[Basic] VeggieTales Mafia- Game over, Scum Win!

[Darthe]

I was on him earlier and derailed the lynch with peace. Your logic isn't really applicable due to that, why would mafia halt something they started? It's needless drama that risks their endgame.

[_CLOUD]

It is. You derailed Ishy's train with Peace because that was the plan all along. The mafias in this game are Ishy, Peace and you. Now you are trying to put me and TG in a bad light with a bad case and then lynch TG and end the game. I'm not buying it.

[Andrej]

unvote

 

Too much damn WIFOM. The Doc needs to come out already and reveal so we can have a vetted townie.

 

Your silence isn't helping us.

 

I'm going to hold my vote until we get a claim. The DL is approaching too, keep in mind.

[Kaylee]

Official Vote Count

 

Ishy (3/5): TG, Cloud, Mish

TG (2/5): Darthe, Tina

 

Not Voting (3/8): Peace, Ishy, AJ

 

With 8 alive it takes 5 to lynch.

 

Deadline will be Friday 9:30pm AZ time

 

Countdown timer: http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20130322T2130&p0=197&msg=Veggietales+D3

 

Ishy is at L-2

[Darthe]

It is. You derailed Ishy's train with Peace because that was the plan all along. The mafias in this game are Ishy, Peace and you. Now you are trying to put me and TG in a bad light with a bad case and then lynch TG and end the game. I'm not buying it.

 

Thats laughable.  The plan was to risk our own man on the last day?  You're turning a diluted form of what I was saying earlier on me to keep things simple but the situation is different.  

[Darthe]

 

Ishmael Forsaken

 

87

 

Kaylee

 

71

 

Darthe

 

68

 

Andrej

 

66

 

TGlems

 

42

 

peacesells

 

41

 

Songstress

 

33

 

TinaHel

 

33

 

_CLOUD

 

32

 

Misheru Sedai

 

27

 

[michellem]

Damn, I don't think I've ever been the lowest poster in a game.

 

Darthe, I'll follow you this once, and strangle you after the game if you and Ishy are mafia

 

Unvote vote TG

[_CLOUD]

Mish, so you are ready to take a gamble by voting for TG and perhaps throw the game away?? Ishy is the only safe lynch option.

[Kaylee]

Official Vote Count

 

Ishy (2/5): TG, Cloud

TG (3/5): Darthe, Tina, Mish

 

Not Voting (3/8): Peace, Ishy, AJ

 

With 8 alive it takes 5 to lynch.

 

Deadline will be Friday 9:30pm AZ time

 

Countdown timer: http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20130322T2130&p0=197&msg=Veggietales+D3

 

TG is at L-2

[michellem]

No-one's a safe lynch option. The game is wide open. We haven't caught a single mafia so far, and honestly right now it's a roll of the dice to find a mafia. We're 8 players left, so if we mislynch today, we will find mafia tomorrow. If TG is town, then Darthe and Ishy are mafia and we lynch one of them tomorow.

[_CLOUD]

 

There are 8 players left. A wrong lynch can reduce our numbers to 7, the NK to 6. So if there are 3 mafia members (most likely) then they have won the game. In other words, we are at LYLO.

[_CLOUD]

Ishy is the only person everyone agrees must be scum, so he is the only safe lynch option. 

[Darthe]

Which is why that makes no sense.   You just said it yourself.  We have three scum here.

 

If everyone agrees that he is scum then he can't be because that means that mafia agree he is scum.

 

Tina, Peace, Myself, Ishy, One unknown on that train.  Thats the town left.

[Darthe]

Look at how hard it is to get a train on TG.  God we need this.  Mish, are you town?  Really?  You have been so quiet I thought you might not be.

[michellem]

Yes I'm town, and honestly Darthe do I really need to rehash why I've been quiet? We've been through that.

[peacesells]

I am the DOC. Color me town.

 

I'm really unsure of Darthe atm.

[Darthe]

Finally.  And No, Mish.  No need to rehash it just surprised me.  I figure that getting to this point for the mafia has either required inactivity, someone advanced and tactically minded, or a messed up town.  

 

If you aren't mafia then it means that somewhere along the line the town got messed up on its own..  I'm trying to figure that out.

 

Peace, I couldn't be more here.  If I was mafia I would have hammered Ishy.  Tina would have if she was.  The only two possibilities are that the mafia is myself, Tina, and Ishy and we are protecting him or the mafia is Cloud, TG, and AJ.

 

Which makes sense to you?  Think of your reads and everything else, you'll likely decide this game.

[Darthe]

^ meant to add Mish to the list with Cloud, TG, and AJ.  

[peacesells]

Darthe, you would only have hammered Ishy if he wasn't scum. Your quick unvote from him when I unvoted is very suspicious.

 

I've discussed using that tactic to derail a scum lynch before when I was scum. So, I'm thinking it through.

[peacesells]

I am also unclear on how you have been so sure I'm town. You wanna explain that?

[Darthe]

Quite frankly, as a moderator I get to watch a lot of games with full impartial access to what people are doing with their roles, how they play, etc.  Between that and a decent grasp of a few psychological tenets (phrasing of sentences, where people use logic and where they don't, primacy and priming, tendency to correlate) I have incredible meta's on people that I play with.

 

I am not very logical.  I tend to avoid a ton of casing where I can, avoid large conflicts when possible, and tend to die because others can out-argue me online.  

 

But consider how often I am right within a few pages on my scum and town reads for an entire game.  It's about 70%.  I haven't paid a ton of attention to you this game but I never needed to.  You didn't pull any of your scum tells and when you had the opportunity to capitalize on things advantageous for the mafia you didn't do it.

 

I wasn't "certain" until the doctor claim.  But I have had a really good feeling and I've ran with it.

[Andrej]

For the record, I am vanilla town.

 

Too much WIFOM is being created at this point. Ishy's sudden silence is a bad sign IMO.

 

Peace I am glad you claimed finally, but honestly I was hoping it would've been one of the other players under the most scrutiny.

 

A confirmed townie is a confirmed townie though.

[Andrej]

About 27 hours until DL.

 

Looking back, with our Doc revealed, I am going to trust his gut on Ishy. He's been at L-1 twice now and still hasn't gotten lynched. For whatever reason his train keeps dissolving. Darthe, I want to believe that you are a townie but I'm losing faith.

 

vote Ishy

[Kaylee]

Official Vote Count

 

Ishy (3/5): TG, Cloud, AJ

TG (3/5): Darthe, Tina, Mish

 

Not Voting (2/8): Peace, Ishy

 

With 8 alive it takes 5 to lynch.

 

Deadline will be Friday 9:30pm AZ time

 

Countdown timer: http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20130322T2130&p0=197&msg=Veggietales+D3

 

TG and Ishy are at L-2

[John E. Kelley]

Vote Darthe.

 

If it isn't obvious to everyone that he's mafia by now, then I don't know what else to say. Peace convinced me.