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Posted

This was said far better than I could put it by Elgee, so I hope she does't mind my quoting her.

 

In Character hierarchy at the White Tower

 

 

There have been various systems used over the years to determine the In Character Hierarchy at the White Tower, but this is the one that is now in use (remember that Accepted and Novices are right at the bottom wink.gif):

 

 

Amyrlin

 

Keeper

 

Head (of YOUR Ajah)

 

Sitters (of ALL Ajahs, ranking by age within the Hall) / Mistress of Novices (only with regards to N&A matters)

 

OP Strength / Temporary Position (for instance Ambassador or delegation leader)

 

 

Remember the gradations, "secret" positions, and other difficult cases:

 

Gradations:

 

Joan Sedai of the White Ajah is the weakest in the OP in the whole Tower. She has to defer to every single other sister. However, her deductive reasoning and skill at Daes Dae'Mar is brilliant, so she is chosen to be a Sitter. Everyone in the White Tower who is NOT a Sitter (or the White Head) now defers to her. In the Hall itself, she is somewhere in the middle age-wise, which puts her somewhere in the middle in the Hierarchy there.

 

Pam Sedai is of middling Strength, and is put in charge of a delegation of sisters to the Seafolk. There are sisters of greater Strength than her in this delegation, but they defer to her for the duration of the delegation. She might take advice from the sisters with her, but would pay greater heed to the advice of the Stronger sisters, over that of the Weaker ones.

 

Former Wilders and Salidar novices:

 

Former Wilders are generally regarded slightly lower than where their Strength in the OP should put them. Aes Sedai who were Salidar novices will be regarded in the same way, due to their “forcing” and speedy raising. Some (if not most) will feel that they did not learn all they should have.

 

Secret Positions:

 

The Ajah Heads are only known to the members of their own Ajahs. For instance, a White would not defer to the Brown Ajah Head, because she wouldn't know her as such.

 

All members within an Ajah would defer to their Head, though, even Sitters ... except for voting in the Hall.

 

Even there, some Heads have more control than others. The Red Head traditionally has absolute control (even regarded as equal in position to the Amyrlin by her own members), but there can be a fine tussle between Sitters and Heads where it comes to voting in the Hall.

 

The Keeper:

 

She is technically just a glorified secretary, with no more power than the Amyrlin chooses to give her. BUT! She has the ear of the Amyrlin, and everyone has to go through her to get to the Amy. In such a case, when in doubt, being polite is politic wink.gif

 

The Mistress of Novices:

 

She only has charge over the Novices and Accepted. Technically. But any sister who has contact with said N/A, will be watched by her like a hawk. Any sister can also be sent to her for Mortification of the Flesh, which again means it's only politic not to pee her off too much wink.gif

Posted (edited)

The White Tower Roleplay Group Staff

RP Group Leader: Kathleen

Bio Checker: ----
Webmistress: Taei



RP IC & OOC Staff:

Mistress of Novices: Chaelca

OOC MoN: Chaelca

Black Ajah:

 

Head OOC: Kathleen

Sitters (Council):

  • None Active

Blue Ajah:

Head OOC: ----

Sitter OOC: NSW (currently Kathleen)

Sitter OOC: ----

  • IC Sitter:

Sitter OOC: ---

  • IC Sitter:

Brown Ajah:

 

Head OOC: ----

  • IC Head (First Chair): Undecided NSW Character (formerly Carina al'Tara (Mystica))

Sitter OOC: Mystica

Sitter OOC: NSW (Currently Not Held)

  • IC Sitter: Sada Kuchim

Sitter OOC: NSW (Currently Not Held)

  • IC Sitter: Sarita Kalian

Gray Ajah:

Head OOC: ---

OOC Sitter: Lavinya

  • IC Sitter: Pia Tovisen

OOC Sitter: NSW (Currently Not Held)

  • IC Sitter: Freja Peyrodin

OOC Sitter: NSW (Currently Not Held)

  • IC Sitter: Ziya Asynawa

Green Ajah:

OOC Head: U4ea (Loraine/Lor)

OOC Sitter: U4ea

  • IC Sitter: Loraine Kilaine (U4ea)

OOC Sitter: Rasheta Ardashir

  • IC Sitter: Rasheta Ardashir

OOC Sitter: ---

  • IC Sitter: ---

Red Ajah:

 

OOC Head: Jagen Sedai

  • IC Head (Highest): Undecided NSW Character (formerly Zarinen Rafaliva (Elgee))

OOC Sitter: Tigara

  • IC Sitter Jasmyne Ceres

OOC Sitter: Elgee

  • IC Sitter: Larindhra Reyne

OOC Sitter: Jagen

  • IC Sitter: Jagen Halin

White Ajah:

OOC Head: ----

OOC Sitter: ----

OOC Sitter: NSW (Currently Not Held)

  • IC Sitter: Umeka Marhadi

OOC Sitter: Taei

  • IC Sitter: Tayva ni Ayvery t'Reyon (? - Former Ajah Head)

OOC/IC Sitter: Taeadra Culthane (unsure if this is a Handle or a Character)




Yellow Ajah:

OOC Head: Kathleen

  • IC Head (First Weaver): Desandre Casban (NSW - Currently played by Kathleen)

OOC Sitter: Wayward_fool (Boopsy)

  • IC Sitter: Camigwen Klatsang Marivin (Former Ajah Head)

OOC Sitter: Eqwina

  • IC Sitter: Eqwina al'Caupthn

OOC Sitter: Nynaeve

  • IC Sitter: Nynaeve Maryim

The Keeper of Chronicles:

IC Only Role Held By: Chaelca

  • IC Keeper: NSW TBA

The Amyrlin Seat:

IC Only Role Held By: Kathleen

  • IC Amyrlin Seat: NSW TBA
Edited by Kathleen
  • 2 years later...
Posted (edited)

I hope it's okay to post on this topic. Just surprised to see myself listed as a Sitter still. Pleasantly surprised. Oh I plan on being active from now on, yes. :) I see we don't have a Red Highest? *o*

Edited by Jagen Sedai
Posted

Unless they have actually stepped down, or we have had interest in someone else filling a position, we leave all characters at the level they were when they left. That said, there will likely be discussion with the member when they come back as to retaining the position.

  • 2 years later...
Posted (edited)

well, this is what i saw too ! :biggrin:

Edited by Chaelca
Posted

I'm pretty sure that Shavara was a PC character. We've switched over to nsw's so that would be out of date. Whoever we do end up coming up with as our nsw will come in to power after that person.

 

we will make reference to the nsw. But because we don't have a bio yet we should keep details as to the aJah they came from the appearance Etc out of it.

Posted

Shevara was a PC, yes. One of Muirenn's characters. I don't think she's been used since the Bowl of Winds or the BT/WT Bonding RPs. But as Kat said, NSW characters for the win!

Posted

Now i understand ! sorry... lol

 

So since my MoN is of the same Ajah as the Amyrlin, i'll keep on not writing about the color of her shawl :tongue:

Posted

Now i understand ! sorry... lol

 

So since my MoN is of the same Ajah as the Amyrlin, i'll keep on not writing about the color of her shawl :tongue:

Ooh if tge bio says its the same ajah we will go with it. What ajah is it?

Posted

the bio says nothing else that the MoN should be of the same ajah as the amyrlin, nothing more.

 

reading it I think that she could be a red, or a green, ... brown or white would be weird. Want me to link you to the bio ?

Posted

Talina is Red because she would have been chosen by Shevara who was also Red and Amyrlin in the present timeline as I understand it.

 

Valeri's bio has no Ajah mentioned... deliberately... so that she can fit in with any Amyrlin. She's played in retro so she wouldn't know the same Amyrlin as Talina. I presume that's all been taken into account in the RP's? Or have you been fudging things?

Posted

For some reason, I had this copied form... somewhere. I know we don't have a Salidar, so I don't know how it got arranged like this at all:

 

Amyrlin: Shevara Edosian [Red] [Played by Muirenn]

Keeper: Raslyn Altearin  [Red] [Played by Kara_J]

 

Mistress of Novices:

Valeri Kinaea || The Mistress of Traditional Novices ||Played by OOC MoN

Talina Odile Bolaine || The Mistress of Salidar Novices ||Played by OOC MoN

Posted

For some reason, I had this copied form... somewhere. I know we don't have a Salidar, so I don't know how it got arranged like this at all:

 

Amyrlin: Shevara Edosian [Red] [Played by Muirenn]

Keeper: Raslyn Altearin [Red] [Played by Kara_J]

 

Mistress of Novices:

Valeri Kinaea || The Mistress of Traditional Novices ||Played by OOC MoN

Talina Odile Bolaine || The Mistress of Salidar Novices ||Played by OOC MoN

We do have Salidar novices. They hare novice in main time line and can be any age.

 

Both mins at nsw charactors. I believe both thr amy and keeper are pc and need to bw replaced.

Posted

The Salidar novices were introduced to account for the White Tower recruiting older women who could channel. Like some of the women collected by the rebels in Salidar in the Books. Hence the name. I believe when she was RGL, it was Elgee's way of bringing us somewhat back in line with the books despite our lack of an actual Salidar. 

Posted

Yep, they definitely are. Anyone joining the WT can choose which type of novice bio to submit.

 

But it does mean that the Salidar MoN is current plus up to 5 years in retro whereas the Traditional MoN is completely in retro, so have to watch that they aren't referencing the same people.

Posted

Talina is Red because she would have been chosen by Shevara who was also Red and Amyrlin in the present timeline as I understand it.

 

Valeri's bio has no Ajah mentioned... deliberately... so that she can fit in with any Amyrlin. She's played in retro so she wouldn't know the same Amyrlin as Talina. I presume that's all been taken into account in the RP's? Or have you been fudging things?

lol no fudges here at all.

 

 i have never mentioned her ajah or hinted about it! :biggrin:

Posted

Fair enough, :smile:  I was more curious about the retro/current thing and different Amyrlins for each MoN rather than the Ajah issue. I'm guessing you don't really have active Salidar novices at the moment anyway?

Posted

I have had only 1 novice and she's not active anymore ^^

and she isn't a salidar novice, so it's pretty easy for far :tongue:

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