[ADVANCED] KaeKey Game of Thrones Mafia - GAME OVER! NIGHT'S WATCH WINS!

[Songstress]

*points at Rand*

 

MARSHMALLOW THIEF.

 

Must be mafia.

[John E. Kelley]

*disgusted with spammy posts that have no substance*

[Gabriel Kross]

*points at Rand*

 

MARSHMALLOW THIEF.

 

Must be mafia.

 

 

Actual based on actual game info and Rand replacing WoT13, he is mafia.

[John E. Kelley]

Isn't Despo doing an audit?

[hazelkrs1]

Isn't Despo doing an audit?

 

Just finished not too long ago.

 

Btw, I don't mean the kind of audit from the irs or anything, it's part of my job

 

*points at Rand*

 

MARSHMALLOW THIEF.

 

Must be mafia.

 

 

Actual based on actual game info and Rand replacing WoT13, he is mafia.

 

Oooh I meant to comment on this before

 

When I had gone back to check on the win conditions thing, from the way it had first looked to me wot13 got in trouble for doing something involving the win conditions, like maybe quoting her role pm or something like that (the second infraction was editing her post). But after examining it again, it does make it seem more likely that the thing she got in trouble for was posting before R&Ring her role pm, as Rand 2.0 suggested.

 

And I don't get full content notifications btw, and from what Rand said I think that is something you can check on other people I guess

 

I'm not trying to let Rand off the hook completely, I'm still wary of any replacement. But the initial thing that made me think he was likely scum now doesn't seem as solid.

[John E. Kelley]

Done with waiting on cases.

 

Vote BG.

 

I wasn't convinced tonight.

 

Those that don't want to play on Friday nights have no one to blame but themselves.

[John E. Kelley]

WoT got in trouble for posting before Key and Kae said we could. That's all. Nothing more.

[Gabriel Kross]

Done with waiting on cases.

 

Vote BG.

 

I wasn't convinced tonight.

 

Those that don't want to play on Friday nights have no one to blame but themselves.

 

My case didn't convince you?

[John E. Kelley]

Done with waiting on cases.

 

Vote BG.

 

I wasn't convinced tonight.

 

Those that don't want to play on Friday nights have no one to blame but themselves.

 

My case didn't convince you?

 

You're thinking that Darthe is the way to go?

 

Lemme know, I have no doubt that you're Town bro....

[Gabriel Kross]

Done with waiting on cases.

 

Vote BG.

 

I wasn't convinced tonight.

 

Those that don't want to play on Friday nights have no one to blame but themselves.

 

My case didn't convince you?

 

You're thinking that Darthe is the way to go?

 

Lemme know, I have no doubt that you're Town bro....

 

Yea dude, I posted a mini case on him let me go quote.

[hazelkrs1]

WoT got in trouble for posting before Key and Kae said we could. That's all. Nothing more.

 

Hate to be the Devil's Advocate, but check this out:

 

WoT13, because you managed to break 2 rules before the game had even technically started, you must post in rhyme for the rest of Day 1.

One more rule infraction will result in a modkill.

 

Kae saying she broke 2 rules before the game had even started means it couldn't have been one thing

 

Plus I seriously doubt one of the things she got in trouble for was posting before Kae and Key said we could. It didn't say not to post yet in the OP, and wot13 posted at the same time that the second post came in (both at 5:32 pm). So for wot13 to get punished for essentially being ninja'd seems very unfair to me.

 

In fact, I retract what I said a little bit ago about that thing involving wot13/Rand. Hold on a sec

[Gabriel Kross]

Well I have a pretty strong case against Darthe even w/o the whole not commenting on my suspicion of him thing.

 

He starts the game off defending me weirdly against the obligatory back and forth me and Desp were bound to have (it happens every game). Then when heat dies down on me he buddies up to me agreeing with the majority of my reads. (ignoring the Darthe read.) Consistently refuses to case BG though he continuosly says he will. As the game progresses he starts to throw suspicion on me, even ignoring Nolder's claim to have Mod-confirmed info it was pretty obvious at that point that I was town. Several subtle defenses of Verbal throughout the game in the form of attempting to discredit me. Then the blatent defense of Verbal by activating his gladiator ability. Ignores the possibilty that BG really could be Gendry, who I think would be town.

 

Here was my case rehash on Darthe.

[hazelkrs1]

You may now post. In the Game of Thrones, you win, or you die.

 

R&R to your role PM before posting.

 

Town win condition: You win with the town when all threats to the town have been removed.

 

Mafia win condition: You win when you gain a voting majority.If some of your role pm win conditions are worded differently, it was my mistake.

 

THESE ARE THE CORRECT WIN CONDITIONS.

 

woops

 

So here's the original incident. Well, not original actually, since both of these posts have been edited and everything, but they haven't been edited since I went back and saw them for the first time.

 

If you notice the time stamps, they posted at the same time, so it's very likely that wot13 was ninjad by the mod.

 

Rand responded recently with this:

 

I had diferent reasons for suspecting WoT13, one of which being Desp commenting on that edited post she made at the very beginning of the game stating what her post was actually about. (Why we let her live at that point is beyond me)

 

Her reason for edited post is because she realized that she was not supposed to post before Kae said it was OK. If you remember, I did the same thing in the Operation Domination game, except I edited when I realized I posted with my alt. Breaking two rules at the same time, thats what Kae was talking about. Posting before and editing.

 

First of all, Rand is speaking as if he knows exactly what went down with the situation. Obviously this might be because, being the replacement to wot13, he could have been added to the original pm, but personally I think it might be because the incident was discussed on a QT.

 

The reason I initially thought the incident made wot13 look very scummy was that Kae seemed to have added, in all caps nonetheless- "THESE ARE THE CORRECT WIN CONDITIONS". Wot13's sheepishness made me think that she had asked something involving the win conditions, or perhaps quoted hers or something. Later on if I'm not mistaken Kae added that the mafia win conditions might not have been exactly the same, but that this was just a mistake.

 

Recently, I flip flopped on this issue, cause I hadn't thought about the actual reason for her getting into trouble (besides the edit thing) was that she posted before we were told we could. But then once I saw the timestamps, this didn't really hold up. I doubt Kae would have scolded and punished wot13 for getting ninja'd. Mebbe because one infraction was minor, the PR was mainly for editing, but this doesn't seem to be what happened in light of everything else.

 

So yeah, Rand is back atop my scum list.

[hazelkrs1]

Razen, Rand, and Rasel, I mean Basel, are my top three for mafia

[John E. Kelley]

The original bitch slap by Key and Kae means little to me.

 

WoT posted before my ladies said she could. That's it.

 

Reading more into it means making crap up for the sake of making crap up. None of it means anything to me.

[hazelkrs1]

The original bitch slap by Key and Kae means little to me.

 

WoT posted before my ladies said she could. That's it.

 

Reading more into it means making crap up for the sake of making crap up. None of it means anything to me.

 

Seems like you're not reading my posts if that's really all you have to say.

 

Kae herself said wot13 broke 2 rules, not one. And do you really think Kae would punish a newer player for essentially getting ninja'd?

[John E. Kelley]

Kat wouldn't cripple a first time player, no.

 

You thinking that she would is B.S.

 

WoT's rule breaking is a newbie's issue, not a scum issue.

 

These idea's that Kae and Key would ruin the game of someone that merely jumped the gun is insulting. Beat it, weirdo.

[hazelkrs1]

 

I don't think either mod would cripple a first time player

 

And I never said the fact that wot13 messed up in the first place was because she is/was scum. I think she messed up cause she is new. But I also think it's possible that her messup involved something that could also involve her being mafia, as in quoting a mafia win condition that was diff than someone else's or something wacky like that.

 

And fyi YOU'RE the one suggesting Kae and Key would punish wot for jumping the gun. And it's not like it would be "ruining the game" even if that were the case; they gave her a very light punishment honestly, a rhyming PR isn't that tough to keep up with

 

I'm saying I doubt they WOULD punish her for jumping the gun, when she didn't know there was a gun she had to wait for. There isn't anything in the 1st post that says you have to wait first, and she posted at the same time the second post came out, which is the one that told everyone they had to R&R their role pm before posting.

 

And why so hostile bro?

[michellem]

Woooh, 8 pages since I went to bed? And I missed drunk mafia again!

 

I still think BG has presented the best case actually. Darthe's posting has... this sense of desperation. Getting pouty when no-one comments his case. He seems to be flailing a little bit.

[peacesells]

Despo you are barking up the wrong tree. I saw the original post and it had nothing to do with game play. Something to the effect of being excited the game had started.

 

And she wasn't ninjad by the mod. The first rule broken was for posting when the mod had said not to. The second was for editing that post.

 

This is about the thinnest argument I've ever seen in a mafia game.

[Gabriel Kross]

Interesting, good to know Peace.

[Basel Gill]

I don't think either mod would cripple a first time player.

 

WoT isn't a first time player, though. She was in the HP game in the WT this year and stayed till she died on my NK. I think she may have been in a few other games but can't recall for sure. So she isn't a total newbie.

[Sakaea]

Official Vote Count:

 

BG (7) – Cyan, Rand, Red, Darthe, Razen, Despo, Ishy

 

Darthe (9) – NS, BG, EP, Mish, Eds, Songs, peace, Basel, dice

 

 

Not voting (4) - Kaylee, John Snow, Verb, JLM

 

With 20 alive, it takes 11 to lynch.

 

 

A Gladiator Challenge has been issued! You must now vote for either BG or Darthe. 2 contestants in the Game of Thrones one-on-one; who will live?

 

 

 

WoT was PR'd due to posting after I had said not to, and for then editing that post. That is all. No hidden motive. She was then replaced because she couldn't keep up with the game. Finito.

[Sakaea]

An addendum to the above: it would not have mattered who did that, what role they had, or if they were town or mafia. They still would have gotten the exact same PR.

[JenLenaMom]

Will most likely disappear for the weekend soon.

 

I really feel this is likely town on town but we have no choice.

 

I always think Darthe is scummy but that's just me I have nothing solid but the case on him doesn't seem that strong imo.

 

BG on the other hand I don't have a good read on and I think that's because of the way he's been playing. Darthe made good points about that. vote BG