[Basic] The Walking Dead Mafia - Game Over. Theo Wins!

[Babar Hasan Khan]

 

 

It's possible that AJ left Rick out on purpose to see if any of the Mafia would dare claim it, so no, although I'm a little easier about you, you're not 'confirmed'. 

y would AJ need to see anything??

 

ok, see was a bad choice of words.  Allow that opportunity

 

 

 

Ok, I don't see any point in not claiming now.  I'm Hershel and I'm VT

 

So that gives us a full claims list of:

 

 

Confirmed Claims:

Lenlo: Maggie Green (town lover)

Pral: Glen Rhee (town lover)

Nolder: Daryl Dixon (VT)

Leelou: Michonne (VT)

Dap: Lori Grimes (VT)

Ishy: Philip Blake/The Governor (claimed: Morgan, third party) (goon)

Golden: Carl Grimes (cop)

 

Claims:

Des: Andrea (VT)

Peace: T-dog (bomb)

Dora: Shane (VT)

Mish: Carol Peletier (doc)

Err: Rick Grimes (VT?)

BFG: Hershel Greene (VT)

i find it very interesting that u passively make a claim of character... last one to do it... and i am the only one here with a ?  with VT....... i think my theory of Des and u being mafia might not be that off 

 

 

Because I filled yours in from memory and couldn't remember when I was typing if you'd claimed vanilla or not

 

oh k... its vanilla no special role

[Babar Hasan Khan]

 

Plus..that shows that if scum, I would have just hammered her.  Very easy to slide by. 

hmm.... its kind of true too... u did vote 1 hour before the deadline and u voted leelou it could have been easier to hammer.... i went through the posts again and i m thinking hard on the following

 

one hour before the deadline D3:

Leelou (5) - Goldeneyes, Err, Dap, Theodora, Peace

Theodora (5) - Despo, Leelou, Mish, Ishy, BFG

 

lets look at this again.... lets say theos vote doesnt count for a minute cause it could be in self preservation... 

 

then 

a) If Theo is a mafia then Theo and peace are mafia together (even if it seems unlikely since Ishy is on theo train... but lets put it under bussing for a while)

b) if Peace is towny...... then all mafia votes are on theo... that would make her a towny too

 

 

conclusion: peace and theo are in the same team... weather towny or scum

 

so its actually wrong of me to suspect one and not the other...

 

i am inclined to believe that peace and theo could be a towny pair..... couple of reasons.... both made character claims directly or indirectly in day 1.... to big of a risk at the start just incase someone counter claims

 

that leaves Des, Mish and BFG

 

if Mish is a doctor then remaining two mafias are Des and BFG

if Mish is not a doctor then my money will be on Des and Mish

 

in both cases we have Des and the common factor... so killing him seems like an optimal option...

 

i am inclined to vote for Des now

 

yup yup yup.... i think theo and peace are one team (most likely townys) 

 

and since dora was going against peace D1 and first half of D2 means they couldnt be mafia together most likely

 

 

its either Des, Mish, BFG

 

Des is the most likely candidate now

 

btw this has become really confusing at the end.... in each reread there are times when every possible pair i can think of comes out looking scummier.... k night people.... it has been an interesting game

[michellem]

Ok I've googled the characters, and the ones that stick out to me are:

 

Peace, with his T-bone claim: I don't see how his character should be a bomb. The only connection I could find to him and explosives was a science lab exploding, and he wasn't the one setting the building to explode as far as I can understand.

 

Des, with Andrea: She doesn't seem to be a very important character, and she had a relationship to a guy that's a mafia character here.

 

These two feels like fake claims to me. Characters that are around enough to be known, but they don't feel like main main characters to me.

 

Dora, with Shane: Seems to be a conflicted character that it's hard to define if should be town or mafia.

 

 

I say we take Peace today. I cannot see how his character works with his claim.

[BFG]

 

 

Vote Dap.

Why?

Mainly to prode him to be active.

 

 

http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/86079-basic-the-walking-dead-mafia-day-4/?view=findpost&p=3089767

 

Ishy's already voting people that are inactive yet Des picks up on (and prods) Leelou for voting inactives (although this is in response to a direct question asking his opinion on Leelou), but he's also voting Lenlo for slowing down Day 1 (or trying to) 

 

 

 

 

 

 

There are a number of contradictions in Des's play, but this isn't necessarily a mafia tell for him.

 

 

 

 

 

The buddying posts pointed out by Des earlier:

 

^^This guy is being coached in a QT, bank on it. He'll be getting my vote tomorrow. And who does it appear that he and his scummates want gone? Think about it for a minute.

 

So with that being said, makes me feel that scum are pushing a big game hunting agenda and I won't bite.

 

Defends Des

 

Pretty sure Des was at L-2 or L-3 when he claimed, that wasn't all that early. Theo on the other hand, claimed far too early, and with no pressure at all. That is a little concerning, yeah.

 

And again, Des was at L4.

 

 

Quick question. What does the phrase "big game hunting" refer to?

It's when the better-known, traditionally better players are targetted for kills, whether via lynching or night kills.

 

 

Think Ishy answering questions is a null tell, he answered questions for all of us.

 

For reference Des says bussing is in his mafia meta, so him voting Peace/Dora doesn't necessarily rule them out as teammates, I'm not so sure about Ishy's.

http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/86079-basic-the-walking-dead-mafia-day-4/?view=findpost&p=3096875

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

For the moment I think I'm edging towards Ishy/Peace/Des. 

 

If you look at Day 3 (initial reads before Ishy reveal): 

Peace: Err, Dora, Ishy (Dora now included because of Shane claim and a non-zombie kill last night, possibly Des)

(Mish votes Dora)

Ishy: BFG, Peace, Dora (prods Dora)

Golden says investigation sucks

Des: Dora, BFG, Peace (votes/pushes Dora)

 

At this stage they only needed 1 more vote, at this stage having each other as 'reads' doesn't matter one way or another, they just needed one more person to agree on Dora.

 

But I need to sleep on this as Dora & Err are tied together as well.

 

 

[Andrej]

Deadline in 24 hours.

[BFG]

(apologies for formatting, I'm cutting and pasting from word and it seems to have screwed up the font size)

 

So this is as concise a summary as I can make on my notes:

 

Ignoring claims (on the whole) as it’s obvious that people are lying.

 

Rereading the thread I find Des’s & Err’s overall actions (as individuals) to be the most suspicious. 

 

Des misrepresents arguments on several people; his summary on me from Day 1 ignores several posts that I made, when linking Err and Ishy he brings up posts where Ishy helpfully answers Errs (although Des does also say that it’s not just the Q&A it’s the fact that Ishy points out that Err is overplaying newbie card but also answering questions, which is different from me and Golden) questions and ignores the ones where he does so with Golden and myself, he misses Peaces vote on Err Day 2.  Pushes for a fast lynch on Day 3 (when a mislynch likely leads to mafia victory), and when Golden implies a Townie viewing brings up the possibility of Dora being GF (for which there seem to be 2 reasons:  Peace & I scrambled to save Dora, so Dora must be a GF, circles round to Dora is a GF so Peace & I must have scrambled to save her, and also because there's a real possibility that Shane is an anti-town character (even assuming that she's telling the truth about being Shane), however since the Governor wasn't GF, Andrea would seem to be the more likely candidate and you could argue that revealing Andrea (under very little pressure, was an attempt to draw the viewing in the way that he accuses Dora of doing).  However, if you assume that Des is Town and strongly believes that Dora/Peace/myself are a team then his actions do make sense (however ridiculous they seem to me, shrugs)  I am reading Des as slightly townie today (but am wary that may just be because he’s stopped tunnelling Dora/Peace/myself as a team)

 

Err – the argument hasn’t changed much.  His knowledge level seems all over the place.  Night 1 he seems to not understand what’s meant by majority lynch and uses this to push Golden hard on Day 2 (e.g. http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/86079-basic-the-walking-dead-mafia-day-4/?p=3092113), this seems unusual in somebody that plays mafia (especially since he’s read the rules enough to know that self-voting/no-lynches are alive, and in the rules AJ states that if a majority isn’t reached then we continue into night (or something like that)).  His vote train analysis seems questionable, as does his seeming to follow Golden on views about people (copying the most confirmed townie that we have) – i.e. starts defending Dora after Golden does, when golden pushes Err about Des he changes his mind and starts including him in his potential mafia teams…  He was practically silent Day 1 then becomes active during Night (when playing live, means that Town has nothing to do or say at night).  There’s also a post here (http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/86079-basic-the-walking-dead-mafia-day-4/?p=3091478) when he seems to know that it’s a governor mafia team (but that may be lost in the translation).  There are several instances where he seems to try directing Town play (stop voting Golden, stop voting Ishy, Doc must protect cop…).  I’m not sure how much of this I can put down to being new to online play, maybe in RL people don’t bus each other as much, which would explain his view on the trains…  Against this is his claim, Rick is likely to be in the game and no one else has claimed him, however it's not beyond the realms of possibility that AJ left Rick purposefully blank to allow the mafia team the 'opportunity' of claiming a strong town character...

 

 

 

People suggesting complications to the game:

 

Err: resurrection http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/86079-basic-the-walking-dead-mafia-night-3/?p=3088055

Peace: symp character http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/86079-basic-the-walking-dead-mafia-day-4/?p=3090031

Des: first mention of roleblocker http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/86079-basic-the-walking-dead-mafia-day-4/?p=3090608 i.e. mafia have GF or RB

Peace: claims bomb (bomb claim is consistent with how he acted end Day 1, but doesn’t explain why he wasn’t NK)

Peace: brings up SK http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/86079-basic-the-walking-dead-mafia-day-4/?p=3092464

Ishy introduces RB http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/86079-basic-the-walking-dead-mafia-day-4/?p=3095450

And then Mish brings it up as a possibility in her explanation to Err Day 4

 

 

Possible teams in the next post.

 

 

 

[BFG]

Possible teams (most likely to least likely):

 

Ishy, Des, Peace – On Day 1 Des was voting for Peace, but Peace seemed reluctant to vote for Des (pointed out by Nolder Night 1), Des states he’s willing to bus, so him voting Peace appears to be null.  There’s a strange post from Peace where he states that either he or Des will get lynched on a late runup to deadline, when if he was the bomb he has a claim that makes it unlikely he’d be lynched.  There’s also something iffy about Peaces claim – Ishy prods for a claim, Des then prods for a full claim, meh, sounds weird.

Des also argues against the idea of voting for someone to hammer Peace by stating its gadgeting.

Des/Ishy’s reads and argument are also very similar.  Ishy introduces the possible team, Golden suggests that he had a townie view back and Des suggests that Dora may be GF based on that.  Again, the reads are almost too close, but given that we were in a position of one mislynch (and still are) maybe they went ‘all in’ to get a mislynch.  Note that Mish was already voting Dora as was Des, Ishy’s intent was fairly clear and Peace (previously against the lynch) was now coming round to the idea that Dora could be Mafia, they only needed one more vote from either Golden, Err or myself…

However, I wonder if Des would defend Peace so obviously if they were on the same team?   I’m also getting a marginally stronger Town read from Des today then previously (but that may just be because he’s stopped tunnelling Peace/Dora/myself as a team)

 

Ishy, Peace, Err –probably equal with the above in terms of likelihood. Peace votes Err Day 2, but with (to me) poor logic (which is strange because otherwise most of his posts seem logical to me).  He reasons that Err was trying to push a lynch on the cop, but if Err was mafia then he’s more likely to back off, stop the cop from revealing on thread and NK him since he may not have doc protection if he hadn’t claimed on thread.  The shaky logic makes me wonder if it was a distancing vote.  Ishy had Peace in his mafia reads which links him with townies.  Err seems mafia to me (see above)

 

 

Ishy, Des, Err – I find this more unlikely as Des is pushing Err pretty hard atm.  Mafia need 1 mislynch to win, I find it unlikely that Des would be pushing for this, given that there is very little agreement between players on a likely mafia team it would be ‘easy’ for Des to push someone else to help gain a mislynch for the Mafia to win.  However I don’t think it’s beyond Des to try a gambit like this

 

 

 

Ishy, Des, Dora – Des pushes hard for Dora’s lynch, but this would be a null tell in and of itself (as he states he will bus as mafia and with the attention Dora was getting would be a good candidate for it)

 

Ishy, Dora, Err –There are several links between Dora/Err in the first couple of Days and blatant ones in the latter days (including them both stating the other as Town without successfully explaining why), Dora votes Ishy as a ‘joke’. 

 

Ishy, Peace, Dora – Dora was voting for Peace Day 1 (when there was a chance he’d be lynched) and Day 2 (when there wasn’t).  But her initial ‘joke’ vote was on Ishy.  Peaces vote on Leelou on Day 2 swung the momentum to Leelou instead…  I also don’t think it impossible that Ishy would bus a teammate, however when he voted he could have joined Errs train instead

 

 

 

 

On Ishy, Mish (in general) – At the end of Day 1 Mish follows Ishy on to voting Lenlo.  At this point both Des & Peace have trains of 4 on them.  If both Ishy/Mish are mafia then at least one of those 2 is Town.  So it doesn’t make much sense to me that they would both start a train with less than 24 hours to deadline on a townie, when one or both could join a train on a Townie that already existed.  This, plus Mish’s stated ‘intent’ to vote instead of actually voting Golden, her defence on my case (in Weasley game Des says that Mish is ‘wordy’ as Mafia, her response to me is to the point) (and her claim of Carol/doc makes sense to me) make me think Mish is Town.  That rules out the following possible teams:

 

Ishy, Des, Mish

Ishy, Peace, Mish

Ishy, Mish, Err

Ishy, Dora, Mish

 

[BFG]

Added to above, although it should be obvious I'm currently willing to vote Peace/Err/Des but would prefer for either Des/Err to hammer Peace (think Err has already indicated he's willing to do this).

 

And where is everyone, 24 hours to deadline, we're at lylo (again) and nobodies talking!

[Theodora]

Possible teams (most likely to least likely):

 

Ishy, Des, Peace – On Day 1 Des was voting for Peace, but Peace seemed reluctant to vote for Des (pointed out by Nolder Night 1), Des states he’s willing to bus, so him voting Peace appears to be null.  There’s a strange post from Peace where he states that either he or Des will get lynched on a late runup to deadline, when if he was the bomb he has a claim that makes it unlikely he’d be lynched.  There’s also something iffy about Peaces claim – Ishy prods for a claim, Des then prods for a full claim, meh, sounds weird.

Des also argues against the idea of voting for someone to hammer Peace by stating its gadgeting.

Des/Ishy’s reads and argument are also very similar.  Ishy introduces the possible team, Golden suggests that he had a townie view back and Des suggests that Dora may be GF based on that.  Again, the reads are almost too close, but given that we were in a position of one mislynch (and still are) maybe they went ‘all in’ to get a mislynch.  Note that Mish was already voting Dora as was Des, Ishy’s intent was fairly clear and Peace (previously against the lynch) was now coming round to the idea that Dora could be Mafia, they only needed one more vote from either Golden, Err or myself…

However, I wonder if Des would defend Peace so obviously if they were on the same team?   I’m also getting a marginally stronger Town read from Des today then previously (but that may just be because he’s stopped tunnelling Peace/Dora/myself as a team)

 

Ishy, Peace, Err –probably equal with the above in terms of likelihood. Peace votes Err Day 2, but with (to me) poor logic (which is strange because otherwise most of his posts seem logical to me).  He reasons that Err was trying to push a lynch on the cop, but if Err was mafia then he’s more likely to back off, stop the cop from revealing on thread and NK him since he may not have doc protection if he hadn’t claimed on thread.  The shaky logic makes me wonder if it was a distancing vote.  Ishy had Peace in his mafia reads which links him with townies.  Err seems mafia to me (see above)

 

 

Ishy, Des, Err – I find this more unlikely as Des is pushing Err pretty hard atm.  Mafia need 1 mislynch to win, I find it unlikely that Des would be pushing for this, given that there is very little agreement between players on a likely mafia team it would be ‘easy’ for Des to push someone else to help gain a mislynch for the Mafia to win.  However I don’t think it’s beyond Des to try a gambit like this

 

 

 

Ishy, Des, Dora – Des pushes hard for Dora’s lynch, but this would be a null tell in and of itself (as he states he will bus as mafia and with the attention Dora was getting would be a good candidate for it)

 

Ishy, Dora, Err –There are several links between Dora/Err in the first couple of Days and blatant ones in the latter days (including them both stating the other as Town without successfully explaining why), Dora votes Ishy as a ‘joke’. 

 

Ishy, Peace, Dora – Dora was voting for Peace Day 1 (when there was a chance he’d be lynched) and Day 2 (when there wasn’t).  But her initial ‘joke’ vote was on Ishy.  Peaces vote on Leelou on Day 2 swung the momentum to Leelou instead…  I also don’t think it impossible that Ishy would bus a teammate, however when he voted he could have joined Errs train instead

 

 

 

 

On Ishy, Mish (in general) – At the end of Day 1 Mish follows Ishy on to voting Lenlo.  At this point both Des & Peace have trains of 4 on them.  If both Ishy/Mish are mafia then at least one of those 2 is Town.  So it doesn’t make much sense to me that they would both start a train with less than 24 hours to deadline on a townie, when one or both could join a train on a Townie that already existed.  This, plus Mish’s stated ‘intent’ to vote instead of actually voting Golden, her defence on my case (in Weasley game Des says that Mish is ‘wordy’ as Mafia, her response to me is to the point) (and her claim of Carol/doc makes sense to me) make me think Mish is Town.  That rules out the following possible teams:

 

Ishy, Des, Mish

Ishy, Peace, Mish

Ishy, Mish, Err

Ishy, Dora, Mish

BFG, I do not understand the coloured text. If Mish is wordy when mafia in meta and you are inclined to give her a clean slate, why is Mish in the all the four "possible scum teams". is it by mistake or you mean something else?

[BFG]

Not a mistake.  The bit above your green text is what I think of all the other possibilities.  When I started writing it I wanted to talk about all possible teams so listed all of them.  However the teams that included Mish all ended up at the bottom for similar reasons so I summarized them in the green text and left the teams in for reference sake.

[BFG]

And lunch is now over, but I'll respond when I can later.

[Theodora]

I want to comment on the claims. There are two ways Err is lying:

1. We have a very sneaky Mod with a very dark sense of humour who has provided a scum (all or Err only) with a legitimate major fake claim like Rick

2. We know all the claims with BFG being last so if Err claimed fake Rick with only one unknown character (BFG at the time), then he and BFG know their characters and are both scum

 

Both Err and BFG do a lot of scum search posts which makes them either super evil scum or pro-town. At this stage, I am leaning on pro-town from both.

 

All the main arc characters are there, only Merle Dixon is not present and having characters like Michone and Maggie or Glenn, Merle is lurking somewhere here. He is the classical bad guy for those not following the show (you can google, etc).

 

At these stage I am leaning mostly towards Despo and not only because of his claim, then Peace. I already stated my opinion, beginning of the day.

[hazelkrs1]

I've been rolling this game through my head a lot lately. Don't think I've ever been as indecisive at this point of a game before. Very frustrating.

 

Personally, I don't think the character claims will help us. First of all, I'm not much of a fan of using character claims to win in a themed game, feels cheap. Moreover, looking at the list of claims:

 

Peace - T-Dog

Des - Andrea

BFG - Hershel ()

Mish - Carol

Theo - Shane

Err - Rick

 

Pretty much all of those are major characters throughout the series. Only one I would be iffy about whether or not he'd be in the game is T-Dog, and AJ posting that pic of T-Dog earlier... kinda makes me think he IS in the game. There's two characters on that list with somewhat questionable alignment- Andrea and Shane, altho Shane would be MUCH more likely to be scum imo than Andrea (and trust me, I friggin hated Andrea, and cheered her last episode, but I don't think she was ever a bad guy. She just had crappy judgement, and was frakking annoying). Since I know I'm town, however, it can't be judged based solely on that. It could be Theo and Peace for the remaining scum I guess, seeing as T-Dog seems like the least likely to be in the game and Shane would be a prime suspect for scum, but I dunno, I'm much less sure about Theo than I was before Ishy's flip.

 

Either way, this tells me that it's very likely that the mod gave the mafia safe fake claims to use, which pretty much makes any scumhunting based on character claims somewhat mute anyways.

 

Just trying to keep it simple, if I went solely based on who I've gotten the most/strongest scumtells from this game, it would be Theo, followed a close second by Err. Based on who seemed to have a connection with Ishy during my iso of him, it would be Err the most, and Mish or Theo even after that. I got a town read on BFG recently based on her attempts to analyze everything in front of her the past couple of days, seems cautious but not scummily cautious. I got a mixed read on both Mish and Peace. Going over the past few pages however, Err is still the one who sticks out most to me. He has seemed to go after just about everyone recently except for Theo, who I'm still wary on. And I don't understand how they both seem to "know" the other is town without explaining why (Err had a weird vote analysis post a while ago that stated Theo must be town, but it was def flawed and never really explained WHY she was town, just stated that she obviously was).

 

I'm still not sure, even after trying to simplify it for myself. I'd be willing to hammer Peace btw, if need be. Still worried he could be telling the truth tho, which would make us instalose. However, at this point the game is dragging and others are starting and frankly I'm kinda wanting it to be over soon either way. I dunno.

[hazelkrs1]

BFG, I remember you bringing a couple things up about me before, but I don't really feel like reading that formatting again, made my head hurt. Do you have any questions for me I can answer?

 

Peace, feel like you haven't weighed in as much lately. Any new thoughts?

[Theodora]

At this stage I am very willing for all of it to be over as well, as I am bumping my head into walls and claims and it feels like everyone has given reads for being mafia. I got the Err and BFG pro-town inclination but at this point I know only one person's alignment for sure. I don't have enough Mafia Game History as to be certain if characters can be clear clues in any given game but I guess this only depends on the Mod. It might turn out Rick to be the GF (he has the most kills of zombies) and I want to stop with the theories on this as they are getting more and more ridiculous (biker zombie? (from the tease AJ posted))

 

I feel we are getting more and more confused and running in circles with each and every read. I cannot be online after 10 pm UK time tonight (dunno about the rest), which makes it 1 - 2 pm PST for me to cast my vote.

 

I will do a final re-read and that's it as I am getting nowhere from a certain point.

[michellem]

BFG is clear-cut town to me after those posts. Very good, very pro-town posts. BFG, Err, we need to work together, and I hope the last remaining townie will too. I'm certian the last mafia is between Peace, Des and, much lower on the possibility- list than the other two, Dora.  And I'm certain Peace's Bomb-claim is BS now. I have barely seen a bomb in advanced-games, never in a basic game, and although this is AJ's first round of modding, I'm certain he's played enough to be able to balance a set-up to be basic.

 

 

Des, I see you didn't bother commenting on me pointing on the flaws in Peace's character and role claim. After googling, I can see why AJ chose both his cop and doc characters (the kid is a given, and Carol is a very protective character as far as I understand); he hasn't chosen the most obviosu ones (Rick and BFG's character), probably to stop mafia from PR-hunt solely on characters. But the ones he has chosen still does make sense as "secondary" characters for those roles. But there is nothing that indicates that T-dog should be a bomb. Are you trying to protect Peace?

 

Des is trying to point fingers on as many people as possible in his last list. I find it very, very likely that him and Peace are our last remaning mafias.

 

Vote Des

[Theodora]

BFG is clear-cut town to me after those posts. Very good, very pro-town posts. BFG, Err, we need to work together, and I hope the last remaining townie will too. I'm certian the last mafia is between Peace, Des and, much lower on the possibility- list than the other two, Dora.  And I'm certain Peace's Bomb-claim is BS now. I have barely seen a bomb in advanced-games, never in a basic game, and although this is AJ's first round of modding, I'm certain he's played enough to be able to balance a set-up to be basic.

 

 

Des, I see you didn't bother commenting on me pointing on the flaws in Peace's character and role claim. After googling, I can see why AJ chose both his cop and doc characters (the kid is a given, and Carol is a very protective character as far as I understand); he hasn't chosen the most obviosu ones (Rick and BFG's character), probably to stop mafia from PR-hunt solely on characters. But the ones he has chosen still does make sense as "secondary" characters for those roles. But there is nothing that indicates that T-dog should be a bomb. Are you trying to protect Peace?

 

Des is trying to point fingers on as many people as possible in his last list. I find it very, very likely that him and Peace are our last remaning mafias.

 

Vote Des

In green: I reached the same conclusions, Mish.

 

Since Despo asked, however, why not voting Peace and Despo to do the hammer just in case?

 

The others?

[michellem]

Because if Des is mafia, he'll probably refuse to hammer.

 

Not sure what you're asking with the others?

[Theodora]

What do they think of a train on Peace?

 

Then unvote and vote Desp again? Won't this do it?

 

Or if you have a start on Desp and me on Peace, it would be:

 

Desp: Mish

Peace: BfG, Theo, Err

 

If he is town, like he promised, Desp would make the hammer;

If mafia and if he doesn't vote until 2 PST, I am L2 on the train Mish started.

The rest who could follow the deadline will understand if he is not voting and we'll be prepared before the end.

 

Does it sound sane as I think I am a little bit wry at the moment or too risky? As Desp and BFG are my biggest reads at the moment.

[BFG]

Deadline's 10am for me.  I should be able to log in at least once tomorrow morning before 10 to switch votes in the morning, but won't be able to really discuss anything.  Would possibly prefer Err to hammer as I find some of his play mafiaesque, but since I'm pretty sure Peace is mafia and thus not a bomb it shouldn't make any difference.

 

vote Peace

[BFG]

What do they think of a train on Peace?

 

Then unvote and vote Desp again? Won't this do it?

 

Or if you have a start on Desp and me on Peace, it would be:

 

Desp: Mish

Peace: BfG, Theo, Err

 

If he is town, like he promised, Desp would make the hammer;

If mafia and if he doesn't vote until 2 PST, I am L2 on the train Mish started.

The rest who could follow the deadline will understand if he is not voting and we'll be prepared before the end.

 

Does it sound sane as I think I am a little bit wry at the moment or too risky? As Desp and BFG are my biggest reads at the moment.

 

 

What do they think of a train on Peace?

 

Then unvote and vote Desp again? Won't this do it?

 

Or if you have a start on Desp and me on Peace, it would be:

 

Desp: Mish

Peace: BfG, Theo, Err

 

If he is town, like he promised, Desp would make the hammer;

If mafia and if he doesn't vote until 2 PST, I am L2 on the train Mish started.

The rest who could follow the deadline will understand if he is not voting and we'll be prepared before the end.

 

Does it sound sane as I think I am a little bit wry at the moment or too risky? As Desp and BFG are my biggest reads at the moment.

 

 ?

[BFG]

huh, not sure why that double quoted

[michellem]

What do they think of a train on Peace?

 

Then unvote and vote Desp again? Won't this do it?

 

Or if you have a start on Desp and me on Peace, it would be:

 

Desp: Mish

Peace: BfG, Theo, Err

 

If he is town, like he promised, Desp would make the hammer;

If mafia and if he doesn't vote until 2 PST, I am L2 on the train Mish started.

The rest who could follow the deadline will understand if he is not voting and we'll be prepared before the end.

 

Does it sound sane as I think I am a little bit wry at the moment or too risky? As Desp and BFG are my biggest reads at the moment.

 

I don't understand what you mean, sorry :/

 

 

I have no idea what the VC is actually. Haven't paid attention to it this Day.

[michellem]

Because there has been no votes... Of course

[Theodora]

That was a hypothetical situation, hypothetical trains on my two biggest scum reads. Now they have official trains started on both (Peace and Despo).

 

Mish, you are afraid that Despo will not complete his promise to hammer Peace. In that case, when the DL is close and he has not voted, we could all move to Despo train. I am sorry if it doesn't make sense to you. I am feeling very tired.

 

At least this one is clear enough:

 

Vote Peace