[Basic] Die Hard for Mafia Game Thread

[dapianoplay3r]

You can when there are only two votes on any person

You can do competing rains with one person. Case in point the SG1 game

4 on someone

5 on someone else

 

Vote the 4 and competing trains are created

[_CLOUD]

I mean Pral is at L-1 and you just made the second vote on Len. You aren't evening trains out dude. You are just placing your vote on someone nobody else has stated any intention to vote for.

[dapianoplay3r]

And there it is

The reason you end up scummy

 

 

You say I'm leaning town. All I've done is tell lead Darthe (and it was more of an offer than a lead)

Ergo Darthe=town in your head if I'm leading pretty much only him and I'm leading town.

 

 

I know that you were referring to Darthe when you made that offer, but I had the feeling that you were planning to convince everyone of your plan. You mentioned competing trains, and you can't get trains started with only two players.

So cloud back track and says he thought I was planning to lead the town

 

Lets go back

  

 

Cloud you picked up on Pral flimsy reasoning but don't mention Not Bob's. Why not?

 

You mean NotBob's persistence to lynch Lenlo just because he self-voted? I could go for NotBob just because he isn't scumhunting, and is only going with his standard "herp derp lynching Darthe is the best move for town" thing, and voting for someone who self-voted without looking at the context of the vote. I have played a game or two with NotBob before though and this seems to be his usual play so I don't think his actions this game define him as scum.

I could ask the same question to you: why aren't you voting for Pral if you think his reasoning is flimsy?

 

Kk gonna go ahead and state intentions to vote plralaya or cloud atm.

 

This is weak. You were ready to vote for me without even waiting for my reply to Peace's question?

 

 

Kk gonna go ahead and state intentions to vote plralaya or cloud atm.

 

You vote Len, I vote pray and we get competing trains going?

To vica Versa (I know it's not cloud but we can do that tomorrow)

 

You really are always trying to lead town in every game that you play in, and for some reason it always results in pressuring me Why don't you do something useful instead and vote for Pral? The dude is obviously scum.

  

 

 

 

 

You really are always trying to lead town in every game that you play in, and for some reason it always results in pressuring me Why don't you do something useful instead and vote for Pral? The dude is obviously scum.

 

 

"Obviously" is such a loaded word on Day 1. Trying to deflect attention, eh?

 

You mean like you are doing right now? I have stated my intention to vote for you since page 4.

 

Yeah, you can find me suspicious, you can vote me, you can state your intentions but "obviously"? That is an intentional diversion move.

 

Or I'm, you know, thinking that you are scum at this point? You are using a diversion move yourself by voting for me, and your only reasoning seems to be that I'm driving the town which isn't true at all. Both Dap and Darthe are leading the town way more than I am and they have been cheerleading for your lynch, so why aren't you voting for them instead? You have to have a better reason if you want to make a serious vote against someone.

 

Anyway, you are at L-1 so you should claim.

But back in all your quotes I am leading the town, not planning too

Why are you pushing so hard to make me look like what you think my meta is

[csarmi]

@Dap - why Len?

[dapianoplay3r]

I mean Pral is at L-1 and you just made the second vote on Len. You aren't evening trains out dude. You are just placing your vote on someone nobody else has stated any intention to vote for.

I thought Len was 2 votes behind?

Oh well

 

unvote

Could easily vote cloud

[_CLOUD]

@Dap: In the first quote you posted I said that you were planning to convince everyone of your plan, and in the second quote I said that you were trying to lead town. Only in my reply to Pral did I mention that both you and Darthe are leading the town more than I have, and like I already said that is technically true because I haven't been leading at all. I wanted to see how Pral would react to this and if he would consider to vote you or Darthe, because his only reasoning for voting for me was because I was in his opinion leading town.

[dapianoplay3r]

U huh

 

Sure thing cloud

[_CLOUD]

U huh

 

Sure thing cloud

 

[Lenlo]

 

I mean Pral is at L-1 and you just made the second vote on Len. You aren't evening trains out dude. You are just placing your vote on someone nobody else has stated any intention to vote for.

I thought Len was 2 votes behind?

Oh well

 

unvote

Could easily vote cloud

 

And this why I was confused. You talked about evening out trains but I only had 1 vote on me before yours so it looked to me that you werent about evening out trains, but starting a completely new one on a town player.

[_CLOUD]

Yeah it looks like Dap was skimming.

[csarmi]

Yeah it looks like Dap was skimming.

Dap?

But he never skims!

[_CLOUD]

 

Yeah it looks like Dap was skimming.

Dap?

But he never skims!

 

 

:P

 

He is either skimming or he is trying to draw the attention to Lenlo and hide his vote at the same time.

[_CLOUD]

Anyway, I'm going to bed.

[csarmi]

yo!!

 

cloud i hope we wont have any problems after our relationship troubles recently!   

So far, so good.

  

So Peace lays out some bait to see who jumps and how. fairly aggressive bait too.

 

Dap if you are looking for Csarmi scum meta you could be having a hard time. From what ive seen he plays much the same either way. 

 

sorry for short post but i have a migraine and am shortly going to bed. Cant even play the new GTA i got today :(

 

Stating the obvious, calls RL and comments on Csarmi's meta being impregnable. Weird, tbh. 

 

what dice has to say is that lens self vote came across to me like he was intentionally breaking the rules but just for fun. Not bobs stance on self voting is fine if not taken to extremes. I think someone else has the same attitude to it,  might be nolder. I dont like it much during games either  but D1 first post? that i can live with. 

 

I have read the last couple of pages but honestly dont have a great grip on this game atm due to my migraine. Hopefully it will be totally gone by tonight and i can reread. I need to to really need to cause im not seeing what ppl are talking about re praya atm.

 

for now i will just give an intention to vote notbob.

More casual comments, like he needs to particpipate. But he can't vote yet, just state intention. Cause voting would be so irresponsible or what?

What I think is that he's scum and he wanna look like he's adding something to the game, but don't wanna vote cause he has been skimming alot and it might bite him. So he's cautious. Town votes at this point, or stays shut up.

 

vote Dice

 

Also @Luci sounds somewhat weird to me. Same issues, just posts to look she's adding smth. Not to mention the "hmm I find smth interesting, wait for it! - then no followup". Might give a pass cause she's just getting into the game but I'm gonna keep an eye on her.

 

Cloud/Dap debate sounds off to me. Not sure what to think about it. I'm leaning town Dap / scum Cloud.

 

I don't have a strong read either way on Pral/NB now.

[csarmi]

Also the beginning of my post got eaten:

 

@Pral - please give us your reads, claims if any

 

I got a more townish read on NB now. His last posts actually contained some game content. His follow-up vote on Pral (#192) is something that I might just like. Seen him do such too.

 

I'm going to vote Dice, I really dislike his posts so far:

[csarmi]

GN everyone :)

[dapianoplay3r]

Yeah it looks like Dap was skimming.

Lol no.

I saw a VC the page before but it was an old one and I didn't account for all th unvotes and changed votes

[Darthe]

Clouds pretty badly trying to undermine Dap. Can't decide if scummy or biased but Dap looks better for it.

[Hallia]

OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT:

 

 

 

Pralaya(4): Lenlo, Cloud, Kaylee, Peace,

 

Csarmi(1): Darthe

 

Cloud(1): Pral

 

Notbob(1): Csarmi 

 

 

 

Not Voting: Quibby, Dice, Dap, Luci, NotBob

 

With 12 alive it takes 7 to lynch.  A deadline has been set for Friday, Sept. 20th at 7pm PST.  

 

[dapianoplay3r]

Clouds pretty badly trying to undermine Dap. Can't decide if scummy or biased but Dap looks better for it.

It started as what I thought was mild buddying lol

It's starting to look more and more like he wants to take me out early

[Kaylee]

@Dap: In the first quote you posted I said that you were planning to convince everyone of your plan, and in the second quote I said that you were trying to lead town. Only in my reply to Pral did I mention that both you and Darthe are leading the town more than I have, and like I already said that is technically true because I haven't been leading at all. I wanted to see how Pral would react to this and if he would consider to vote you or Darthe, because his only reasoning for voting for me was because I was in his opinion leading town.

Bold: Explains that he only mentioned Darthe and Dap as leading town to see how Pral would react.

 

 

 

 

Cloud
This game I've been leading the town far far less than usual. I'd even go as far as to say I haven't been leading the town. Yet you are determined to make people think I am

So far you present that one instance with Darthe. It was just me and Darthe, no one else involved. Yet you say town. So you either are referring to Darthe as town, and therefore are mafia. Or you are just trying to curry favour in some weird way. It doesn't sit right


I won't be joining Rory's train at this point. I'd like to hear more from him first
After that I will probably switch and hammer if his response is lacking. However till then ill try even out the trains a bit, get some more pressure in the mix

unvote vote len

 

I know that you haven't been leading the town as much as you usually do, but you and Darthe still have been leading more than I have because I haven't been doing it at all. That was the point of mentioning you two. I also haven't been referring to Darthe as town at all.

 

Blue: Now the reason for mentioning them both is because both Darthe and Dap have been leading town more than him?

 

Which is it? I'd be willing to switch my vote to Cloud.

[csarmi]

OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT:[/size]

 

 [/size]

 

Pralaya(4): Lenlo, Cloud, Kaylee, Peace, [/size]

 

Csarmi(1): Darthe[/size]

 

Cloud(1): Pral[/size]

 

Notbob(1): Csarmi[/size] [/size]

 

 [/size]

 

Not Voting: Quibby, Dice, Dap, Luci, NotBob[/size]

 

With 12 alive it takes 7 to lynch.  A deadline has been set for Friday, Sept. 20th at 7pm PST.  [/size]

Hally - Isn't NotBob voting Pralaya.

Also - Darthe is voting Pralaya as well. Unless you don't count votes that have been placed without unvoting. I see no reference of that in the rules (I know you have said earlier in thread that you prefer people to unvote, but is it a requirement now? Cause if it is, please announce it).

[Hallia]

Yes it is.  Sorry, I thought it went without saying, as I don't recall a game where you didn't need to. (I know voting while already voting someone is a valid tactic for some.) And no, NotBob unvoted.

[csarmi]

unvote vote Dice

[Hallia]

OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT:

 

Pralaya(4): Lenlo, Cloud, Kaylee, Peace,

Csarmi(1): Darthe

Cloud(1): Pral

Dice(1): Csarmi

 

Not Voting: Quibby, Dice, Dap, Luci, NotBob

With 12 alive it takes 7 to lynch.  A deadline has been set for Friday, Sept. 20th at 7pm PST.