[Advanced] US Presidents Mafia - MAFIA WIN

[Sakaea]

Or the mafia are people who have assassinated presidents? Just a thought.

[dapianoplay3r]

How many players are there compared to presidents?

[Lenlo]

The OP said 18 pres sat around a table and there are 18 players, so I would assume everyone is a president.

[Basel Gill]

I've been giving this some thought. Rand hasn't posted much, and he has been bandwagoning. He even seems to admit to bandwagoning here:

 

 

Also, there is a lot of pointing because of the post I made and me bandwagoning.  Let me point out that I was the first to mention that since Ed said PAFO instead of explaining that it was just a normal lynch, I feel like it won't fit the normal rules, therefore will be some sort of gift.  If it was just a normal lynch flavor, then he most likely would have just said that.

 

So I think he is engaging in a bit of conscious following, hoping to make some town cred here. Unvote, vote Rand.

[Tiinker]

Oh sh*t we're voting Rand already?

Deja vu!

[dapianoplay3r]

Atleast it's not you this time lol

 

But yea it happens a lot, I want to hear more from him before I really commit either way

[ed2funy]

Vote Count - Day 1 Elections

 

 

Nolder (2) - Nolder, RandA lThor

Darthe (2) - Lenlo, peacesells

Lenlo (1) - Red2111

RandA lThor (3) - WolfbrotherKronos, dicetosser1, Basel Gill

Tiinker (1) - Darthe

 

Not Voting: John Snow, Lenlo, Song of Ice and Fire, dapianoplay3r, Andrej, Misheru Sedai, Sakaea, Hallia, ReleaseTheEvil, WolfbrotherKronos, Tiinker, Hallia

 

It takes 10 votes to Elect a President.

[Red2111]

how am i not voting and voting at the same time *scratches head*

[RandA lThor]

 

I like to argue with everybody

I'm a people person

that's why you should vote for me

now this, i lold out loud at

 

 

>Also, there is a lot of pointing because of the post I made and me bandwagoning. Let me point out that I was the first to mention that since Ed said PAFO instead of explaining that it was just a normal lynch]/u], I feel like it won't fit the normal rules, therefore will be some sort of gift. If it was just a normal lynch flavor, then he most likely would have just said that.

to the underlined - you sir are a LLL who only has 2 posts in the game so far. this mechanic was already in discussion so you were hardly the first to mention it. lets take your post by the points here. I just looked through the entire thread up to the point where I posted this and did not find one specific reference to the analysis I pointed out with how Ed saying PAFO would mean that he probably had something special going on.  So I guess I'm not the LLL am I?

 

 

 

Oh this is interesting. I can't find where it says we will vote for presidents, but I will assume its true.

first scummy bit is you "assuming its true". why would you be so willing to trusst Nol when he says "it will land us another power". imo, you're trying not to rock the boat buy going witht he flow and blending into what you see as a popular line of thought on thread.

I assumed its true because others also reread and saw that it was there, so since I couldn't find it, I trusted all those people as well.  

 

>I agree with Nolder here.

now you buddy up to Nol on this, alligning yourself with him.

So basically anytime I agree with someone's already voiced opinion I am buddying upto them.  There are three other options.  Either have opinions which are only your own (which is ridiculous), disagree with everything that anyone else says (which is stupid) or just agree with Nolder and quote it or something along those lines instead.  I found that it was easier to just say I agreed with him.

 

If we try to lynch mafia, it might be a normal lynch and we might be one mafia down. However, if it is a power, then we might have just given mafia another power which they did not need.

here you are pushign for the idea and WIFOMing the scenario. you're also trying to capitalize on it by pushing the idea lynching scum = bad move.

No I was pushing the idea that attempting to vote for scum when we weren't sure if it was a lynch is a bad idea.  Two very different things.  You, Red, are excellent at twisting words around.

 

For a town, losing a vanilla town (which Nolder better be to do this), is not as bad, as it is the least loss we can get, and if he gets the power, we will have gained a power role, which would be great.

excepting it that Ed did clarify that elect = lynch. he likely wanted to be politiclaly correct seeing as posting "and Barrack Obama was Lynched" might offend some people and be twisted into racial slander rather than normal mafia lingo.

 

so when it comes down to it, i'd rather "elect" to lynch a person i think is scum, because

 

responding in last quote

Also, if this was just a normal mechanic, I don't think Eddie would have said PAFO, he would just explained it and went on. I feel like this is going to be a gift of some sort, so I will say vote Nolder.

if elect = lynch, then explain exactly how a DEAD person can have a power that can still be used in the game. they are, afterall DEAD.

 

if anything, the role would act more liek a "death gifter" rather than the person being lynched recieving a gifted role. and thats even if Ed's not bastard modding on this point, which i'd not put Ed above just for the lolz. because my bro is an evil mod like that

 

 

 

here is the issue in question, in its complete context. gimminee christmas ya'll are worse than the media at taking crap out of context

responding in the last quote

 

 

Question!

 

We are voting to elect a president? Is this just flavor for the regular mafia lynch mechanic or does the newly elected president have some kind of special power?

Oh, don't be dull. Let me rephrase. Yes and PAFO, respectively to Nolder's question.

so Yes, Elect IS a flavor name for the regular mafia lynch mechanic.

 

PAFO is about the newly elected president having some kind of special power. nothign abotu RECIEVING a power from beinf lynched, abotu if they HAVE a power.

 

most of us have powers in this game correct? some powers might even be special. so where the president thats lynched HAS a special power will depend on who is lynched. hence the PAFO

ok, I did misinterpret this then.  I believed that the yes was just to mention that we are voting to elect the president, and the PAFO was for the rest of his questions.  All that happened here was a little rearrangement of the questions.  Actually mod confirmation(please) that the yes was in fact intended for "Is this just the flavor lynch for the regular mafia lynch?" and not for "We are voting to elect a president?" would be helpful.  Anyways, if it was in fact for the just for the flavor lynch for the regular mafia lynch, then I take back voting for Nolder and agreeing for testing this, because what will obviously happen is we will lynch town.  Now we move onto the death gifter idea.  Will Ed be giving them a power right before they die?  Because if he does, then although lynching mafia will be beneficial, we are going to have to try and find out what kind of powers they will be given, or their team. 

 

ladies and gents, i do believe the press core from MSABC has come into the cube with us, taking crap out of context like this to suit their own agenda.

 

Anyways, Dice's quick switch from thinking I am scummy, to then seeing Red's case, believing that I am scummy, and then switching his vote to me is really weird.  If we follow the logical process here, the only thing that Red's case could do was make him think I was scummy.  However according to this

 

 

 

Every time i think rand is scummy near the beginning of a game im wrong so im going to hold off on him as he seems scummiest to me atm

 

he already thought I was scummy.  Therefore, nothing about Red's case could have changed his mind, because he already thought that was scummy.  The only impact that could have changed his vote is input from his teams (which we have no way to verify, and if he had some, he would be mafia) or this

 

 

 

also, dice's attempt to distance himself from Rands lynch and cya himselve to help stall a lynch on a fellow scum-mate is noted.

 

tell me dice, are you Barrack Hussien Obama *lifts eyebrow ina questioning mannor* dont make me get the congress to subpenia your butt.

 

These two lines of pressure was all it took for Dice to change his entire attitude on how he thought I was scummy but didn't want to vote for me.  There was literally nothing else.  So if Ed confirms the PAFO thing, my vote will go to Dice.  For now, major major FoS on you.  Also, Ed, I bolded, underlined, italicized, changed the font name and size for the mod confirmation just to make sure you caught that and it didn't blend into the rest of the quote.

[peacesells]

Well lets set one thing straight. Impeached presidents are not a criteria for scum.

[peacesells]

Me bet, knowing Ed that democratic presidents are scum.

 

Everyone who is a republican president say Aye.

 

 

Aye.

[hotpocket2006]

Red i work for NSW courts...would you like me to file your subpoena??  thatll be $72.

 

no im not obama. And actually Red you did me a favor   like i said I have been majorly wrong about Rand lately hence why i was holding off but you small WoT there clarified some things for me. And I agree that hes a LLL.

 

Dice puts his vote where his mouth is vote Rand

 

 

also, dice's attempt to distance himself from Rands lynch and cya himselve to help stall a lynch on a fellow scum-mate is noted.

 

tell me dice, are you Barrack Hussien Obama *lifts eyebrow ina questioning mannor* dont make me get the congress to subpenia your butt.

 

 

I hate the multiquote function now, bottom quote goes on top.

 

Dice you're going to let Red bully you into voting someone? That's very interesting. DO you care to point out the things she said that clarified some things for you?

[dapianoplay3r]

I don't actually know the answer to that lol

Far too much googling of my president will be needed

[ed2funy]

how am i not voting and voting at the same time *scratches head*

 

Welcome to the Twilight Zone? 

 

 

 

 

Rand, can you please single out your question(s)? Thanks. 

[ed2funy]

Now, everyone has checked in, but Andrej's wife (partner? I don't know. Power to the people) has also checked in to the hospital and he is expecting a baby soon.

 

(Not sure if she actually is in the hospital, it just flowed).

 

So, we need a replacement for Andrej. Anyone know any takers? 

[Red2111]

*shakes her big stick at Song* i'm not bullying, i'm scum hunting.

 

 

will get to Rand when i get home. i just had to ask before anyone else

 

@ Ed - so ai can haz 2 votes *grins*

 

Well lets set one thing straight. Impeached presidents are not a criteria for scum.

 

so are you a tricky dick or do you just have a pension for cigars and interns

 

not a true fishing, just couldn't pass up the opportunity to post that *snorts with laughter*

 

 

Aye.

[Basel Gill]

Congrats, Andrej.

[RandA lThor]

Well lets set one thing straight. Impeached presidents are not a criteria for scum.

 

Oh yes and this.  Obviously presidents would notice each other, so flavor wise, I think it is not probably to have people who are not presidents disguised as presidents.  It could happen, but I don't think it is probable.  That leaves us with two options, either something factual about the president, or, as Red says, some of Ed's personal opinions about presidents, such as Obama.  However, to Red I say this, if Obama was in fact scum, why would he be the main protagonist of the story.  Generally, scum don't get kidnapped, or are used as examples of how other presidents are acting or so on.  And since you seem to think that this is based off of what Ed thinks, and he didn't have Obama as scum, I don't think that idea is plausible.  Therefore I think it will be about something factual.  That moves me onto various sorts of different types of things.  I agree with this

 

 

 

Well lets set one thing straight. Impeached presidents are not a criteria for scum.

 and don't think that impeached presidents or any presidents impeached will be scum, because I can only think of two from the top of my head.  I think I am wrong, but I am too lazy to look it up.  Anyways, I think it will be based off of presidents that as Americans look back, they as a country don't look too favorable upon.  Nixon might be one of those regardless of his impeachment, and perhaps Andrew Jackson as well for his actions to the Native Americans and so on.  Anyways, this will mean that we cannot put too much worth into claims as there are multiple sides of what a president could have done wrong or so on.  Here is a link to the Wikipedia list that we may want to use at some point.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_rankings_of_Presidents_of_the_United_States

 

Anyways, I think that we should deal with what sort of data presidents will be ranked on from a claim by claim basis.

 

OK, and for Ed. 

 

Mod Question:   Was the yes was in fact intended for "Is this just the flavor lynch for the regular mafia lynch?" or"We are voting to elect a president?" in the following quotes.

Nolder:

Question!

 

We are voting to elect a president? Is this just flavor for the regular mafia lynch mechanic or does the newly elected president have some kind of special power?

 

 

Oh, don't be dull. Let me rephrase. Yes and PAFO, respectively to Nolder's question. 

 

Mod Question(I will probably get a PAFO, but you have to try, right?): If someone is elected/possibly lynched will they get a power right before they die to use?

[RandA lThor]

Oh yes, and congrats Andrej!

 

 

 

 

*shakes her big stick at Song* i'm not bullying, i'm scum hunting.


will get to Rand when i get home. i just had to ask before anyone else

@ Ed - so ai can haz 2 votes *grins*
 

Well lets set one thing straight. Impeached presidents are not a criteria for scum.

so are you a tricky dick or do you just have a pension for cigars and interns

not a true fishing, just couldn't pass up the opportunity to post that *snorts with laughter*


Aye.

 

[Red2111]

 

still the best poltical meme eva!

[Tiinker]

*shakes her big stick at Song*

 

 

 

Not at the table Carlos!

[hotpocket2006]

 

*shakes her big stick at Song* i'm not bullying, i'm scum hunting.

 

 

will get to Rand when i get home. i just had to ask before anyone else

 

@ Ed - so ai can haz 2 votes *grins*

 

Well lets set one thing straight. Impeached presidents are not a criteria for scum.

 

so are you a tricky dick or do you just have a pension for cigars and interns

 

not a true fishing, just couldn't pass up the opportunity to post that *snorts with laughter*

 

 

Aye.

 

I know that you aren't technically bullying Red (I would laugh if I ever saw you trying to bully someone), but the fact is he let himself be bullied into voting and he didn't even clarify why. 

 

 

 

Also Aye

[Tiinker]

That was the greatest meme I've ever seen in my entire life..

[Tiinker]

And aye.

[ed2funy]

Mod Question:   Was the yes was in fact intended for "Is this just the flavor lynch for the regular mafia lynch?" or"We are voting to elect a president?" in the following quotes.

Nolder:

Question!

 

We are voting to elect a president? Is this just flavor for the regular mafia lynch mechanic or does the newly elected president have some kind of special power?

 

 

Oh, don't be dull. Let me rephrase. Yes and PAFO, respectively to Nolder's question. 

 

Mod Question(I will probably get a PAFO, but you have to try, right?): If someone is elected/possibly lynched will they get a power right before they die to use?

 

 

Yes and PAFO were for each question, respectively. 

 

And PAFO to your own. 

 

 

 

Also, those of you who are trying to figure out what I would have done or not, just remember, Kate thought up most of this game, so double whatever diabolical-ness you associate with me for her, and then add it to mine.