Greek Mythology: Man Vs. Gods [Advanced] - GAME OVER - TOWN WINS!

[berf]

@Dice: could you ask the alignment of the clumsy switch?

 

Ithi & Berf - why would you want to lynch Mish?

She looks town, she seems to be telling the truth and just because her role might hurt town (not just maffia), you would waste a lynch?

 

@Mish: are you town?

 

Because see what is happening above.

 

Did that look to anyone else like a mafia meeting and an agreement to bus Mish?

[berf]

And please don't lynch her before everyone checks in. Let's see how this shakes out.

[Thorum]

I believe dice. The main reasoning being that there are only two god-claims. Which means he either KNOWS there's only two, or he made a very good guess as mafia.

 

Apart from that, he's sprouting so much information that it's impossible not to come out as a lie quite early in the game (if it were a lie).

 

 

I don't know Mish's allignment. But her role is SO much worse for town than for mafia (and it is uncontrolable), that we have to get rid of her.

[berf]

"Oh no! They want to lynch MISH - can we save her?"

"Nope. Not without digging ourselves deeper."

"Ok we should bus her"

 

- Mafia QT right now. 100%.

[Thorum]

14 players     unroled roled   3 mafia 2 roled 0,071429 0,142857   10 town 3 roled 0,5 0,214286   1 third 1 roled 0 0,071429                                         good 21%           bad 21%           neutral 57%

 

 

This is the most believable role-distribution where Mish is equally bad for town as for mafia. Two out of three remaining mafia are roled, and third party is roled as well. Also, only 3 town are roled (which would be me, Ithi and Dice).  As soon as town has more roles than this, or mafia less, Mish is bad for town.

[Ithillian Turambar]

Yup ... Dice just Bussed Mish lol

 

and along comes Thorum too.

 

Epic :)

 

 

I thought it was a lame made up reason to vote Cloud lol

[dicetosser1]

shakes head   am I ever gonna be believed to be town?  I swear I could claim cop lead the lynch on 3 mafias and people would still suspect me lol

[berf]

As far as I can tell - 

 

Wombat/Darthe/Tina/Halli/CS/Krak/Song(?)/Cloud?

 

Thoughts please

 

Two days to go I think or thereabouts.

[Thorum]

That looked good in the quick-reply box :(

 

The text is important, as are the percentages at the end of the first line.

[Ithillian Turambar]

How many times do you think they will try to kill me lol?

[dicetosser1]

ithi when i flip make sure you tell me how the egg  on ure face tastes...

[Ithillian Turambar]

shakes head am I ever gonna be believed to be town? I swear I could claim cop lead the lynch on 3 mafias and people would still suspect me lol

I don't like to follow. And I can be quite ... 'the sky is NOT blue dammit!'

[csarmi]

 

Thorum is lying - IE you ain't a Vig. I don't see why Cloud is wrapped up in this and he becomes a liar too, if this is the case? What did I miss?

Praya is lying - Praya is roled of some sort.

Cloud is lying - wasn't even one of my options. Why are you putting words in my mouth?

 

- If I ain't a vig, cloud is lying. THis because no one counterclaimed Vig (well, except me ... )

- which role could praya have that would prevent him from dying?

- You wanted all options, even the ridiculous ones. This option is just as unvalid as the other two.

 

I don't understand how Cloud comes to the picture.

 

But possible ways for the no NK (not regarding Mish claim):

 

- Thorum is Vig ad shot Pralaya, thus Pralaya is maffia with a BPV / NK immunity or a maffia who has been protected by a maffia healer (having a healer on the maffia team is quite normal for games with Vig)

- Thorum is not Vig, in this case the real Vig must have shot Thorum (why wouldn't they), thus Thorum is maffia with a BPV / NK immunity or a maffia who has been protected by a maffia healer (having a healer on the maffia team is quite normal for games with Vig)

 

Retried the maths. As long as there are more roled town than roled "mafia + third party", the odds that Mish is bad for town are greater than that Mish is bad for mafia. I guess that's a save assumption. By quite a margin.

 

unvote and vote Mish

That's a completely faulty logic.

First of all, the maffia roles are usually much more important/powerful/effective because of two reasons:

 

1) They can use them more effectively because they can coordinate their actions on a QT. Having one of those failed can mess up their plans bigtime.

2) Maffia relies on roles / kills (night actions), while town relies on lynch. Lynches can't be blocked.

3) Maffia roles are unknown (they aren't gonna claim them)

 

Secondly, we don't even know if we have more roles available than the maffia.

Also, having some of those be turned off is not a big deal cause the maffia will NOT know which ones would work. For instance, it would be a very foolish idea of them to try and shoot Ithi just because there is some chance of the doc role getting switched off.

 

Also, let's go with play.

Cloud is scummy as hell.

Mish played quite town-line.

 

= lynch Cloud

[Ithillian Turambar]

It's ok to be wrong.

 

But it's better to keep you mind thinking outside of the box. You let yourself be hemmed in and suddenly you are being pushed on rails to places that are not good.

 

besides ... Despo and Mish? I'm feeling alright I think.

[berf]

 

This was fun. I will have to do a reread before this becomes to weighty and see if Dice has been giving out 'verified' info before or after the pertinent reveals. 

 

And the NK situation tonight should be quite interesting  

[Ithillian Turambar]

CSarmi ... Dice just said that he has been told that Mish's claimed role is a Mafia one.

 

So - you don't believe him anymore?

[csarmi]

Thorum, your math is flawed cause you aren't assigning values for the roles. And then we didn't even talk about synergy.

This way, this is a pointless probability theory exersize.

[csarmi]

CSarmi ... Dice just said that he has been told that Mish's claimed role is a Mafia one.

 

So - you don't believe him anymore?

I missed that.

 

*** reads up ***

[Pralaya]

I think we are all getting sidetracked by the issue. I think mish claim is fine (I am guessing Cassandra).

 

Anyway, assuming what mish said is true, I am not sure why berf wants an info lynch. If that happens, he will want to lynch me, thorum and mish one after another and it is very much probable that we will all flip town. We will be playing right into scum hands.

 

I might as well vote someone who I think as scum rather than vote a town because of her ability.

unvote vote cloud

[csarmi]

@Dice: could you ask the alignment of the clumsy switch?

 

Ithi & Berf - why would you want to lynch Mish?

She looks town, she seems to be telling the truth and just because her role might hurt town (not just maffia), you would waste a lynch?

 

@Mish: are you town?

 

clumsy switch  town??  Nope!!!

 

Vote Mish

That fits. The clumsy switch looks like a 3rd party role. That's why I asked Mish if she was town.

[dicetosser1]

my reveal had a lot of info in it. and was before a lot of reveals. i think darthe claimed titan ithi claimed god and despo human before.  not sure about basel.

 

Basel flipped Town titan. I had said all titans are town.

 

I said mafia was 4 major greek gods  despo flipped hades   major greek god and was mafia  

 

 

not sure if vig was claimed first or not.

[csarmi]

Mish - please full claim now.

[dicetosser1]

yet praya just ignored the mish info completely

[csarmi]

Also, if Mish is indeed 3rd party, I'd expect a very thorough explanation on why she omitted that info when claiming Clumsy Switch.

[dicetosser1]

oh and ithi i said she wasnt town   not that she was mafia