[Basic] The Walking Dead Mafia - Game Over. Theo Wins!

[Nolder]

You say that if the hammer was town and was lynched the next day, that we could then go after the L-1 vote. But do you really think town would be that disciplined? That they would ignore everything else that occurred in the multiple phases after the L-1 vote? I think you have more faith in town in mafia games at DM than I do. I notice that most that play this game have far too short of a memory, and mostly move on the last suspicion they had, instead of following up on earlier ones.

Well we're already talking in hypotheticals because we don't even know that he would have been hammered let alone in the exact situation you described.

Maybe I'm being optimistic but if we want to deal with the here and the now the fact is you've derailed his train when you shouldn't know one way or another what his alignment is. That's scummy. Period.

[hazelkrs1]

Kinda sucks cause I'm also worried I might a stuck my neck on the line for a scummie. H8 u Dap. If BFG is scum so is Dap.

[hazelkrs1]

 

 

You say that if the hammer was town and was lynched the next day, that we could then go after the L-1 vote. But do you really think town would be that disciplined? That they would ignore everything else that occurred in the multiple phases after the L-1 vote? I think you have more faith in town in mafia games at DM than I do. I notice that most that play this game have far too short of a memory, and mostly move on the last suspicion they had, instead of following up on earlier ones.

Well we're already talking in hypotheticals because we don't even know that he would have been hammered let alone in the exact situation you described.

Maybe I'm being optimistic but if we want to deal with the here and the now the fact is you've derailed his train when you shouldn't know one way or another what his alignment is. That's scummy. Period.

I don't know his alignment. The last couple bandwagon votes on him without a competing train in sight made me think he was town tho.

[Nolder]

Kinda sucks cause I'm also worried I might a stuck my neck on the line for a scummie. H8 u Dap. If BFG is scum so is Dap.

That's a really bold claim for a townie to make this early in the game isn't it?

[Nolder]

 

 

You say that if the hammer was town and was lynched the next day, that we could then go after the L-1 vote. But do you really think town would be that disciplined? That they would ignore everything else that occurred in the multiple phases after the L-1 vote? I think you have more faith in town in mafia games at DM than I do. I notice that most that play this game have far too short of a memory, and mostly move on the last suspicion they had, instead of following up on earlier ones.

Well we're already talking in hypotheticals because we don't even know that he would have been hammered let alone in the exact situation you described.

Maybe I'm being optimistic but if we want to deal with the here and the now the fact is you've derailed his train when you shouldn't know one way or another what his alignment is. That's scummy. Period.

I don't know his alignment. The last couple bandwagon votes on him without a competing train in sight made me think he was town tho.

That's possible but if he was town he needed to stand up to the heat and be vetted. Afterwards the train would likely have melted away, as they tend to do, and who would have been suspect afterwards? That's right lazy vote bandwagoners.

 

You took that opportunity away from everyone.

[hazelkrs1]

I guess, maybe it was a bad play. I just didn't want to keep my vote on someone I started to think was town. If I go down for that, so be it. Andrea sucks balls anyways.

[Leelou]

Meh. Lazy trains FTL. Last time I cover this- I unvoted because I saw the VC and didn't like the last two votes on Dap's train (GoldenEye's, Theo), and didn't want day 1 to go too fast.

 

I'm vanilla, and Andrea, which is also my least favorite walking dead character so at least she'll die first. My top reads for scum are Lenlo, BFG, GoldenEye's, and Leelou.

 

Isn't that every game we play in? 

[Nolder]

Aren't you always a bad girl though? 

[Leelou]

Bad girl =/= scum lol

[dapianoplay3r]

Ok ok

 

So here's the vote

Vote Lenlo for discouraging voting activity. Scummer apparently wants us to waste day 1 with spam so we're screwed the rest of the game. Obvious scum has to go.

 

This is how it effected the game

 

 

Vote Count 1.3

BFG (1) - Nolder

Lenlo (1) - Despo

Not Voting: Everyone else.

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.In regards to the DL I am allowing D1 to run a bit longer. If the activity drops off though then I will set one.

 

Pretty boring

 

Here's the post des alluded to

So much angst, so much quick action nolder buddy. Lets chill.

And after despos vote this was Lens defense

Despo we dont have a deadline yet. What im saying is we dont need to rush things.

Clearly we were rushing things. Two votes is a bit far in 3 pages

 

Anyway onwards

 

Hmm this occurs to me

I would like to see how a very experienced player would defend himself at this stage, so:

 

I vote Ishy

Why Ishy? Len, peace, and myself all had a vote where Ishy did not and we are all pretty experienced (and arrogant in my case it appears)

 

While I'm here let's deal with this

 

Vote Dap.

OMGUS!

How could you do this to me! Like seriously what have I done to attract your attention at all. This vote is completely miss founded and obviously just a mafia trying to get something going early.

My vote stays on Ishy till he explains himself.

So if it wasn't obvious I wasn't serious I'd like to point out the bold.

I wasn't voting and I still am not voting. It was satire

 

Plus it was followed by this

Lol enough of a reaction for you?

I was at work last night and didn't end up having a break, hence the inactivity

 

But Nol (a usually insightful person) does this

Overreaction IMO.

 

Unvote

Vote Player

I thought it was a joke or play to get reactions at first but he hasn't had a reveal so I've moved off that

 

Then this happens

Hmm, that's Peace. Pral is fairly low too. Spreading the votes around.

 

Pral

Still seems so odd.

You reason a vote for someone then vote someone else

 

This game seriously needs more activity. Step it up, town.

 

Worried the Dap obvious overreaction posts could be a gambit between him and Ishy. I bet they squeaked with childlike glee when they found out they could Drunk Mafia on QT together.

 

And why are more people not voting Lenlo? He's sticking to his story about there being no rush.... since when does town need to be in a rush to place votes? That kind of craptastic thinking leads to crumby consolidation lynches at deadline and poor games for town (and victory for scum).

 

Lenlo is obvious scum. Gonna keep an eye on those that hesitate to join his lynch...

Now I like this, des actually has a reason to doubt me due to those posts and he has a reason to doubt Len, unlike Nol who is rather superficial.

 

Back to leelou

Not lately. And I'm really only lovey-dovey with a few people. My vote is currently just randomly on someone not really showing up to the game yet.

 

I don't like that Theo is all about Ishy..honey there are far sexier people playing this game. Me, you, Dap for some examples.

 

Don't see Lenlo for "obvious scum" as of yet, plus Des's reads have been off on those he's calling "obvious scum" Day 1.

 

What is with all the random show chatter? Goldeneyes is new so he's getting a bit of a pass right now. Dap is still in silly mode and hasn't really gotten into game mode yet, going to be watching him a bit.

 

Bold

Well it's not really random now is it. You chose inactive then you chose from that. Don't even try deny that you chose from the inactive pool cos you purposefully didn't use peace when he was the most inactive by your own admission

 

Then she defends Len and goes for me lol

 

So now this feels connected when I read the thread

 

 

Its ishy i was talking about and if i know im not mafia then i know we arent mafia together

make sense

 

Don't you know?

UnvoteVote Dap

It appears golden is reacting to the BFG accusation. However, when confronted he instead gives this reason

 

 

 

 

 

UnvoteVote Dap

 

why...? Attaching reasons to votes is a very good thing.

I went back and reread the thread a few times. I'm not convinced my original vote isn't scum, but at this point I feel similarly about several people in this game. There's not really enough out there to make an informed decision. I changed my vote to see if it elicited a response that gives me more information.

Basically he doesn't have reads and I'm under pressure. Sheeping at its finest

 

 

Unvote Ishy

Vote Dap

 

Reason: Scummy enough to start talking about a series that has nothing to do with the current game. It might be silly mode (being drunk) but drink has it's price, especially in Mafia games when everything can be read as a case; I have to trust my intuition as well.

Now our other new person gives this

Building on words from before

 

Unvote, Vote Dap for trying to derail the scumhunt with offtopic talk. Lenlo's noose can wait for later.

 

So the vote that left des uneasy was built on his initial voting reasons....

 

 

 

Unvote.

 

L-2 a little too close for me, don't want scum coming in and speedhammering if Dap actually is town. We don't need that fast of a Day 1. Also feel like Theo's vote is a bit off, and was already wary of her.

 

Exactly why is a "fast" day 1 a good or bad thing in itself? Wouldn't the two quick votes identify the scum? Trying to protect your teammate and hide behind a veneer of doing "what's best for the town?"

 

 

 

At this point I peg Dap and Des as scum. In the event it actually happened, a speedhammer would have identified two scum on Day 1. Unvoting= scum move to protect an ally. Interestingly enough, in switching his vote to Des, Nolder moved Dap from -2 to -4. Why switch at all if you think Dap is scum too?

Strangely well thought out for a virgin player

But not important ATM

 

Kinda sucks cause I'm also worried I might a stuck my neck on the line for a scummie. H8 u Dap. If BFG is scum so is Dap.

I've been playing a long time, there is seriously no reason for you to stick your nexk out at all

If you are town and I'm town you Fed up

If I'm mafia and you are town you Fed up

If I'm mafia and you are mafia you Fed up

If I'm town and you are mafia you might, maybe, possibly have a chance of making this work, but it would cost you in the play so it seems pretty unbalanced

 

So this is all on you des. It was a poor play (regardless of alignment)

 

 

 

Kinda sucks cause I'm also worried I might a stuck my neck on the line for a scummie. H8 u Dap. If BFG is scum so is Dap.

 

That's a really bold claim for a townie to make this early in the game isn't it?

No pun intended right?

But yea it's rather bold and something else... Something people use as a buzz word all the time....

Tip of my tongue.....

 

Linking. It's linking.

However, as above with the Fed stuff, I don't see how this would be a valid play for mafia to make. (Enlighten me if anyone has an idea on that)

It isn't worth the risk for mafia to play like des did. Or has DM changed in the 2 months I didn't play?

[dapianoplay3r]

Now I'm off to bed

I'll see the VC come morning then place my vote

 

Des might be good for completing trains but I think he's town just cos mafia couldn't play that openly IMO

Dora Looks like a good vote too

Leelou is being evasive for no good reason so is a nice starting point

 

Night guys

(Sorry if it wasn't as coherent as people hoped for but I tried)

[Nolder]

However, as above with the Fed stuff, I don't see how this would be a valid play for mafia to make. (Enlighten me if anyone has an idea on that)

It isn't worth the risk for mafia to play like des did. Or has DM changed in the 2 months I didn't play?

That's true. And it reminds me of things Ape usually says.

Verbatim from memory "Townies usually look the most scummy. Scum knows how to stay clean."

That said, is it wise to adhere to the inverse of Too Townie?

We've got at least a couple newbies here. Could it be that Des made a bad play trying to gain town credit with them by playing the cautious savior?

[Theodora]

I voted Ishy because he was the only one I knew from other interaction and knew that he was quite good in Mafia, but yet I did not witness his style. I did not want to say BFG or Dap are worse players,or less experienced, I just haven't had a chance to meet you, guys. It was an initial vote which I was going to change, once I got some reaction from Ishy which was my vote's intention. I suspected Dap because of the spam thing in the beginning and I just played consequently - Ishy arrived and I changed my vote immediately to the person I already pointed out that he seems scummy to me. Train or no train. I am vanilla and my point is toeliminate scum.

 

About intuition - people have styles/strategies in this game. I trust my intuition, so it takes some part of my decisions, like it or not.

 

I suspect Despo is town as well after this weird move, or he is part of a huge brilliant mobster plot, too big to be suspcted by the likes of me.

[Andrej]

Vote Count 1.13

Lenlo (1) - Peace
Dap (3) - Ishy, Goldeneyes, Theodora
Peace (2) - Err, Pral
Despo (3) - Nolder, BFG, Leelou

 

Not Voting: Lenlo, Mish, Dap, Despo

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline: http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20131122T22&p0=770&msg=Day+1+Deadline&csz=1&swk=1

[Andrej]

Good morning again.

 

[Leelou]

 

However, as above with the Fed stuff, I don't see how this would be a valid play for mafia to make. (Enlighten me if anyone has an idea on that)

It isn't worth the risk for mafia to play like des did. Or has DM changed in the 2 months I didn't play?

That's true. And it reminds me of things Ape usually says.

Verbatim from memory "Townies usually look the most scummy. Scum knows how to stay clean."

That said, is it wise to adhere to the inverse of Too Townie?

We've got at least a couple newbies here. Could it be that Des made a bad play trying to gain town credit with them by playing the cautious savior?

 

 

I don't buy it as a Des town play. He doesn't play like that as town. He plays all out. 

[Nolder]

 

Vote Count 1.13

Lenlo (1) - Peace

Dap (3) - Ishy, Goldeneyes, Theodora

Peace (2) - Err, Pral

Despo (3) - Nolder, BFG, Leelou

 

Not Voting: Lenlo, Mish, Dap

 

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

 

Deadline: http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20131122T22&p0=770&msg=Day+1+Deadline&csz=1&swk=1

 

Your vote count is shy a person.

[Andrej]

 

 

Vote Count 1.13

Lenlo (1) - Peace

Dap (3) - Ishy, Goldeneyes, Theodora

Peace (2) - Err, Pral

Despo (3) - Nolder, BFG, Leelou

 

Not Voting: Lenlo, Mish, Dap

 

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

 

Deadline: http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20131122T22&p0=770&msg=Day+1+Deadline&csz=1&swk=1

 

Your vote count is shy a person.

 

 

Fixed. Good catch, I forgot to add Despo to the Not Voting list.

[peacesells]

So..Despo votes Dap, then unvotes Dap after others jump on board. 

 

Then people vote Despo because he looks like he is derailing a train from his scum mate.

 

But if these people think Despo and Dap are as scum team...why not keep on Dap which is the stronger train at the time?

 

Something is going on here.

 

 

 

Desp claims Andrea?  If this wasn't a basic game I say that she would be a symp character.

[Nolder]

Just took a look at the postcount.

 

Err 6

Pralaya 4

Misheru Sedai 4

peacesells 3

 

I'm thinking all these people need to pick it up a bit.

Peace I know you just posted but considering you're the lowest I'd like some more if you don't mind.

What you've posted is essentially just a summary, I want to know what you think about this besides the assessment that "something" is going on.

[Nolder]

Looking over things again I also don't like how the only two people voting you are also two of the lowest postcount players and that both of their votes are now looking pretty lame given how the game has progressed.

 

well in the case the dead will not be resurrected.... i take back my vote  

unvote no Lynch

 

and vote for someone to hear them defend :P

vote Peace

 

Why is there  a dap train forming already?

 

Spam, check.

Ishy fixations, Check

Despo emo, Check

Lenlo being scummy day 1, check

 

.....yup this a DM mafia game.

 

 

VOTE LENLO

 

If everything is normal, peace must be the scum !

 

vote peace

 

And your vote isn't looking so hot either.

 

Spam, check.

Ishy fixations, Check

Despo emo, Check

Lenlo being scummy day 1, check

 

.....yup this a DM mafia game.

 

 

VOTE LENLO

[Nolder]

@Mod: Please don't count the vote in my previous post. Quotes got screwed up and since you wont let us edit I have no way of fixing it besides clogging up the thread by posting again.

[Theodora]

Guys, I'll need some help, please - if the Mafia game is based on a real series like this one. Does our alignment has something to do with our character's faith? I was a bit intrigued by what AJ said - look at the name of the day "...Fear the living". And I know what happens to Andrea (Despo's claimed char), not to spoil anyone's pleasure of the series but she well...you know.

[Leelou]

^nudging the Des train and staying on dap

[Theodora]

^nudging the Des train and staying on dap

What logic would it have if I do that. It was a simple question.