia somewhat townish. You don't fall into this category exactly because you've proven your vote isn't for your best lynch, you'll put it somewhere in a placeholder spot on an inactive just to give yourself an excuse to vote hop to mask your meta.

 

Bold: Sorry to break it to you, but it's true. I read the rules but didn't check out the setup, then forgot it was open setup. I too, can derp.

 

 

Tommyrod, on 22 Jan 2014 - 09:08 AM, said:

Despot, is your reasoning that I am chainsaw defending Mish your sole justification for linking Mish and I as scumbuddies? It seems that way.

 

Actually, no. Her opening post also mentioned you in a friendly manner, and you soft defended her before you chainsaw defended her, and did so rather aggressively, so really it was more like hardcore defense of Mish on your part. That hardcore defense of her, along with with her mentioning you out of very few players in her OP, and I think you got a pretty good link there.

 

 

 

Despothera, on 22 Jan 2014 - 12:57 PM, said:

Hmmm. Mish's responses and Alanna's comments have swayed me somewhat.

 

Unvote, Vote Tom

 

Regardless of Mish's alignment may be, Tommy buddying her like that stinks to high heaven, and he keeps trying to reduce the case on him to being "weak", a common scum tactic. And his sideline snipe posts really bother me, how he keeps trying to look like he's staying active by asking people about their take on things, when in actuality he's not doing any actual scumhunting on his own.

 

 

Despothera, on 22 Jan 2014 - 7:33 PM, said:

Durn. Mish started fear mongering about lynches again. Looks like she was scum after all.

 

Unvote, Mish

 

Still don't like Tommy. He's fabricating a bunch of arguments out of thin air, stuff pike saying I'm too selective with my logic, he never really backed that up imo. Also think he's overplaying the "you'll have to convince me you're town" thing and I don't see town Tommy coming in here and voting and fosing people for "bombastic" play early, which imo is a lot more indicative of town alignment.

 

@Cloud: still somewhat null on you

 

Scum reads on Tom and Mish, town reads on GE, Hallia, and Alanna atm

 

 

Despothera, on 22 Jan 2014 - 7:46 PM, said:

 

Misheru Sedai, on 22 Jan 2014 - 7:36 PM, said:

Fear mongering? I don't even know what you're talking about right now Des.

 

Talking about how you were at L-1 and everything. If you were conscious of that fact and worried about getting lynched, why not just claim to try and get town to focus elsewhere?

 

 

 

Despothera, on 22 Jan 2014 - 7:55 PM, said:

That's fear mongering Mish- youre fosing Hallia for putting you at L-1, when the fact is if someone came and hammered you before you claimed and you flipped town, that person would look incredibly scummy and would likely be the next day's lynch.

 

 

 

Despothera, on 22 Jan 2014 - 04:22 AM, said:

Never mind, never mind, just read the post again. Mish does say "awfully defensive there for a joke" so yeah strike my last point against her. However she still seems vurry scummy to me altogether, so my vote stays. WTL Tommy as well however.

 

 

Despothera, on 22 Jan 2014 - 04:32 AM, said:

 

I just put Mish at L-3! And it's not even page 4 yet in the game! Whatever will we do?!?!?!

 

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Despothera, on 22 Jan 2014 - 04:32 AM, said:

page 5, blech. L2count Despo.

 

 

Despothera, on 22 Jan 2014 - 04:55 AM, said:

Btw I plan on using mucho gifs this game, partially to troll Csarlami.

 

So yeahhhhh...

 

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Despothera, on 22 Jan 2014 - 09:02 AM, said:

Didn't click on the link, didn't open the spoiler till just now. Cool beans. Open setup. Kewl.

 

Cloud, you saying that Mish flipping town would incriminate me and Cloud somehow, soon after YOU had just voted her, is just ubermegascumzors. Mish flipping town doesn't make me scum, it makes me wrong. Right now she still looks uberscummy with that "put him to L-3 front page" jargon, but she could be town for all I know.

 

@Tom: Of course it could easily be interpreted that I might be scumbuddying someone. I don't care tho. It was my genuine reaction, it was nice to see her both stand up to Mish pretty fast and also follow what she thought she saw with a vote.

 

@Csarlami: You can go ahead and give us an excuse in advance for why you won't be active this game, be my guest. Right now isn't a good time for you to be appealing to my mercy when it comes to trolling at this time.

 

 

 

Despothera, on 22 Jan 2014 - 09:25 AM, said:

 

Tommyrod, on 22 Jan 2014 - 09:08 AM, said:

I am willing to admit I could be way off and Mish actually is scum, but at the moment I find Golden and Despot to both be more suspicious in the way they seem to be lynch happy with underdeveloped reasoning or just plain reaching (I still don't know wtf Golden meant by me being cute), and it's a bit convenient that they seem to agree with each other on a case that I think is weak to begin with. As Salami noted, I too find it hard to believe that Despot doesn't know what game mechanics we're using. Hallia not knowing I can stomach because I've seen her be a bit of a disconnected player in Salami's game that just ended.

 

 

Italics: It's relatively early on Day 1. You expect someone to have really strong cases at this point? Without an overt terribad scumslip at the start of the game, EVERY case is gonna be pretty weak to start off. That being said, I also think it's the strongest case that CAN be made at this point. I also think it's very protown to start pushing immediately and pursuing leads, which is why I find both GE as well as Hallia somewhat townish. You don't fall into this category exactly because you've proven your vote isn't for your best lynch, you'll put it somewhere in a placeholder spot on an inactive just to give yourself an excuse to vote hop to mask your meta.

 

Bold: Sorry to break it to you, but it's true. I read the rules but didn't check out the setup, then forgot it was open setup. I too, can derp.

 

 

Tommyrod, on 22 Jan 2014 - 09:08 AM, said:

Despot, is your reasoning that I am chainsaw defending Mish your sole justification for linking Mish and I as scumbuddies? It seems that way.

 

Actually, no. Her opening post also mentioned you in a friendly manner, and you soft defended her before you chainsaw defended her, and did so rather aggressively, so really it was more like hardcore defense of Mish on your part. That hardcore defense of her, along with with her mentioning you out of very few players in her OP, and I think you got a pretty good link there.

 

 

 

Despothera, on 22 Jan 2014 - 12:57 PM, said:

Hmmm. Mish's responses and Alanna's comments have swayed me somewhat.

 

Unvote, Vote Tom

 

Regardless of Mish's alignment may be, Tommy buddying her like that stinks to high heaven, and he keeps trying to reduce the case on him to being "weak", a common scum tactic. And his sideline snipe posts really bother me, how he keeps trying to look like he's staying active by asking people about their take on things, when in actuality he's not doing any actual scumhunting on his own.

 

 

Despothera, on 22 Jan 2014 - 7:33 PM, said:

Durn. Mish started fear mongering about lynches again. Looks like she was scum after all.

 

Unvote, Mish

 

Still don't like Tommy. He's fabricating a bunch of arguments out of thin air, stuff pike saying I'm too selective with my logic, he never really backed that up imo. Also think he's overplaying the "you'll have to convince me you're town" thing and I don't see town Tommy coming in here and voting and fosing people for "bombastic" play early, which imo is a lot more indicative of town alignment.

 

@Cloud: still somewhat null on you

 

Scum reads on Tom and Mish, town reads on GE, Hallia, and Alanna atm

 

 

Despothera, on 22 Jan 2014 - 7:46 PM, said:

 

Misheru Sedai, on 22 Jan 2014 - 7:36 PM, said:

Fear mongering? I don't even know what you're talking about right now Des.

 

Talking about how you were at L-1 and everything. If you were conscious of that fact and worried about getting lynched, why not just claim to try and get town to focus elsewhere?

 

 

 

Despothera, on 22 Jan 2014 - 7:55 PM, said:

That's fear mongering Mish- youre fosing Hallia for putting you at L-1, when the fact is if someone came and hammered you before you claimed and you flipped town, that person would look incredibly scummy and would likely be the next day's lynch.

 

This is a small game, so its relatively easy to be put at L-1. I think you were trying to get people off your lynch without having to claim.

 

 

Despothera, on 22 Jan 2014 - 10:10 PM, said:

 

Misheru Sedai, on 22 Jan 2014 - 8:30 PM, said:

Not disinterested, overworked. I kinda shouldn't have signed up for this game; but I did so now I gotta push through and do my part.

 

First of, I'd say I'm pretty sure there's one mafia between Hallia and Cloud. My gut says both. And after that I'd say one of those who hasn't commented much/commited on my train... In my experience that's a place the mafia likes to hide out on D1. So much easier if town just does the work for them.

 

Alright. I'm going to bed.

 

Okay, and back to thinking Mish is town again.

 

Unvote for now, will see if I wanna put it back on Tommy later or on someone else. Peace being this inactive is a bit strange.

 

 

 

Despothera, on 23 Jan 2014 - 07:45 AM, said:

Csarlami youre reverting back to old form.

 

And thats not a good thing.

 

 

 

Despothera, on 23 Jan 2014 - 07:57 AM, said:

I think you know what I mean

 

In case you still need a hint:

 

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Despothera, on 23 Jan 2014 - 08:50 AM, said:

 

csarmi, on 23 Jan 2014 - 08:10 AM, said:

Okay that hint is totally lost on me.

 

So what do you think about Golden?

 

So far, I'm feeling he's town. He pursued stuff right out the gate and saw some of the same possibilities I did. Seems very protown to me.

 

As for that hint, google "kurt vonnegut asterisk"

 

 

 

 

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[Tommyrod]

This is a small game, so its relatively easy to be put at L-1. I think you were trying to get people off your lynch without having to claim.

 

 

Despothera, on 22 Jan 2014 - 10:10 PM, said:

 

Misheru Sedai, on 22 Jan 2014 - 8:30 PM, said:

Not disinterested, overworked. I kinda shouldn't have signed up for this game; but I did so now I gotta push through and do my part.

 

First of, I'd say I'm pretty sure there's one mafia between Hallia and Cloud. My gut says both. And after that I'd say one of those who hasn't commented much/commited on my train... In my experience that's a place the mafia likes to hide out on D1. So much easier if town just does the work for them.

 

Alright. I'm going to bed.

 

Okay, and back to thinking Mish is town again.

 

Unvote for now, will see if I wanna put it back on Tommy later or on someone else. Peace being this inactive is a bit strange.

 

 

 

Despothera, on 23 Jan 2014 - 07:45 AM, said:

Csarlami youre reverting back to old form.

 

And thats not a good thing.

 

 

 

Despothera, on 23 Jan 2014 - 07:57 AM, said:

I think you know what I mean

 

In case you still need a hint:

 

QPCQ.jpg

 

 

Despothera, on 23 Jan 2014 - 08:50 AM, said:

 

csarmi, on 23 Jan 2014 - 08:10 AM, said:

Okay that hint is totally lost on me.

 

So what do you think about Golden?

 

So far, I'm feeling he's town. He pursued stuff right out the gate and saw some of the same possibilities I did. Seems very protown to me.

 

As for that hint, google "kurt vonnegut asterisk"

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Despothera, on 24 Jan 2014 - 02:07 AM, said:

Vote Tommy

 

Got a wot comin, but it'll prob happen after audit. Wanted to get the vote out first.

 

Top Tier Tom dropping Top Tier Scumtells like candy. Anyhoo, back in a bit.

 

 

Despothera, on 24 Jan 2014 - 05:32 AM, said:

Alright I'll be nice and spoiler it for yall- please don't skip or skim it tho. I'll know cause my elves will tell me and then I'll have them leave poops in your socks.

 

Tommyrod, on 23 Jan 2014 - 09:22 AM, said:

1. Please tell me about Allana and her typical play style. Do you think she is someone to keep an eye on in this game, or have you put her aside for a while?

 

2. Do you know if Peace said he would be gone for a few days?

 

3. What is it you don't like about Salami? He's too quiet?

 

4. P.S. I have been thinking about your scum meta, and though we seem to be in disagreement so far, my scum read on you may be misplaced this early on. If you are able to maintain this level of ferocity throughout the game, you will be less suspicious to me. If your activity falls off hard, I may be skeptical. I hope you think your arguments through a little bit more though, as the eagerness to attack on what I felt were flimsy reasons is what threw me for a loop in the first place.

 

1. Firstly, she hasn't played in quite a while before replacing into a recent game. And she's slightly before my time- I played with her a fair amount back in the day, but from what I understand her "glory days" were before me. I know she's generally pretty level headed, and killer at endgame. Don't have much to offer you as far as how her town and scum metas differ. As for this game, I had a substantial town read on her initially, however I'm worried that she's overplaying how bothered she is with aggressive playstyles in this game (I remember her being almost as aggressive at times back in the day) to use it as an excuse to keep from participating as much, so that town read has gone done somewhat.

 

2. No, but I do faintly remember him having a LOA period coming up, going on a mini vacay or something.

 

3. My early vote on Salami was based off a premature meta read (one that I still find to be valid btw, but it obv wasn't much to go on at the time). I assume that you might be referencing my posts talking about trolling him however- that doesn't have anything to do with this game. But yes, I am perturbed with him.

 

4. Nice backtrack. I also like how you set the foundation to come back to pursuing my lynch down the road- if I don't stay "ferocious" enough for you.

 

Tommyrod, on 23 Jan 2014 - 11:22 AM, said:

Hallia's Mish vote pinged me and she's been precariously off topic since then, yet nobody is taking her to task for that. Why?

 

When I look at them all together, I see a very flat attempt at scumhunting, at best.

 

The Despot vote, for one. If she is genuinely concerned with Despot's alignment, would she not question his motives? Interact with him in any way at all?

 

She then jumps to Des because his response was... null? And because she thinks Mish is scummier now for "gut" reasons. I think the lie detector trap idea is ludicrous. I am town and it caught my attention. How you would know that only scum would make that a talking point is absurd.

 

The "no one hammered" line is only good if we know the wagon has no scum in it. One or both of the wolves could have been; we don't know yet. I say this is bad logic.

 

She then more or less exits from the arena.

 

There's a lot of misinformed logic at play in her reasoning... and what I see as underdeveloped and opportunistic voting. I don't know her well enough to say this couldn't be her (lousy) town game, so I would like all other players to comment on her post history.

 

Meanwhile, I am sufficiently suspicious to apply pressure where I think pressure is due.

 

Looking forward to the subsequent discussion.

 

 

Alright since you're so eager for discussion about Hallia, here goes:

 

Hallia is known for being somewhat of a coaster/lurker. She's not a bad player at all, as I've said before, she has great instincts (she often figures out who the scum are before a lot of others) and she's great at staying under the radar as scum. Thing is tho, she is somewhat timid when it comes to actual "scumhunting". She'll pretty much never pressure someone a ton for reactions, will ask questions but won't really interrogate someone, and goes offtopic a lot. She plays mafia very light-heartedly I think, I don't think she looks at it quite as seriously as I or others do. She's just trying to have fun most the time.

 

So yeah, you could quote grab all of her posts in pretty much any game, and you won't see much of a strong attempt at scumhunting. She tends to rely on two things somewhat when playing as town- following her gut and following others she thinks seem trustworthy.

 

She also seems to have a little bit of difficulty articulating her suspicions at times- partially because she relies on her gut. I think she's trying to work on this, to be more vocal, and frankly I think she's leetsauce this game. But I think because she isn't used to articulating her suspicions, she might be trying to use things that she's heard others say before without really seeing if it pertains to the current situation or not. I think this could explain why you saw some gaps in her logic.

 

For instance, the thing about Mish sitting at L-1 for a bit. She's prob seen this argument referenced in a lot of games, so threw it out there because she thought it was relevant, without considering the wifom behind it or the fact that that argument is most often used at endgame or at least later in the game. As for her voting record, I don't think it's opportunistic really, I think it's more indicative of her trying to assert herself more. Normally she's very cautious with her vote, but after I and others have kinda pressured her about this in the past, I think she's trying to change that. Again, I find this admirable, and I am disheartened that you are actually discouraging her this game when it seems to me she's putting a conscious effort in trying to adapt her playstyle a bit to be more effective. Looks to me like she's following her gut with her vote, and wasn't as concerned with how the trains were, which actually seems more townie to me. Hallia as scum prob wouldn't have put Mish to L-1 imo, as that would have seemed to stand out too much to her. Hallia as town trying to improve her play could have voted Mish to continue following her instincts. I got no problem with either of her votes so far.

 

I got more to say on this btw, but it will come later.

 

Hallia, on 23 Jan 2014 - 11:31 AM, said:

Yeah, I'm not a good player, but im working on it.

 

 

This made me really sad to see Hallia. You ARE a good player. You make a great scumbuddy (I've won 3 times with you, and seen you win as scum numerous other times), and your instincts are quite good. The only thing is- and the reason I've given you such a hard time in the past- your playstyle wasn't really that effective as town. Your instincts were good, but because you wouldn't be vocal enough, other players wouldn't really trust you enough to follow them. And towards endgame, when town needs to clear other townies as much as possible to avoid mislynching, you often kind of became an easy target for scum to push as a lynch because you really didn't contribute enough gameplay throughout the game.

 

So I don't think you were a bad player that needed to improve drastically, I just think you needed to vocalize your thoughts a bit more.

 

Tommyrod, on 23 Jan 2014 - 11:58 AM, said:

I'm surprised you had no additional commentary to make if you have been keeping up in real time.

 

Okay, get back to me.

 

Didn't like this post at all. Hallia posted from work saying she didn't have much time (and was prob on mobile), and you fos her for not saying more at the time? This pretty much completely confirmed for me that you are scum. Town Tommy wouldn't need to use such a tactic to strengthen his case on someone. You were using anything you could to make her look worse.

 

Tommyrod, on 23 Jan 2014 - 12:04 PM, said:

Golden, I cannot argue that I am similar as either alignment... the difference lies in who I am pushing. As town I push people I believe are scum. As scum I have to push people I know are town. I try to do so convincingly, and it's difficult. My warning to you not to rely on your meta knowledge of me is because I utilize similar logic and tactics and phrases as either alignment, and I will look scummy to you if you look for similar patterns. I am almost never cleared when I play as town for this reason... my scum meta follows me around like a lingering doubt. Anyway, I am glad to be town and a little out of the spotlight for once. I would like to hear your thoughts on Hallia given the commentary I just provided.

 

This is really just you saying that you're somehow immune to meta reads or something. Look- we're both similar somewhat in that we both keep our scum and town metas relatively close, and both of us can often look scummy as town. The thing is tho, there WILL still be some differences, even if they are extremely minor or something. No one is immune to meta. Granted, meta isn't all that reliable most of the time anyways, but that's why I find your responses to the whole meta thing to be so strange. I really feel like town Tommy would just tell GE he doesn't know you enough yet, or just shrug off the meta read entirely since it's unreliable anyways. Instead you seem to be too aware of how you defend yourself from the meta thing.

 

csarmi, on 23 Jan 2014 - 1:37 PM, said:

I like this new Hally so far, if that's what you're asking.

 

+1

 

Tommyrod, on 23 Jan 2014 - 1:40 PM, said:

 

GoldeneyesND, on 23 Jan 2014 - 1:37 PM, said:

 

Tommyrod, on 23 Jan 2014 - 1:24 PM, said:

How she plays it out? She just blatantly refused to acknowledge me at all.

 

She's well within her rights to do so. I am wary of "town leaders" that pop up and ask people for justifications and then make everyone comment on it. You're leading a witch-hunt on someone. I'm not willing to follow you anywhere because I believe you're scummy. Vote Mish/Tommy in 2014 people for co-leading a crusade against a player with  extremely weak reasoning. Tommy, no one needs to acknowledge you, you don't have some intrinsic game cred that compels people to answer you. 

 

THIS IS A GAMBIT TO PULL ATTENTION OFF OF MISH. DO NOT FALL FOR IT

 

I'm not scum. And if you're suspicious of "town leaders" -- why are you in agreement with Despot?

 

And I do have ample reasoning to be suspicious of Hallia. It's all there. In my posts. Just now. That you're avoiding.

 

 

Lol nice try redirecting focus to me- after you already backtracked on me as well. I tend to lead town in every game I'm in somewhat, but you're an even more vocal leader-type because you're awake during the day. I haven't been nearly as active as you this game.

 

csarmi, on 23 Jan 2014 - 5:20 PM, said:

I have a strong town read on Hally. The way she plays, the fights she fights, the style, the manner - looks good to me.

Also reading Tom as town. He seems to be trying to scumhunt for real. I like to think that a scum Tom would be less flexible in his play. Tunnel on players or agendas more.

Edging back and forth on Despo. Leaning town.

I'm reading Mish as towniesh. This is about what I'd expect from her.

No read on Peace, as he hasn't played at all.

Been wary of Alanna at all. This is basically a gut feeling. She posts rarely and the few posts she is making seem just too solid somehow.

Cloud. Cloud. He looks town. He seems to be doing what he says and saying what he does or however it should be said. He's become much more tricky lately (seen the mentoring last game :D), ehm, my biggest lead here is how he reacts when called out on why he says the "If A flips town then I know who to go after". Looks very sincere there and I think a maffia would try and twist that more.

 

I take great exception to a couple of your reads here Csarlami.

 

Bolded: whatwhatWHAT?! Tom has been tunneling Hallia pretty hardcore now for a little while. He's not really pursuing many other leads besides going back and forth with GE, he's attacking her on anything that comes up (even her saying she was at work and would respond later), and is an overeager beaver at trying to get others to focus/comment on her. And yet you think he's not tunneling??? Def makes me think a Tom/Cscumarlami scum pairing might be possible.

 

Underlined: Cloud is normally a LOT more active, that's discomforting just to begin with. And you liked his reaction to being called out for setting up lynches? I didn't think it was that good at all. He essentially tried answering it in a manner that would attract the least amount of attention, instead of turning into a protracted argument. I find this to be a lot more indicative of a scum alignment on Cloud in this case.

 

Tommyrod, on 23 Jan 2014 - 5:56 PM, said:

Salami, that's the kind of analysis I was waiting for. Golden couldn't have tried harder to make himself look scummy in our most recent exchange. I agree between him and Despot one of them should be scum. I'm guessing it's Golden -- almost everything he's done in his interactions with me has been ridiculous. Remember when he said I was being cute? Then he has me as lock scum with Mish as if a townie can't defend another townie? Tells me I'm scum pretending to be town leader to move people away from Mish when I'm just pointing out scummy behavior Hallia has done and he REFUSES to acknowledge any of it and acts like I'm an idiot?

 

It's all wayyyyyy too much. I thought I was going crazy when nobody else would comment on it.

 

Unvote Hallia

 

Vote Golden

 

PING. You wait till "someone else" (read: likely your teammate) to fos/case/vote GE, THEN you decide to vote for him, to try and give his train more momentum. Obvious much?

 

You also go back to thinking I could be scum after backtracking before, I don't like that.

 

But funniest part about this post to me is the enlargened portion I emphasized- scum slip? How do you KNOW Mish is town? I know you said you don't think she's likely to be scum, but are you that certain that you don't even consider it possible that she's scum now?

 

I know you'll likely say this is semantics, but I think town Tommy would have said "as if a townie can't defend someone he thinks is town"

 

peacesells, on 23 Jan 2014 - 8:18 PM, said:

Ok guys..sorry for my absence..working day shifts this week and it's been very difficult to participate from work.  And I don't spend too much time on the puter when at home with my wife.  Not fair to her considering my work schedule.

 

Good man. I'm sort of the same. Home = family time hehe. Good thing is, family time will often include her watching me play Left 4 Dead lol. What can I say- I'm a lucky guy!

 

 

peacesells, on 23 Jan 2014 - 8:35 PM, said:

What do you mean from this statement?  We've played 3 games together.  1 I was scum...and another I pegged you after your 2nd post as scum.  Your being emotional and throwing jabs at people is your flaw and scumtell.  You'd think you'd wrap it up.  It's amazing you give Despo crap about being emo when you are the much bigger queen.

 

I'm not sure the bolded is true- I thought the same thing after seeing him start off really calm and collected in his first game when he was cop. So I pushed his lynch in a game recently (in the BT I believe, might have been here), and he turned out to be town. And I witnessed him win a game as scum recently when he didn't really get emotional or aggressive once. Granted, he was the GF that game so might have played differently on purpose, but yeah either way I think it's faulty to say he's more emo as scum.

 

I think his first game was somewhat of an aberration when it comes to his style- he was prob always meant to be an aggressive type player, but that didn't come out at first when he was still getting comfortable playing.

 

peacesells, on 23 Jan 2014 - 10:57 PM, said:

 

GoldeneyesND, on 23 Jan 2014 - 9:19 PM, said:

Yes, you pegged me that game. Try reading the QT for that game sometimes brosef. I'll pass on the drama with you until Tommy, Mish and I have reasoned things through. I think you're still salty I think metal isn't music.

 

Metal isn't music.  It's a way of life. 

 

 

Preach it brother

 

\m/

 

Tommyrod, on 23 Jan 2014 - 11:32 PM, said:

 

GoldeneyesND, on 23 Jan 2014 - 8:29 PM, said:

Tommy, I'm back. If you have a question you want to ask I'll be available to answer now.

I'm not trying to be "cute" when I say that asking people to question you is a very wolfy thing to say. Wolves like to do that because it gives the impression of being active and invested while being reactive and not having to produce actual pro-active content. I am still comfortable with my vote on you because you have been overly melodramatic in this game and have purposefully tried to spin my reasoning into obscenely reduced versions of what I am actually saying while being a major hypocrite. 

 

This is actually somewhat of a decent point, first time I wavered somewhat in my stance on you two.

 

GE's response makes sense somewhat tho- that you prompted him to have a tete a tete with you later, and then when he mentions he's available for questioning, you fos him.

 

Hallia, on 24 Jan 2014 - 12:58 AM, said:

And I answered your questions, to which you didn't acknowledge.  Nice dodge there on your part sir!

 

Yeah gurl!

 

Tommyrod, on 24 Jan 2014 - 01:22 AM, said:

 

GoldeneyesND, on 24 Jan 2014 - 12:44 AM, said:

Yeah, I misunderstood the setup initially. Feel free to vote me. I believe strongly Mish and Tommy are scum. Tommy's reasoning is suspect, but he's managed to make the whole thing about people avoiding his sanctimonious line of questioning. The fact that Tommy seems incapable of understanding my issue is with him is ridiculous, I know he's intelligent enough to realize this. As such, the whole argument is obviously staged on his part to cover for Mish, who he's been white-knighting.

 

First part is whyme fryme, second part is pure hypocrisy.

 

Did you mean to say whyme fryme here? If so, you're misusing it, which is surprising for a veteran like yourself. You could say it's AtE mebbe, but whyme fryme only really applies when the player is only concerned with defending themselves, not fos'ing others. GE isn't really doing that here at all, and I think he's been pretty proactive as a scumhunter this game, pretty much exempting him from the whyme fryme card.

 

Your second point is valid however. Him calling you out for white knighting Mish when he could be seen as doing the same with Hallia could easily be construed as hypocrisy. I have said before tho, that being a hypocrite doesn't make you scum.

 

Tommyrod, on 24 Jan 2014 - 01:39 AM, said:

 

Hallia, on 24 Jan 2014 - 01:26 AM, said:

You're not answering me.

 

Didn't read your whole post tbh. 

 

Wtf is this crap?!?!?! You make such a big deal about Hallia not responding to you and ignoring you and everything for a while, then when she DOES give you a detailed response covering pretty much everything you've raised against her, you don't even read it all?

 

This makes zero sense if you were actually town. Town Tommy would have wanted to see and study her responses to see if they seemed more townie or scummie.

 

It shows you were more interested in lynching Hallia than lynching someone you thought was scum.

 

Hallia, on 24 Jan 2014 - 01:44 AM, said:

So you dog me all day, harass me about 'not answering you' and then you do the exact thing?  Just because you didn't want to bother to read?  Talk about others not being on their A game.  Disappointed.

 

Dayum Hallia I think I'm crushing on you this game. You're on fire!

 

 

 

Despothera, on 24 Jan 2014 - 05:47 AM, said:

Just to summarize my feelings/case on Tom right now-

 

Saw the early stuff linking him and Mish and thought it was scum-scum, and I'm now thinking it was scum-town and Tom was trying to buddy her.

 

The way Tom has responded to GE's meta read screams overcautious scum to me. Instead of just dismissing the meta read since they've played so little together, Tom first tries to say GE shouldn't use meta with him at all, then tries to say he doesn't know how town Tom plays, etc.

 

It seemed more than odd to me that Tom first voted me, then had a post where he asked me a few questions and backtracked on his scum read of me, just to pretty much go after low-hanging fruit in Hallia after that. Town Tommy wouldn't care enough to go after someone like Hallia at that point I believe, he'd want to get more reads on the vocal players first. After a few phases, THEN I could see him going after someone he thought wasn't contributing much at all.

 

His tunneling on Hallia doesn't feel right to me. Normally I see town Tom vote hopping a lot, pursuing multiple places for potential scummies to be hiding, he's downright frenetic as a scumhunter. Since going after Hallia however, he has pretty much only gone back and forth with GE a bit, and asked multiple people to look at Hallia.

 

Nudging GE as scum for a while, and then only voting him once Cscumarlami did as well pings majorly. What happened to all his concern for Hallia as scum? I know he's now saying he sees GE as a better chance for scum, but GE had acted pretty much the same to Tom throughout their argument. So why wait until someone else votes him first? Cause scum Tom saw the Hallia train wouldn't likely gain much traction, so felt he better switch targets.

 

Scum.

 

 

Despothera, on 24 Jan 2014 - 06:01 AM, said:

Prob more but eh that's good for now.

 

Thoughts on all players:

 

1. Peace - haven't seen enough yet, but gut tells me town for now

2. Tommy - Scum

3. Goldeneyes - Town

4. Hallia (mentored by Leelou) - most likely town, either way her swag is HAWT this game.

5. Csarmi - Middling scum read

6. Cloud - way off his meta. Not nearly loud enough. I want to review his posts.

7. Alanna - had an initial town read on her, now worried she's using the "don't like aggressive playstyles" thing to stay on the sidelines

8. Mish - had an initial scum read, and I've waffled a lot on her, but I'm thinking she's town now. Mostly because of how she took it for granted that others would assume her to be vanilla after she didn't claim. That kind of faulty logic (granted, a town PR will most likely claim at L-1, but a scummer won't) I don't see scum Mish pushing. Plus I'm now thinking Tom was buddying her as town.

13. Despo - Top Tier Town

 

 

Despothera, on 24 Jan 2014 - 09:17 AM, said:

I'll respond to the rest later, too tried right now. But Tommy, I did say MANY times that meta is fairly unreliable, and should pretty much never be the sole or primary push behind a case. And you're right, in somce ommunities, meta is relied upon too much.  I use it, but I don't put too much stock in it, it's one of many valuable scumhunting tools I like to employ.

 

One thing you're glossing over however: meta can be a great starting point to activate a game, and go from there. Scum will rarely slip up easily D1, and it's common for aggressive town leader types to tunnel on eachother and dominate the focus of the game. But using meta just helps give you kind of a good blanket starting point for everyone in the game, it becomes one of the first things that can stand out to you about them, and something you can start using to put their play in context. It's not like you're starting the game with X amount of blank personalities, and everything will be sorted out from slips alone or something. Everyone brings their own style to eha game, their own flair. I understand intelligent players know how to abuse their meta, I do it all the time in fact. But unless you play in a forum with nothing but alt games, you're always going to encounter meta. It's always going to be present in some fashion, even if it's left to the side a bit as more powerful scumhunting tools come into play.

 

As such, your crusade against it this game seems at best fruitless and a distraction, and at worst a clear attempt to discredit cases against you to make it easier to escape a noose.

 

 

Despothera, on 24 Jan 2014 - 09:55 AM, said:

Peace "clearing" you with meta was a joke. You seriously didn't pick up on that? Others did. Town Tom would have picked up on it.

 

 

Despothera, on 24 Jan 2014 - 09:56 AM, said:

Damn ninja Hallia

 

Above post was to Tommy

 

 

Despothera, on 24 Jan 2014 - 09:57 AM, said:

Hallia, what do you think about some other players besides the ones you've voted? Got any standout feelings on anyone else?

 

 

Despothera, on 24 Jan 2014 - 10:11 AM, said:

 

Tommyrod, on 24 Jan 2014 - 10:02 AM, said:

 

Despothera, on 24 Jan 2014 - 09:55 AM, said:

Peace "clearing" you with meta was a joke. You seriously didn't pick up on that? Others did. Town Tom would have picked up on it.

 

This is precisely what I'm talking about. Town Tom is right here. So I have a question for you:

 

Do you truly believe you understand me fully to the point that you can read my mind

 

Or

 

Are you scum purposefully using meta as a straw man argument?

 

 

Le sigh. You yet again miss an obvious joke. Oh well.

 

Tom, I've presented A LOT MOAR than meta against you. I have at times reasoned that I could see now rationale for you doing something as town, that's not meta my friend. It's using the powers of logic and common sense. If you're so worried this meta shiz is a straw man, go ahead and address the rest of my case and let the meta thing go.

 

 

 

3 of 3 

[Tommyrod]

*** HARD CLAIM ***

 

I'm the tracker

 

I think we've gotten a lot done for a D1; with a game this size my ability isn't too special, and the votes on me should be mostly scum, so let's wrap this up

 

I expect unvotes and scrambling post-haste as a hammer vote for me is a scum claim

 

Hey Peace

 

Vote for Golden to tie the lynches

[peacesells]

UNVOTE  VOTE GOLDEN.

 

I'd rather not have vote either of you two today.

[Tommyrod]

What happens in the event of a tie? Is it randed or no lynch?

[Andrej]

Vote Count 1.17

 

Goldeneyes (4) - Csarmi, Tommy, Cloud, Peace

Tommy (4) - GE, Despo, Hallia, Mish

 

Not Voting: Alanna

 

5 to lynch. Just over 3 hours until Nightfall.

 

What happens in the event of a tie? Is it randed or no lynch?

 

If majority is not reached, the game will proceed into Night.

[Tommyrod]

What I've noticed is that Despot and Golden are intriguingly in sync... despite not communicating with each other.

 

-Both decide to buddy and permanently clear Hallia early.

 

-Both decide Mish is scummy early for arguing with Hallia.

 

-Both attack me early.

 

-Both reference each other in their arguments.

 

But here's the kicker:

 

-Both have each other as town reads and use each other as talking points without communicating with each other.

 

Here are the players Despot has directly addressed or put suspicion on as of #200:

-Csarmi: #18 (Vote), #29, #92, #181, #183, #186

-Peace: #29, #174

-Tommy: #71, #92, #95, #107 (Vote), #164, #174

-Hallia: #71

-Allana: #71

-Mish: #71 (Vote), #164 (Vote), #167, #169, #174 (Unvote)

-Cloud: #92, #164

 

Here are the players Golden has directly addressed or put suspicion on as of #200:

-Tommy: #16 (Vote), #31, #45, #104, #121, #122, #124, #194, #197

-Hallia: #43, #175 [buddies both times]

-Mish: #43, #61 (Vote), #69, #175, #194

-Despot: #108 [Despot never responds!]

-Allana: #108

-Salami: #179

 

Here's Post #108 when Golden talks to Despot:

 

 

Hmmm. Mish's responses and Alanna's comments have swayed me somewhat.

 

Unvote, Vote Tom

 

Regardless of Mish's alignment may be, Tommy buddying her like that stinks to high heaven, and he keeps trying to reduce the case on him to being "weak", a common scum tactic. And his sideline snipe posts really bother me, how he keeps trying to look like he's staying active by asking people about their take on things, when in actuality he's not doing any actual scumhunting on his own.

 

Please elucidate us? Cause I'll admit I took Mish's first comment as a poorly worded joke at first, it was her reactions to pressure on it that gave me a scum read on her. At least if you're flipping you're choosing my other scum read though, so I don't feel like I'm potentially missing out on too much.  

 

Alanna, how is Mish just being Mish? I believe she's a good mafia player. Nonetheless, in the first five pages she has: misrepped, fos'd without voting, attempted to paint Hallia as overdefensive, used the misunderstood joke defense, claimed personal attacks on her in an attempt to misdirect.

I don't see her doing all those as town. I think she got flustered at the early attention and slipped.

Tommy trying to be cute again. If you're town, I find the obvi-misrepping of my statements a clumsy attempt to look smart. I find it more likely you're scum hoping to brush off some early attention and hoping that will keep you under the radar for the next few days.

 

Despot never responds.

 

Immediately after, Cloud also questions Despot:

 

Can you explain which responses from Mish managed to sway you away from your scum read on her and why?

Despot dodges Cloud's question, but at least acknowledges Cloud exists, he ignores Golden's question entirely.

 

 

 

 

Durn. Mish started fear mongering about lynches again. Looks like she was scum after all.

 

Unvote, Mish

 

Still don't like Tommy. He's fabricating a bunch of arguments out of thin air, stuff pike saying I'm too selective with my logic, he never really backed that up imo. Also think he's overplaying the "you'll have to convince me you're town" thing and I don't see town Tommy coming in here and voting and fosing people for "bombastic" play early, which imo is a lot more indicative of town alignment.

 

@Cloud: still somewhat null on you

 

Scum reads on Tom and Mish, town reads on GE, Hallia, and Alanna atm

Golden never follows up on it. His next post is attacking Mish and buddying Hallia again.

 

Do you see a problem here? As of post #200, the only communication Golden and Despot have had with each other is Golden asking Despot one question that Despot did not even respond to and Golden never asked for follow up on.

 

Yet if you look at Despot's posts, he repeatedly references points GE made as justification. Here's a good example of that: http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/87151-basic-blood-moon-mafia-day-1/page-4?do=findComment&comment=3139243

 

Could these two players really be in that good a sync about a case that I think was bogus to begin with? Would both players insta-clear Hallia for the entire D1 and suck up to her? Would both players continue switching between only Mish and myself as suspects for the entirety of D1, as if there's absolutely nobody else who could be scummy in this game?

 

Even with the best of coincidences, I find it very difficult to believe they are both town; and I wouldn't be at all surprised if they are both scum.

[Tommyrod]

I feel reasonably good clearing the following:

 

-Salami

-Cloud

-Peace

 

Don't see any of them being scum.

 

That leaves, in my personal order of suspicion:

 

-Golden

-Despot

-Hallia

-Miah

-Allana

 

If jailkeeper is able to block at least one kill, I think we can just lynch down that list and win the game.

[Tommyrod]

Golden:



Despot:



Hallia:



Mish:



Allana:



Peace:



Salami:



Cloud:

 

Hey mafia:

[Alanna]

Lolz. I take it all back Tommy, you are the best :D

 

Anyway, I'm still not sure how I feel between Tommy or Golden, but no one else has jumped in and we're an hour from deadline. Tommy's claim could very well be false, but it's uncontested so far, so it'd be dumb to lynch him.

 

Vote Golden.

[Hallia]

Grats on that.  Your first one drops the F-bomb though, might wanna change it

[Tommyrod]

Oh I keep forgetting this place is censored

Permission to edit?

[Andrej]

Oh I keep forgetting this place is censored

 

Permission to edit?

 

Lol go for it.

[Andrej]

Final Count 1

 

Goldeneyes (5) - Csarmi, Tommy, Cloud, Peace, Alanna

Tommy (4) - GE, Despo, Hallia, Mish

 

Not Voting:

 

Scene incoming.

[csarmi]

Morning.

[Andrej]

The discovery of the dead body shook the solitary town of High Peak to its core. The people here had seen failed crops, harsh weather and the occasional killing of herd animals from predatory wildlife. But nothing like this. After unearthing the frozen corpse, it was apparent that no animal could've done such a thing. A solemn group gathered around the blanket-covered mound in a state of paranoid worry. Eyes flitted from one person to the next and it seemed that each person was trying to inch away from the one they stood beside. Soon arguments broke out, curses and accusations were thrown about. The people were at each other's throats until finally the angry mob turned to one in particular. Something about his mannerisms seemed off. He had trouble meeting everyone's eyes, and as the hours passed and the sun slowly crept downwards towards the horizon they back more and more sure. He was responsible. He had to be.

 

In a rage two of the men grabbed him by each arm, holding him firmly as shouts and cries for the man's blood rang out through the square. A thunderous crack resounding, cutting through the air like a blade and silencing them all.

 

The accused man now slumped in his captors' grip, a red stain blossoming from the front of his coat. His head hung lazily as each man dropped him in sudden fright. All eyes turned to a lone man standing not too far off as he lowered a hunting rifle from his shoulder, the barrel still smoking.

 

"Return to your homes for the night, and lock up tight! I have the feeling this is only the beginning."

 

A stunned silence hung over the people of High Peak as they slowly dissipated. Off in the distance, the moon slowly rose above the mountain's summit, a villainous red orb in the darkening sky that promised more blood would be spilt.

 

Goldeneyes - Town Villager has been lynched.

 

It is now Night 1. You have until 10PM PST tomorrow to submit your Night Actions or they will be forfeited.

 

[Hallia]

Ahem.  Told you guys.

[Tommyrod]

Tsk tsk. I really didn't think he'd hard defend Hallia like that as a townie. In my case, I was teetering on the scum line to attract heat before I claimed.  

I suggest going down my list. Despot next. He was looking the worse of the two by the time I made that comparison of them, but there wasn't time to move the votes. 

[hazelkrs1]

Lol just finished catching up.

 

For the real Tracker out there- don't bother CC'ing. Tommy is OBVISCUM and will surely die for it. Waiting to claim till hours before the deadline when it was fairly obvious Tom had a good chance of getting lynched for a WHILE is extremely antitown, and Tom has been dropping even MOAR scumtells lately.

 

Anddd time to go back and fashion my wot together.

 

[hazelkrs1]

Tsk tsk. I really didn't think he'd hard defend Hallia like that as a townie. In my case, I was teetering on the scum line to attract heat before I claimed.  

 

I suggest going down my list. Despot next. He was looking the worse of the two by the time I made that comparison of them, but there wasn't time to move the votes. 

 

 

HAHAHAHAHAHA.... NO.

 

Keep quiet scum. It will all be over soon.

[Tommyrod]

Lol just finished catching up.

 

For the real Tracker out there- don't bother CC'ing. Tommy is OBVISCUM and will surely die for it. Waiting to claim till hours before the deadline when it was fairly obvious Tom had a good chance of getting lynched for a WHILE is extremely antitown, and Tom has been dropping even MOAR scumtells lately.

 

Anddd time to go back and fashion my wot together.

 

 

This makes me feel better about the miss on Golden.

[Hallia]

Is it day yet? I wanna vote Tom again.

[Tommyrod]

Anyone who fake counter-claims me is just assuring they will be lynched.

 

I didn't claim until I was at L-1 because I usually don't claim PRs if possible; why give scum the upper hand? Claiming needlessly is very anti-town. But tracker isn't terribly important in a game this small, and it served the purpose it needed to: allowed me to see who would take my bait and try to bury me.

I'll note that Despot and Hallia were nice and quiet until the flip, although they were apparently here the whole time, saw my hard claim, and still didn't move votes.

Don't get WIFOMed on this, it's pretty simple. I've basically solved the game for you. 

[Hallia]

Because I don't believe your claim sir.