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[ed2funy]

I think the part you are missing, Darthe, is what Ishy did.

 

Don't quote me for your purposes. It is obvious we don't know the exact goings on of last Night, but it is also evident that they learned something last night. So, we put some pressure on Verb and see what happens. Too easy.

Perhaps he has an explanation and they are misguiding or misinterpretting the info and will get the explanation they are looking for. Perhaps their info is concrete.

 

Either way, putting some votes on Verb will pull this out.

[ed2funy]

And @ Ishy and EP.

[bgrishinko]

I think the part you are missing, Darthe, is what Ishy did.

 

Don't quote me for your purposes. It is obvious we don't know the exact goings on of last Night, but it is also evident that they learned something last night. So, we put some pressure on Verb and see what happens. Too easy.

Perhaps he has an explanation and they are misguiding or misinterpretting the info and will get the explanation they are looking for. Perhaps their info is concrete.

 

Either way, putting some votes on Verb will pull this out.

 

Fair enough. The pressure cook seems like a decent idea for now.

 

Unvote Vote Verbal

[michellem]

I'm with Ed on this one; I have no idea what's going on, but I want more info from Ishy, EP or Verb himself before I bandwagon along like certain others *eyes BG*

[Darthe]

So you agree with Ed that we don't need more info because ishy did something so we should vote but you also agree with me that we do need more info because we don't know what ishy did so we shouldn't vote. Well done contributing Mish.

[ed2funy]

 

I think we need more info from Verb and to see what this whole deal is about. And that the best way to do that is vote him. Plus, I have a feeling they're onto something.

[michellem]

No, I simply messed up the names <.< I ment to write that I agree with you Darthe.

[Darthe]

Okay, now I understand both of you better!

[RandA lThor]

Ftr, I might not have understood because I am horrible at catching hints, one of my worst things about the whole game, I cannot catch hints. So that's just me. Just clarifying that. The Verb thing is interesting, but Verbal in general just seems like the person who wouldn't get too overdone about it. However, when he was mafia with me, Verbal acted very relaxed, like more than normal, so that may just be a sign of that. Possible meta right there. The Red 180 really makes me fell like Red was mafia, found out NS was town and backed out before others called her out on tunnelling. Right now, I'll put some pressure on Verb,

[John E. Kelley]

Can we get a VC from the sexy ones?

 

*no Ed, not you*

[ed2funy]

Damn.

[Sakaea]

Official Vote Count:

 

BG (4) – darthe, Cyan, Des, peace

Verb (6) – Ishy, EP, Eddie, Razen, BG, Rand 2.0

Ishy (1) – Basel

Song (1) – NS

JLM (1) – Red

Red (1) - dice

 

 

Not voting (6) - Kaylee, Songs, Snow, Verb, Mish, JLM

 

 

With 20 alive, it takes 11 to lynch.

 

 

No deadline yet.

[ed2funy]

Now, Verby needs to get his lurking behind over here NAOW.

 

Come esplain. Because I am fine with lynching you.

[ed2funy]

And if he flips scum, Song and Despo needs some looking at.

[Gabriel Kross]

Yeah, sorry EP, but I didn't get it either...

Me either.

I have to admit it was more because it was odd than me picking up on what exactly happened. But it more or less sounded like Ishy performed an action and EP was effected, but it gave them both some insight on Verb, somehow.

I'm pretty calm. With your history this would likely be dismissed as another of your "plans" if it weren't for Ishy so be thankful for him. However, as was just stated by three or four others, nobody has a clue what this is about. In short, either contribute or stop wasting time, all that you're going to gain like that is a bad reputation.

The people that said they didn't get it are all pretty new to the game and count again buddy only 2 people said they didnt get it Mish and Rand not 3-4 people.

 

 

I Went back quickly here. Include me and that is four so... no.

 

Razen, I get the point of voting Verb, it makes sense in a way but parts are missing. For verb to speak up on being RB'd at night he would have to have a night action and would have to use it during one of the nights he was blocked. Possible reasons he didn't do those things according to EP are: He is scum or... scum. However, for those of us in the real world, reasons may include X shot abilities, passive abilities, day abilities, vanilla, or a role important enough to not bring up that you have been roleblocked.

 

Voting based on this is scummy, those of you who are doing so either are catching something that I am not or are voting without knowing (or seemingly caring to know) why. AKA, scummy bandwagon.

 

First off you said 3-4 others so why are you now counting yourself, second off ed didn't say that he did not get it, granted he didn't say he got it either but that's a big leap you saying he did not get it when he himself did not say that.

 

Also you make it sound like this is the only thing I've had on Verb this whole game, I have cased Verb but nice way to try and defend Verb there.

[hazelkrs1]

I have to admit it was more because it was odd than me picking up on what exactly happened. But it more or less sounded like Ishy performed an action and EP was effected, but it gave them both some insight on Verb, somehow.

 

I think the part you are missing, Darthe, is what Ishy did.

 

Don't quote me for your purposes. It is obvious we don't know the exact goings on of last Night, but it is also evident that they learned something last night. So, we put some pressure on Verb and see what happens. Too easy.

Perhaps he has an explanation and they are misguiding or misinterpretting the info and will get the explanation they are looking for. Perhaps their info is concrete.

 

Either way, putting some votes on Verb will pull this out.

 

Here's the problem with your vote on Verb Ed: You keep saying the only reason your vote is on Verb is because you think Ishy and EP may have some info that led them to vote Verb.... this is just plain wrong bro. And the way you keep trying to shuck it as the truth is annoying.

 

EP is a Jailer, but he has been suspicious of Verb pretty much most of the game, at least well before last night. Ishy did hint at giving EP something, and I don't really care what it is, but the point is there is NOTHING to indicate that the gift had anything to do with a viewing or ANYTHING like that about Verbal. He voted Verb as well cause he has a town read on EP, so decided to go along with EP's instincts.

 

Basically, there is nothing to indicate that EITHER of them obtained any info about Verb last night. Yet you keep trying to pretend like they might have hinted towards something, or have something going on between them which has led them to casing Verbal. This is bullshanks.

 

As I said before, try supplying an actual reason for YOU to be voting Verbal, other than you just trying to go along with the "info" that EP and Ishy have, which I don't believe exists. Otherwise it just looks like scum trying to bandwagon on to someone else and pretend like they thought the person they were following had NA info which they never hinted at.

 

As for my feelings on Verbal, he could be scum, I just don't see that much evidence against him. EP made a couple of points, but from what I remember they all involved faulty logic. As in, he thought that the person who linked who the mafia were to Leelou did so because a friend of Leelou's was on the team. This just didn't really make any sense.

 

I also thought that Verbal didn't represent as strong of an info lynch today (altho my view on that has changed slightly with the way Darthe has reacted to the train on Verb), where as BG would make a great info lynch considering his interaction with Red 2.0 and some of the competing train votes.

 

Speaking of which, there's something else which leads me to believe that BG is much more likely to be scum than Verb:

 

Official Vote Count:

 

BG (4) – darthe, Cyan, Des, peace

Verb (6) – Ishy, EP, Eddie, Razen, BG, Rand 2.0

Ishy (1) – Basel

Song (1) – NS

JLM (1) – Red

Red (1) - dice

 

 

Not voting (6) - Kaylee, Songs, Snow, Verb, Mish, JLM

 

 

With 20 alive, it takes 11 to lynch.

 

 

No deadline yet.

 

The bolded are the names of people that have pinged me for one reason or another, and you notice that Verb's train has MUCH more of these people than BG's train? Eddie has been off his meta from what I have seen, and has pinged otherwise for a variety of reasons, and ever since I first started talking about his behavior being suspicious, he has since come out against me in many posts. Razen I've already stated my feelings on numerous times. BG my vote is on, and I think his voting record this game has been pretty awful (not talking about end of day vc's, just his voting in general). Rand 2.0 is a replacement, and I'm always wary of replacements (plus he replaced WoT13, who had that really bizarre thing that happened at the start of the game involving win conditions that we STILL haven't ever really focused on which got her the PR).

 

This tells me mafia REALLY doesn't want BG lynched. Pile on BG people. If you need any extra encouragement, too many people have forgotten just how wily BG can be as mafia. Don't let him escape a lynch for the third time!

 

And if he flips scum, Song and Despo needs some looking at.

 

More like when BG flips scum, you'll need more looking at.

[Gabriel Kross]

I don't think BG is mafia, he is giving the same vibe as the WoT game.

[RandA lThor]

Despo does have one thing true. Every time BG is about to be lynched a new target comes up. Seems off and it does seem a little mafia oriented.

[hazelkrs1]

TL;DR: EP and Ishy NEVER hinted at having any info from any NA's that implicated Verbal. That train on Verb started pretty much because of EP's feelings about Verb, and I just don't trust EP's instincts whatsoever. Plus, since he jailed him both nights, we can verify that he isn't the mafia Nightkiller, assuming they have one, and that he is not the mafia RB'er.

 

Coupled with that, looking at the two competing trains we have so far, Verbal's train is filled with far scummier people than the train on BG, at least in my view. At this point I doubt that Verbal is mafia.

 

BG on the other hand, has played a somewhat unusual game for him, and his strange fos on Red day 1 plus trying to advocate going for inactives day 1 are both enough to merit some pressure, but the fact that he has danced away from two other lynches while the game thread has been filled with inconsequential arguments about fluff tells me that he is a GREAT candidate to lynch today, and even if he isn't mafia his lynch will be very useful because of his interaction with Red and others in the game.

 

A vote for BG is a vote for intelligence, and cunning logic, and for more bikini days in temperate climates that allow for such things.

[Gabriel Kross]

New target my rear I've been going for Verb since day 1.

[hazelkrs1]

I don't think BG is mafia, he is giving the same vibe as the WoT game.

 

If I actually made a case on him, would that help assuage you, or are you knawing on that Verb bone and not letting go? I really didn't see that strong of a case on him ever. But if you line it back out for me, and I do the same for BG, maybe we can clear it up for each other.

 

And I'm right about the other thing, aren't I? You don't have any particular info pertaining to NA's that tells you Verb is scum, do you? I know you lerve your wifom, but come on bro, shoot me straight

[hazelkrs1]

Despo does have one thing true. Every time BG is about to be lynched a new target comes up. Seems off and it does seem a little mafia oriented.

 

That's not the only thing I have true sir

 

And what say you about my comments about you? Any idea why wot13 became so quiet, or what she originally said that got her the PR?

 

New target my rear I've been going for Verb since day 1.

 

Very true, you have been on him since day 1. I think Rand was speaking in general tho

[hazelkrs1]

Vote Ishy. I'm not as convinced of his townieness as Ed is. I still don't like the way he was completely brown-nosing sucking up to Nol. *edited cause disparaging comments about the color brown will not be tolerated*

 

Forgot to quote this before.

 

Moar evidence against Basel. EP is confirmed town in my book, and he pretty much confirmed receiving something from Ishy. While I disapprove of the public hints that went on between them, at the same time this gave me a strong town read on Ishy. Yes, he could be mafia trying a sort of gambit to try and buddy up to EP and make himself look cleaner, but I don't really feel this is the case right now, and plus Ishy has been closer to his town meta this game.

 

My top list for mafia: Razen, BG, Basel, Darthe, Ed, Rand 2.0. Pretty much in that order.

[Darthe]

Damn it , I didn't want to have to use this but I am not letting this scum slip through the cracks another day!

 

Also, Despo I agree completely about the scumtastic and frankly dumb votes on verb.

[Gabriel Kross]

I don't think BG is mafia, he is giving the same vibe as the WoT game.

 

If I actually made a case on him, would that help assuage you, or are you knawing on that Verb bone and not letting go? I really didn't see that strong of a case on him ever. But if you line it back out for me, and I do the same for BG, maybe we can clear it up for each other.

 

And I'm right about the other thing, aren't I? You don't have any particular info pertaining to NA's that tells you Verb is scum, do you? I know you lerve your wifom, but come on bro, shoot me straight

 

I never claimed to have a viewing, however I cannot speak for Ishy. I am however basing his lack of reactions on being jailed 2 times in a row and not mentioning anything as a pretty good indication that he has something to hide.

 

Also, Darthe's defense of Verb by saying his ability could be an xhit or whatever makes 0 sense in the fact that he is still blocked even if it's an xhit.

 

Vote Ishy. I'm not as convinced of his townieness as Ed is. I still don't like the way he was completely brown-nosing sucking up to Nol. *edited cause disparaging comments about the color brown will not be tolerated*

 

Forgot to quote this before.

 

Moar evidence against Basel. EP is confirmed town in my book, and he pretty much confirmed receiving something from Ishy. While I disapprove of the public hints that went on between them, at the same time this gave me a strong town read on Ishy. Yes, he could be mafia trying a sort of gambit to try and buddy up to EP and make himself look cleaner, but I don't really feel this is the case right now, and plus Ishy has been closer to his town meta this game.

 

My top list for mafia: Razen, BG, Basel, Darthe, Ed, Rand 2.0. Pretty much in that order.

 

Also, based on what happened Desp, I don't believe it to be a non-town ability. Considering we were given a mafia win condition in thread I don't believe we are dealing with cult, so Ishy is clear in my book.