November 7th, 1606: Day 4 (CONCLUDED)

Yates · July 18, 2013

The wifom inherent in the claim is obvious tho, you understand what I mean there, right?

Yeah. I mean, that's why I probably wouldn't have changed my vote. But you'd think if he were scum in another thread he'd do something similar. Or claim vengeful or bomb or something like that. But he didn't. So I don't think he was going for wifom, is my point. You dig?

serra · July 18, 2013

Thanks Leelou, you're a darling! (I usually leave an updated vote count in the opening post *hint, hint*)

I've seen nothing to cast doubt on the fact that Salami is scum in at least 1 thread, and I think this thread will give us the best chance.

VOTE: Csarmi

Sure, just make sure you realize that I'm roled up in this thread. It's not a very useful role, but better than nothing.

Why is it the best thread btw?

I unfortunately didn't get around to answering this before the lynch, so this is a bit of a moot point now, but my reasoning can basically be summarised in these points:

Yates' opening is less forced here than in thread 1. From that alone I'd be leaning town here.

This is where Csarmi starts with his "trap" spiel. None of his RVS-y posts have the same confidence as in 1, and I'm pretty sure the trap thing was backpedaling while trying to save face. Covering it up with humour by deliberately misunderstanding Nolder's is a pretty obvious deflection.

If Nol is scum in exactly 1 of his threads, it isn't this one. Unless he's scum in 2 or more threads (which I don't really think is very likely), I have a pretty good townread on him here.

Leelou (and Ish, if that vote was serious): what was it about cloud that made you suspicious early on?

Yates is actually engaging with the game here,

Csarmi's line about scum needing fancy plays, when he claims to have set a trap is hilariously bad. In thread 1, his further posts were at least somewhat reasoned, whereas here he seems less confident, and is ironically getting himself caught in his own web of lies.

Discussing between Yates and chuckles is town for both.

The point by dap about cloud's voting is actually good. Dap can be town here and I very much buy into the cloud/csarmi theory. I have a question though, dap: if you agree that Csarmi is likely scum in this thread, why would you take issue with me wanting to lynch him here rather than in 1? Sure, he MIGHT be scum in both, but I'd think if we've established he's likely scum here, the chance of him being scum in the other threads goes down?

I don't really like peace here. His quotewall is pretty opportunistic. Trying to draw a connection between Leelou and cloud because Leelou voted him is pretty weak. "Early distancing" is a pretty overused buzzword, to be honest. He points fingers at the unreasoned cloud votes, while not doing the same with the Csarmi votes is off.

Csarmi pretends all of his posts have been global (to make it difficult to pin down where he is scum!), but that's clearly not true. He responds to accusations on a thread-by-thread basis (more or less) and those responses have been the most scummy here.

Nolder: why are you not a fan of the staggered lynch? Surely Csarmi's play has simply been indicative of the fact that he's scum in 1 of the threads. If we lynch him somewhere and he flips scum, I think we'd be better off looking elsewhere for the other lynches. If he flips town, we keep going until we find his scum-thread.

Desp's hammer is a bit dodgy, but not quite as bad as some people have been saying. Particularly with these deadlines, initiative is a good thing. I do like Desp's catchup post though, although he could perhaps have been more concrete about some of his reads.

If my post didn't make it clear...Serra is scum in this thread.

*at least in this thread

I'm sorry to disappoint you, but I'm not scum in this or any of the other threads. Csarmi was at 9 votes when I voted him to put him at L-2, that's true. It's also true that he was at 10 votes in thread 1, but I've said (over and over) that I think he's town in thread 1. I had already explained why I thought this was his scum-thread in my earlier post (which I quoted here). With more than 2 days left until the deadline, you can hardly think I would anticipate him being hammered before I'd have the chance to respond to him. I simply wasn't around between my L-2 vote and the lynch, and I really don't see how you're twisting that to mean I must be scum.

Hallia · July 18, 2013

Possibly a scum mate protecting a scum hammer by drawing attention to the person who put Csarmageddon to L-2?

hazelkrs1 · July 18, 2013

The wifom inherent in the claim is obvious tho, you understand what I mean there, right?

Yeah. I mean, that's why I probably wouldn't have changed my vote. But you'd think if he were scum in another thread he'd do something similar. Or claim vengeful or bomb or something like that. But he didn't. So I don't think he was going for wifom, is my point. You dig?

I wasn't saying he was trying to wifom with his claim (I wasn't NOT saying that either, but that's not the point). What I mean is that the inherent wifom in the claim itself wouldn't bother mafia, in fact they'd prob be glad to keep him around longer to use the wifom to their advantage and distract town, and potentially use him as a scapegoat later on. I don't think mafia would see someone claim BPV and say to themselves "Oh man we GOTTA lynch that dude!"

Possibly a scum mate protecting a scum hammer by drawing attention to the person who put Csarmageddon to L-2?

This post is more of a stretch than Stretch Armstrong before the owner inevitably puts him in the microwave. Looks strongly like you trying to breadcrumb a case on me, Scumallia.

FOS. Thank you for making it easier to get some scum reads in this game, I didn't have as easy of a time getting good scumreads on others in this one as I had in T1.

Pralaya · July 18, 2013

Speaking of playing these games collectively, I noticed this before but forgot to mention it. In T1, Wombat dies. T3, Darthe dies. T2, they both die. I think this could end up possibly being significant... like maybe this thread connects the other two in some way.

I could be over analyzing, but I don't really feel they would drop such an obvious hint/clue unless we were supposed to note it.

Well, it might be over analyzing. But, it would be awesome if it is something like Assassin's Creed. IF you are mafia in T1 and you get lynched, your current role in T2 remembers her previous birth and become mafia too. Heh, that would be chaotic.

hazelkrs1 · July 18, 2013

Speaking of playing these games collectively, I noticed this before but forgot to mention it. In T1, Wombat dies. T3, Darthe dies. T2, they both die. I think this could end up possibly being significant... like maybe this thread connects the other two in some way.

I could be over analyzing, but I don't really feel they would drop such an obvious hint/clue unless we were supposed to note it.

Well, it might be over analyzing. But, it would be awesome if it is something like Assassin's Creed. IF you are mafia in T1 and you get lynched, your current role in T2 remembers her previous birth and become mafia too. Heh, that would be chaotic.

Not exactly what I was thinking hehe.

I do have a theory, but I'm keeping it to myself for now

dapianoplay3r · July 18, 2013

I have secret theories too!

But people tend to think im crazy. So i save up the evidence

peacesells · July 18, 2013

I own a copy of Catcher in the Rye.

Just because I am paranoid doesn't mean they aren't after me.

hazelkrs1 · July 18, 2013

You ever see that movie Conspiracy Theory? With Mel Gibson, playing himself...

*rimshot*

Not a bad movie tho. Sad that Mel is such an ahole, he's a really good actor when he tries. Anyhoo dude owned like umpteen copies of Catcher in the Rye.

dapianoplay3r · July 18, 2013

I want a copy

whats the deal with that book. I read it. It was a nice easy read

i enjoyed it

wasnt what i expected though. I thought it was gunna go all the beach or serial killer on me

did i miss something?

peacesells · July 18, 2013

You ever see that movie Conspiracy Theory? With Mel Gibson, playing himself...

*rimshot*

Not a bad movie tho. Sad that Mel is such an ahole, he's a really good actor when he tries. Anyhoo dude owned like umpteen copies of Catcher in the Rye.

Yeah..I was quoting that movie. I've always liked Gibson. Who hasn't said stoopid Sh** when drunk?

I want a copy

whats the deal with that book. I read it. It was a nice easy read

i enjoyed it

wasnt what i expected though. I thought it was gunna go all the beach or serial killer on me

did i miss something?

I never read it...guess I'll wiki it now.

hazelkrs1 · July 18, 2013

Uhm... I think it goes a bit past saying stupid stuff while drunk. He's openly anti-Semitic now.

peacesells · July 18, 2013

never really followed it closely.

dapianoplay3r · July 18, 2013

Uhm... I think it goes a bit past saying stupid stuff while drunk. He's openly anti-Semitic now.

It's possible to like someone's movies and acting even if they are an awful person

I mean I like Disney stuff

hazelkrs1 · July 18, 2013

Uhm... I think it goes a bit past saying stupid stuff while drunk. He's openly anti-Semitic now.
It's possible to like someone's movies and acting even if they are an awful person

I mean I like Disney stuff

Oh I agree. Like I said, Mel is a great actor, and I like a lot of his movies. I mean, come on man. Braveheart? Sweet Jebus.

dapianoplay3r · July 18, 2013

Brave heart was his earlier stuff wasnt it?

Also have you seen beaver (lol. But seriously I'm pretty sure the film was called that)

I haven't but its his newest one isnt it

peacesells · July 18, 2013

I've seen it...wasn't horrible. Kinda sad.

dapianoplay3r · July 18, 2013

I saw the final of the office today

That was weirdly sad

Mid season though was the worst

They did a great thing of breaking the fake broken 4 th wall

lolguy26 · July 18, 2013

this whole page has been spam, and spam that i dont even understand.......

peacesells · July 18, 2013

this whole page has been spam, and spam that i dont even understand.......

You don't understand....

FREEEEEEEEEEEEEDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM! ?

lolguy26 · July 18, 2013

this whole page has been spam, and spam that i dont even understand.......

You don't understand....

FREEEEEEEEEEEEEDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM! ?

i understand

FREEEEEEEEEEEEDOM!!

even watched the movie, the other stuff tho, i dont get

peacesells · July 18, 2013

this whole page has been spam, and spam that i dont even understand.......

You don't understand....

FREEEEEEEEEEEEEDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM! ?

i understand

FREEEEEEEEEEEEDOM!!

even watched the movie, the other stuff tho, i dont get

Which stuff? Jew hate or being drunk and hitting on co-eds? Or being drunk and mouthing of to the police?

Leelou · July 18, 2013

this whole page has been spam, and spam that i dont even understand.......

You don't understand....

FREEEEEEEEEEEEEDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM! ?

i understand

FREEEEEEEEEEEEDOM!!

even watched the movie, the other stuff tho, i dont get

Mel Gibson is insane. And a drunk.

lolguy26 · July 18, 2013

this whole page has been spam, and spam that i dont even understand.......

You don't understand....

FREEEEEEEEEEEEEDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM! ?

i understand

FREEEEEEEEEEEEDOM!!

even watched the movie, the other stuff tho, i dont get

Mel Gibson is insane. And a drunk.

good to know

hazelkrs1 · July 18, 2013

this whole page has been spam, and spam that i dont even understand.......

You don't understand....

FREEEEEEEEEEEEEDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM! ?

I cried a little during that scene.

November 7th, 1606: Day 4 (CONCLUDED)

Recommended Posts

Archived

Stay Connected

Forum Topics

News items

About Dragonmount

Twitter

Facebook