Perrin's Arc (Full Spoilers)

[northstar0]

https://twitter.com/BrandSanderson/status/294209343912546308

 

Thanks for the perspective from Sanderson.

 

I'm starting to think that, out of the 3 ta'veren, Mat got the raw deal.

 

Perrin becomes far more powerful as a result of TG without sacrificing much of anything.  Rand walks away from the whole thing, and you could argue that he sacrificed the ability to channel, but apparently he has something even better than that now.  Then there's Mat who gave up an eye (and his friend Noal), plus he has to deal with bloody insane Seanchan for the rest of his life.

 

Maybe the symmetry was never meant to be perfect, but it seems too far askew to even be called symmetry at the end.

[Ataxia]

Perrin lost his entire family and his best friend. Lets not even add in the fact that he lost his mother/father in law? as well. He did end up quite powerful, but that power ended up with the right person. Rand...well I don't even need to get into that. If anyone deserved to walk away, it was him. Mat never wanted to stay in the TR. He wanted to leave and go on an adventure. He found a woman he cares about and is now one of the greatest generals ever. As far as his eye is concerned, even Tuon admits it will help him dealing with the Seanchan. Noal? He became a Hero and saved Olver. Raw shaft? Nah, he got what he wanted.

[jjp]

 

 

Did he damage himself (spiritually or whatever you want to call it) by first entering T'A'R in the flesh via gateway, and then by manifesting the ability to do so whenever he wants?

 

All the Wise One's talk about "It is EVIL" can't be just random superstition, can it? Almost all of the superstitions in WoT turn out to have a basis relevant to their world. Were there other parties (not influenced by Wise Ones) who agreed it was evil? It seems like there were, but I can't remember if they were actually independent or just repeating what they heard. The other relevant point is that the only other entity that had this ability was something that the DO personally crafted into Slayer. That would lend weight to the argument that the ability is associated with evil.

https://twitter.com/BrandSanderson/status/294209343912546308

That's BS.

 

Turns out it's no big deal?

 

Why would it even be considered evil???

[shortkut]

If you die when in TAR in the flesh, you die the final death. Calling it evil was probably one of the only warnings that survived being passed down over the years

[Swigaro]

The Wise One's views are, I belive also based on what people who entered TaR in the flesh did while they were there, as well.  It was used for evil purposes, thus it is evil.  Don't have a quote on hand, but I think Amys, Bair and company said something to this effect to Egwene before she figured out how to enter TaR, physically...

[Aulduron]

Yeah, I believe it has to do with what the Forsaken did in TAR while there fully.

[Paul H]

This has probably already been said, but I'll throw in my two cents on Perrin in AMoL:

 

1.  I got a bit tired of the Perrin/Slayer battles in Tel'aran'rhiod.  They were very cool for a while in ToM, but by the end of AMoL, I had had more than enough.

 

2.  I thought it was lame and disappointing that Perrin slept through the Last Battle.  Yes, it makes sense in context of what he had been doing, and yes I know he really didn't have a choice at that point.  But still, I would have liked to see the plot tweaked so that Perrin wasn't snoozing in a comfortable bed while many of the men who recently had been under his command got killed.

 

3.  I really started to worry about poor Gaul, remaining behind in Tel'aran'rhiod for what seemed like about half of the book.  I kept reading chapter after chapter, thinking, "What happened to Gaul?  Did Perrin forget about him?  Did Brandon and Team Jordan forget about him?"  :-)  I was glad to see that the book did eventually get back to him.

[nathabj]

I agree that I hated Perrin sleeping, or even just being detached from his people in general after Rand says he is a king that lives among them. I wish he had been with them in the battle. Actually, I kinda wish there had been some way Rand was there too, ya know, like the confrontation happened something like the opening of lotr with sauran and Rand could be battling and when he is fighting either moridin or when he pulls the dark one into the pattern...anyway, back to the topic at hand. I was reading somewhere that there was a story about perrin going into the ways and the ogier driving off machin shin. I wish they had done this so that perrin could have had more story line than sleep, kill slayer, and out of no where kill lanfear. Would have preferred he be more involved and I think that story could have done it. But I get it, if Perrin had killed slayer in the last book and had figured out how to go in and out of the dream world then, he wouldve been way too powerful for the last book. And after seeing it in Perrin, I realize slayer was WAY underpowered in this series. He couldve been killing people left and right. It didnt have to be just hunting rand...He couldve killed all the kings and queens, the amyrlin, logain, tuon, aes sedai, ashaman, basically anyone he could pop into their bedroom while they slept. really, alot of people were really easily accessible in these books. Most weren't constantly teleporting like rand. And if perrin had this power, he could pop up right behind demandred and kill him, or taim. Yeah, I suppose they did the right thing.