[Advanced] Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy Mafia (Day 6 - Town Wins)

[Niniel]

I'm sorry for not posting more the last day. My daughter has kept me awake in the nights with her coughing and I'm exhausted. I hope to be able to contribute more tomorrow, if I'm still alive.

[Pralaya]

Stop parroting that Turin was the obvious lynch. He wasn't. He seemed town and that is the reason I did not vote him either of the two days. You just had a wrong read as you do most of the times.

 

Mish seemed scum and I was wrong. I admit it but it happens.

 

Csarmi seems obvious scum now and his protecting of Tina that she is town, just based on Des' cop read when everyone was saying Des could be a naive cop, seems supicious. 

[Pralaya]

Stop parroting that Turin was the obvious lynch. He wasn't. He seemed town and that is the reason I did not vote him either of the two days. You just had a wrong read like you do most of the times.

 

Mish seemed scum and I was wrong. I admit it but it happens.

 

Csarmi looks like the obvious scum now and his protecting of Tina that she is town, just based on Des' cop read when everyone was saying Des could be a naive cop, seems supicious. 

[hazelkrs1]

Turin WAS the obvious lynch choice. And it wasn't based off my "read". One flipped mafioso had defended his slot day 1, and Turin himself heavily fought against another mafioso's lynch another day.

 

And my reads aren't always right, but I'm not afraid to be wrong at times if talking about my reads helps promote more discussion which can in turn help catch scum. You otoh have barely contributed this game man.

[hazelkrs1]

@Tina: im sorry you haven't been able to get much sleep lately, hope your daughter gets better soon.

 

In the meantime, can you give us any thoughts you might have? If you die without giving any that could be a loss for us.

 

Unless of course you're scum, which im starting to lean towards.

[Pralaya]

Turin WAS the obvious lynch choice. And it wasn't based off my "read". One flipped mafioso had defended his slot day 1, and Turin himself heavily fought against another mafioso's lynch another day.

 

 

Isn't that what scum are supposed to do? Misdirect? Doesn't make it obvious. Can make you feel that he is scum but parroting the nonsense that it was obvious is just stupid.

[hazelkrs1]

What can I say, it was obvious imo. Turin is too good of a player to normally flub up that bad. Mafia like to be subtle, but can hide behind the "That would be WAY too obvious for scum!" ploy all day if you let them.

[csarmi]

@Despo: yup that's what I thought too and why I stayed clear of jailing any of you with a PR claim (jailing denies information either by roleblocking, or by just preventing NK and thus denying flip info).

[Pralaya]

@Des That is exactly your problem. Instead of looking why you made the mistake, you put the blame on others.

 

"I misread Verbal and he flipped town. Verbal played really bad this game"

"I thought Turin was scum but he turned out to be town. H flubbed up bad"

 

Been seeing it in the past couple of games. 

[csarmi]

Quite true about Des.

 

Pretty sure you ain't gonna be making any mistake Pray. Just make sure you miss the deadline, tg lynch or just vote an outlier and you sure not gonna mislynch anyone.

[hazelkrs1]

@Des That is exactly your problem. Instead of looking why you made the mistake, you put the blame on others.

 

"I misread Verbal and he flipped town. Verbal played really bad this game"

"I thought Turin was scum but he turned out to be town. H flubbed up bad"

 

Been seeing it in the past couple of games.

You might have a point about me in general (and one which has been levied at me in the past), but in this case Verb and Turin DID misplay. Verb cause he botched his claim (15 mins before deadline), and Turin for fighting a mafia lynch so strongly (Darthe pretty much never towntelled whatsoever) and tunneling me the past few days.

[Andrej]

This is a dumb argument.

 

Buckle down the hatches boys, we're at Lylo tomorrow.

 

Please give your reads now in case you don't survive the morning.

 

To reiterate: CS, Tina, JS/Pral

[csarmi]

Pral/JS

AJ

Tina/Despo

[Pralaya]

CS, Tina, JS

[csarmi]

@AJ - give our lists so that the maffia can pick the best target to kill?

[Andrej]

No, give your lists so that Town can have info if one of us dies. Knowing who you thought were suspicious if you flip as a Townie is always valuable IMO.

 

Now if the mafia picks off the person who is closest, that's just WIFOM for us to sip on tomorrow. We'll see how it goes when Day starts.

[csarmi]

Sure.

 

I still believe Despo is a cop and I'm almost certainly sure Peace viewed AJ.

I don't think Peace got blocked that night as Rags must have been blocked (been through this) and his talk with AJ after the hammer is quite indicative in my opinion.

 

I trust Tina more than the other two.

 

Switch Tina and AJ in that list above, actually.

 

JS/Pral

Tina

AJ/Despo

[csarmi]

@AJ - care to show me where I wanted to get Lenlo lynched on the day I claimed JK?

 

I don't remember such an event.

[Andrej]

I placed Cloud as town after Verbal didn't flip scum.

 

Then he gets night killed and flips godfather. Wow.

 

Nice shooting.

 

I'll have to reread to figure out what's going on. For the record, both Rag's and Darthe's claims sound fishy to me.

 

Darts cause seriously... Town RBx1 and blocking someone with a kill on N1? Just stretches credulity.

 

Rags cause I have a hard time buying another town player with kill, and because his target selection doesn't seem logical to me as a pritown move... only in hindsight.

 

I found this going back. This was your post after Rag's initial reveal... you actually compliment him on the shot. Later you go on to give alternate reasons as to why you doubt his claim. It seems you're still giving it room to be true although at this point (by what you claimed) you should've known he was blatantly lying.

 

Actually I think Len disappeared completely.

 

OK, I'm inactive as hell too, pot & kettle, I know. But I mean, he just haven't even posted for days.

 

This is his last post here:

 

 

No wonder you don't drink.

Truly shocking. It still doesnt change how bad it tastes though.

 

His last login to DM was 12 hours ago. He was completely inactive on DM, however, in fact, he only posted once since the 23rd... on the 27th of november.

 

Now Len does like to disappear as scum to hide. Same when he's being town under pressure too.

 

But I don't think that's what's going on here. He just went plain inactive. Null tell there.

 

 

You never actually say "Let's lynch Lenlo" but these were the posts where you kind of brought him out of the blue as if to turn attention his way. We know that Turlo was Town, like I said earlier.

 

And ignored.

 

Leelou, Rag,_____

 

Maybe len or des.

 

Book it.

 

Thought this was interesting on re-read. Here's Darthe's fake list of scum reads. We've got 2 conf-Townies and a 3rd with Des as our Cop. I feel better about JS after this post as well.

 

Those he leaves off: CS, Tina, Pral.

[John Snow]

My reads are that Des and CS are scum. We have no proof that there are 2 cops and docs. CS we practically have screaming evidence that he is not a JK. IMO Des and CS are pulling a con on all of you, and you're all blindly following. 

[csarmi]

@AJ: I think its quite clear from that post what I mean. So I'm not gonna repeat it. For the record, I don't think anyone should be allowed not to post for note than a week, no matter the reasons. Unfair own those playing, no matter their alignments.

 

As for Rags yea I hoped he'd die without a hassle, then I wasnt much around and came the cops argument. I understand that you find my timing scummy, but I would do it the same way again.

[WWWwombat]

Despo was fuming in his office.  This was all going to bloody hell.  He was surrounded by incompetents.  He couldn't catch the remaining Soviets if his own kept distracting him from them.  Smiley shouldn't have been such a blundering moron.  And his boys Guillam and Tarr were no better.  Now they were all dead.  Idiots.  Despo would lead the Service out of this morass even if he had to knock them all out and drag them to do it.  Karla had gotten the better of him once, but Karla was dead and all that remained was to sweep up the mess.

 

The door to Despo's office opened.  He turned to bite the head off of whoever had disturbed him.  A bright flashlight shone in his eyes.

 

"Who's there?  Put that down!  Show yourself!  How dare you!"

 

The last word had barely left his mouth when a bullet entered it.

 

 

 

 

 

Despo, Percy Alleline, Town Cop, has been killed.

 

It is now Day 6.  With 5 remaining, it takes 3 to lynch.

[Andrej]

Hmm, well shit.

 

Okay, so Tina is cleared then.

 

That leaves CS, Pral, JS.

[hazelkrs1]

Go town!

[Andrej]

My reads are that Des and CS are scum. We have no proof that there are 2 cops and docs. CS we practically have screaming evidence that he is not a JK. IMO Des and CS are pulling a con on all of you, and you're all blindly following. 

 

Who would be your 2nd pick now?