Greek Mythology: Man Vs. Gods [Advanced] - GAME OVER - TOWN WINS!

[mcs0083]

Been really busy for the past few days. Catching up.

[berf]

Finally on your 4th Post about Despo being Mafia you decide to Vote him @ Berf.

 

Well done. Nothing suspicious there at all. Also says a threat to mafia ... not a threat to The Mafia. I think I had you banged to rights in the first place.

 

Unvote - Vote Berf

 

What reason as mafia would I delay voting like that?

 

I had initially pegged Desp as scum, saw some posts I didn't like, posted, then went back and did a full case and voted. 

 

You are really reaching on this

[Ithillian Turambar]

 

 

Finally on your 4th Post about Despo being Mafia you decide to Vote him @ Berf.

 

Well done. Nothing suspicious there at all. Also says a threat to mafia ... not a threat to The Mafia. I think I had you banged to rights in the first place.

 

Unvote - Vote Berf

What reason as mafia would I delay voting like that?

 

I had initially pegged Desp as scum, saw some posts I didn't like, posted, then went back and did a full case and voted.

 

You are really reaching on this

Because you were trying to nudge on Despo and then only voted when I pointed out that you weren't actually voting for the person you were being all suspicious of.

 

Nudger.

 

Total Nudger

[Ithillian Turambar]

 

 

Finally on your 4th Post about Despo being Mafia you decide to Vote him @ Berf.

 

Well done. Nothing suspicious there at all. Also says a threat to mafia ... not a threat to The Mafia. I think I had you banged to rights in the first place.

 

Unvote - Vote Berf

What reason as mafia would I delay voting like that?

 

I had initially pegged Desp as scum, saw some posts I didn't like, posted, then went back and did a full case and voted.

 

You are really reaching on this

Also if you initially had Despo 'pegged as scum' ... hello to the extraneous use of scum btw ... why on earth were you voting Basel.

 

Clearly you would have voted for Despo.

 

Still - it's not all bad. Once you are dead you will have more time for other things. Is all Millhouses yes?

[berf]

You are bored, aren't you.

 

As to the first, I was reading back. And had I noticed the post, I wouldn't have bothered replying anyway

 

As to the second - unfortunately 'scum' has osmosisized into my vocabulary thanks to 3 solid months of mafia. We're not all perfect

 

Is there anything else?

[hazelkrs1]

Oh the labours yall put me through

 

 

 

Wow Berf, you have just... so so many inconceptions about my play and my last few posts. Lemme try and clear them up.

 

Can't tell if trying to softclaim or trying to draw NK

 

 

Desp you are pinging all over the place buddy.You and Basel are my top two fosho. 

 

Where did you get that I was trying to softclaim out of what I said? I put out the info I had about the mafia team being gods pretty early in the game, there was nothing soft about how I revealed that. As for my role, I specifically said that revealing it would nullify its usefulness, ergo I'm not trying to softclaim anything about it at this point.

 

 

Unfortunately, I won't be revealing that at this time Dice, for two reasons: I'm restricted in what I can reveal about my pm because it would make it crazy obvious who I am, and revealing what it is would greatly diminish the effectiveness of my role, pretty much make it of no help to town at all. Also, when I first started talking about the gods being mafia, I hadn't anticipated a Titan claiming, and this actually kind of changes how I have to approach my role.

 

I understand this isn't very helpful, but unfortunately those are the breaks.

 

In my experience, if you don't want speculation growing as to who you are, one shuts up about who one may or may not be.

 

 

On the contrary, if anything I would love speculation as to who my character is. I can't just reveal it however, cause it's freaking against the rules. I would love to just come out and say who I am, and why I know the mafia team subsists of gods, would make this whole thing a lot freaking easier. Unfortunately, I am literally unable to do so.

 

And furthermore you've already 'revealed' that you are a threat to mafia. You are a target. If you didn't want to be a target, you wouldn't have brought any of this up to my mind.

 

This comes from out of nowhere. Where did I complain about being a target? I'm not worried about drawing mafia attention by roleclaiming, I'm pretty sure I already have their attention. And how do you know this isn't all playing out exactly as I had hoped? You just assume that I don't want to be a target, that THAT'S why I'm not revealing any role info at this time.

 

 

I was expecting a bit more from Basel.. He seems to be just giving up while I think there haven't been that many votes on him. Thorum's play is just weird and he seems to be all over the place.

 

 

Despo claims to have some kind of PR that lets him know that the gods are mafia but he isn't voting for Ithi because of her timing when she claimed to be a god?

 

Voting for Ithi would have been way too straightforward. When have you ever seen mafia to be that straightforward, especially when dealing with a player of Ithi's caliber? It's not even like she didn't see what I had been saying and revealed unknowingly. She knew exactly what I was saying, and revealed anyways. This def threw me off. Again, I don't see Ithi as mafia pulling that kind of move. Furthermore we already have precedence for a god being town, because of Hallia. Now I could be wrong, and this could be an elaborate stunt of hers, but even if she is mafia, then voting her just seems too obvious, as if she would want that. Mebbe she's a Vengeful mafia, or a Mani-Mani statue. For now however, my instincts are telling me not to vote her.

 

DESP:

 

 

Claims he has "trapped" Praya. Doesn't seem to go with the case after catching some suspicion for said "trap".

Calls him out for mentioning a 3rd party, and later mentions a 3rd party himself because somehow it was appropriate at that stage and not when Praya bought it up.

Also not happy with Praya for a lot of setup talk, and wouldn't you know it, 6 or 7 or Desp's posts have set up talk in them. Or are entirely setup talk.

 

Switched to MCS vote for 'slipping' out a God claim - signs of an opportunistic distraction.

 

But ultimately, Desp seems to be claiming SOME sort of role. He also previously mentioned that he is hesitant to use a "trap" because they generally backfire and get the Trapper lynched.

 

If you had a juicy town role, why risk your neck and role like that?

 

 

UNVOTE VOTE DESP

 

Underlined: Again, knowing nothing about my role, who are you to say anything about how I'm playing it? This aint my first rodeo. And try this, replace the word town with either mafia or third party, and the sentence pretty much reads the same. In other words, you're really not making any point with that comment. I have reasons for playing the way that I have, and regardless of the fact that at this point even I'M starting to see the EP similarities, I'm standing by those reasons.

 

And I didn't switch off of Pral because I caught heat, I switched because someone seemed more worthy of a vote. New info comes out, and it must be internalized. It's not like the trap I laid was 100% effective, there was always a chance I was wrong about Pral (incidentally, he has kinda disappeared once people stopped mentioning him as much). I'm not going to leave my vote somewhere just because I'd be worried about how others would perceive me changing my vote.

 

I also don't think I was spending nearly as much time as you think on setup talk, it was more flavor talk the whole time. Admittedly, it was becoming a distraction, so I'm trying to keep from focusing on that.

 

Funny thing is, you pretty much summarize by saying I'm claiming SOME sort of role, but not fully revealing... so that makes me scum apparently? Great reasoning there Sherlock.

[Ithillian Turambar]

You think I should unvote you and vote for Despo again?

 

I am very bored - despite being very busy. It's the wrong sort of busy. I would actually be less bored if I were less busy - as long as it was the right sort of busy.

 

I do have other things I would rather be doing.

 

Why should I vote for Despo instead of you?

[berf]

Oh right Basel. 

 

He pegged me earlier. When Desp came in with the soft claim it prompted me to have a closer look at his later posts, and voila Desp rocketed to the top of my mafia candidate list.

 

Your defense of him is noted.

 

Combined with the early WIFOMing of the Innocent role ("We didn't trust it in that game") , and your suggestion not to lynch innactives also, you are climbing the radar yourself Lady.

[hazelkrs1]

I like how I "rocketed" to the top of your mafia list, and yet before I had posted again for a bit you still had me and Basel as your top 2. Sounds like you're changing your story mate.

[Ithillian Turambar]

I'm defending Despo?

 

You have always been able to make me laugh.

[Ithillian Turambar]

I like how I "rocketed" to the top of your mafia list, and yet before I had posted again for a bit you still had me and Basel as your top 2. Sounds like you're changing your story mate.

You have to say g'day if you are calling him mate.

 

And then tie his kangaroo down.

[hazelkrs1]

Actually you so say you then looked at my latest posts, meh.

 

I didn't come out with any softclaim recently btw.

 

Anyhoo I'm off to the lake. Happy Labour Day everyone! Might have some bbq later, I should be cooking up some nice pork

[Basel Gill]

I was expecting a bit more from Basel.. He seems to be just giving up while I think there haven't been that many votes on him. Thorum's play is just weird and he seems to be all over the place.

Really, Cloud? I've said all that I can say. How do you qualify that as me giving up? Ordinarily, I'd let everyone know who my character is, but I can't do that. So my hands are tied as far as defending myself. Really... tell me exactly where I am supposedly giving up. I dare you. I double dare you.

 

Oh right Basel. 

 

He pegged me earlier. When Desp came in with the soft claim it prompted me to have a closer look at his later posts, and voila Desp rocketed to the top of my mafia candidate list.

 

Your defense of him is noted.

 

Combined with the early WIFOMing of the Innocent role ("We didn't trust it in that game") , and your suggestion not to lynch innactives also, you are climbing the radar yourself Lady.

Is this addressed to me, berf? I'd love to hear how I am defending Despo and voting for him at the same time.

[berf]

@DESP -

 

You are claiming Roled Town - I don't believe Roled Town would play a risky play as you are claiming with your trap. It's that simple. There is no role I can think of (pro-town) that would be trying to cop a view/mafia attention whatever. Feel free to provide some examples.

 

And derisory tone noted. Why are you trying to discredit me? Fight the case, not my character.

 

@ITHI - 

 

I don't think making a few cases and changing my vote makes me mafia. I don't think a shift in vocabulary over time constitutes a mafia tell. 

 

I do think Desp is mafia based on the above.

[berf]

Basel no that wasn't directed at you.

 

What is your case on Desp? 

[Ithillian Turambar]

Are you shouting my name?

 

Unvote - Vote Despo

 

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[michellem]

Good morning everyone. 

 

Will post my comments on the weekend throughout the day. I haven't read much further than the posts discussed.

 

 

  I had no say in it, I'm an innocent child.

What do you feel the need to confirm this? Either we believe you are, or we don't. And of course you would want us to believe you are...

 

Excuse me... What? Are you really doubting the mod-confirmed townie? Do you have even the SLIGHTEST idea what an innocent child role is? I forgot to qyote the post now, but you had another where you speculated that the role was to mess with us... That would be bastard modding, and that is very rarely done in DM nowadays, I haven't seen one, and I've played here for over a year.

 

And several people was speculating about if Hallia had asked to be confirmed straight off the bat, or if RTE just decided to do it. She answered those speculations.

 

 

Do you guys need me to make an Ithi case or something?  This really isn't that hard.

Casing on day one? No.

 

Plenty have posted, but still no answer :( : who's Rory?

 

Uhm, what the heck is up with the "no casings on D1"? Don't you think cases are useful on D1? Need I remind you of my case on Rhea in the HP game that got her lynched D1? You should remember that; you were her teammate after all....

 

 

 

Unvote vote Thorum

[berf]

Unnoffical Vote Count:

 

(2)Ithi: Darthe, Cloud

 

(4)Desp: Basel, Thorum, Berf, Ithi

 

(4)Basel: Song, Tina, Wombat, Mish

 

(1)MCS: Desp,

 

(1)Thorum: Mish

 

 

 

Not Voting: Praya, Dice, MCS, Krak, Halli,  (5)

[berf]

@MISH - Those are the scummiest things that have stood out to you so far?

 

Any commentary on... anything else?

[Ithillian Turambar]

Mish always seems to be a bit cross and annoyed. There's an over abundance of punctuation marks and 'what the hecks' and capital letters that I find quite provocative.

 

maybe I'm reading it wrong - but that's how it seems to me and I'm sure it's not always necessary.

[berf]

That you find quite provocative

 

Indeed. Mish, eh?

[Thorum]

 

 

Do you guys need me to make an Ithi case or something?  This really isn't that hard.

Casing on day one? No., unless someone on the mafia team has made a HUGE mistake

 

Plenty have posted, but still no answer :( : who's Rory?

 

Uhm, what the heck is up with the "no casings on D1"? Don't you think cases are useful on D1? Need I remind you of my case on Rhea in the HP game that got her lynched D1? You should remember that; you were her teammate after all....

 

 

 

Unvote vote Thorum

 

Rhea was the first time ever we got a mafia day 1 (with me playing). This has been discussed in a recent game, and the conclusion there was that things had changed. Rhea is not proof enough for that to me.

 

As I explained before, there has been at least one game where mod-given information was wrong (what's the difference between this and a paranoid doctor, btw?); and it would be something I could definitely envision myself incorporating into a game of mine. I'm a bit very much surprised at the intensity with which a lot of people refuse to question this.

[Pralaya]

Ithi seems to be focused on words that were not supposed to said, punctuation marks and semantics,.

 

I hope I didn't mispsell anything !

[Ithillian Turambar]

Ithi seems to be focused on words that were not supposed to said, punctuation marks and semantics,.

 

I hope I didn't mispsell anything !

I'm used to looking at the Micro ... and then I examine the Macro. From little acorns etc ...

 

 

And to be fair - 'twas only Berf I was suspicious of about his use of the word scum. My comments about Mish were more about style of conversational posts that seem to be a little 'baiting'? but maybe that is her aim. I wasn't drawaing any conclusions about her alignment because of that though.

 

I acknowledge that you wish to downgrade any thought of mine and discredit them as small things that should not be paid any attention too - and perhaps even considered a joke.

 

I believe that Turin made you fully aware in your mafia QT with him that I don't joke about reasonings in mafia.

[michellem]

Ithi, you really are not in a position to chastise others for baiting.

 

 

Thorum, I'm not gonna discuss that any further with you before you find yourself a wikia and read about the Innocent Child role. Right now, you are being a nuiscance because of your ignorance.

 

 

Berf, if I had more to comment on, I would have.