[Basic] Die Hard for Mafia Game Thread

[csarmi]

Yes I know, Andrej. Unfortunately, I found it unlikely that the maffia would be fooled.

 

Doc self-protect ability and the usage of it are too much h of a dogma around here.

 

So I think I have more to gain than to lose.

 

As for one of us being dead before long. O don't think the maffia has the guts to play wine with me.

[csarmi]

Yes I know, Andrej. Unfortunately, I found it unlikely that the maffia would be fooled.

 

Doc self-protect ability and the usage of it are too much h of a dogma around here.

 

So I think I have more to gain than to lose.

 

As for one of us being dead before long. O don't think the maffia has the guts to play wine with me.

[csarmi]

Yes I know, Andrej. Unfortunately, I found it unlikely that the maffia would be fooled.

 

Doc self-protect ability and the usage of it are too much h of a dogma around here.

 

So I think I have more to gain than to lose.

 

As for one of us being dead before long. O don't think the maffia has the guts to play wine with me.

[csarmi]

Yes I know. But unfortunately, doc being able to self-protect and the docs self-protecting all the time is too much of a dogma around here. Thus, I was pretty sure that they wouldn't be fooled.

 

In other words, I judged that claiming had more to gain than to lose.

 

As for one of us being dead before long. I don't think scum have the guts to play wine with me.

 

Wine, wine, wine. Wine with me.

Wine with me.

[csarmi]

DM can gft.

[peacesells]

Um..what if Cloud was shot by scum and Darthe.  c'mon people.  Put your thinking caps on here.  There is no proof that Csarmi was targeted.

 

And Vig makes complete sense.  I'd assume that Darthe is Johen McClaine.

[peacesells]

Dap, Lenlo, Dice, Andre, Lucy.

 

The 2 remaining scum are hiding there. 

 

VOTE DICE.

[csarmi]

Peace, I agree that there is no proof per se, but I had a very strong conviction of Cloud's shot not being a maffia shot from the moment this day dawned upon us.

Why would they shoot the obvious lynch target?

 

So Darthe's Vig claim not only didn't catch me by suprise, but I've been waiting for it, actually.

 

I can go with Dice.

vote Dice

 

Also on the news ...

 

If there's a survivor in the game, they should claim now.

[Hallia]

Official Vote Count:

 

Kaylee(1): Andrej

Dice(2): Peace, Csarmi

 

Not Voting: Everyone else

 

Deadline for Day 2 is set for Tuesday, Sept. 24 at 7pm PST.

[Lenlo]

Vig can be in basic.

 

Salami, that reveal makes sense.  Mafia knew who you were so town not knowing was only hurtful.  It also brings the question of why the mafia chose to kill you?   My bet is that they did it because of how solidly people had a town read on you.  Idk if they will NK me or not, depends on how on target my reads are I suppose.  That should be good info later though.

 

IT IS IMPERATIVE THAT THE COP NOT REVEAL.

 

 

Vig, survivor, SK, godfather, roleblocker, cop, doc, vanilla are the usual ones (saw all these).

 

I'd be very surprised if this game had no Vig, given the theme.

Alright thanks. I can never remember whats usual in basic games.

 

Dap, Lenlo, Dice, Andre, Lucy.

 

The 2 remaining scum are hiding there. 

 

VOTE DICE.

Was there something I missed or are you omitting yourself, Kaylee and Pral? Yes there have been some pro town moves by these people but that doesnt omit them the possibility of being scum just less likely.

[csarmi]

I think Peace mtnioned having a town read on Kaylee and Pral. I suppose he's omitting himself because he considers himself town.

[peacesells]

I think Peace mtnioned having a town read on Kaylee and Pral. I suppose he's omitting himself because he considers himself town.

 

Csarmi summed it up nicely.  Not really hard to miss if you've been paying attention Lenlo.  Now just vote Dice and get this done with.

[Lenlo]

 

I think Peace mtnioned having a town read on Kaylee and Pral. I suppose he's omitting himself because he considers himself town.

 

Csarmi summed it up nicely.  Not really hard to miss if you've been paying attention Lenlo.  Now just vote Dice and get this done with.

 

Still no reason to omit them, as its perfectly normal to be wrong.  Theres also the whole thing of we have no exact reason to trust you either. A healthy dose of paranoia goes a long way.

 

Vote Dice

[Darthe]

@Salami never protect me. You r worth more

[peacesells]

Darthe..if you have more shots.  Shoot from the pool I listed.

[peacesells]

 

 

I think Peace mtnioned having a town read on Kaylee and Pral. I suppose he's omitting himself because he considers himself town.

 

Csarmi summed it up nicely.  Not really hard to miss if you've been paying attention Lenlo.  Now just vote Dice and get this done with.

 

Still no reason to omit them, as its perfectly normal to be wrong.  Theres also the whole thing of we have no exact reason to trust you either. A healthy dose of paranoia goes a long way.

 

Vote Dice

 

You are welcome to come up with your own reads.  In fact, why you aren't is suspicious.  You question me...then vote in the direction I want.  What's up with that?

[csarmi]

@Salami never protect me. You r worth more

Can I put that in my siggy?

[_CLOUD]

Go town!

[Hallia]

 

@Salami never protect me. You r worth more

Can I put that in my siggy?

 

 

This made me lul.  That is all, carry on.

[csarmi]

A couple of things:

 

1) I suck at maffia. It's official. You can quote me on that.

 

Why?

 

Cause I try to act my best town (feeling that it would still look scummy enough to avoid maffia NK) in the greek game, only to get vigged as a Cop.

So now I draw Doc and I got this nice plan on being scummy enough so that either a)I'm just viewed as a non-threat and I can protect whoever I want to or b)I get run up and have to claim and play wine. What happen is that people get town read on me? Least I managed to guess I'm a likely NK target. Go figure.

 

2) I'm pretty sure Darthe is 1-shot Vig. But still, on the off chance that he isn't:

 

3) We need to pull a good day now with enough information. Let's not be lazy now. Information that Darthe can use to base his shot on. I think he has a good enough judgment to shoot well on his own (shooting Cloud was a great call, fo3 instance), but some pressure trains would be very nice information.

 

4) I don't want to go into too much setup talk, but I think it's a good idea to check out the pair of this game on JN. Page 75-78 for showdown, setup and all that.

[Lenlo]

 

 

 

I think Peace mtnioned having a town read on Kaylee and Pral. I suppose he's omitting himself because he considers himself town.

 

Csarmi summed it up nicely.  Not really hard to miss if you've been paying attention Lenlo.  Now just vote Dice and get this done with.

 

Still no reason to omit them, as its perfectly normal to be wrong.  Theres also the whole thing of we have no exact reason to trust you either. A healthy dose of paranoia goes a long way.

 

Vote Dice

 

You are welcome to come up with your own reads.  In fact, why you aren't is suspicious.  You question me...then vote in the direction I want.  What's up with that?

 

Im only questioning the pool, not the person. The person we are in agreement on the pool you are pulling names from is where the disagreement is.

[csarmi]

I'm going to do a re-read later this evening. I've got some shiny new views I want to look up some background information on. Be very afraid.

[peacesells]

Lenlo...why are you voting Dice?

[Kaylee]

 

 

She's my best lead currently.

 

Well, as I stated previously I have a town read on her.  Please explain why you don't.

 

 

I already have. I posted the start of a case before NotBob's lynch. Her over-explanation of everything along with her actions in regards to the leading trains yesterday make me suspicious.

 

I took what you said about her meta into account, but my gut tells me otherwise.

 

Bold: to which I quoted and commented on. No reply to it? Because you know you have nothing real on me.

 

 

Lenlo...why are you voting Dice?

This also has me curious. As I recall he hasn't posted much due to RL issues. I'm curious why you just seem to follow without any comment of your own.

[Kaylee]

Quoted this to make it easier to see. I put my notes on them.

 

1. Peace- leaning town

2. Luci (Being mentored by Ishy)

3. Andrej (Replaced Quibby)

4. Darthe- Claimed Vig (I believe it)

5. Kaylee

6. Pralaya- Claimed VT (not sure if I believe)

7. Dice

8. Not Bob - Theo - Mafia Goon - Lynched D1

9. Cloud

10. Csarmi-Claimed Doc (I also believe)

11. Lenlo

12. Dap

 

Backups:

Nynaeve

 

 

 

Vanilla Town here.

 

Looks like someone has crawled under a rock.

 

Vote Lenlo

Other than him going for Lenlo I wasn't able to find connections to others. (I was looking for possible teammate connections)

 

 

 

Pral has been defeated it seems. Kind of surprised he latched so strongly onto Lenlo for his reasons. Could go either way on his VT claim. I think it's bad form to give someone the benefit of the doubt just because of the phase and his claim that everything must be absolute. I would probably have done the same in his shoes if I were scum.

 

Well, not exactly defeated but at a point where whatever I say could go against me (and the timezone too, yeah, just woke up). I am still in the opinion that Lenlo and Cloud are scum in this game. Lenlo has disappeared and Cloud's explanations have not convinced me. I have a feeling that most of those active right now are town and the scum have settled in the background watching the show unfold. 

 

 

The fact that he wasn't hammered means he's town and scum were already on his train (not saying all of them), or he's scum and they're stalling the lynch. I'm not sure which yet.

 

Kaylee, you used the exact same logic in the game where me and Mish were mafia. And, we used it to our advantage. Because of it you started believing that Mish was town and you know how that went. The thing is scum will not hammer me or anyone till last minute because if they do it brings attention on them and they wouldn't risk it. Yes, I am sure there are scum already on my train (and you know who I am suspicious of) - that goes without saying.

 

Bold: I remember quite well, it's part of why I don't trust you honestly.

Blue: I don't agree. Waiting to hammer a teammate can make them suspects as it looks like they were trying to delay the train.

Orange: I'm also curious why you brought this up. Seems like buddying to me or trying to make yourself seem more likely town.

 

 

Peace, I agree that there is no proof per se, but I had a very strong conviction of Cloud's shot not being a maffia shot from the moment this day dawned upon us.
Why would they shoot the obvious lynch target?

So Darthe's Vig claim not only didn't catch me by suprise, but I've been waiting for it, actually.

I can go with Dice.
vote Dice

Also on the news ...

If there's a survivor in the game, they should claim now.

I agree as leaving him alive benefits them. It would ensure that most likely we'd lynch a townie D2.